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(WMUR New Hampshire)   Counter protester at Mayors Against Illegal Guns rally speaks his peace, turns to leave, and is confronted by police. He explains he's done talking and is leaving. Police explain STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING ZAPPPPP TIKTIIKKATIKKATIKKA   (wmur.com) divider line 26
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2013-06-19 09:32:47 AM
4 votes:
Coincidentally, TIKTIIKKATIKKATIKKA is the middle name of my Makaa'n neighbor.
2013-06-19 10:43:35 AM
3 votes:
Hoplophobes: "Guns are bad, bad, bad!"

Other people: "I disagree."

Hoplophobes: "Quick, send some men with guns to take that man away!"
2013-06-19 10:09:31 AM
3 votes:

PreMortem: Coincidentally, TIKTIIKKATIKKATIKKA is the middle name of my Makaa'n neighbor.


In the TIKATIKATIKATIKATIKA room
Where the birds sing words and the flowers HNGGGGGG!!!! *thud*
2013-06-19 10:04:36 AM
3 votes:
And now, if convicted of a felony, he won't be able to legally own a gun!
You cunning plan, sir, was not thought through.
2013-06-19 10:57:55 AM
2 votes:
He didn't "just touch" the cop. He pushed on him to get him to move out of the way, enough to move the cop (even slightly). It was disrespectful and assholish - doing it in a non-cop situation would still probably escalate it to a violent confrontation.

How about you don't put your farking hands on people, and maybe things will stay calm?

Also, those cops need take down training. He was standing straight up, yet three of them had trouble taking him down. Use your weight and leverage to control him, don't just jump on his back and hang there.
2013-06-19 10:46:34 AM
2 votes:

MythDragon: Seriously? He just touched the cop. He wasn't threatning him. I've seen cops damn near lose their shiat when one is just standing around, and a guy walks up to ask him a general question and taps him on the shoulder 'Excuse me sir..." and the cop acts like the guy stuck his penis in his pocket. "DON'T TOUCH ME SIR! YOU GOT THAT? DO NOT TOUCH ME AGAIN OR I WILL ARREST YOU!" Arrest for what? Felonious shoulder touching?


I used to protest like you, then I took a touch to the shoulder.
2013-06-19 12:27:22 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: nobody is that offensively stupid in real life



Dude, I got this.

If you are surrounded by cops, just tell them you know me.

Say, " I know vudukungfu"

Then repeat it louder, "I KNOW VUDUKUNGFU!"

Then show them your "O" face, which is the secret handshake all cops know.
2013-06-19 12:25:19 PM
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: bullsballs: You have freedom of speech, unless we don't like what you have to say, subjects...

Hecklers should never speak the words "Freedom of Speech."   Shouting over someone is effectively denying their freedom of speech.  Tacky.


Funny how his supporters don't care that he was attempting to prevent someone else's freedom of speech because the speaker was attempting to say something they didn't want heard.
2013-06-19 11:22:01 AM
1 votes:

ChaosStar: You go find the disturbing the peace statute pertaining to this town, read it, and see if his actions fit it. Chances are good if they do, the statute would be found unconstitutional.


So you think the first gives you the right to interupt any legally permitted gathering by standing next to the speaker, waving your hands betweent hem and their speech and talking over them?

ChaosStar: Your Websters dictionary definition is irrelevant.


Words mean things.  Sorry buddy.

ChaosStar: He was asking the speaker questions about the speech he was giving because he thought he was being a mouth piece for Bloomingidiot's campaign. He wasn't "shouting over the speaker" or "crowding the podium". I already said what he was doing was annoying, and, if you're looking at it from an anti-gun point of view, not very polite but hardly disturbing the peace


Yeah.  he was givingt he speech adn this clown walked up and talked over him loud enough that he could be heard over the microphone.  That fits "shouting over" in my book.  Of course my "book" rests on words having fixed meanings, not just what I want them to mean fro my pet causes.

As far as crowingt he podium if he is closer than anyone there associated with the speaker, and he is reaching his hands between the speaker and his speech, that is pretty clearly crowding.  I can't help you if you are too dumb or dishonest to see that.
2013-06-19 11:14:18 AM
1 votes:

ChaosStar: Donnchadha: ChaosStar: Really? Please point out where I said that, cause I never did.

Bolding is yours --

liam76: Even if he was trying to "walk away" he could be arrested for disturbing the peace prior to that.

ChaosStar: No, he really couldn't, but I'm to lazy to look everything up.

What the fark else could that possibly mean? I mean seriously, you're just being contrarian at this point and I've got better things to do than argue on the internet with somebody like you.

Good day.

Could it possibly, just maybe, mean that he didn't break the law? That what he did wasn't disturbing the peace?
No, couldn't be that huh? It clearly means whatever words you put into my mouth.
Good day indeed.


Doesn't matter, he can still be arrested. Do you understand the utility of our court system?
2013-06-19 11:09:11 AM
1 votes:

Headso: yeah we are thinking of different scenarios, I am referring to the video this thread is about.


