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(Metro)   We'll never have flying cars until we have flying bikes .. and that time has come thanks to two British designers and the Kickstarter crowd   (metro.co.uk) divider line 86
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2013-06-18 05:19:40 PM
Mind the Poppins!
 
2013-06-18 08:36:03 PM
Have they thought out their cunning plan? I can see the NYC bike messengers now.
/they're bad enough dodging on street level.
 
2013-06-18 08:48:30 PM
ooooh, target practice.
 
2013-06-18 08:50:50 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Mind the Poppins!


That's what the insurance guys will call it when some moron crashes his flying bike through your roof.
 
2013-06-18 08:50:52 PM
Four wheels? These guys need to look up the word "bicycle" in the dictionary.
 
2013-06-18 08:51:10 PM
Bad boy, bad boy, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
 
2013-06-18 08:51:29 PM
Better luck this time.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-18 08:51:35 PM
Bicycles don't have four wheels.
 
2013-06-18 08:53:57 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

/oblig
 
2013-06-18 08:57:12 PM
I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-06-18 08:57:18 PM
You gotta appreciate his Styrofoam bike helmet.
 
2013-06-18 08:57:59 PM
ummmm
www.wired.com
 
2013-06-18 08:59:03 PM
Fail image D:
File too big


http://i.imgur.com/0HuwBdh.gif
 
2013-06-18 09:01:09 PM
Um...

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-18 09:03:51 PM
I cringe at the coming self-injury videos that will come from this.
 
2013-06-18 09:06:16 PM
Great, flying douches in spandex!
 
2013-06-18 09:06:42 PM
No hoverbikes? For shame!
 
2013-06-18 09:06:56 PM
img.fark.net

Approves
 
2013-06-18 09:12:50 PM
Am I in before speeder bikes from RotJ
 
2013-06-18 09:13:05 PM
I guess in some loose way you could describe that vehicle as a bike... but it's not flying under human power, that's for sure.
 
2013-06-18 09:19:36 PM

Dustin_00: I cringe at the coming self-injury videos that will come from this.


What are you kidding me? That's the kind of present that keeps on giving. It will be like the past decade's skateboard-stunt videos.
 
2013-06-18 09:19:59 PM

Mentalpatient87: UrukHaiGuyz: Mind the Poppins!

That's what the insurance guys will call it when some moron crashes his flying bike through your roof.


It's fairly light, The average rider will just bounce off your roof and fall to his death.
 
2013-06-18 09:22:07 PM
Yeah, that looks practical.
 
2013-06-18 09:25:49 PM
Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.
 
2013-06-18 09:25:53 PM

Andulamb: Yeah, that looks practical.


Exactly.  I'll be excited when it's practical.
 
2013-06-18 09:32:44 PM

liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.


Every one I've ever been asked to give to is basically someone looking to dupe other people into buying something for their business that they should be buying for themselves.  In at least 3 cases, something that they already had the money for, but thought, "what the hell - let's see if I can kickstarter the money up".  In exchange, the contributors got small rewards of their product which cost them pennies to make and which normally sold for a few bucks.

Or someone wants to be an ar-teest and start a theater company, but wants everyone else to pay for it.

Nice work if you can get it, but I've never seen one I'd give money to.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-06-18 09:35:49 PM
"As Gos as my witness I thought bikes could fly"
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-06-18 09:36:45 PM

gja: "As God as my witness I thought bikes could fly"


FTFM
 
2013-06-18 09:38:11 PM
Oh great, just what we need, a critical mass of assholes riding their bikes in the skies.
 
2013-06-18 09:39:53 PM

Mock26: Oh great, just what we need, a critical mass of assholes riding their bikes in the skies.


Agreed.

Plus I'm guessing these things will be ungodly loud. Do we really need flying leaf blowers?
 
2013-06-18 09:42:18 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Every one I've ever been asked to give to is basically someone looking to dupe other people into buying something for their business that they should be buying for themselves.  In at least 3 cases, something that they already had the money for, but thought, "what the hell - let's see if I can kickstarter the money up".  In exchange, the contributors got small rewards of their product which cost them pennies to make and which normally sold for a few bucks.

Or someone wants to be an ar-teest and start a theater company, but wants everyone else to pay for it.

