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2013-06-18 02:59:14 PM  
Still no cure for bad games
 
2013-06-18 03:01:36 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Still no cure for bad games


I hope you're not implying Portal 2 was a bad game

/dnrtfa
 
2013-06-18 03:01:46 PM  
In other Rift news, Oculus secures $16 million in additional funding.
 
2013-06-18 03:06:57 PM  
Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.
 
2013-06-18 03:08:05 PM  
I feel like I'd have a hard time not vomiting.  Instead of Doritos and Mountain Dew, my gamer food would be Dramamine and Chamomile Tea
 
2013-06-18 03:09:20 PM  
I'm not sure how one would even *do* full VR. Suspend them in water using wireless devices, allowing them full access to every direction? A sort of 360 degree "round treadmill" that will simulate walking or running in any direction? Or are we just going to go the whole 9 yards and attempt to have someone control the character via mind control device, not requiring them to move a muscle on their physical body at all?

In any case, while this is cool, the article puts the worst part into play: you're still using a joystick to move, kind of hindering and watering down the experience. It might just be cheaper to get a beefy GPU and line your entire room with computer monitors, or stand directly in front of a reaaaaaally large one.
 
2013-06-18 03:09:30 PM  
I would be willing to spend the money on this and the treadmill thing from yesterday and I'm not into FPSs. I would play the shiat out of Gears of Duty or whatever if it the setup was that much fun.

What's the focus going to be like on the Rift? I would only be able to use if it tricked my eye into thinking it was 5 feet away or so
 
2013-06-18 03:10:58 PM  

Bubblegum Tate: I feel like I'd have a hard time not vomiting.  Instead of Doritos and Mountain Dew, my gamer food would be Dramamine and Chamomile Tea


So you'd be eating healthier?
 
2013-06-18 03:11:54 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Or are we just going to go the whole 9 yards and attempt to have someone control the character via mind control device, not requiring them to move a muscle on their physical body at all?


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2013-06-18 03:11:55 PM  
Portal 2 is, to me, the best video game of all time... OF ALL TIME.
#2 is Red Dead Redemption.

I would love to try either of these games with this thing on
 
2013-06-18 03:12:19 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I'm not sure how one would even *do* full VR. Suspend them in water using wireless devices, allowing them full access to every direction? A sort of 360 degree "round treadmill" that will simulate walking or running in any direction? Or are we just going to go the whole 9 yards and attempt to have someone control the character via mind control device, not requiring them to move a muscle on their physical body at all?

In any case, while this is cool, the article puts the worst part into play: you're still using a joystick to move, kind of hindering and watering down the experience. It might just be cheaper to get a beefy GPU and line your entire room with computer monitors, or stand directly in front of a reaaaaaally large one.


Did you not see the treadmill thingy from yesterday? It looked like a whole lot of fun. It had a harness and special shoes, so essentially the 360 treadmill idea. It tracked basic body motions, allowed a little bit of crouching, 360 turning, and potentially running and hopping. I would be ok with it.
 
2013-06-18 03:13:25 PM  

Russ1642: Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.


Well, that robot that talks to you CAN be pretty mean.
 
2013-06-18 03:14:32 PM  

buntz: Portal 2 is, to me, the best video game of all time... OF ALL TIME.
#2 is Red Dead Redemption.

I would love to try either of these games with this thing on


Remember, science isn't about why.  Its about why not!
Also, the little nods to the Half Life universe semi-hidden throughout the game were very cool.
 
2013-06-18 03:17:28 PM  
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I'd rather spend $300 on this than $500 on a next gen console.
 
2013-06-18 03:18:10 PM  
What if you wear glasses?
 
2013-06-18 03:18:19 PM  
God this looks cool.  I wish I didn't get motion sickness from some games, because this would be awesome to try out.

Oddly the Portal series didn't do it too badly, but I still got sick to my stomach and a small headache sometimes and had to go lay down.

The old Wolfenstein 3D did it to me the worst.  Fallout 3's sewers did it too until I turned down the mouse sensitivity a bit.
 
2013-06-18 03:19:10 PM  

AntonChigger: Also, the little nods to the Half Life universe semi-hidden throughout the game were very cool.


Well, they're not exaclty nods-I think it IS set in the Half Life 2 Universe.
 
