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(Real Clear World)   Characters from The Game Of Thrones....labelled for today's political scientist. Yes, Daenerys is a NeoCon. A sexy, sexy NeoCon   (realclearworld.com) divider line 122
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2013-06-18 12:10:46 PM
I suppose this is something I would have to own a television to understand.
 
2013-06-18 12:10:57 PM
She is? She tries to protect the Meereen from the landed powerbase, and is always looking out for the downtrodden. "Neocon" is not something I'd remotely associate with Daenerys Targareyn.
 
2013-06-18 12:11:40 PM
"Real Clear" anything is farking garbage.
 
2013-06-18 12:11:59 PM
The Lannister section immediately turned into "Fartbama Foreign Policy failure WAHRARWETGHAREGRKEJWE"
 
2013-06-18 12:12:23 PM
Stop. Game of Thrones is not a master's course on political warfare. It's a Politics 202 course's three day lecture on power systems.
 
2013-06-18 12:12:46 PM

theorellior: She is? She tries to protect the Meereen from the landed powerbase, and is always looking out for the downtrodden. "Neocon" is not something I'd remotely associate with Daenerys Targareyn.


Her answer to every problem is "fark you, I got dragons"

Sounds like Neocons to me
 
2013-06-18 12:12:57 PM
Yeah, the factions in Game of Thrones don't map well to the modern political spectrum.
 
2013-06-18 12:13:53 PM

Klivian: Her answer to every problem is "fark you, I got dragons"

Sounds like Neocons to me


Except those really are WMDs.
 
2013-06-18 12:14:08 PM

Voiceofreason01: Yeah, the factions in Game of Thrones don't map well to the modern political spectrum.


What do you mean? They all seem pro-rape to me, therefore their all Republicans.
 
2013-06-18 12:14:42 PM
Well I stopped reading after this:  However, Obama is often a bad realist, more Joffrey than Tywin. On the margins, the U.S. gained nothing by irritating Israel and cozying up to Russia, which had supported three UN sanctions resolutions under President Bush. It got less from Assad. The mullahs, now democracy-free, continue to enrich uranium. And it is the rare president who can have worse relations with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan simultaneously than his predecessor. Unfortunately for the U.S., Cersei, not Tywin, is at the helm.

So I'm guessing the whole thing is just going to be derpy derp derp in the rest of the "article."
 
2013-06-18 12:14:49 PM
Someone has too much time on their hands. This is about as sensical and trying to map Equestria's political landscape onto the real world.
 
2013-06-18 12:15:32 PM
This is Obama's Battle of Blackwater.
 
2013-06-18 12:16:24 PM
Leave it to Real Clear Politics World to make Game Of Thrones boring.
 
2013-06-18 12:16:49 PM
Because the premise in TFA is complete bollocks, I propose we turn this into a Daenarys thread.

www.locomag.com


pic is borrowed
 
2013-06-18 12:16:54 PM
What fresh hell did I just read?
 
2013-06-18 12:17:17 PM
This is bullshiat. The Dragon Mother is pro Israel?
 
2013-06-18 12:17:39 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I suppose this is something I would have to own a television to understand.


Or a library card.
 
2013-06-18 12:18:51 PM
Dany = Rubio
Joffrey/Cersei = Obama
Robb Stark = Rand Paul
Tyrion = Boehner
Stannis = Hillary
Greyjoys = Iran
Jamie = McCain

WTF??
 
2013-06-18 12:19:47 PM
Gist of article
"We hate Obama, and if you like Game of Thrones, you should too."
 
2013-06-18 12:20:11 PM

The Downfall: So I'm guessing the whole thing is just going to be derpy derp derp in the rest of the "article."


Yeah, someone is jumping through hoops to make the "good" characters line up with their own politics.

Besides, Obama is more like the Starks - he trusts clearly awful people to make trustworthy deals with him and then asks surprised when they confirm their awfulness.
 
2013-06-18 12:20:22 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Because the premise in TFA is complete bollocks, I propose we turn this into a Daenarys thread.

[www.locomag.com image 850x474]


pic is borrowed


Agreed!

Except mine is NSFW
 
2013-06-18 12:21:06 PM

The Downfall: Well I stopped reading after this:  However, Obama is often a bad realist, more Joffrey than Tywin. On the margins, the U.S. gained nothing by irritating Israel and cozying up to Russia, which had supported three UN sanctions resolutions under President Bush. It got less from Assad. The mullahs, now democracy-free, continue to enrich uranium. And it is the rare president who can have worse relations with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan simultaneously than his predecessor. Unfortunately for the U.S., Cersei, not Tywin, is at the helm.

So I'm guessing the whole thing is just going to be derpy derp derp in the rest of the "article."


The writer later goes on to compare Stannis to Hill-dog and Jaime to McCain
 
2013-06-18 12:21:57 PM
Real Clear

You know nothing of my works.

Sincerely
G.R.R. Martin
 
2013-06-18 12:22:11 PM

kitsuneymg: Someone has too much time on their hands. This is about as sensical and trying to map Equestria's political landscape onto the real world.


Is that considering the website layout? Seven pages for that bullshait? I'd rather read seven pages about boiled leather.
 
