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2013-06-19 02:30:28 PM  

Airportmatt: For the record, I was born in 1974 and have been saying "No problem" instead of "You're Welcome" for the last 20 years or so.

So, the author needs to get over himself.


I was born in 1972, and I say it a lot as well. Although I think I say "no worries" more than anything. I picked that up from a former coworker, and it just stuck.
 
2013-06-19 02:30:59 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Pants full of macaroni!!: I have a tendency to reply to "How's it goin'?" with "It's goin'" and to "How you doin'?" with "I'm doin'".

So do I. And then I invariably get "Just 'going'? Not going well?" or some similar idiocy. And then I invariably get stabby: I'm busy, and you don't actually care, so STFU already...


One summer I was doing some filing in an office that had a couple salesweasels in addition to the usual staff. One of them breezed in one day and said "Hey how're you?" and I, thinking myself quite clever, said, "Pretty terrible." I smiled at him smugly, waiting for him to realize how smart I was and how dumb his question was, and he said "Great!" and breezed out. He hadn't heard a thing I said. That took me down a couple pegs. :)
 
2013-06-19 02:31:01 PM  
"ain't no thang." is how i roll.

<holds the door for a female colleague with a rather bodacious derriere>
"why, thank you, kind sir."
"ain't no thang."
 
2013-06-19 02:31:16 PM  
This just happened to me.

Old Patron: "Thank you for all your help."
Me: "Oh, no problem.  Any time."
Old Patron: "Have a great day."
Me: "Thanks.  You too."

He didn't seem phased.
 
2013-06-19 02:32:05 PM  

gadian: My kid hasn't quite caught on to the fact that he's not the one who is supposed to say "You're welcome" after he says "thank you".  He says it as more of a "thank you're 'lcome". He's still more polite than many 30 somethings who don't say "thank you", "you're welcome" or even "no problem".  What, were you raised by wolves?   Social courtesy, please.


Unfortunately, your kid is 23...
 
2013-06-19 02:32:09 PM  
As they say at Chickfila: My pleasure!

Maybe we could use 'no problem', 'no worries' and so on informally and use 'you're welcome' formally?
 
2013-06-19 02:32:14 PM  

NkThrasher: Everyone has their stupid grammar peeves.  ...


Mine is people who get all bent out of shape believing that words have distinct meanings.

I'm like, duuuuuuude, they're ALL MADE UP. GET OVER IT!

I remember noting back in 5th grade English, that there is nothing coherent in the rules about grammar or word usage. Every freakin' day was merely learning yet another exception to some "rule."
 
2013-06-19 02:32:23 PM  
My grandpa who is 90 has always said "you bet" instead of "your welcome" for as long as I can remember.

/no a universal young person problem
//just a grammar nazi problem
 
2013-06-19 02:32:35 PM  
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2013-06-19 02:32:59 PM  

Gunny Highway: This just happened to me.

Old Patron: "Thank you for all your help."
Me: "Oh, no problem.  Any time."
Old Patron: "Have a great day."
Me: "Thanks.  You too."

He didn't seem phased.


Oh my, it's almost like this particular individual is a bad human being trying to blame a younger generation for everything, especially why he's a washed up old writer no one likes to read.
 
2013-06-19 02:33:00 PM  
CBS news + biatching about "young" people ? Isn't Andy Rooney dead yet?
 
2013-06-19 02:33:11 PM  

StandsWithAFist: The author of TFA,


"...and television executive."

NO WONDER!

/suck balls Flanagan
img.fark.net

img.fark.net
/hot like Flanagan's under collar
 
2013-06-19 02:33:35 PM  
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'It's no problemo'
 
2013-06-19 02:33:58 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "You're welcome" implies that you're welcome to impose upon me again.

"No problem" implies "this time, but don't make a habit of it."


See what I mean? Opinion passed off as fact without the least bit of shame.
 
2013-06-19 02:34:11 PM  
Listen you old fuddy duddy, why are you busting my chops , whats eating you ? No reason to snap your cap so pipe down. I'll be on the level with you, when I give you a drink and you tip the bill and say Thanks, I say no sweat or ducky ,  and how , now beat it
 
2013-06-19 02:34:27 PM  

ikanreed: Yogimus: In other news, regional dialects vary by region...

That doesn't stop people from complaining about "doing the needful".  I mean I get the complaints when it's used to inject ambiguity and reflect laziness on the part of the asker like "please advise" does, but it's still a retarded thing people feel excessively strongly about.


I just take "do the needful" as request to go drop one in the pot.  Gives me an excuse to leave my desk for 1/2 an hour.
 
