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2013-06-18 03:31:29 PM  
Permafrost? I think NOT.
 
2013-06-18 03:38:33 PM  
img0085.popscreencdn.com    +   ww4.hdnux.com        =   img.foodnetwork.com
 
2013-06-18 03:38:55 PM  
I'm pretty sure this guy was baked in Alaska:

static.tvguide.com
 
2013-06-18 03:39:59 PM  
That'll make your moose sweat
 
2013-06-18 03:48:08 PM  
It's getting hot in herre, so hot, so take off your anorak
I am, getting so hot, I wanna take my mukluks off
 
2013-06-18 04:01:09 PM  
Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?
 
2013-06-18 04:04:11 PM  
I'd like to go on record and declare that Baked Alaska is terrible and should never be eaten by anyone.
 
2013-06-18 04:04:33 PM  

nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?


*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!
 
2013-06-18 04:04:36 PM  
Clearly Gawd Smiting the Weather Dominator (aka HAARP)
 
2013-06-18 04:04:48 PM  
If this keeps up there is going to be some fine realestate opportunities up there soon. I'll take a mountian view please.
 
2013-06-18 04:05:27 PM  
0.tqn.com
 
2013-06-18 04:07:56 PM  
My cousin lives in Fairbanks, and observed that a couple of months ago it was 137 degrees colder than it is now.  Ugh.
 
2013-06-18 04:09:08 PM  
Jesus said on Fox News that He will protect us all from the lies of climate change told by liberals, so I don't care.
 
2013-06-18 04:09:33 PM  
What, at first glance, seem like low-flying C-130 aircraft, are, in fact, the breed of mosquito referred to as "Little Friendly Guys"
 
hej
2013-06-18 04:11:43 PM  
This is Allahs way of telling Sarah Palin to STFU.
 
2013-06-18 04:11:52 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


And the year before that Southcentral Alaska set a 100+ year record for snow.

Hell, even my dog started hanging out up on the roof...

imageshack.us
 
2013-06-18 04:14:38 PM  
I'm in Juneau at the moment. It was hot enough last night that I had to keep my window open...which was nice when the sun came up at 3:30 am!
 
2013-06-18 04:15:02 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


...maybe because "wacky weather" seems to be becoming more and more common.......

I'm sure this is not at all related to the polar icecap melting or glabal warming in any way. It was probably just their "Inidan" Summer".....  and I bet the Alaskan bears  (and other assorted wildlife) would have moved to the Carribean years ago if we'd have only let them..............
 
2013-06-18 04:16:34 PM  
Surf Alaska!!!
 
2013-06-18 04:18:16 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


Why, it's almost as if global warming contributes to greater and greater temperature swings or something.

Scientists should look into this new theory which is really new and is not old at all.
 
2013-06-18 04:18:36 PM  

pheed: I'm in Juneau at the moment. It was hot enough last night that I had to keep my window open...which was nice when the sun came up at 3:30 am!


Willow Alaska, June 17, 2013.

img10.imageshack.us

(image is hot in more ways than one)
 
2013-06-18 04:19:39 PM  
It's been seriously hot for the last three weeks here in Juneau. We got a break due to a thunderstorm last night. But thunderstorms are really rare here. Last year we didn't really have a summer, just a short respite from winter.
 
2013-06-18 04:20:04 PM  
The core of heat was lodged over south central Alaska where the mercury spiked into the mid-90s Monday, nearly 30 degrees above average and warmer than anywhere east of the Mississippi in the contiguous U.S.

'Mid-90s' and 'Alaska' are not words I expected to see in the same sentence.
 
2013-06-18 04:20:41 PM  
Palin heat haze gone thru her brain,
Maybe her husband Todd he don't seem the same,
He's acting queerly but she don't know why,
'Scuse him while he tongues that guy!
 
2013-06-18 04:21:08 PM  

Oldiron_79: Clearly Gawd Smiting the Weather Dominator (aka HAARP)


Came in to say that HAARP got discombobulated and reversed itself.

beforeitsnews.com
 
2013-06-18 04:21:26 PM  

pheed: I'm in Juneau at the moment. It was hot enough last night that I had to keep my window open...which was nice when the sun came up at 3:30 am!


sunrise at 3:30 am! Damn, climate change really is causing some strange weather.
 
2013-06-18 04:21:46 PM  

Skyd1v: pheed: I'm in Juneau at the moment. It was hot enough last night that I had to keep my window open...which was nice when the sun came up at 3:30 am!

