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2013-06-19 08:59:30 AM  
spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....


It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist
 
2013-06-19 09:01:47 AM  
Simpsons did it.
 
2013-06-19 09:27:58 AM  
heh, nuts.
 
2013-06-19 09:28:02 AM  

mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist


Thank you.
 
2013-06-19 09:29:38 AM  
2 peanuts are walking down the street. One was a salted.
 
2013-06-19 09:29:49 AM  
sensational bullshiat article.
 
2013-06-19 09:30:23 AM  
img.fark.net


pic is borrowed
 
2013-06-19 09:30:44 AM  
good. weed out the inferior genes.

live without peanut butter isn't a life worth living anyhow.
 
2013-06-19 09:31:22 AM  

teylix: good. weed out the inferior genes.

live life without peanut butter isn't a life worth living anyhow.


ftfm.
 
2013-06-19 09:33:55 AM  

mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist


And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.
 
2013-06-19 09:35:07 AM  
I'm just about to take a break and have peanut butter and banana on toast.  And I make sure the bread has extra gluten.  Also freshen my coffee with real cream.
 
2013-06-19 09:35:34 AM  

mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist


In the very same sentence, it mentions switching lunches, which is definitely potentially fatal.
 
2013-06-19 09:35:38 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.


Is cedar pollen food?
 
2013-06-19 09:35:39 AM  
Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child.
/confused
//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv
 
2013-06-19 09:35:46 AM  
I remeber this woman in Toronto wanted all the oak trees chopped down because she was afraid that her precious snowflake would somehow be foreced to eat one. Her request spawned so much derision she had to retract the request and guess what. Her precious snowflake began to be teased and bullied.

Hovercraft parenting. Ya gotta love it.
 
2013-06-19 09:36:14 AM  
Well, if you're worried your little snowflake is going to be within ten feet of a peanut in the big scary world, keep the kid AT HOME where you can protect her in a bubble.

/Also, your bad parenting would be why the kid is getting bullied.
 
2013-06-19 09:36:23 AM  

ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?


Can peanut particulates be inhaled?
 
2013-06-19 09:37:21 AM  

darwinpolice: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

In the very same sentence, it mentions switching lunches, which is definitely potentially fatal.


that's my question there. who are these kids that don't look at what they're eating?
 
2013-06-19 09:38:25 AM  

nburghmatt: darwinpolice: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

In the very same sentence, it mentions switching lunches, which is definitely potentially fatal.

that's my question there. who are these kids that don't look at what they're eating?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-19 09:38:27 AM  
Surprisingly, classmates may prey on this vulnerability

Author has never been around children?
 
2013-06-19 09:38:30 AM  
So the bullies have stepped up the "Dee's Nuts" joke. Good for them.
 
2013-06-19 09:39:02 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?


If they're in a facility that grinds peanuts? Possibly.
If they're in a lunchroom, no.

Either way, inhalation goes to the lungs, not the stomach, so it's not going to trigger the allergy.
 
2013-06-19 09:39:08 AM  
 

Kirzania: /confused


Ok, you know what. It's early. I've only had one shot of espresso. Allergies can be via inhalation, ingestion or dermal absorption. Duh. Why ELSE would the allergy skin tests make my arms go completely batshiat?
 
2013-06-19 09:39:45 AM  
Didn't this happen on  Freaks and Geeks?
 
2013-06-19 09:40:30 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?


Not in quantities enough to cause a serious reaction. It has been published time and time again the amount of peanut dust needed to cause a serious reaction would first suffocate the person.
 
2013-06-19 09:40:54 AM  

nburghmatt: darwinpolice: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

In the very same sentence, it mentions switching lunches, which is definitely potentially fatal.

that's my question there. who are these kids that don't look at what they're eating?


I imagine a sandwich with almond butter looks pretty similar to one with peanut butter? I don't know if people with peanut allergies can eat almonds. Or soy milks looks like real milk, gluten free bread like real bread etc.
 
2013-06-19 09:41:37 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?