2013-06-19 02:34:48 PM  

SoupJohnB: vpb: Those young whipper snappers need to start talking like we did back in the day and then get off of my lawn!

I called my own father-in-law "Sir."  Now my son-in-law calls me "Dude."  Which is ok by me.

/nobody calls me "Mr. Lebowski," man


Ha! My father-in-law told me in no uncertain terms to quit calling him "sir". I'm slowly getting used to it.

Slowly being the operative word.
 
2013-06-19 02:34:51 PM  

R.A.Danny: I still think that if someone does something for profit and I pay for it they should thank me. Is that all that old fashioned? That goes for the pretty young lady at Starbucks to my Cisco rep who just got a $235,000 PO from me.


Cool. What'd you buy? Too cheap to be a switch, too expensive to be phones - does Cisco even sell phones? Ah, apparently they do. Weird.

/totally nosey
 
2013-06-19 02:34:53 PM  

sboyle1020: Unfortunately, your kid is 23...


Boys develop slowly, okay?  Geez.  You sound just like my husband with his "don't you think he's old enough to chew his own food?".
 
2013-06-19 02:35:26 PM  
csb time:

a few years back i was working the front desk at a local gym. as one of the guests left he told me to "have a nice day," to which i responded, "thanks--take it easy." the guy stops, turns to me and says something to the effect of, "THAT'S what's wrong with people today--why should I take it EASY? nothing comes easy, you have to work HARD for everything. I HATE it when people say that. You are all LAZY!"

/end csb
 
2013-06-19 02:35:52 PM  

vbob: [img.fark.net image 351x469]

.. reference may be too vague for those born after 1980


The one he posted today was also very relevant to this editorial.  I think Plato had a rant similar to this guy at some point.
 
2013-06-19 02:35:54 PM  

Heron: Implicit in "no problem" is the chance they may find your demands to be a problem and not do them, and I guess this guy is one of those petty tyrants who finds the idea that those working for him might be making their own decisions independent of his will threatening.


I think you've hit the nail on the head. "No problem" doesn't set the right tone of obeisance to your betters.

/   Born way before 1980
//  Have used "no problem" as far back as I can remember
/// Have no problem with others using it, either
 
2013-06-19 02:36:17 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Aarontology: SOMEONE IS BEING POLITE IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN HOW I EXPRESS POLITENESS.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Seriously. I mean, what does "You're welcome" even mean? I'm sure it has some noble roots, that used to go something like, "Thank you for letting me use your serfs," "You are welcome to use them anytime you need to, sir," but that doesn't even translate to what this guy wants, even the modern shorthand.

"Tap water, please."
"You're welcome."

That exchange makes no damn sense.


""Tap water, please."
"Here you go."
"Thank you."
"You're welcome."

*That* makes sense, but then again, so would replacing "You're welcome" with "No problem".


"welcome" comes from Old English "wilcuma" which literally meant "one whose coming is in accord with another's will" or "one who's presence is chosen/a pleasure". The pieces of the word are cuma meaning "guest" or more literally "one who comes" and willa meaning "choice" or "desire; pleasure". So when this guy insists on "you're welcome" when you give him some water what he's insisting you say to him in the most literal sense is "I wanted you to come here". Less literally, he wants you to say "It was my choice/pleasure" which is little more than a more active construction of "I have no problem with with doing this".
 
2013-06-19 02:36:48 PM  

gadian: sboyle1020: Unfortunately, your kid is 23...

Boys develop slowly, okay?  Geez.  You sound just like my husband with his "don't you think he's old enough to chew his own food?".



Haha...interestingly enough I just read an article that said males don't fully mature until they're 43, so he's got some time.

/true story
//32 for women
 
2013-06-19 02:36:50 PM  

FTGodWin: BarkingUnicorn: "You're welcome" implies that you're welcome to impose upon me again.

"No problem" implies "this time, but don't make a habit of it."

See what I mean? Opinion passed off as fact without the least bit of shame.


There are no facts about this discussion.  It's all opinion.

I just grunt and glare at people  when they thank me.
 
2013-06-19 02:37:18 PM  

huntercr: I believe you're actually incorrect on this. A degree is a rank or a title. A Diploma is what you receive granting you use of the title.This is why a degree is "conferred upon" you. Your diploma attests this specifically to you.  So earning "your" degree is correct.


It isn't something you can legitimately claim possession of until you have completed its requirements.  It isn't "yours".  It exists as an abstract concept or item ("A degree", "A diploma") until it is instantiated and given to you ("My degree", "My diploma").