Willow Alaska, June 17, 2013.

[img10.imageshack.us image 554x413]

(image is hot in more ways than one)


If that happened in Juneau the streets would be filled with corpses. The humidity here is insane.
 
2013-06-18 04:24:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: That'll make your moose sweat


I hear the sweat pools in their knuckles.
 
2013-06-18 04:25:43 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


Regularly occurring deviations that are in one direction.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/globalwarming/ar4-fig-3-6.gif
 
2013-06-18 04:25:49 PM  

Skyd1v: Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!

And the year before that Southcentral Alaska set a 100+ year record for snow.

Hell, even my dog started hanging out up on the roof...

[imageshack.us image 640x404]


Nice.

My mom was in Cooper Landing visiting family a few weeks ago.  In every picture, they're wearing jackets.  Just missed it mom.
 
2013-06-18 04:26:21 PM  

hej: This is Allahs way of telling Sarah Palin to STFU.


You can swim to Russia from her house.
 
2013-06-18 04:26:34 PM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net

/approves
 
2013-06-18 04:28:20 PM  
Well, at least the heat dome isn't hanging over the midwest this year. Last summer was just god-awful.
 
2013-06-18 04:28:42 PM  

generallyso: The core of heat was lodged over south central Alaska where the mercury spiked into the mid-90s Monday, nearly 30 degrees above average and warmer than anywhere east of the Mississippi in the contiguous U.S.

'Mid-90s' and 'Alaska' are not words I expected to see in the same sentence.


The lowest verified temp in Fairbanks is around -60F, the highest verified temp being 99F. That's a spread of almost 160 degrees. (Averages are between -40 and +90.) That's why I didn't move back when I moved back to Alaska. (That and the salmon is just about dog food by the time it gets that far inland.)
 
2013-06-18 04:28:58 PM  
The bad part about the whole climate change debate is this:

The rational people who are capable of critical thought know that weather isn't climate, and correlation isn't causation. They can't point to a record-shattering summer in Alaska and say, "Look, climate change!".

However, the irrational people who are not capable of critical thought can point to ANYTHING to prove that their chosen side is correct, and they do. They're the ones out there shrieking "OMG LOOK CLIMATE CHANGE EVIDENCE" and "OMG HIPPY LIES DRILL BABY DRILL".  If the rational people venture an opinion in this "discussion", their observations and deductions will get lumped in with the panicked guy who took photos of his melted popsicle to prove that it's hotter than last year.

The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet. You'd think people could take a minute to learn what the difference between observed data and opinions are, and to put aside partisanship if the stakes were everyone's survival.  But, apparently not.

Then again, this is how we've always done things.  Go, humanity. :\
 
2013-06-18 04:31:22 PM  

Ed Grubermann: It's been seriously hot for the last three weeks here in Juneau. We got a break due to a thunderstorm last night. But thunderstorms are really rare here. Last year we didn't really have a summer, just a short respite from winter.


I still can't believe I slept through the first thunderstorm in the last eight years or so.
 
2013-06-18 04:32:11 PM  

Speef: The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet.


Our species isn't smart enough to live much longer. Between running out of oil and climate change, it's a race to see which one will kill more of us first.
 
2013-06-18 04:34:39 PM  

Sybarite: It's getting hot in herre, so hot, so take off your anorak
I am, getting so hot, I wanna take my mukluks off


Bulbous bouffant
Blubber
Galoshes
Mukluks
Macadamia
Gazeeeebo!
 
2013-06-18 04:37:23 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


The idea of an apocalyptic event strikes me as hilariously human in nature. Alaskans aren't going to wake up someday to find mangroves and palm trees instead of conifers, just like *that*. Climate change takes a long time to happen. A really long time. It takes so long that the fact that we can even measure it happening right now is evidence (IMO) that it is happening way too goddamn fast. And it's rather ironic that the same species that cannot make plans to deal with such long-term problems would also invent a concept like "apocalypse"- a single, cataclysmic event where everything fails at once. We want to believe in an apocalypse, becuase it is a simple way of framing a complex problem that we don't understand. And the problem was created because we didn't understand the complex consequences of our actions. There's a lesson in there somewhere, I think.