Ever smelled a peanut? You inhaled some of it.
 
2013-06-19 09:41:43 AM  

mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist


A specialist is someone who learns more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing.

All serious bullet reactions result from "ingestion," too.  But a gun can definitely be a bully's tool.
 
2013-06-19 09:42:13 AM  

hailin: Not in quantities enough to cause a serious reaction. It has been published time and time again the amount of peanut dust needed to cause a serious reaction would first suffocate the person.


Though there is that...
 
2013-06-19 09:43:54 AM  
Um, intentionally and knowingly exposing someone to an allergen is aggravated assault at the minimum.  When adults do it (if it's ingested) it's attempted murder, usually first degree.

Deal with this the same way you would a bully pulling a knife on another student or hitting them with a pipe or something.  You don't need new and special regulations for it, kids have been starting physical fights since forever.

AverageAmericanGuy: Can peanut particulates be inhaled?


In quantities sufficient to cause a reaction, no.

I'm assuming you're using a loose definition of "particulates" here to mean "all the chemicals in the peanut butter".  If you literally mean particulates, then the answer is "no, and you're a farking moron".
 
2013-06-19 09:44:04 AM  
BarkingUnicorn:All serious bullet reactions result from "ingestion," too.  But a gun can definitely be a bully's tool.

Bullet ingestion? Clearly I've been using my gun all wrong.
 
2013-06-19 09:44:04 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?

Ever smelled a peanut? You inhaled some of it.


I'm not allergic to peanuts, so I'm safe, but some kids go into anaphylactic shock when exposed to the smell of peanuts.

But Darwin's at work, eh? Culling the herd of those lesser people. Not even really people, just human-like, under-evolved animal things, isn't that right, libs?

Sometimes Fark is really disappointing.
 
2013-06-19 09:44:39 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

A specialist is someone who learns more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing.

All serious bullet reactions result from "ingestion," too.  But a gun can definitely be a bully's tool.


I don't think that word means what you think it means...
 
2013-06-19 09:44:53 AM  
Wan't there a Disney or Nick show where one of the characters was going to have gluten issues? So all the other kids on the show were going to throw pancakes at him/her(which would have been the best episode ever for a kid's show).  The all the gluten folks got butthurt and they did not air it

Sad - I went down the street and threw flour bombs at the family with the gluten intolerant kid in protest
 
2013-06-19 09:45:26 AM  

Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??


It's Bethesda. That kid has probably never touched a surface that wasn't sterilized first.
 
2013-06-19 09:45:45 AM  

mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist


can you help explain to me when exactly nuts (the edible kind, well, to most people) end up being more frowned upon than bringing a pocket knife to school? and who specifically i should kick in the ass because of it?
 
2013-06-19 09:45:54 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Um, intentionally and knowingly exposing someone to an allergen is aggravated assault at the minimum.  When adults do it (if it's ingested) it's attempted murder, usually first degree.

Deal with this the same way you would a bully pulling a knife on another student or hitting them with a pipe or something.  You don't need new and special regulations for it, kids have been starting physical fights since forever.

AverageAmericanGuy: Can peanut particulates be inhaled?

In quantities sufficient to cause a reaction, no.

I'm assuming you're using a loose definition of "particulates" here to mean "all the chemicals in the peanut butter".


I said peanuts, not peanut butter.
 
2013-06-19 09:46:14 AM  
I wonder how large a school would need to be before effectively all foods were an allergen for one or more students, and how that could be dealt with.
 
2013-06-19 09:46:36 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

It's Bethesda. That kid has probably never touched a surface that wasn't sterilized first.


I don't know, they probably touched their mom at some point.
 
2013-06-19 09:46:46 AM  
Came for this. Am leaving disappoint.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 09:46:49 AM  
So if some kid is an asshat and the kid with the allergy dies, Wouldn't that be murder?
 
2013-06-19 09:46:50 AM  
They learned this from watching Doctor Who defeating cybermen.
 
