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(ABC)   So you never go full retard, unless you're an Italian court and you can spend another 5 years discussing an erotic sex game, then you go full retard   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 101
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2013-06-18 01:14:44 PM
Because basing your prosecution on the ramblings of a "psychic" makes everyone trust your legal system....
 
2013-06-18 01:38:25 PM
Rape and murder are not a sex game and a perverse prosecutor who targets young woman to make them out to be sexual predators ought to be disbarred.
 
2013-06-18 02:51:56 PM
This is the same country that prosecuted scientists for failing to predict an earthquake.

Nice country, but the legal system is a bit... quirky.
 
2013-06-18 03:03:52 PM

Marcus Aurelius: This is the same country that prosecuted scientists for failing to predict an earthquake.

Nice country, but the legal system is a bit... quirky.


I remember when I in-processed at Vicenza, the JAG briefing was:

'Do not, under any circumstances, do anything that could cause you to get arrested, because we really can't help you at all once that happens'
 
2013-06-18 03:03:54 PM
I came for the bunga bunga! 

/Double entendre
 
2013-06-18 03:04:41 PM
Nice work, if you can get it.
 
2013-06-18 03:04:58 PM
Italian court? What better place to court Italians?

www.basilrathbone.net

/Get it?
//Got it.
///Good.
 
2013-06-18 03:05:28 PM
I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy
 
2013-06-18 03:06:09 PM
Keep your nose clean when visiting Italy.  Don't act in ANY way that makes people suspicious.
 
2013-06-18 03:07:42 PM
I hope they convict her. I want to see their reaction after being told to fark themselves on extradition.
 
2013-06-18 03:11:12 PM
"Sex Game Gone Wrong" is the new name for my band.
 
2013-06-18 03:14:37 PM
Nobody expects the Italian prosecution!
 
2013-06-18 03:14:50 PM
DRFTA but I have a question.  If she was acquitted in the first trial, why the hell did she go back for another one?  Wouldn't the Italians have had extradite her or something?
 
2013-06-18 03:16:11 PM

jim32rr: I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy


You would think we'd be offended, but we aren't Reddit.
 
2013-06-18 03:16:13 PM

ginandbacon: Rape and murder are not a sex game and a perverse prosecutor who targets young woman to make them out to be sexual predators ought to be disbarred.


They have a very disturbing attitude towards young women there.
 
2013-06-18 03:16:15 PM

bikerbob59: DRFTA but I have a question.  If she was acquitted in the first trial, why the hell did she go back for another one?  Wouldn't the Italians have had extradite her or something?


she didn't. they will hold a further trial for her without her present. if she is convicted, the appeals process starts again. only if the appeal fails would the italians have to extradite her, which the US will never honor in this circumstance
 
2013-06-18 03:16:18 PM
What happened to it being called "A drug-fueled sex game gone wrong?"  When did they rule out the drug-fueled part?
 
2013-06-18 03:17:01 PM

bikerbob59: Wouldn't the Italians have had extradite her or something?


They can try her in absentia. That's why most of us stateside are just making a *jerk off* motion to them right now.
 
2013-06-18 03:17:23 PM

FrancoFile: Nobody expects the Italian prosecution!


The prosciutto is pretty good though.
 
2013-06-18 03:17:50 PM
What's up with the "Sex Game Gone Wrong"?  Is this fairly common in Italy?  Are you enjoying your gelato at one of Rome's finest tourist traps and then BAM - you're wearing nothing but a horse mask and being whipped by a German circus handler named Dieter Schlong.
 
Ant
2013-06-18 03:18:03 PM

bikerbob59: DRFTA but I have a question.  If she was acquitted in the first trial, why the hell did she go back for another one?  Wouldn't the Italians have had extradite her or something?


She didn't go back, and has no intention of going back. They're having another trial without her. I don't think her Italian ex-boyfriend will be there either.
 
2013-06-18 03:20:00 PM

tlchwi02: which the US will never honor in this circumstance


I bet they will.  If we want them to cooperate with us, we have to cooperate with them.  I bet the extradition traffic is a lot heavier in the US bound lane than it is in the Italy bound lane.  We have a lot more to lose if they decide to stop the flow.
 
2013-06-18 03:21:53 PM
Italy, you are the world's sweaty, track suit wearing strip club patron with his hands down his pants being escorted out by the bouncer.
 