/I'm referring to problems that are caused by humanity
//Problems caused by external forces- such as an asteroid hit- would truly be apocalyptic event.
///Or if Christians are all correct about armageddon
////This is my Force Majeure Clause
 
2013-06-18 04:37:53 PM  

Skyd1v: pheed: I'm in Juneau at the moment. It was hot enough last night that I had to keep my window open...which was nice when the sun came up at 3:30 am!

Willow Alaska, June 17, 2013.

[img10.imageshack.us image 554x413]

(image is hot in more ways than one)


Call the 866 number and ask what the temp is right now.
 
2013-06-18 04:39:29 PM  

Speef: The bad part about the whole climate change debate is this:

The rational people who are capable of critical thought know that weather isn't climate, and correlation isn't causation. They can't point to a record-shattering summer in Alaska and say, "Look, climate change!".

However, the irrational people who are not capable of critical thought can point to ANYTHING to prove that their chosen side is correct, and they do. They're the ones out there shrieking "OMG LOOK CLIMATE CHANGE EVIDENCE" and "OMG HIPPY LIES DRILL BABY DRILL".  If the rational people venture an opinion in this "discussion", their observations and deductions will get lumped in with the panicked guy who took photos of his melted popsicle to prove that it's hotter than last year.

The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet. You'd think people could take a minute to learn what the difference between observed data and opinions are, and to put aside partisanship if the stakes were everyone's survival.  But, apparently not.

Then again, this is how we've always done things.  Go, humanity. :\


Did you miss the post from Occam's Battle Axe above ????

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/globalwarming/ar4-fig-3-6.gif
 
2013-06-18 04:43:45 PM  
Alaska, Canada, and Russia are going to make out like bandits from global warming.  A lot of land quickly becomes useful.  That, or has to deal with extreme temperature shifts each year.
 
2013-06-18 04:45:08 PM  
Great, now Fairbanks will get blanketed by fires again. I'm so tired of this shiat, freeze our asses for an eternity then suck smoke and get probosced to death.

It snowed here... during the third week of May.

Mosquitos spent May in prison, and then came out acting like Robert De Niro in "Cape Fear".
 
2013-06-18 04:49:15 PM  
Palin must be masturbating furiously.
 
2013-06-18 04:49:28 PM  

eas81: Oldiron_79: Clearly Gawd Smiting the Weather Dominator (aka HAARP)

Came in to say that HAARP got discombobulated and reversed itself.

[beforeitsnews.com image 400x237]


Are you sure that's HAARP and not NERV?
 
2013-06-18 04:59:41 PM  
No doubt as the Earth spirals slowly closer toward the Sun we will have more of this!!!
 
2013-06-18 05:22:33 PM  
Remember folks, the Great Dust Bowl was a hoax, and the Nuclear Winter was just a fairy tale to scare you into passivity.

Also, you can't be dumping millions of years of CO2 in to the atmosphere if the earth is only 8-14k years old.
 
2013-06-18 05:37:08 PM  

soosh: Ed Grubermann: It's been seriously hot for the last three weeks here in Juneau. We got a break due to a thunderstorm last night. But thunderstorms are really rare here. Last year we didn't really have a summer, just a short respite from winter.

I still can't believe I slept through the first thunderstorm in the last eight years or so.


Drugs are bad, mmkay?
 
2013-06-18 05:41:50 PM  

TheRealist II: No doubt as the Earth spirals slowly closer toward the Sun we will have more of this!!!


Actually, the earth is slowly moving away from the sun, by about one micometer per year.
 
2013-06-18 05:44:33 PM  
BFD! When it sticks around for 70 or 80 days straight then you can biatch.
 
2013-06-18 05:50:41 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: nekom: Good thing there's no globular warming, or it would be worse right?

*how cute* Especially after the coldest wettest spring in 18 years according to the article.

Sometimes wacky weather is just that.  Why the hell does everyone think that any deviation from the average is evidence of ZOMGECOPALYPSE!!!


Yup it's just that simple.  On one side are people who realize that weather is just weather, and on the other are people literally running in circles and hyperventilating for no reason whatsoever other than that it's unusually warm in Alaska right now.

You really nailed it!
 
2013-06-18 05:52:46 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: Remember folks, the Great Dust Bowl was a hoax, and the Nuclear Winter was just a fairy tale to scare you into passivity.

Also, you can't be dumping millions of years of CO2 in to the atmosphere if the earth is only 8-14k years old.


Hide and watch mfkr! No one tells me what i can and can't do!!!!!!
 