2013-06-18 03:19:17 PM  

Bubblegum Tate: I feel like I'd have a hard time not vomiting.  Instead of Doritos and Mountain Dew, my gamer food would be Dramamine and Chamomile Tea


I tend to get carsick when I'm a passenger, but never when I'm driving.  For me, it's similar to the Rift experience.  As long as the game I'm playing is optimized for the device and I am always driving (the game never takes control of the view away from me), I can play for hours without discomfort.  In TF2 I'm running around quite fast, constantly turning, and have yet to feel discomfort.

So, while everyone does react differently to VR, most people are just fine when the game itself is designed for the Rift, and the computer running it can keep at a smooth 60+ FPS.  On the forums there are folks who report getting motion sick very easy in real life, but have no problems with the Rift.

jonny_q: What's the focus going to be like on the Rift? I would only be able to use if it tricked my eye into thinking it was 5 feet away or so


I'm not sure what you mean by focus.  You're viewing the screen through eyecups, lenses that correct the distortion applied to the game.  This gives the wide field of view that seems to wrap around your vision.  If you are far sighted then you have no problems in the device, if you are slightly near sighted then you have some eye-cup options to correct for that.  If you are extremely near sighted then you need to wear contacts when using the device, or glasses (though that reduces your field of view since you have to bring the lenses far from your eyes to accommodate the glasses).

Apologies if that wasn't what you meant.
 
2013-06-18 03:19:20 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I'm not sure how one would even *do* full VR. Suspend them in water using wireless devices, allowing them full access to every direction? A sort of 360 degree "round treadmill" that will simulate walking or running in any direction? Or are we just going to go the whole 9 yards and attempt to have someone control the character via mind control device, not requiring them to move a muscle on their physical body at all?

In any case, while this is cool, the article puts the worst part into play: you're still using a joystick to move, kind of hindering and watering down the experience. It might just be cheaper to get a beefy GPU and line your entire room with computer monitors, or stand directly in front of a reaaaaaally large one.


Inertial navigation type platform that detects small changes in balance to indicator what direction you want to move in (think segway but that doesn't actually move). The larger the change from default the faster you go. Kinect like device to capture larger movements like punches kicks etc and a full body suit with basic vibration to simulate feedback. Seems like it doable with today's technology would probably cost around $5-6k though not counting the oculus rift and computer to run it.
 
2013-06-18 03:20:36 PM  

Felgraf: AntonChigger: Also, the little nods to the Half Life universe semi-hidden throughout the game were very cool.

Well, they're not exaclty nods-I think it IS set in the Half Life 2 Universe.


Fair enough, I mean to say nods to events previously only mentioned in the Half Life series.
 
2013-06-18 03:21:00 PM  

Felgraf: AntonChigger: Also, the little nods to the Half Life universe semi-hidden throughout the game were very cool.

Well, they're not exaclty nods-I think it IS set in the Half Life 2 Universe.


Red Dead Redemption is set in the HL2 universe?
 
2013-06-18 03:21:59 PM  

jonny_q: Did you not see the treadmill thingy from yesterday? It looked like a whole lot of fun. It had a harness and special shoes, so essentially the 360 treadmill idea. It tracked basic body motions, allowed a little bit of crouching, 360 turning, and potentially running and hopping. I would be ok with it.


Must've missed it! But, that sounds like a decent thing. Got a linky? :)
 
2013-06-18 03:23:28 PM  

Beerguy: What if you wear glasses?


They fit, although tightly. ...as is mentioned in the article.
 
2013-06-18 03:23:30 PM  

LesserEvil: Red Dead Redemption is set in the HL2 universe?


I suppose technically it COULD be
 
2013-06-18 03:25:20 PM  

Russ1642: Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.


Cave Johnson is not boring!
 
2013-06-18 03:25:46 PM  

Beerguy: What if you wear glasses?


I wear both glasses and contacts and while I prefer my contacts when using the Rift, glasses do work.  The downside of glasses is that you have to lose field of view since the eyecups have to be farther away from your eyeballs to make room for your frames, and the housing right now makes a tight fit for my particular glasses.

I'd say it's definitely still worth it for glasses-only wearing people, but I would highly suggest contacts or looking into the inevitable "prescription eyecups" that I'm sure someone will come up with down the road.
 