Nice work if you can get it, but I've never seen one I'd give money to.


If I'm going to give money to a for-profit business venture, I expect some type of equity in return.
 
2013-06-18 09:43:00 PM
Wait, the FIRST such craft??? I've seen powered parachutes for years! I daydreamed about them back in 1997.
 
2013-06-18 09:44:47 PM
If that's a flying bike then I'm straight and sober.
 
2013-06-18 09:47:01 PM
Do people really think flying cars is a good idea? People can't drive in 2 axis.
 
2013-06-18 09:53:22 PM
Nytfall:
Approves


During my childhood, that was the first movie I ever saw that disappointed me.
 
2013-06-18 09:56:16 PM

StopLurkListen: Benevolent Misanthrope: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Every one I've ever been asked to give to is basically someone looking to dupe other people into buying something for their business that they should be buying for themselves.  In at least 3 cases, something that they already had the money for, but thought, "what the hell - let's see if I can kickstarter the money up".  In exchange, the contributors got small rewards of their product which cost them pennies to make and which normally sold for a few bucks.

Or someone wants to be an ar-teest and start a theater company, but wants everyone else to pay for it.

Nice work if you can get it, but I've never seen one I'd give money to.

If I'm going to give money to a for-profit business venture, I expect some type of equity in return.


Well, in at least one case, you got $1.99 (retail) worth of heirloom hand crafted hard candy.  Unless you gave $5,000, in which case you got a tiny brass plaque with your name attached to one of the candy machines and a picture of the staff in front of the machine.  And about 10 bucks (retail) of heirloom hand crafted hard candy.
 
2013-06-18 09:58:10 PM
 
2013-06-18 10:05:32 PM
I just backed it. 1 Bp won't break the bank.
 
2013-06-18 10:05:34 PM
25 mph?  What good is that unless your daily commute is the DC Beltway?
 
2013-06-18 10:09:06 PM

Myth Sammich: I just backed it. 1 Bp won't break the bank.


Fool.
 
2013-06-18 10:13:49 PM

FrancoFile: 25 mph?  What good is that unless your daily commute is the DC Beltway?


and with all the restricted airspace... good luck.
 
2013-06-18 10:14:33 PM
The retards on kickstarter would fund a perpetual motion machine. Kickstarter is proof that the average 20 year old is a terrible VC.
 
2013-06-18 10:21:13 PM
Yannick Read and John Foden's XploreAir X1 can reach altitudes of 4,000 ft but doesn't require a special licence to operate.

I predict this will end badly.
 
2013-06-18 10:23:39 PM

liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.


Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.
 
2013-06-18 10:26:26 PM
If this hasn't already been said, I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

It's not a bike. A bicycle has only two wheels.

I believe calling it a bike, is akin to calling it an airplane.
 
2013-06-18 10:29:19 PM
Man, that is some dangerous shiat right there.
 
2013-06-18 10:29:29 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: ummmm
[www.wired.com image 660x530]


Now THAT's a bike.

AND an airplane...

'Twas what I first thought of.
 
2013-06-18 10:29:38 PM
I came to complain what about the powered parachute trikes that are already out there.  Oh but they are just going to do it on a bike with giant training wheels...WTF FLAMPING? bye.
 
2013-06-18 10:29:43 PM

StopLurkListen: Myth Sammich: I just backed it. 1 Bp won't break the bank.

Fool.


For encouraging innovation? I realize it's not the first or even the best of it's kind, but it is versatile. Beside all that, it reminded me that I should focus more on making my own dreams come true, not just wax poetic about it. For that, 100 pence.
 
2013-06-18 10:30:53 PM

whatshisname: Great, flying douches in spandex!


Now that's funny...
 
2013-06-18 10:31:38 PM
The hell with this. What we need are personal blimps. The fun of seeing everyone bouncing off buildings and each other would make rush hour like the best pinball game ever.
 
2013-06-18 10:34:46 PM

TastyEloi: Mock26: Oh great, just what we need, a critical mass of assholes riding their bikes in the skies.

Agreed.

Plus I'm guessing these things will be ungodly loud. Do we really need flying leaf blowers?


You've successfully destroyed my enthusiasm for this Darwin's tool.


Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-18 10:34:48 PM

SomeoneDumb: The hell with this. What we need are personal blimps. The fun of seeing everyone bouncing off buildings and each other would make rush hour like the best pinball game ever.


Top Gear did it. Captain Slow got blown over an airport and nearly got hit by a landing airplane.
 
2013-06-18 10:36:19 PM

Mock26: Oh great, just what we need, a critical mass of assholes riding their bikes in the skies.


Right; that would cause disruptions on the ground, because most motorists are too stupid to be able to keep their eyes on the road instead of... Oh look, a squirrel... oh just let me send this text,  blah, blah, blah. oops, sorry 'bout that, should I call an ambulance for you...
 
2013-06-18 10:38:05 PM

fluffy2097: SomeoneDumb: The hell with this. What we need are personal blimps. The fun of seeing everyone bouncing off buildings and each other would make rush hour like the best pinball game ever.

Top Gear did it. Captain Slow got blown over an airport and nearly got hit by a landing airplane.


I remember that. Now, multiply that mischief by a million or two and we're talking entertainment that will mean the end to TV forever once and for all.

I'm picturing blimps about six feet long.
 
2013-06-18 10:38:15 PM
img.fark.net
It's also amazing how much a color inversion looks like infrared.
 
2013-06-18 10:50:00 PM

Medic Zero: TastyEloi: Mock26: Oh great, just what we need, a critical mass of assholes riding their bikes in the skies.

Agreed.

Plus I'm guessing these things will be ungodly loud. Do we really need flying leaf blowers?

You've successfully destroyed my enthusiasm for this Darwin's tool.


Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
[img.fark.net image 500x371]


I got megaforce, forgot about those guys.
 
2013-06-18 10:50:53 PM

timujin: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.


"Invest"? You're a god damn digital panhandler. Do your "investors" get any equity for their "investment"? Do they have any claim on assets? Do they get a return on their equity?

Congratulations on being a digital version of the dirty homeless guy that blocks the sidewalk. Your parents must be so proud.
 
2013-06-18 10:52:49 PM
No bikes.  Quit stalling and get my flying car already.
 
2013-06-18 10:53:33 PM

Myth Sammich: StopLurkListen: Myth Sammich: I just backed it. 1 Bp won't break the bank.

Fool.

For encouraging innovation? I realize it's not the first or even the best of it's kind, but it is versatile. Beside all that, it reminded me that I should focus more on making my own dreams come true, not just wax poetic about it. For that, 100 pence.


Would it be any smarter to waste 100,000 on this? No? Then how could wasting Dime One on these online scam artists make any more sense?

You're a damn fool at any amount.
 
2013-06-18 11:01:12 PM

StopLurkListen: timujin: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.

"Invest"? You're a god damn digital panhandler. Do your "investors" get any equity for their "investment"? Do they have any claim on assets? Do they get a return on their equity?

Congratulations on being a digital version of the dirty homeless guy that blocks the sidewalk. Your parents must be so proud.


So you're the type that only gambles on a sure win? One that only gives when there is something to be gained? Since you're so quick to label - a naysayer, a misanthrope, and a troll are thee.
 
2013-06-18 11:01:43 PM

StopLurkListen: timujin: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.

"Invest"? You're a god damn digital panhandler. Do your "investors" get any equity for their "investment"? Do they have any claim on assets? Do they get a return on their equity?

Congratulations on being a digital version of the dirty homeless guy that blocks the sidewalk. Your parents must be so proud.


I think he was saying he's gotten whatever product he was supposed to get in return for his investment, not that he was looking for investors.

In any event, I agree with you about kickstarter.  It may not all be bad, but signal to noise ratio is crappy.
 
2013-06-19 01:01:56 AM
Sorry, but unless its actually powered by human energy output, its not a flying bike, its a "carbon fuel-powered ultralight with wheels".

Sorry Libs, but yes, electricity is a carbon-fuel. And until we can harness the energy of you jacking it to unrealistic depictions of actual physics, "free" energy will remain lib-code for "requires enormous public subsidies to be viable". But by all means, keep jacking it. Just stop voting.
 
2013-06-19 01:12:22 AM

timujin: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.


