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2013-06-19 09:28:43 AM  
And here's what will be playing during that long ride:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxbSRpVJ3s&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 
2013-06-19 09:35:11 AM  
Why cables when they could run on cogged tracks?
 
2013-06-19 09:35:36 AM  
www.youdontknowjersey.com

You called?
 
2013-06-19 09:38:34 AM  

way south: Why cables when they could run on cogged tracks?


Counterweight. Helps to reduce the amount or force required to move the elevator. With a cog and track system, you wouldn't have that advantage. I imagine mechanical wear, speed, and smoothness all have an impact as well.
 
2013-06-19 09:41:09 AM  

way south: Why cables when they could run on cogged tracks?


^

The only reason I'm guessing they still want to use cable is for an energy efficient counterweight system, but that too can be done without cable, it would just take a little extra engineering.
 
2013-06-19 10:00:54 AM  
Call me when this hits 100km.
 
2013-06-19 10:23:39 AM  
Wow, I wonder how big of a shaft it's going to take to hold it.
 
2013-06-19 10:30:12 AM  
Mag-lift systems should be in use by now.
 
2013-06-19 10:46:49 AM  

BarleyGnome: Mag-lift systems should be in use by now.


I thought we'd have too-cheap-to-meter nuclear power and the leisure society by now.
 
2013-06-19 10:57:43 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: BarleyGnome: Mag-lift systems should be in use by now.

I thought we'd have too-cheap-to-meter nuclear power and the leisure society by now.


We should all have solar houses by now.. And jet-packs!
 
2013-06-19 10:58:29 AM  
How tall of a building would you need to utilize a single 1km shaft effectively.  It makes some sense to have an express from the bottom to the very top, but in reality a long lift shaft would be best used for an intermediate floor height and then disembark for elevators to greater and lower height from the demarcation level.
 
2013-06-19 12:35:00 PM  
It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

i106.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-19 01:24:22 PM  

KellyX: It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

[i106.photobucket.com image 800x102]


Look, I don't like the threadshiatter either, but what you are doing is even worse. Seriously. Stop that. You should feel ashamed.
 
2013-06-19 01:43:19 PM  

show me: Wow, I wonder how big of a shaft it's going to take to hold it.


That's what she said.
 
2013-06-19 01:53:38 PM  

Summercat: KellyX: It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

[i106.photobucket.com image 800x102]

Look, I don't like the threadshiatter either, but what you are doing is even worse. Seriously. Stop that. You should feel ashamed.


Not sure why I should feel shame, I'm so sick of him.
 
2013-06-19 02:49:57 PM  

Summercat: KellyX: It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

[i106.photobucket.com image 800x102]

Look, I don't like the threadshiatter either, but what you are doing is even worse. Seriously. Stop that. You should feel ashamed.


You kids sure are testy today. What's the matter?
 
2013-06-19 02:57:51 PM  

KellyX: Summercat: KellyX: It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

[i106.photobucket.com image 800x102]

Look, I don't like the threadshiatter either, but what you are doing is even worse. Seriously. Stop that. You should feel ashamed.

Not sure why I should feel shame, I'm so sick of him.


Then be the better man, and ignore him. He's an angry person who takes a dump on a certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason, but by all that is holy, don't take screenshots of his comments and post them in thread. You're drawing attention to him and giving him an even greater spotlight. Stop it.
 
2013-06-19 03:03:32 PM  

Summercat: certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason


I'm against the delusions I see here. Don't pretend you're this rational scientific atheist. You're not. You believe that fictional daydreams are the same as technology. A better man would challenge his own assumptions and question where his narrative came from.

But this is a painful, adult process. Won't happen soon from what I see from you two.
 
2013-06-19 03:31:05 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Summercat: certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason

I'm against the delusions I see here. Don't pretend you're this rational scientific atheist. You're not. You believe that fictional daydreams are the same as technology. A better man would challenge his own assumptions and question where his narrative came from.

But this is a painful, adult process. Won't happen soon from what I see from you two.


You're a raving lunatic and recovering Believer projecting your failure and gullibility on others. It's really time for you to get professional help.
 
2013-06-19 03:48:12 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Quantum Apostrophe: Summercat: certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason

I'm against the delusions I see here. Don't pretend you're this rational scientific atheist. You're not. You believe that fictional daydreams are the same as technology. A better man would challenge his own assumptions and question where his narrative came from.

But this is a painful, adult process. Won't happen soon from what I see from you two.

You're a raving lunatic and recovering Believer projecting your failure and gullibility on others. It's really time for you to get professional help.


You believe the very crap I used to believe in.

What does that say about you?

How is it *my* failure that the nonsense and delusional propaganda is just that?

It's *my* fault materials and energy sources are limited?

It's *my* fault you believe pablum for babies?
 
2013-06-19 04:16:18 PM  
img.fark.net
/no pun intended
 
2013-06-19 04:44:07 PM  

Summercat: KellyX: Summercat: KellyX: It doesn't matter what the hell it is, if it's technology, he'll come in shiat all over everything...

[i106.photobucket.com image 800x102]

Look, I don't like the threadshiatter either, but what you are doing is even worse. Seriously. Stop that. You should feel ashamed.

Not sure why I should feel shame, I'm so sick of him.

Then be the better man, and ignore him. He's an angry person who takes a dump on a certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason, but by all that is holy, don't take screenshots of his comments and post them in thread. You're drawing attention to him and giving him an even greater spotlight. Stop it.


He is the only person I have on ignore.  Why don't we all make a deal?  If anyone really, really needs to respond to him, fine, JUST DON"T QUOTE HIM.  Then the rest of us can be blissfully unaware of his ravings.
 
2013-06-19 04:44:44 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Quantum Apostrophe: Summercat: certain subset of science and technology for god knows what real reason

I'm against the delusions I see here. Don't pretend you're this rational scientific atheist. You're not. You believe that fictional daydreams are the same as technology. A better man would challenge his own assumptions and question where his narrative came from.

But this is a painful, adult process. Won't happen soon from what I see from you two.

You're a raving lunatic and recovering Believer projecting your failure and gullibility on others. It's really time for you to get professional help.


DOH!
 
2013-06-19 06:45:31 PM  

servlet: way south: Why cables when they could run on cogged tracks?

Counterweight. Helps to reduce the amount or force required to move the elevator. With a cog and track system, you wouldn't have that advantage. I imagine mechanical wear, speed, and smoothness all have an impact as well.


You also still need to find a material to make cogs and tracks of that can support their own weight with minimal support structure in either case.
 
2013-06-19 07:45:54 PM  
Well you see, the headline had the word "space" in it. As we know when Querulous Arsecrack sees that word it triggers his PTSD and he flashes back to that accident with the model rocket and his rectum that he suffered when he was but a tiny thread shiatter. After that he just can't control his bowels well enough to keep from laying a steaming one all over the thread. We shouldn't berate him, he's simply a victim and deserves our pity.
 
2013-06-20 12:12:32 AM  

way south: Why cables when they could run on cogged tracks?


Ever been on a roller coaster? It would sound a lot like that. I can't imagine any geared design being allowed without a lock at each step. As mentioned above, counter-weighting wouldn't be as effective, and the cost to hoist that thing would be significant.
 
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