2013-06-19 09:47:20 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.


cedar pollen doesn't cause anaphylaxis
 
2013-06-19 09:48:36 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: Dictatorial_Flair: AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?

Ever smelled a peanut? You inhaled some of it.

I'm not allergic to peanuts, so I'm safe, but some kids go into anaphylactic shock when exposed to the smell of peanuts.


Well if you're just going to make things up.

"How then do we explain the case reports that have been associated with the odor of peanuts?These can be conditioned physiologic responses, akin to the famous experiment of Pavlov, inwhich dogs were conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell. Almost any physiologic responsecan be conditioned, including changes in blood pressure, heart rate, body temperature, skinrashes, and respiration. The conditioning stimulus can be the sound of a bell or in this case, thesmell and aroma of peanuts and peanut butter."

Kids who have allergic reactions to the "smell" of peanuts do it because they're parents convinced them they would.
 
2013-06-19 09:49:25 AM  
What the hell is wrong with kids these days? Seriously are more and more people just becoming shiatty parents? I had a food allergy as a kid, so whenever people brought birthday snacks in the parents would make sure to include a variety so I could have something. If they couldn't (like the brought in a cake) they would just call my mom and she would send me in with a snack. My classmates also took care to make sure I avoided any foods that would trigger my allergies. It wasn't a big deal though and my allergy wasn't banned from the school. We also grew up with a kid who stuttered and someone with diabetes, but none of us were bullied because of it. Maybe I grew up in some sort of Stepford community, but it just wasn't a big deal back then.
 
2013-06-19 09:50:14 AM  

CitizenjaQ: Didn't this happen on  Freaks and Geeks?


"So what now, Haverchuck? Do we need to call an ambulence?"
"Yes."
 
2013-06-19 09:50:24 AM  

ChaosStar: BarkingUnicorn: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

A specialist is someone who learns more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing.

All serious bullet reactions result from "ingestion," too.  But a gun can definitely be a bully's tool.

I don't think that word means what you think it means...


I don't think quotation marks mean what you think they mean.
 
2013-06-19 09:51:03 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Dictatorial_Flair: AverageAmericanGuy: ChaosStar: AverageAmericanGuy: mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

 Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people.  Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous
//board certified allergist

And inhalation of particulates doesn't cause an allergic reaction?

I'll just go tell the cedar pollen to fark off then.

Is cedar pollen food?

Can peanut particulates be inhaled?

Ever smelled a peanut? You inhaled some of it.

I'm not allergic to peanuts, so I'm safe, but some kids go into anaphylactic shock when exposed to the smell of peanuts.

But Darwin's at work, eh? Culling the herd of those lesser people. Not even really people, just human-like, under-evolved animal things, isn't that right, libs?

Sometimes Fark is really disappointing.


The smell of peanuts doesn't come from the protein, which is the part responsible for the allergen. It's why people with peanut allergies can still eat peanut oil and things cooked in it.
 
2013-06-19 09:52:39 AM  

Carth: "How then do we explain the case reports that have been associated with the odor of peanuts?These can be conditioned physiologic responses, akin to the famous experiment of Pavlov, inwhich dogs were conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell. Almost any physiologic responsecan be conditioned, including changes in blood pressure, heart rate, body temperature, skinrashes, and respiration. The conditioning stimulus can be the sound of a bell or in this case, thesmell and aroma of peanuts and peanut butter."

Kids who have allergic reactions to the "smell" of peanuts do it because they're parents convinced them they would.


Well, then let's go ahead and read their conclusions, then.

Most reasonable action plans that include no food sharing, hand washing, and peanut-free zone 
guidelines will prevent this from occurring
.
 
2013-06-19 09:52:56 AM  

Astorix: I remeber this woman in Toronto wanted all the oak trees chopped down because she was afraid that her precious snowflake would somehow be foreced to eat one. Her request spawned so much derision she had to retract the request and guess what. Her precious snowflake began to be teased and bullied.

Hovercraft parenting. Ya gotta love it.


I'm having a mental picture of some kid being force-fed an oak tree.
 
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