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(New York Magazine)   Take a look inside the software company that once allowed the employees to fire the CEO's niece and call their bosses out when they disagree with them   (nymag.com) divider line 15
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2013-06-19 10:40:26 AM  
 
2013-06-19 12:46:09 PM  
More importantly, Men's Warehouse fired George Zimmer!

I may never shop there again.
 
2013-06-19 01:44:45 PM  
Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.
 
2013-06-19 03:48:43 PM  

Stone Meadow: Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.


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2013-06-19 06:17:39 PM  

Stone Meadow: Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.


Massage parlor?
 
2013-06-19 06:51:00 PM  
The efficiency of an egalitarian system is a function of the number of participants in it, and the name of that function is "inverse factorial".

It might work for 50 weirdos in a basement in Ann Arbor, churning out software that I've never heard of.  But there's never been a world-conquering force -- corporate or military -- that didn't have a clear hierarchical structure.

And let's not mistake the flattening of inessential management structures -- as has been happening over the past 30-40 years as technological advances have made workers more productive and better able to communicate -- for a trend towards the total absence of management.
 
2013-06-19 07:45:30 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Stone Meadow: Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.

Massage parlor?


Prototyping shop living off the crumbs of the Bay Area tech scene.
 
2013-06-19 10:02:23 PM  

Stone Meadow: Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.


Firing him for not being capable of doing his job makes sense.  But for tardiness?

Why are so many people obsessed with people coming in a bit late, or leaving a bit early?

Are they useful?  Are they still working full time (30 hours or more)?  Then who cares about tardiness?

And what's so great about someone who comes in early?
 
2013-06-19 10:37:48 PM  
 
2013-06-19 10:48:05 PM  

sendtodave: Why are so many people obsessed with people coming in a bit late, or leaving a bit early?


Just a guess, because he's an asshole. And probably likes to have control over others who may be more talented than him.
 
2013-06-19 11:04:44 PM  
That place sounds like an extrovert's heaven and an intrpvert's hell on wheels. Sure glad I don't work there. Imagine trying to concentrate on coding and keeping so much "state" in your head while someone's kibitzing over your shoulder and while sitting in the middle of Grand Central Farking Station. No thank'ee!
 
2013-06-19 11:36:33 PM  

Stone Meadow: Some people get scared by autonomy and agency, and they'll still likely find work where they can get told want to do every day. But those aren't the kind of employees that most companies want.

And how! Even my little, count-'em-in-single-digits company can't abide drones who need constant direction and supervision. I recently fired someone who was highly skilled in two areas I need and use every day. He was meticulous, careful...even obsessive. But he also started everything 5 minutes late, wanted to quit 5 minutes early and constantly watched the clock. I replaced him with someone with no experience whatsoever, but who is early every day, never needs simple things explained more than once, and who FINDS SHIAT TO DO.


If employees have to "find work to do" and make stuff up just to stay busy it is a very strong indicator of very bad management.  Know what happens to even the best employees who have to "find work"?  They eventually stop because they shouldn't have to tolerate that shiat or start developing their own work for their own projects.

I'd also argue that there is nothing wrong with clock watching so long as work got completed, which it sounds as if it did.  The employee is only expected to be in the building between X & X, so it is really unreasonable to expect them to not get up as soon as the clock ticks, or start powering shiat down five minutes before so you can be out the door by the time the clock ticks.
 
2013-06-19 11:50:29 PM  

sendtodave: Why are so many people obsessed with people coming in a bit late, or leaving a bit early?


When teams are loaded inequitably it grinds on the guys pulling overtime regularly.

Also, guys who "find work to do" often manage to find it in such a way that they offload it onto other teams but later present the product as their own.
 
2013-06-20 12:52:39 AM  

soze: sendtodave: Why are so many people obsessed with people coming in a bit late, or leaving a bit early?

When teams are loaded inequitably it grinds on the guys pulling overtime regularly.

Also, guys who "find work to do" often manage to find it in such a way that they offload it onto other teams but later present the product as their own.


I don't know about you but at my last job, "finding work to do" meant finishing what i was working on then moving on to something else that needed to be done instead of just waiting around to be told to do it. I think most people like employees that do that and even work late to get shiat done instead of running out the door when the clock says you can.
 
2013-06-20 12:07:09 PM  

poot_rootbeer: The efficiency of an egalitarian system is a function of the number of participants in it, and the name of that function is "inverse factorial".

It might work for 50 weirdos in a basement in Ann Arbor, churning out software that I've never heard of.  But there's never been a world-conquering force -- corporate or military -- that didn't have a clear hierarchical structure.


This is why any time you interview and the nice HR lady tells you they have a cutting edge "Grid management policy" or "cross functional management" structure you should run, not walk, to the nearest exit.

All that means is that you are going to be working for a committee of cowards to incompetent to make a decision.
 
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