2013-06-18 03:22:33 PM

The Muthaship: tlchwi02: which the US will never honor in this circumstance

I bet they will.  If we want them to cooperate with us, we have to cooperate with them.  I bet the extradition traffic is a lot heavier in the US bound lane than it is in the Italy bound lane.  We have a lot more to lose if they decide to stop the flow.


Except this would be double jeopardy and goes against our legal system here.
 
2013-06-18 03:23:01 PM

Rapmaster2000: What's up with the "Sex Game Gone Wrong"?  Is this fairly common in Italy?  Are you enjoying your gelato at one of Rome's finest tourist traps and then BAM - you're wearing nothing but a horse mask and being whipped by a German circus handler named Dieter Schlong.


Dieter not such a bad guy. Just traumatised by his accident at the wiener factory.
 
2013-06-18 03:23:02 PM

Rapmaster2000: What's up with the "Sex Game Gone Wrong"?  Is this fairly common in Italy?  Are you enjoying your gelato at one of Rome's finest tourist traps and then BAM - you're wearing nothing but a horse mask and being whipped by a German circus handler named Dieter Schlong.


Do you work for the ministry of tourism?
 
Ant
2013-06-18 03:23:36 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Keep your nose clean when visiting Italy.  Don't act in ANY way that makes people suspicious.


Don't room with potential murder victims, especially if you are an attractive, young, American female.
 
2013-06-18 03:25:19 PM

TheGogmagog: jim32rr: I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy

You would think we'd be offended, but we aren't Reddit.


Never been on Reddit, seems Fark is getting pretty PC though
 
2013-06-18 03:25:23 PM
I would like to play some games with her.
 
2013-06-18 03:25:57 PM
These Italians are lunatics. This 'sex game' theory is their own oversexed imagination at work. And I'm in Italy.
 
2013-06-18 03:26:16 PM
Did she release her "If I Did It" porno yet?
 
2013-06-18 03:26:56 PM

jim32rr: I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy


My sister-in-law is some kind of highly trained tard wrangler, some kind of master's in psych, tries to work them up to a 7yo's vocabulary from a 3yo's vocabulary even though they're 30yo, etc. I can joke about getting rid of all the Mexicans in this country (she's Cuban) and she'll think it's funny.

But if I use the R word she looks at me like she'll kill me and it's hard to hang around with my brother without an R word joke slipping in somewhere.
 
2013-06-18 03:27:42 PM

The Muthaship: I bet they will. If we want them to cooperate with us, we have to cooperate with them. I bet the extradition traffic is a lot heavier in the US bound lane than it is in the Italy bound lane. We have a lot more to lose if they decide to stop the flow.


doubt it, the US is generally loathe to turn over its citizens based on something this flimsy. Her parents have also spent a lot of time, energy and money lobbying their representative and generally making a strong case to the media that she got railroaded. her italian boyfriend would be pretty doomed though.
 
2013-06-18 03:27:47 PM

thatboyoverthere: Except this would be double jeopardy and goes against our legal system here.


Extradition treaties are about respecting the other country's rule of law.

/unless the death penalty is in play, apparently
 
2013-06-18 03:28:26 PM

Rapmaster2000: What's up with the "Sex Game Gone Wrong"?  Is this fairly common in Italy?


Only at The Vatican.
 
2013-06-18 03:28:55 PM

Ant: JohnAnnArbor: Keep your nose clean when visiting Italy.  Don't act in ANY way that makes people suspicious.

Don't room with potential murder victims, especially if you are an attractive, young, American female.


I bet if Amanda had been clean-cut and not "easy" she'd never have even been looked at, much less charged, with the crime.

Not saying she deserved to be charged, just that being stupid in foreign countries can have very bad consequences.  So don't be.
 
2013-06-18 03:29:42 PM

The Muthaship: If we want them to cooperate with us, we have to cooperate with them.


The Knox case is nothing compared to this if we really want to go down the road of official US - Italy relations, and that's another case the Italians punted all the way to F*ck and back before doing something.

I'm convinced the State Department just looks at Italy as a bunch of annoying morons.
 
2013-06-18 03:29:44 PM

pag1107: What happened to it being called "A drug-fueled sex game gone wrong?"  When did they rule out the drug-fueled part?


The prosecutor is known alleging absolutely crazy theories, with no evidence to support it. As in, he threw ought "they were performing Satanic rituals" in this trial, based on nothing. And this was not the first high profile murder trial in which he's made that argument. Italian justice seems crazy to anyone used to the common law system.
 