Colleges don't offer "Your degree in X", they offer "Degrees in X", you are seeking one of those "Degrees in X", it isn't yours until you have completed the requirements the college has set forth for conferring it upon you, at that point of conferment it becomes 'Your degree in X', until then it is a degree in potentia, not a degree you possess.
 
2013-06-19 02:38:00 PM  

StandsWithAFist: The author of TFA, or "writer with a deadline & sand in his shorts who decided to post pointless, inflammatory rant to generate views & comments on CBS News, thus justifying his continued employment".


Article created by an account named Flanagaw, too.
 
2013-06-19 02:38:29 PM  

mama2tnt: Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?


"Guys" has evolved to mean "people" in context-neutral situations. It's less formal than "ladies and gentlemen", and a little less sterile as just referring directly to a group as "people". You can't really say "guys and gals" unless you're wearing a cowboy hat.

As to your question directly, this practice is "okay" because informal language conventions are adopted by general consensus and usage. If this genuinely bothers you, I advise you to book a reasonably-priced flight to the burgeoning tourist destination of Okinawa, find a calm, peaceful spot along the famous cliffside, and hurl yourself to the rocks below.
 
2013-06-19 02:38:57 PM  

sboyle1020: gadian: sboyle1020: Unfortunately, your kid is 23...

Boys develop slowly, okay?  Geez.  You sound just like my husband with his "don't you think he's old enough to chew his own food?".

Haha...interestingly enough I just read an article that said males don't fully mature until they're 43, so he's got some time.

/true story
//32 for women


Holy cow that makes me feel a lot better about my life. Thanks. I thought when I got smarter* in my early thirties that I must've been super-dumb and behind the curve.

*more able to plan ahead, stick to plans, be adult, etc.
 
2013-06-19 02:39:17 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: What I say instead:

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x273]


As you wish you, too *gazes longingly at internet stranger for sake of joke*
 
2013-06-19 02:39:57 PM  
"No problem" should be used in response to the original request, not to the expression of gratitude.  It's short for "that shouldn't be a problem."


Can I have it fixed by tomorrow?
No problem.
(or)  That shouldn't be a problem.
Thank you.
You're welcome
.
 
2013-06-19 02:40:04 PM  

Heron: Gecko Gingrich: Aarontology: SOMEONE IS BEING POLITE IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN HOW I EXPRESS POLITENESS.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Seriously. I mean, what does "You're welcome" even mean? I'm sure it has some noble roots, that used to go something like, "Thank you for letting me use your serfs," "You are welcome to use them anytime you need to, sir," but that doesn't even translate to what this guy wants, even the modern shorthand.

"Tap water, please."
"You're welcome."

That exchange makes no damn sense.


""Tap water, please."
"Here you go."
"Thank you."
"You're welcome."

*That* makes sense, but then again, so would replacing "You're welcome" with "No problem".

"welcome" comes from Old English "wilcuma" which literally meant "one whose coming is in accord with another's will" or "one who's presence is chosen/a pleasure". The pieces of the word are cuma meaning "guest" or more literally "one who comes" and willa meaning "choice" or "desire; pleasure". So when this guy insists on "you're welcome" when you give him some water what he's insisting you say to him in the most literal sense is "I wanted you to come here". Less literally, he wants you to say "It was my choice/pleasure" which is little more than a more active construction of "I have no problem with with doing this".


Bah. FTFM. Again :/
 
2013-06-19 02:40:38 PM  

gabethegoat: csb time:

a few years back i was working the front desk at a local gym. as one of the guests left he told me to "have a nice day," to which i responded, "thanks--take it easy." the guy stops, turns to me and says something to the effect of, "THAT'S what's wrong with people today--why should I take it EASY? nothing comes easy, you have to work HARD for everything. I HATE it when people say that. You are all LAZY!"

/end csb


He had to shower in 26 minutes...
 
2013-06-19 02:40:59 PM  
Hey subs and author, have you taken into account that some people my take offense to "your welcome"  as they may take that a sarcasm or rudeness that the person offering it up is better then the person saying "thank you"?
 
2013-06-19 02:41:08 PM  

Cythraul: I usually respond with 'yeah, whatever.'


This is my United States of Whatever
 
2013-06-19 02:42:05 PM  

Aidan: R.A.Danny: I still think that if someone does something for profit and I pay for it they should thank me. Is that all that old fashioned? That goes for the pretty young lady at Starbucks to my Cisco rep who just got a $235,000 PO from me.

Cool. What'd you buy? Too cheap to be a switch, too expensive to be phones - does Cisco even sell phones? Ah, apparently they do. Weird.