I was talking about KS in general. I have funded a couple projects and got my rewards save for one, The Last Cause by Linh Mia. He put the project "on ice" to go film in China and hasn't posted an update in almost a year. He has got into some spats with other backers and one even threaten to have legal action taken. But you live and you learn to not invest in a company on a website that does nothing to regulate what goes on the website or to help if they take the money and run to another country.
 
2013-06-19 02:18:46 AM

Medic Zero: Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
img.fark.net



So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.
 
2013-06-19 02:28:23 AM

SirEattonHogg: Nytfall:
Approves


During my childhood, that was the first movie I ever saw that disappointed me.


Between the ages of 7 and 9, I watched that movie over and over again on VHS, because my parents recorded it when it aired on ABC.

It was the first movie I liked because it was terrible.
 
2013-06-19 02:30:12 AM

Do the needful: So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.


So here's a little info: http://starcarcentral.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/battlestar-galactica-1 9 80-flying-motorcycles/

/Crazy what you can find on the old interweb.
//Not sure if the old Fark filter is screwing up the 1980 in the url. It shouldn't have spaces.
 
2013-06-19 02:39:05 AM

StopLurkListen: timujin: liquidpoo: Ugh Kickstarter. Only 40% of the projects pass and some of those don't even make good on the pledges.

Weird, my success rate is close to 100%.  If I get my next one, which is supposed to ship in August and looks good to do so, it will be.  Maybe I just picked out better projects, but it seems easy enough to tell which ones are good and which are shiat.  Just don't invest in the shiat ones.

"Invest"? You're a god damn digital panhandler. Do your "investors" get any equity for their "investment"? Do they have any claim on assets? Do they get a return on their equity?

Congratulations on being a digital version of the dirty homeless guy that blocks the sidewalk. Your parents must be so proud.


Take a deep breath there, Honcho.  I didn't write that I have projects on Kickstarter, I fund them and my success rate doing so has been 100% so far with only one project yet to be delivered to me, a much higher rate than liquidpoo has stated is the norm.  I then proffered the advice that if those are accurate statistics, perhaps people should take more care in what they invest in.  Now go and rinse the sand out of your vagina.
 
2013-06-19 03:18:53 AM
Before we get flying cars (or bikes), we'll need to get self-driving cars. The only way personal flying transport will ever work is if it runs nearly entirely on autopilot.
 
2013-06-19 03:44:05 AM
I once donated 4 copies worth of money to the Chivalry Medieval Warfare kickstarter for which I received in return 4 copies of the game in good order once the kickstarter was complete and there was much beheading and dismemberment with my friends. That's the only thing I've braved on Kickstarter, but I had been following the project prior to the campaign, and the campaign was just to raise $50,000 to help advertise and ease their creditors a bit. The whole Kickstarter thing is some shady business, how long after a transaction are you allowed to ask your credit card to issue a charge-back?
 
2013-06-19 04:05:20 AM

Do the needful: Medic Zero: Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
[img.fark.net image 500x371]


So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.


Movie-props are cobled together and are seldom durable, confortable, handy or safe.
Try a with a Suzuki Katana, because of the nose, or with this, because of the Wankel:

cybermotorcycle.com
 
2013-06-19 04:36:49 AM

On-Off: Do the needful: Medic Zero: Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
[img.fark.net image 500x371]


So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.

Movie-props are cobled together and are seldom durable, confortable, handy or safe.
Try a with a Suzuki Katana, because of the nose, or with this, because of the Wankel:

[cybermotorcycle.com image 800x512]


I'll be darned. I thought the Suzuki RE-5 was the only production Wankel engine bike.
 
2013-06-19 04:44:54 AM
What these bozos have done, basically, is adapt a paramotor so that it's almost guaranteed to break your back in a hard landing. Nice work, chaps.
 
2013-06-19 07:36:10 AM
Ummmm...

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 07:40:16 AM
Ummmm, 1870's style:

connecticuthistory.org
 
2013-06-19 07:51:12 AM
That thing looks more like a microlite/powered parasail than a bike.

What you really want is the Twin-Rotor Hover-bike
 
2013-06-19 08:11:30 AM
Bike not fly... bike hang from glider.  Not want.
 
