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(National Review)   Romney Revenge: everything he said about Obamacare came true   (nationalreview.com ) divider line
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2013-06-18 09:35:52 AM  
Maybe Pelosi should have read it to see what was in it.
 
2013-06-18 09:38:26 AM  
 
2013-06-18 09:41:11 AM  
A young person who pays $0 for health insurance now is going to have to pay $100 per month under Obamacare. That is a HUGE increase!
 
2013-06-18 09:42:20 AM  
If you say something enough, the idiots will believe it to be true... See top of thread for example.
 
2013-06-18 09:42:31 AM  

vernonFL: A young person who pays $0 for health insurance now is going to have to pay $100 per month under Obamacare. That is a HUGE increase!


It's like infinity increase!
 
2013-06-18 09:42:39 AM  
The problem here is that the author assumes that a more capitalist, freer market approach to healthcare actually means better coverage, lower prices, and better quality. The facts of this "product" and its market prove this assumption wrong..
 
2013-06-18 09:44:40 AM  

hinten: The problem here is that the author assumes that a more capitalist, freer market approach to healthcare actually means better coverage, lower prices, and better quality. The facts of this "product" and its market prove this assumption wrong..


The never have been fans of empirical evidence, because sometimes it proves you wrong.
 
2013-06-18 09:46:53 AM  
Except for, you know, all of it.
 
2013-06-18 09:51:27 AM  
A study I conducted for Forbes found that premiums for 25- and 40-year-olds in California will double for many healthy individuals.

That wasn't a study. And it's been debunked by multiple people.
 
2013-06-18 09:51:31 AM  

vernonFL: A young person who pays $0 for health insurance now is going to have to pay $100 per month under Obamacare. That is a HUGE increase!


And when they get sick or injured, it won't cost them as much.  Nor will the cost be passed off to the rest of us.

OH THE HORRORS!
 
2013-06-18 09:54:12 AM  
He should know, it's based on Romneycare.
 
2013-06-18 09:59:38 AM  

Walker: He should know, it's based on Romneycare.


It's only "socialized medicine" when the blah guy does it.  Romney never answered for that - making it mandatory and imposing penalties for those not compliance.  All he ever said was that the Mass. Constitution allowed it.
 
2013-06-18 10:01:49 AM  

Walker: He should know, it's based on Romneycare.


I wouldn't put much faith in what that vapid, entitled twat "knows"...
 
2013-06-18 10:16:02 AM  
Q: What is Avik Roy's replacement for ObamaCare?
A: ObamaCare.
 
2013-06-18 10:16:49 AM  

Walker: He should know, it's based on Romneycare.



He should know, it's based on Romneycare.

He should know, it's based on Romneycare.
 
2013-06-18 10:17:39 AM  
NRO?

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2013-06-18 10:18:20 AM  

Diogenes: vernonFL: A young person who pays $0 for health insurance now is going to have to pay $100 per month under Obamacare. That is a HUGE increase!

And when they get sick or injured, it won't cost them as much.  Nor will the cost be passed off to the rest of us.

OH THE HORRORS!


...I still think the overestimation of how many people can afford healthcare but choose not to, as opposed to people who really can't afford even the $100/month plans under Obamacare, will be the program's downfall.
 
2013-06-18 10:18:39 AM  

Diogenes: Walker: He should know, it's based on Romneycare.

It's only "socialized medicine" when the blah guy does it.  Romney never answered for that - making it mandatory and imposing penalties for those not compliance.   All he ever said was that the Mass. Constitution allowed it.


I've never understood the idea that the goodness of a policy and the constitutionality of that policy are equal. Slavery was constitutional for eighty years, and yet we (almost) universally think slavery is morally abhorrent.
 
2013-06-18 10:19:37 AM  
Can't these clowns actually get anything right without distorting it to their own retarded political opinions?
 
2013-06-18 10:20:37 AM  
I never understood why the guy who invented Obamacare should have ever been taken seriously by anyone to "repeal" the bill. But then again Mitt Romney in the Presidential Campaign was an Enigma that even Sigmund Fraud couldn't figure out.
 
2013-06-18 10:20:42 AM  

Born to Die: Walker: He should know, it's based on Romneycare.

He should know, it's based on Romneycare.

He should know, it's based on Romneycare.


Uh it's NRO, so farking whatever. But the author of tfa seems to be trying to highlight the differences between Romneycare and Obamacare. Even if it's all b.s., as least shut off the echo chamber and argue the points raised.
 
2013-06-18 10:20:51 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Maybe Pelosi should have read it to see what was in it.