2013-06-18 12:22:55 PM
It's a fantasy series involving dragons and magic. Stop trying to make it relevant to politics and enjoy it.
 
2013-06-18 12:22:56 PM
I agree with the article that Hodor is analogous to Dubya.
 
2013-06-18 12:23:41 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Because the premise in TFA is complete bollocks, I propose we turn this into a Daenarys thread.




pic is borrowed


I wouldnt mind an Emilia Clarke thread but her character is just awful
 
2013-06-18 12:23:43 PM
i had no idea what the heck the article was talking about, but it did come across as b.s.
 
2013-06-18 12:24:03 PM

The Downfall: Dany = Rubio
Joffrey/Cersei = Obama
Robb Stark = Rand Paul
Tyrion = Boehner
Stannis = Hillary
Greyjoys = Iran
Jamie = McCain

WTF??



Well... Jamie was a POW.  Obama is the currently on the "throne".  Other than that, no.
 
2013-06-18 12:24:30 PM
Joe Biden is Hodor.
 
2013-06-18 12:25:05 PM
Obligatory:

lipstickandpolitics.com
 
2013-06-18 12:25:10 PM

what_now: It's a fantasy series involving dragons and magic. Stop trying to make it relevant to politics and enjoy it.


Hey, the creationist museum has an exhibit on dragons now, it's fair game.

Also, it may be derp, but it's unintentionally hilarious derp.
 
2013-06-18 12:25:12 PM
John Boehner and Tyrion Lannister?

Yeah... No. Maybe the drinking, but that's it.
 
2013-06-18 12:25:33 PM

what_now: It's a fantasy series involving dragons and magic. Stop trying to make it relevant to politics and enjoy it.


Some people want to make it relevant to politics because they assume they are or will be the Lannisters.
 
2013-06-18 12:26:26 PM

The Downfall: Tyrion = Boehner


images.encyclopediadramatica.se
 
2013-06-18 12:26:27 PM
Ramsay Bolton = Dick Cheney
Michele Bachmann = Hodor
 
2013-06-18 12:26:43 PM

Bot v2.38beta: kitsuneymg: Someone has too much time on their hands. This is about as sensical and trying to map Equestria's political landscape onto the real world.

Is that considering the website layout? Seven pages for that bullshait? I'd rather read seven pages about boiled leather.


That can be arranged.
 
2013-06-18 12:27:21 PM
I think it would have been a better list if the writer just said every politician is Littlefinger
 
2013-06-18 12:27:24 PM

what_now: It's a fantasy series involving dragons and magic. Stop trying to make it relevant to politics and enjoy it.


I dunno, sounds pretty relevant to southern evangelicals.
 
2013-06-18 12:27:42 PM
So who's the real llfe equivalent of Joffrey?
 
2013-06-18 12:27:46 PM
International Relations Theory in Game of Thrones

by: Hodor
 
2013-06-18 12:28:20 PM

tblax


I wouldnt mind an Emilia Clarke thread but her character is just awful


That would be fine too*, but the headline referred to Daenerys.


* I do not control these things.
 
2013-06-18 12:29:43 PM
i208.photobucket.com
Believes in the Golden Rule.
 
2013-06-18 12:29:49 PM

Drubell: So who's the real llfe equivalent of Joffrey?


img.timeinc.net
 
2013-06-18 12:29:52 PM
"Sexy, sexy neocon"? No, that does not exist.

/DNRTFA
//DNWGoT
 
2013-06-18 12:29:58 PM

Skyrmion: Obligatory:

[lipstickandpolitics.com image 850x572]


Clearly this was made before the end of Season 3 and/or never read the books.
 
2013-06-18 12:30:36 PM

Directorscut: Drubell: So who's the real llfe equivalent of Joffrey?


Oh snap
 
2013-06-18 12:30:53 PM

theorellior: She is? She tries to protect the Meereen from the landed powerbase, and is always looking out for the downtrodden. "Neocon" is not something I'd remotely associate with Daenerys Targareyn.


She's a benovelent dictator.

While she cares about the welling being of the common man, at the end of the day still believes that it's her divine right to be the ruler of Westeros, and she relies on military force to legitimize her rule.
 
2013-06-18 12:33:09 PM

WTF Indeed: Game of Thrones is not a master's course on political warfare.


It would make for a helluva fun conversation though, especially with some beer & weed.  There are a lot of Ayn Rand and Niccolo Machiavelli undertones.

The Downfall: Well I stopped reading after this: However, Obama is often a bad realist, more Joffrey than Tywin. On the margins, the U.S. gained nothing by irritating Israel and cozying up to Russia, which had supported three UN sanctions resolutions under President Bush. It got less from Assad. The mullahs, now democracy-free, continue to enrich uranium.


Like I said. . . this is not a conversation to undertake while sober.
 
2013-06-18 12:34:49 PM
This is precisely the sort of rigorous, objective, intellectual application of knowledge that we've all come to expect from politicians, hacks and their supporters.

Keep farking that chicken, guys.

/ the characters I like are all *just like* the real people I like
// the characters I do not like are all *just like* the real people I do not like
/// funny how it just worked out that way, when selectively reported data was fudged through a flimsy subjective interpretation of the self-contradictory world view I cheer on full time.
 
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