umad: Hey now, it takes some time to talk a patsy into taking possession of your fake bomb so you can arrest them for it. They are going as fast as they can to inflate their numbers to make this "seem reasonable."
Pocket Ninja: I suspect that "potential terrorist attacks" are calculated almost exactly like the "street value" of marijuana and other drugs seized during high-profile police raids.
pdkl95: If the NSA has anywhere even CLOSE to the amount of data they are suspected of gathering (which is basically guaranteed at this point), they probability of finding ANYTHING you wanted to find approaches 100%. You end up seeing your own influence on the data more than any actual finding, because you're looking signal way below the noise floor.
Wayne 985: I'm dying to know what opponents of this NSA programs think the administration got out of this aside from legitimate defense. They weren't even listening to calls; they were looking at records. It's like if they kept records of the addresses on your envelopes, but didn't open the letters. I'm baffled as to what nefarious activity people think they could have been up to.
Walker: I don't care if it prevented one million bomb plots, you can't crumble up the Constitution and throw it in the trash because you don't agree with it. 4th amendment motherf*ckers. Read it, learn it, live it.
whither_apophis: So if we've been recording calls why can't the DOJ listen in and find the evidence they need to prosecute banksters?
tinyarena: Metadata: an massive relational index of informationCloud Computing: sharing a complex program's task across many servers, effective for 'brute force' programmingNatural Language Algorithm: A program that teaches itself the relationship and meaning of communicationsThere is no human being snooping on you. There is an army of lighting fast, semi-intelligent machines snooping on us all.
Mock26: Do not care. I would rather have a 9/11 repeated every farking year than to have the government spying on us.
jiggs: Which amendment was the "Ends justify the means" one?
weltallica: Wall Street? PROTECTED.Main Street? YOUR FAULT FOR NOT BEING JOB CREATORS.
Sunidesus: fusillade762: testified that the programs helped stop more than 50 "potential terrorist events" since the 9/11 attacks.Yesterday it was 20. I'm betting by the end of the week it'll be up to a thousand.That was my first thought as well. First "number" I heard was several, then it was a dozen, then 20, then 50. I'd be really curious to know how many (if any) of the supposed cases were solely dependent on the spying.
fusillade762: testified that the programs helped stop more than 50 "potential terrorist events" since the 9/11 attacks.Yesterday it was 20. I'm betting by the end of the week it'll be up to a thousand.
tinyarena: I just love their expressions,,[img.fark.net image 800x273]They all have the "was that wrong? should I not have done that?" look
Debeo Summa Credo: Turns out this "terror" plot was just some OWS moron planning to take a dump on the sidewalk in front of the exchange. Excuse me if I'm not impressed.
HeartBurnKid: Benevolent Misanthrope: By the time this is over, it'll be a thousand acts of terror thwarted, all wiretapping by the government is legal, and anyone who questions the figures will be "unpatriotic".Nah, Bush left office in '08.
The Southern Dandy: Yeah yeah yeah. Snooping saved us all, and it was ONLY snooping that saved. It is the miracle cure for terrorism. Without it, we'd all be dead.For years, we've heard cops say, "If only we could wire tap this guy, or lock up that guy without a warrant, it would make our job easier", but they couldn't do that because it is a violation of the constitution. Cops have had to live with constitutional restrictions for 222 years. The NSA is no different. And saying it was a panacea that saved us all from destruction is 1) bullshiat, and 2) not a valid reason to subvert the constitution.
globalwarmingpraiser: Benevolent Misanthrope: Aarontology: Amazing how we didn't hear about any foiled plots, or had any trials for those committing them, or anything at all that would verify their story.fusillade762: testified that the programs helped stop more than 50 "potential terrorist events" since the 9/11 attacks.Yesterday it was 20. I'm betting by the end of the week it'll be up to a thousand.My first thought was, "Proof?"By the time this is over, it'll be a thousand acts of terror thwarted, all wiretapping by the government is legal, and anyone who questions the figures will be "unpatriotic".Seriously, US - is no one down there paying attention?A lot of us are and are calling BS on this. We also think the Bush administration did the same crap.
Aarontology: Amazing how we didn't hear about any foiled plots, or had any trials for those committing them, or anything at all that would verify their story.
IrateShadow: Protecting Wall Street at the expense of a blue-collar city like Boston? That is so like this administration.
Lando Lincoln: Oh, well, in that case, feel free to gather as much private information as you like.As long as you're keeping us SAFE then why should we care if we don't have any privacy anymore?
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