2013-06-19 09:40:39 AM
I've seen it already.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 09:46:25 AM

On-Off: Do the needful: Medic Zero: Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
[img.fark.net image 500x371]


So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.

Movie-props are cobled together and are seldom durable, confortable, handy or safe.
Try a with a Suzuki Katana, because of the nose, or with this, because of the Wankel:

[cybermotorcycle.com image 800x512]


Sorry, I think I plowed two different thoughts together there. I wasn't saying I wanted him to have the actual movie prop. First thought was where are those movie bikes. Second was mocking one up for the boy to use at college.

If I ended up finding a wankel powered bike I would have to tell my son 'tough darts. It's staying with me.' No way in hell would I let him store that on a college campus. Besides he wouldn't be able to get me off of it.
 
2013-06-19 10:56:54 AM

Do the needful: Medic Zero: Am I  really the first? What a flying bike should look like:
[img.fark.net image 500x371]


So I really want to know where those bikes are now. Are they sitting in a storage locker just waiting to be found, or are they in someone's garage in Torrance just falling apart. My son is looking for a bike to use at college. It would be awesome if I could mock up something similar. He would probably kill me though.


That was the Yamaha MX 175.
 
2013-06-19 12:54:12 PM
I don't get the ragging on Kickstarter here. I like their setup that if the goal isn't reached, the requestor gets nothing, and the donors (note that I didn't say 'investors') are out nothing. This encourages requestors to keep it reasonable with regards to what they are asking for.

That said, I've been part of Kickstarter campaigns (and indiegogo and others) and have always been happy with the results. Not all of them fund, so no big deal. Even the ones that didn't fund sometimes gave me something as a gesture of thanks (a PDF of the book they were trying to publish, for example).

Of those that did fund, I got what I expected from them, which was clearly stated up front. Sometimes I get nothing of any monetary value, but that is to be expected by the nature of the campaign (helping a minimum-wage friend with surgery expenses, for which I got to see my friend walk and eventually run again).

Yes, perhaps us Kickstarter donors are lousy VCs. That's because these projects aren't being pitched as money-makers for the donors, and no reasonable person (except a few lunkheads in this thread) confounds the words 'donation' and 'investment'. We have no illusion of being investors.
 
2013-06-19 01:22:06 PM

This text is now purple: Bicycles don't have four wheels.


They don't?

4.bp.blogspot.com
YOU LIED TO ME, DAD!  YOU SAID YOU GOT ME A BICYCLE FOR MY BIRTHDAY!
 
2013-06-19 01:34:55 PM

StopLurkListen: "Invest"? You're a god damn digital panhandler. Do your "investors" get any equity for their "investment"? Do they have any claim on assets? Do they get a return on their equity?


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 02:38:41 PM

Gothnet: That thing looks more like a microlite/powered parasail than a bike.

What you really want is the Twin-Rotor Hover-bike


I was really hoping the Kickstarter would have been for that...
 
2013-06-19 02:47:57 PM

timujin: Gothnet: That thing looks more like a microlite/powered parasail than a bike.

What you really want is the Twin-Rotor Hover-bike

I was really hoping the Kickstarter would have been for that...



Yeah, that thing looks properly awesome, but also rather unstable :)
 
2013-06-19 04:52:00 PM

TwowheelinTim: If this hasn't already been said, I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

It's not a bike. A bicycle has only two wheels.

I believe calling it a bike, is akin to calling it an airplane.


This text is now purple: Bicycles don't have four wheels.


MrEricSir: Four wheels? These guys need to look up the word "bicycle" in the dictionary.


thetubameister: Bike not fly... bike hang from glider.  Not want.


This is not a 4-wheeled vehicle. It is a bicycle with the correct number of wheels, attached to a trailer.

And it is not a bike hanging from a glider, it is a powered flying machine. It looks like it would probably glide at least well enough to make an emergency landing, but it has an engine and is designed for powered flight.

25 mph is not fast enough to make this a viable intercity transportation option, but it is certainly enough for recreational use. The clear take-off/landing space requirements mean this will not work for pizza delivery or use in metropolitan commutes, but again, it will work fine for recreation.

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I hope it works. But I'm not going to kick in 5000 pounds without getting one of my own. I wonder what the price tag will be if they get this thing into production.
 
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