/totally nosey


We are refreshing the switches and routers for some of our satellite offices.

So I'm paying about half for equipment and the rest for smartnet.

And we DO have Cisco phones.
 
2013-06-19 02:42:24 PM  
I was born in 1960 and I certainly prefer "No Problem" rather than:
Silence
A grunt
"Yeah"
"ok"
A nod  (doesn't piss me off, but not my prefered response, unless they are a member of my fight club)
"sure"

So, yeah, no problem
 
2013-06-19 02:42:38 PM  
"What do you mean?" he said. "Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on?"
 
2013-06-19 02:42:41 PM  
I say "you're welcome," but have no problem with the evolution of language changing the way everyone else says it.

"Data" is singular these days. I got over that too.
 
2013-06-19 02:42:46 PM  
"You are welcome" sounds utterly strange for non-English speaking people. It is something that you should answer when somebody says "Hello" to you.

/we say something like "nothing at all", short for "you need to thank nothing at all", or "gladly", short for "I gladly helped you"
 
2013-06-19 02:42:57 PM  

Secret Agent X23: I'm a pre-1980 person, but "no problem" doesn't, and has never, bothered me in the slightest.


Same here.

Dear Mr. Flanagan,
         HAVE A NICE DAY, ASSHOLE!
                                                             Thank You,
                                                             ten foiled hats
 
2013-06-19 02:43:25 PM  
I translated this article as: Get off my lawn!!!!
 
2013-06-19 02:43:47 PM  

R.A.Danny: Aidan: R.A.Danny: I still think that if someone does something for profit and I pay for it they should thank me. Is that all that old fashioned? That goes for the pretty young lady at Starbucks to my Cisco rep who just got a $235,000 PO from me.

Cool. What'd you buy? Too cheap to be a switch, too expensive to be phones - does Cisco even sell phones? Ah, apparently they do. Weird.

/totally nosey

We are refreshing the switches and routers for some of our satellite offices.

So I'm paying about half for equipment and the rest for smartnet.

And we DO have Cisco phones.


Sweet! We never get new, so I'm all excited about someone elses' Christmases. :)
 
2013-06-19 02:43:49 PM  

FTGodWin: NkThrasher: Everyone has their stupid grammar peeves.  ...

Mine is people who get all bent out of shape believing that words have distinct meanings.

I'm like, duuuuuuude, they're ALL MADE UP. GET OVER IT!

I remember noting back in 5th grade English, that there is nothing coherent in the rules about grammar or word usage. Every freakin' day was merely learning yet another exception to some "rule."


My fourth grade teacher would go off when people said "ain't". She would say, "That word is a contraction. Are you trying to say 'ai not'?"

It didn't occur to me at the time that the word "won't", by her logic, would mean "wo not". If I ever invent a time machine, my first priority will be to go back and deliver a nice zinger. Then may I'll go back and kill Hitler or something.
 
2013-06-19 02:44:14 PM  

mama2tnt: ikanreed: "'No problem' communicates there was a problem but 'you're welcome' in no way implies its opposite by being said"
--old idiot, so afraid of change that replacing a no-meaning conversation filling phrase with another no-meaning conversation-filling phrase is the biggest deal

When people say "no problem" they aren't aware that this old man is a problem.

Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?


Because there's no single syllable slang term for women? Or at least that socially acceptable or polite.
 
2013-06-19 02:44:21 PM  
I'm glad the article was presented broken down into 5 parts, because I really can't handle more than 2 paragraphs at a time.
 
2013-06-19 02:44:42 PM  
"Oh, by the way.....

img.photobucket.com"
 
2013-06-19 02:44:55 PM  
Since people have become so touchy I just yell fark you as loud as I can to everyone.  I figure that's universal for "you're welcome."
 
2013-06-19 02:45:11 PM  
Girl at drive through window: "Here's your order.  You have a nice one."
Me: "Uhhhm....Thanks.  I'm sure you do too."

(Always wanted to say it, never did)
 
2013-06-19 02:45:31 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: FTGodWin: BarkingUnicorn: "You're welcome" implies that you're welcome to impose upon me again.

"No problem" implies "this time, but don't make a habit of it."

See what I mean? Opinion passed off as fact without the least bit of shame.

There are no facts about this discussion.  It's all opinion.

I just grunt and glare at people  when they thank me.


I hear that "Whateva" goes a long way.

It looks like CBS is running a senior special today. Here's one about dressing like a slob.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57585174/dressing-down-a-cultur e- for-refusing-to-dress-up/
 
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