2013-06-18 03:27:51 PM  

Beerguy: What if you wear glasses?


Know how I know that you didn't RTFA?

I'd love to play the Portal games on an O.R. I'd also think that Dear Esther would be a really awesome experience with one (particularly after toking). Amnesia would be amazing, but sadly Thomas Grip has stated that it'd be too much work for them to try to add support to The Dark Descent. No confirmation or otherwise about whether A Machine For Pigs will support it though.
 
2013-06-18 03:28:17 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Russ1642: Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.

Cave Johnson is not boring!


Just ask the lemons.
 
2013-06-18 03:28:45 PM  
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2013-06-18 03:29:46 PM  

RoxtarRyan: jonny_q: Did you not see the treadmill thingy from yesterday? It looked like a whole lot of fun. It had a harness and special shoes, so essentially the 360 treadmill idea. It tracked basic body motions, allowed a little bit of crouching, 360 turning, and potentially running and hopping. I would be ok with it.

Must've missed it! But, that sounds like a decent thing. Got a linky? :)


Virtuix Omni treadmill, the cheaper tiers are all sold out but if you are interested, you can potentially get lucky and sneak in if someone pulls out.  The nice thing about this particular device is that reportedly wear actually increases its effectiveness, so you won't necessarily find yourself wanting a new model down the road.

The WizDish is an alternative that just launched today but I am a bit more skeptical of the device.  While cheaper than the Omni, it seems like it would be quite unsafe and lacks the mostly natural gait of the treadmill.  You're not walking, you're sliding and shuffling.  Still it seems like a good, cheaper option.
 
2013-06-18 03:29:51 PM  

Russ1642: Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.


I had a nun in sixth grade tell me that the after-life for good people was like being in church for all eternity.

I was very depressed for a long time after that.
 
2013-06-18 03:31:01 PM  

Beerguy: What if you wear glasses?


Didn't finish reading, did ya?
 
2013-06-18 03:36:29 PM  
What Is With All The Capitalized Headlines Today?
 
2013-06-18 03:36:44 PM  

AntonChigger: I hope you're not implying Portal 2 was a bad game


Not terrible, but like most modern games, hardly explores its concepts, concepts (puzzle-platforming in an FPS game) that were once a small subset of what was required to play games like Doom, Descent, and Half-Life.  It's not great or good by any stretch, nor is the first game.
 
2013-06-18 03:38:43 PM  
Can it be used for viewing porn?!?!
 
2013-06-18 03:41:56 PM  

Russ1642: Religious experience? So boring then, just sitting there listening to some dickhead talk about how bad a person you are.


The Oculus Rift uses gaming technology that is so powerful it directly causes temporal lobe epilepsy.
 
2013-06-18 03:42:59 PM  

ferretman: Can it be used for viewing porn?!?!


Soon ferret. Soon.
 
2013-06-18 03:43:44 PM  
I can't wait to use this on Kickman and Burger Time.
 
2013-06-18 03:46:47 PM  

meat0918: God this looks cool.  I wish I didn't get motion sickness from some games, because this would be awesome to try out.

Oddly the Portal series didn't do it too badly, but I still got sick to my stomach and a small headache sometimes and had to go lay down.

The old Wolfenstein 3D did it to me the worst.  Fallout 3's sewers did it too until I turned down the mouse sensitivity a bit.


One day, 1000 years from now, all of the people on Earth will get motion sickness from games. Because they will be the ones out in the world reproducing while the rest of us die arguing with our 3D Virtual-Reality Elder Scrolls VI wives.
 
2013-06-18 03:49:21 PM  

buntz: Portal 2 is, to me, the best video game of all time... OF ALL TIME.


According to Metacritic, it's in a two way tie for the second best PC game of all time.  #1 is a five way tie.  Of those seven games, four were made by Valve.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc?view=c on densed&sort=desc
 
2013-06-18 03:53:51 PM  

Solstafir: meat0918: God this looks cool.  I wish I didn't get motion sickness from some games, because this would be awesome to try out.

Oddly the Portal series didn't do it too badly, but I still got sick to my stomach and a small headache sometimes and had to go lay down.

The old Wolfenstein 3D did it to me the worst.  Fallout 3's sewers did it too until I turned down the mouse sensitivity a bit.