Sorry, but you don't get to put your hands on both sides of a cop. I see what you are saying, that you don't think he was going to apply force with his hands at any point, but we don't know if we was or not, and the police shouldn't have to give up positional advantage to people on the grounds that the people 'might not' use that.

That is where the cops are coming from.  You watch any video of cops getting killed, and more often than not it comes from letting people inch closer and closer and then making the move. I don't blame cops in the slightest for not giving up those inches. But I know, you watched thirty seconds of footage in the clip so you are absolutely sure the man, was bigger than any of the cops as well, was clearly just a harmless puppy dog.

He pointed behind the cop and then he tried to turn him. While turning someone around might qualify as harmless touching in many situations, turning a cop around when you are arguing with him, at least in my opinion, counts as off-limits touching.

Side note: this guy looked like one of the freedom anti-authority guys. On what authority is he physically touching anyone without permission?
2013-06-19 10:58:20 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: leeto2: Simple rule I tell my kids:  Gun + Badge = wins.   You get pulled over by a cop you say, "yes sir, no sir," and you damned well better do it politely.  You want to argue, you go do it in court...period.

What's fun is white +50 males are now discovering that when it comes to protests, the cops don't like you.  And if you're dumb enough to touch one...in ANY way...you are gonna eat pavement.  Gun + badge = wins.

And yet, there were upwards of 12,000 people who protested the new NYS SAFE Act in downtown Albany a few months ago, and *ZERO* trouble.


Gun nuts with 1" rage boners care not about facts.
2013-06-19 10:36:20 AM
1 votes:

SuburbanCowboy: The guy was being a total dick to someone who had lost a child, but the cops shouldn't have tased him. If you can't take down a guy slightly larger than you all  by yourself, without using a potentially deadly weapon (and tasers do kill people) you shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.

That said, I wish these people who are so adamant about gun rights would apply that passion equally to other important social issues.


Does sleeping kill people? A lot of deaths occur while sleeping too I bet.

Tasers kill is something mostly said by people who don't understand amps vs. volts, as far as I can tell. Unless you meant the rare instance of someone falling badly while being tased, or so hopped up on drugs that their own freaking out is really what killed them and likely would have had they been physically taken down.
2013-06-19 10:36:07 AM
1 votes:

ChaosStar: liam76: natas6.0: guy had his arms crossed and was trying to walk away
was even saying he was walking away..
blocked by police until he gave them a reason to arrest him


Even if he was trying to "walk away" he  could be arrested for disturbing the peace prior to that.

The inevitabel "assault" charge is BS.

No, he really couldn't, but I'm to lazy to look everything up.


So if the cops don't catch him actively "disturbing the peace", even if there's video evidence of him doing so, he gets off scot free?

I should use that the next time I argue a traffic camera violation -- "You see, by the time you reviewed the camera footage, I had stopped speeding, therefore I was committing no crime"
2013-06-19 10:28:55 AM
1 votes:

bullsballs: You have freedom of speech, unless we don't like what you have to say, subjects...


Hecklers should never speak the words "Freedom of Speech."   Shouting over someone is effectively denying their freedom of speech.  Tacky.
2013-06-19 10:24:58 AM
1 votes:
The guy was being a total dick to someone who had lost a child, but the cops shouldn't have tased him. If you can't take down a guy slightly larger than you all  by yourself, without using a potentially deadly weapon (and tasers do kill people) you shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.

That said, I wish these people who are so adamant about gun rights would apply that passion equally to other important social issues.
2013-06-19 10:23:38 AM
1 votes:
That guy was there to cause trouble and hopefully provoke an arrest, and the cops were there to provoke him into doing something arrestable. All of them should be cited for disorderly conduct.
2013-06-19 10:17:31 AM
1 votes:
Subby could get a job for Fox news.
2013-06-19 10:13:39 AM
1 votes:

PreMortem: Coincidentally, TIKTIIKKATIKKATIKKA is the middle name of my Makaa'n neighbor.


lulz!
2013-06-19 10:11:49 AM
1 votes:
It's Mayors Against Guns. They don't care at all if they are "illegal" or not. AND they are losing badly in the court of public opinion.

/Gun Control is STILL a loser at the polls
2013-06-19 10:11:32 AM
1 votes:
you know, looking from the outside (Canada) at all these gun retards you have down south is sometimes amusing, sometimes scary.

of all the things to get worked up over, a farking gun? really? that's the best you can do? how about you just go half retard and get really passionate about Nascar, or UFC?

but guns?
2013-06-19 10:09:39 AM
1 votes:

bullsballs: You have freedom of speech, unless we don't like what you have to say, subjects...


That's "citizen" to you, citizen.
2013-06-19 10:08:20 AM
1 votes:
img.fark.net

heh heh heh.. all of a sudden i thought a mongoose flag could be a counter to the don't tread on me flag
2013-06-19 10:06:16 AM
1 votes:
You have freedom of speech, unless we don't like what you have to say, subjects...
2013-06-19 09:24:55 AM
1 votes:
Once again, a headline that demonstrates the fine line between "using creative snark to poke fun at the article" and "being a farking idiot who can't read."
2013-06-19 08:56:20 AM
1 votes:
Which is not remotely what the article said, of course.
 
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