2013-06-18 03:30:19 PM

Killer Cars: bikerbob59: Wouldn't the Italians have had extradite her or something?

They can try her in absentia. That's why most of us stateside are just making a *jerk off* motion to them right now.


i.telegraph.co.uk

Also, Italians love it when you tell them "win a war first, then we can talk."
 
2013-06-18 03:30:20 PM
The thing to understand about the Italian legal system is that it's meant to be a source of entertainment - a circus - rather than a legal system as is usually understood. Think of it as the judicial equivalent of a tabloid and it becomes clear why a prosecutor who sees devil-worshiping orgies all around him and is censured for misconduct is allowed to continue pursing cases.
 
2013-06-18 03:30:33 PM

Killer Cars: I'm convinced the State Department just looks at Italy as a bunch of annoying morons.


And they're right.  But, damn the US has a lot of Italian based crime!
 
2013-06-18 03:35:55 PM
She's a very kinky girl, the kind you dont take home to mother......
 
2013-06-18 03:36:15 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: "Sex Game Gone Wrong" is the new name for my band.


Sounds more like an album title or a song by the Tiger Lillies. Base it off The Merry Go Round Broke Down" and raunch it up.
 
2013-06-18 03:36:25 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: "Sex Game Gone Wrong" is the new name for my band.


It's the name of my Men Without Hats cover band.

\Re-releasing "Safety Dance" as "Safety Word"
 
2013-06-18 03:37:36 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: AngryJailhouseFistfark: "Sex Game Gone Wrong" is the new name for my band.

It's the name of my Men Without Hats cover band.

\Re-releasing "Safety Dance" as "Safety Word"


Then release their follow up "hit" Pop Goes the Girl.
 
2013-06-18 03:38:15 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: AngryJailhouseFistfark: "Sex Game Gone Wrong" is the new name for my band.

It's the name of my Men Without Hats cover band.

\Re-releasing "Safety Dance" as "Safety Word"


Ah, you can quit if you want to.
you can leave the whips behind
Cuz these whips don't hurt
and if they don't hurt
then their no whips of mine
 
2013-06-18 03:40:51 PM

FARK rebel soldier: jim32rr: I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy

My sister-in-law is some kind of highly trained tard wrangler, some kind of master's in psych, tries to work them up to a 7yo's vocabulary from a 3yo's vocabulary even though they're 30yo, etc. I can joke about getting rid of all the Mexicans in this country (she's Cuban) and she'll think it's funny.

But if I use the R word she looks at me like she'll kill me and it's hard to hang around with my brother without an R word joke slipping in somewhere.


The euphemism treadmill is a real biatch.

Retard is a pretty apt description for someone who has retarded mental growth and diminished mental capacity as a result.  The only reason it's considered rude is because it was used a pejorative.  The problem is that now we use 'special' as a pejorative as well.  Basically humans are dicks and will use the descriptive names of people different from them as an insult. No matter what you decide to call someone eventually somebody will use it as an insult and you'll need to find a new word.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-18 03:41:14 PM
don't extradite her on the theory that the Legal Justice system in Italy should be abandoned "due to the multiple shortcomings, contradictory events and manifest lack of logical reasoning."
 
2013-06-18 03:41:15 PM
If I did, and I'm not saying I would, but if I did would I have subpena power?!

Cause I'd got a few people I'd like to hear testimony of:

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2013-06-18 03:41:27 PM

FARK rebel soldier: jim32rr: I'm surprised that 'retard' is still being used on Fark .... surprised but happy

My sister-in-law is some kind of highly trained tard wrangler, some kind of master's in psych, tries to work them up to a 7yo's vocabulary from a 3yo's vocabulary even though they're 30yo, etc. I can joke about getting rid of all the Mexicans in this country (she's Cuban) and she'll think it's funny.

But if I use the R word she looks at me like she'll kill me and it's hard to hang around with my brother without an R word joke slipping in somewhere.


<giggling like a moron>  I'm in the process of letting people choose their own job titles at my library - for example, "Fun Coordinator" instead of"Library Assistant III" or "Children's Programming Specialist" or some such.  I almost wish my Volunteer Coordinator only worked with the mentally handicapped folks who do our shredding and so on, so I could offer her "Tard Wrangler".
 
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