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(NESN)   In a shocking turn of events, San Jose sues Major League Baseball FOR a team   (nesn.com) divider line 8
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2013-06-19 11:25:48 PM  
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drewogatory: The money from Silicon Valley, both in sponsorships and purchase of "charter seats," was vitally important to the building of the park and to the current operating budget of the Giants.

There's always going to be more cache surrounding the Giants, even with the A's in San Jose. And with both teams having such well defined fan bases I don't see it having much impact on the Giants. A few casual fans in SJ might choose to go to a couple more A's games, much like East Bay Giants fans do now (because it's cheap and there are always walk ups available, but a new park won't even be cheap).


What's so great about the Giants? You had the ra ra's going to stand up for Barry & sit right back down again, and now you've got bandwagoners for the World Series champs, but what else? Longhair cut his hair, Bochy has old man's disease in San Francisco, Buster also is an old man out there. How many Giants fans are actually Giants fans, and not spectacle bandwagon fans?

There's plenty of AL fans. There's also recent winning history with the A's (if you're not a farking teenager or if your memory of baseball extends further than Barry Bonds). The DH rule makes for more runs. If the A's had payroll, that product would be plenty good.

It might not overtake the Giants overnight, but why go all the way up to the City for Silicon Valley baseball fans?
2013-06-19 01:30:15 PM  
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ihatebuttsex: Glenn Dickey - SF Examiner

Forget the urban legend about the agreement between Bob Lurie and the late Walter Haas Jr. and territorial rights. Neither team had any rights beyond their own cities in 1990. Haas was a wonderful human being and would gladly have given Lurie the go-ahead to pursue possible parks in the San Jose area - two attempts at San Jose and Santa Clara were rebuffed by voters - but you can't give away something you don't have.
The Giants' rights were negotiated by the ownership when the team was purchased from Lurie in December of 1992. Major League Baseball demanded that the Giants get a new park to replace Candlestick within 10 years. In return, the Giants got territorial rights to the counties down the Peninsula and San Jose. The money from Silicon Valley, both in sponsorships and purchase of "charter seats," was vitally important to the building of the park and to the current operating budget of the Giants.


This is so wrong on about 100 different levels. Literally everything he said is absolutely and demonstrably false. It's sad that so many memebers of the media (KNBR and the SF Chronicle, of which Dickey used to be a huge part) are so willing to be mouthpieces for the Giants, but here we are.


Glenn Dickey needs to fark off and die already.
2013-06-18 10:37:52 PM  
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red5ish: Or, you know, the A's could just build a new ballpark in Oakland. But what they want is to have someone else pay for a new ballpark, such as the taxpayers of San Jose.


San Jose is willing and ready to do it. Why wouldn't the A's try to get that deal?
2013-06-18 09:29:04 PM  
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neuroflare: Correct me if I'm wrong.

So Candlestick is a shiathole, and the Giants needed some leverage for getting a stadium built. The A's do them a solid and give the Giants the rights to the San Jose market. This threat of moving to San Jose forces the city of SF to built AT&T park. Now the situation is reversed, and the A's are stuck in a shiathole you heard about the showers right? dual purpose facility and SF won't give them the rights back to them get a stadium.

Am I wrong or are the Giants' ownership being dicks about this?


Nope. You nailed it like others have said. A's are always getting crapped on.

/Go A's!
2013-06-18 09:16:06 PM  
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LibertyHiller: the BS that the Prince of Darkness pulled on the Coliseum Authority.


Mount Davis will always be reason number one for hating the fark out of Al.  That stadium at least made a tiny bit of sense in its old alignment, a perfectly round version of what they have in the two LA stadiums.  Now it's just beyond awkward, and probably hurts the team far more than it will ever help it.  And the worst part is, BOTH teams need a new park because of what Al did to it.
2013-06-18 07:46:26 PM  
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Correct me if I'm wrong.

So Candlestick is a shiathole, and the Giants needed some leverage for getting a stadium built. The A's do them a solid and give the Giants the rights to the San Jose market. This threat of moving to San Jose forces the city of SF to built AT&T park. Now the situation is reversed, and the A's are stuck in a shiathole you heard about the showers right? dual purpose facility and SF won't give them the rights back to them get a stadium.

Am I wrong or are the Giants' ownership being dicks about this?
2013-06-18 07:29:29 PM  
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The Bestest: Lunchlady: Then they stay in Oakland. I think San Jose is doing this so they can finally have a plan when it comes to building a stadium and/or land use.

I was thinking more the "Do the A's start seriously exploring leaving the Bay Area at that point?" angle.


Maybe go back to Philadelphia and give that area an American League team?
2013-06-18 06:04:58 PM  
1 votes:
Another A's thread!

Go A's!!!

/But not to San Jose please.
 
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