2013-06-18 05:58:28 PM  
I imagine this is what the average Alaskan feels like right about now.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-18 06:02:31 PM  
I am tired of the hot (for Anchorage) weather.  I am looking forward to some much needed rain.  But the hot weather is helping me drink more beer.  So, there is some good in the hot temps.
 
2013-06-18 06:05:17 PM  

Speef: The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet.


Is that more tragic than the fact that it has become important that we could possibly not be killing everyone on the planet?
 
2013-06-18 06:09:54 PM  
img.fark.net

Snow dogs indeed...
 
2013-06-18 06:22:23 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: That'll make your moose sweat


Got it covered.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-18 06:33:49 PM  

Lord Howard Hurtz: Great, now Fairbanks will get blanketed by fires again. I'm so tired of this shiat, freeze our asses for an eternity then suck smoke and get probosced to death.

It snowed here... during the third week of May.

Mosquitos spent May in prison, and then came out acting like Robert De Niro in "Cape Fear".


It's a little surprising just how *not* on fire Fairbanks is right now. Sure it's hot, but until we get some wind, I just don't see the fires taking off. The ground is still too wet.
 
2013-06-18 06:37:37 PM  
Heh, and many of my Fairbanks neighbors laughed when I got air conditioning.
 
2013-06-18 06:42:26 PM  

Myria: Alaska, Canada, and Russia are going to make out like bandits from global warming.  A lot of land quickly becomes useful.  That, or has to deal with extreme temperature shifts each year.


There's only one problem with the theory about land becoming more useful:  most of the land does not.  It's either rock, muskeg or acidic sponge sitting on top of permafrost.  In exchange for such dubious much we'd lose the Australian, American, Chinese and Indian breadbaskets/ricebowls.
 
2013-06-18 06:48:56 PM  

WelldeadLink: Speef: The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet.

Is that more tragic than the fact that it has become important that we could possibly not be killing everyone on the planet?


Well, is IS the sort of thing that your successful planetary civilizations keep a careful eye out for.

We also have one or two thinky guys who have looked at a few data points, and think this might be something that we might want to keep an eye on.
 
2013-06-18 07:11:12 PM  
As an ex-alaskan, I remember back in the 80's when it was over 115 deg in Fairbanks. And then -40 that winter.  central Alaska really sucks.

/all of alaska really sucks.
 
2013-06-18 07:12:41 PM  

Ed Grubermann: soosh: Ed Grubermann: It's been seriously hot for the last three weeks here in Juneau. We got a break due to a thunderstorm last night. But thunderstorms are really rare here. Last year we didn't really have a summer, just a short respite from winter.

I still can't believe I slept through the first thunderstorm in the last eight years or so.

Drugs are bad, mmkay?


drugs are good, but that wasn't the problem.
 
2013-06-18 07:16:32 PM  
But it's still not global warming, right?
 
2013-06-18 08:06:44 PM  
Not at all surprised by this. That ridge of high pressure was one of the sharpest Ive ever seen. It blocked the weather pattern here in Korea for more than a week.
 
2013-06-18 08:32:05 PM  

Speef: The tragedy here is that this "debate" misses the exceptionally important fact that we could possibly be killing everyone on the planet. You'd think people could take a minute to learn what the difference between observed data and opinions are, and to put aside partisanship if the stakes were everyone's survival. But, apparently not.


Lies -- we wont kill off everyone on the planet -- the cities and coastal areas are likely screwed and food prices will go up and up but i hardly think the human race is doomed...

Our way of living maybe but i'm not so convinced that its all that great... The luxuries are nice but they aren't whats important... Survival is about being flexible. Surely empires have fallen in the past due to pestilence and drought -- this will be no different. We will get by.
 
2013-06-18 09:31:38 PM  
The highest ever temperature for Alaska and Hawaii is the same -- 100 degrees.
 
2013-06-18 10:38:06 PM  

Yamaneko2: Myria: Alaska, Canada, and Russia are going to make out like bandits from global warming.  A lot of land quickly becomes useful.  That, or has to deal with extreme temperature shifts each year.

There's only one problem with the theory about land becoming more useful:  most of the land does not.  It's either rock, muskeg or acidic sponge sitting on top of permafrost.  In exchange for such dubious much we'd lose the Australian, American, Chinese and Indian breadbaskets/ricebowls.