One day, 1000 years from now, all of the people on Earth will get motion sickness from games. Because they will be the ones out in the world reproducing while the rest of us die arguing with our 3D Virtual-Reality Elder Scrolls VI wives.


We wouldn't be arguing if that biatch Ysolda didn't throw out all my brooms and cheese wheels.
 
2013-06-18 03:57:13 PM  

Geotpf: buntz: Portal 2 is, to me, the best video game of all time... OF ALL TIME.

According to Metacritic, it's in a two way tie for the second best PC game of all time.  #1 is a five way tie.  Of those seven games, four were made by Valve.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc?view=c on densed&sort=desc


Couldn't you technically consider it a 4 way tie since The Orange Box was a bundle including HL2? That list basically has HL2 twice if you look at it that way.
 
2013-06-18 04:01:03 PM  

Cytokine Storm: Solstafir: meat0918: God this looks cool.  I wish I didn't get motion sickness from some games, because this would be awesome to try out.

Oddly the Portal series didn't do it too badly, but I still got sick to my stomach and a small headache sometimes and had to go lay down.

The old Wolfenstein 3D did it to me the worst.  Fallout 3's sewers did it too until I turned down the mouse sensitivity a bit.

One day, 1000 years from now, all of the people on Earth will get motion sickness from games. Because they will be the ones out in the world reproducing while the rest of us die arguing with our 3D Virtual-Reality Elder Scrolls VI wives.

We wouldn't be arguing if that biatch Ysolda didn't throw out all my brooms and cheese wheels.


And if you go by user reviews, Baldur's Gate 2 stands alone, which I love.  (I ignored Orange Box because it was several games, though it probably was the greatest deal in gaming history)
 
2013-06-18 04:04:11 PM  

LesserEvil: [img2u.info image 619x384]

I'd rather spend $300 on this than $500 on a next gen console.


This this this this this this!!!
 
2013-06-18 04:14:32 PM  

Cytokine Storm: The WizDish is an alternative that just launched today but I am a bit more skeptical of the device.


The Omni looks great, but that one a) doesn't look like using it models actually walking at all well and b) is going to be subjected to class action lawsuits after half the people who buy one break their necks.
 
2013-06-18 04:15:28 PM  
I enjoyed both Portal games, but Portal 2 is EXTREMELY overrated.  I think it's just being bolstered by the same "TEH CAKE IS A LIE LOLOLOL!!!" morons that ran every line from the first game into the ground.  Don't get me wrong, it is a good game, but I don't even know if I'd put it in the top 10 games of the last decade.
 
2013-06-18 04:20:46 PM  

Mike_LowELL: AntonChigger: I hope you're not implying Portal 2 was a bad game

Not terrible, but like most modern games, hardly explores its concepts, concepts (puzzle-platforming in an FPS game) that were once a small subset of what was required to play games like Doom, Descent, and Half-Life.  It's not great or good by any stretch, nor is the first game.


Nice troll.
 
2013-06-18 04:23:19 PM  

Beerguy: What if you wear glasses?


You mean like the individual who wrote the review? I would suggest reading the review and finding out.

Dumbass.
 
2013-06-18 04:23:39 PM  

Perlin Noise: LesserEvil: [img2u.info image 619x384]

I'd rather spend $300 on this than $500 on a next gen console.

This this this this this this!!!


The only problem is you need to spend $300 on this and then $500-1000 on a computer to run it. Hopefully they'll make it so it works with PS4/xbone
 
2013-06-18 04:24:36 PM  

Night Night Cream Puff: Geotpf: buntz: Portal 2 is, to me, the best video game of all time... OF ALL TIME.

According to Metacritic, it's in a two way tie for the second best PC game of all time.  #1 is a five way tie.  Of those seven games, four were made by Valve.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc?view=c on densed&sort=desc

Couldn't you technically consider it a 4 way tie since The Orange Box was a bundle including HL2? That list basically has HL2 twice if you look at it that way.


The Orange Box included Half Life 2 (and Half Life 2: Episode 1), but it was released three years after HL2 was originally released (and one year after HL2:E1).  That would be like saying the original Bioshock doesn't count because Bioshock: Infinite included it in some bundles.  Reviewers were (mainly) reviewing the new content in The Orange Box: Portal 1, Team Fortress 2, and Half Life 2: Episode 2.
 
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