Says the partisan shill on the government dole.
 
2013-06-18 10:21:19 AM  
I never understood why the guy who invented Obamacare should have ever been taken seriously by anyone to "repeal" the bill. But then again Mitt Romney in the Presidential Campaign was an Enigma that even Sigmund Freud couldn't figure out.

/dp
 
2013-06-18 10:21:48 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: A study I conducted for Forbes found that premiums for 25- and 40-year-olds in California will double for many healthy individuals.

That wasn't a study. And it's been debunked by multiple people.


He studied it out.  That's got to count for something.
 
2013-06-18 10:22:24 AM  
They do also say that living in bitterness, muttering to whatever sympathetic ear you can convince to hear your ramblings, is the best revenge.
 
2013-06-18 10:23:16 AM  

IlGreven: ...I still think the overestimation of how many people can afford healthcare but choose not to, as opposed to people who really can't afford even the $100/month plans under Obamacare, will be the program's downfall.


The Health Connector here in MA has subsidized plans as low as $3.00 a month for those with low incomes...
 
2013-06-18 10:24:22 AM  

vernonFL: A young person who pays $0 for health insurance now is going to have to pay $100 per month under Obamacare. That is a HUGE increase!


That is eleventy billion percent in GOP math
 
2013-06-18 10:24:27 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Maybe Pelosi should have read it to see what was in it.


Go away troll.  Every time you trot out this chestnut, you demonstrate that you have no idea how our legislative process works.  In fact, you've failed on this so many times that I really don't think you're even an American citizen.

There.  Someone paid attention to you.  Does that make you happy enough that you'll go away now?  Do you feel as though you accomplished something?

If not, please, let us know what more we can do to rid ourselves of you.
 
2013-06-18 10:24:59 AM  
Because the old system of people being denied coverage because they had a pre-existing condition and getting hosed in insurance company overhead fees was so fantastic.
 
2013-06-18 10:25:05 AM  
How is this even possible when Quantum Romney took every position on every issue?
 
2013-06-18 10:25:26 AM  

hinten: The problem here is that the author assumes that a more capitalist, freer market approach to healthcare actually means better coverage, lower prices, and better quality. The facts of this "product" and its market prove this assumption wrong..


It's amazing that people that worship the free market have NO IDEA how it works in practice.
 
2013-06-18 10:26:30 AM  
RomneyReagan Revenge: everything he said about Obamacare came true
 
2013-06-18 10:27:31 AM  
and everything he said about the economy was right.
and everything he said about Benghazi was right.
and everything he said about foreign policy was right.
and everything he said about the debt was right.
and everything he said about the job creation was right.

but he was a Mormon and Harry Reid got information from "someone" that lied about his taxes.
 
2013-06-18 10:27:58 AM  
Well, I guess it's true, the US should have gone to a publicly funded single payer system.  Or a heavily regulated, private, non-profit system, if you like paperwork better.
 
2013-06-18 10:28:53 AM  

hinten: The problem here is that the author assumes that a more capitalist, freer market approach to healthcare actually means better coverage, lower prices, and better quality. The facts of this "product" and its market prove this assumption wrong..


I cracked up when Avik Roy suggested we get rid of ObamaCare and start doing what those paragons of capitalism in Switzerland and Singapore do.
 
2013-06-18 10:29:47 AM  
Let's check some of these 'true' things Romney said about the ACA, shall we?

"Regulations have quadrupled. The rate of regulations quadrupled under this president." - Mitt Romney on Tuesday, October 16th, 2012 in town hall presidential debate. In fact, the most up-to-date figures show about 8.5 percent fewer regulations in Obama's first 46 months than in the same time frame for Bush. That tally comes from the Office of Management and Budget.

"Right now, the (Congressional Budget Office) says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year." - Mitt Romney on Wednesday, October 3rd, 2012 in the first presidential debate in Denver. A number of other estimates by groups other than CBO have tracked with CBO's baseline estimate, rather than with Romney's figure. A study by the Urban Institute projected a decline of about 500,000 people. The Lewin Group predicted a decline of about 3 million people. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services actuary pegged the number at about 1 million fewer people. And the RAND Corp. projected that about 4 million more individuals would be covered by employment-based coverage by 2016. So the 20 million number Romney cited does come from CBO, and he hedged by saying "up to." But it's the most extreme outcome of the five presented, and it's not the primary estimate... and many who "lose" coverage will do so because they find better options under the Obama health care law.