Our experience here in western Canada over the last 30 years is that spring is colder and coming later, and fall is warmer and drier.  Which would be ok, except the days of maximum sunshine no longer coordinate with the days of maximal warmth.  That means that our growing seasons aren't actually getting any longer, and may in fact be getting shorter.

Personally, I'm happy it's trending towards wetter- We're already losing a substantive amount of glaciation and thus runoff, so if it gets even drier then we're in for a world of hurt.
 
2013-06-19 03:12:43 AM  

Too_many_Brians: As an ex-alaskan, I remember back in the 80's when it was over 115 deg in Fairbanks. And then -40 that winter.  central Alaska really sucks.

/all of alaska really sucks.


As an ex-Alaskan, your memory sucks. The highest ever temperature recorded anywhere in Alaska (until this week) was 100 deg. The highest recorded temp in Fairbanks was 99 (in 1937). Between 1981 and 2010, the hottest day in Fairbanks was 94 degrees, 21 degrees cooler than your claim.

Unless you happen to have better temperature measurements than NOAA . . .

http://www.nws. noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=pafg
 
2013-06-19 05:52:43 AM  

MrSteve007: Too_many_Brians: As an ex-alaskan, I remember back in the 80's when it was over 115 deg in Fairbanks. And then -40 that winter.  central Alaska really sucks.

/all of alaska really sucks.

As an ex-Alaskan, your memory sucks. The highest ever temperature recorded anywhere in Alaska (until this week) was 100 deg. The highest recorded temp in Fairbanks was 99 (in 1937). Between 1981 and 2010, the hottest day in Fairbanks was 94 degrees, 21 degrees cooler than your claim.

Unless you happen to have better temperature measurements than NOAA . . .

http://www.nws. noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=pafg


90% of "facts" are made up on the spot.

80% of people already know this.
 
2013-06-19 08:32:18 AM  
nmemkha:

90% of "facts" are made up on the spot.

80% of people already know this.


I'd put those numbers at 95% and 5%.  For the vast majority of people, "fact" is "whatever they happen to think at the moment", even if that changes moment to moment.  They also tend to view these momentary opinions as immutable universal truths.  The odd part is that (in my observations, anyway), the people with this "magical" type of logic are the ones who DO see matters in black and white... either statement A is a dirty, rotten lie, or it is pure, sweet truth. The category that statement A belongs to might change several times in an afternoon, for little to no reason, but it will always be True or False at any given time.

The vast majority of the people I know engage in this type of thinking.  If you talk to them about it, either they don't understand what the problem with their "logic" is, or they are angered that they have found someone who disagrees with them as to the validity of statement A (even if you refuse to tell them your position, or tell them that your position is that statement A contains correct, incorrect, and disputed elements).

Honestly, since the vast majority works this way, and word definitions are driven by common usage, "fact" means "whatever you heard on TV most recently".  It's only a matter of time until the dictionary publishers update their books.
 
2013-06-19 08:35:12 AM  
In unrelated news, Todd Snider has a funny song on this topic, and it is called Statistician's Blues .
 
2013-06-19 10:58:54 AM  

MrSteve007: Too_many_Brians: As an ex-alaskan, I remember back in the 80's when it was over 115 deg in Fairbanks. And then -40 that winter.  central Alaska really sucks.

/all of alaska really sucks.

As an ex-Alaskan, your memory sucks. The highest ever temperature recorded anywhere in Alaska (until this week) was 100 deg. The highest recorded temp in Fairbanks was 99 (in 1937). Between 1981 and 2010, the hottest day in Fairbanks was 94 degrees, 21 degrees cooler than your claim.

Unless you happen to have better temperature measurements than NOAA . . .

http://www.nws. noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=pafg


Well, that does suck.  I remember being at the mini-golf lot just outside of Fairbanks at some amusement place, it had old cars and "frontier" stuff.  When I was a kid we used to drive up from Anchorage every couple of years to camp in Chena (sp?) Hot springs and sometimes visit this place.  Anyway, the thermometer that was hanging in a shaded section of the manager's hut read 115 and they had a sign that said they close it down at this temp- then they closed it down. I guess I never really connected the sun hitting it. Derp.


/alaska still sucks. :)
 
2013-06-19 03:53:38 PM  

Speef: nmemkha:

90% of "facts" are made up on the spot.

80% of people already know this.

I'd put those numbers at 95% and 5%.



Whooosh!
 
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