Eliminating "Obamacare" ... "saves $95 billion a year." - Mitt Romney on Sunday, January 8th, 2012 in a presidential primary debate in New Hampshire. PolitiFact contacted the Romney campaign, which referred them to an analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the agency that independently calculates the cost of laws proposed by both parties. According to the CBO analysis, a full repeal of the bill would reduce the deficit by $16 billion in 2016, much less than the number Romney cited... but that's just half of the ledger. When the CBO looked at the first 10 years of repeal, from 2012 to 2021, it found that repeal added $210 billion to the deficit. So the deficit would actually be lower if the law is not repealed.

The Republiconservabertarians keep using words like "everything" and "true"...

i301.photobucket.com

...I do not think they mean what they think they mean.
 
2013-06-18 10:30:43 AM  
As a corollary, now over 50% of the country thinks the IRS scandal was initiated by the White House.

In a country of retards, retards will believe retarded things.  Thanks Fox News!
 
2013-06-18 10:31:06 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and everything he said about the economy was right.
and everything he said about Benghazi was right.
and everything he said about foreign policy was right.
and everything he said about the debt was right.
and everything he said about the job creation was right.

but he was a Mormon and Harry Reid got information from "someone" that lied about his taxes.


Gosh, you seem to love Romney more than libs love Obama.
 
2013-06-18 10:31:22 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and everything he said about foreign policy was right.


I mean your whole post is really stupid but did Romney ever say anything about foreign policy? Especially since he and Ryan had no foreign policy experience whatsover.
 
2013-06-18 10:31:23 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and everything he said about the economy was right.
and everything he said about Benghazi was right.
and everything he said about foreign policy was right.
and everything he said about the debt was right.
and everything he said about the job creation was right.

but he was a Mormon and Harry Reid got information from "someone" that lied about his taxes.


You sound bitter.

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...jus' a l'il bit.
 
2013-06-18 10:31:26 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: A study I conducted for Forbes found that premiums for 25- and 40-year-olds in California will double for many healthy individuals.

That wasn't a study. And it's been debunked by multiple people.

bloggers who were wrong.

ftfy.
 
2013-06-18 10:31:40 AM  
A hero tag? Really? Or is that for me for not throwing up while reading the headline.
 
2013-06-18 10:33:27 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and everything he said about the economy was right.
and everything he said about Benghazi was right.
and everything he said about foreign policy was right.
and everything he said about the debt was right.
and everything he said about the job creation was right.


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He's still not gonna sleep with you, dude.
 
2013-06-18 10:33:36 AM  

Cletus C.: Uh it's NRO, so farking whatever. But the author of tfa seems to be trying to highlight the differences between Romneycare and Obamacare. Even if it's all b.s., as least shut off the echo chamber and argue the points raised.


Wouldn't shutting off the echo chamber mean not even reading the article in the first place?
 
2013-06-18 10:34:09 AM  

calm like a bomb: tenpoundsofcheese: and everything he said about the economy was right.
and everything he said about Benghazi was right.
and everything he said about foreign policy was right.
and everything he said about the debt was right.
and everything he said about the job creation was right.

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He's still not gonna sleep with you, dude.


Is the problem that Mitt Romney isn't gay or that he isn't into queso?
 
2013-06-18 10:34:54 AM  
but he was a Mormon

I don't recall this really being an issue at all (yes we made fun of his "magic underwear") but I remember the people that really had an issue with his religion were fellow Republicans.
 
2013-06-18 10:35:28 AM  
The Obama-Czar FEMA Death Panels are REAL?!?!? ZOMG!

Why can't we just have a  totally free-market and deregulated health system. It would be just as amazing as when California deregulated their power utilities. Competition increased, rates dropped, supply was plentiful and consumers were the big winners.

/Am I doing it right?
 
2013-06-18 10:38:30 AM  

coeyagi: As a corollary, now over 50% of the country thinks the IRS scandal was initiated by the White House.

In a country of retards, retards will believe retarded things.  Thanks Fox News!


that's because the rest of the chickenshiat media reports "both sides" equally, even though the fox side is completely wrong.
 
2013-06-18 10:38:54 AM  
So the ultra rich will pay more for the care they want or take the same care as everyone else, meanwhile I will pay less than I do now for better care because the care the ACA would give me (a poor person) is better and cheaper than what I have

Because of this travesty I am supposed to care what Mitt thinks?


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2013-06-18 10:38:56 AM  

Serious Black: He's still not gonna sleep with you, dude.

Is the problem that Mitt Romney isn't gay or that he isn't into queso?


More that he still has problems getting it up after getting trounced.
 
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