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2013-06-18 08:32:11 AM  
Its a trap!
 
2013-06-18 08:32:30 AM  

Oldiron_79: Its a trap!


Ditto
 
2013-06-18 08:34:05 AM  
TFA: "

"The U.S. Government, just as they did with other whistle-blowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime. That's not justice, and it would be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said during the chat. "


 Sounds about right.
 
2013-06-18 08:35:03 AM  
how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?
 
2013-06-18 08:35:26 AM  
He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.
 
2013-06-18 08:36:55 AM  

Freakin Rican: how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?


We can never have too many, in my opinion.  It needs to stay in the spot light.
 
2013-06-18 08:37:18 AM  

redmid17: TFA: "

"The U.S. Government, just as they did with other whistle-blowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime. That's not justice, and it would be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said during the chat. "

 Sounds about right.


To be fair, he just farked off to Hong Kong and assumed that from the start. It's not much of a point. Of COURSE he doesn't think he should get in any trouble.
 
2013-06-18 08:38:03 AM  
So now we know how his son learned to be an attention whore?
 
2013-06-18 08:38:21 AM  
good i hope he never gets turned in. I care for this government as much as they care about me
 
2013-06-18 08:38:47 AM  
urges son not to commit 'treason'

Um, too late?
 
2013-06-18 08:39:30 AM  

Freakin Rican: how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?


Let's ask an NSA agent since they monitor this shiat 24/7
 
2013-06-18 08:39:41 AM  
So many "scandals"....so much butthurt
 
2013-06-18 08:40:41 AM  
This is crap, his dad was on youtube ranting against the government.

record all senate and congressional phone, email, and chat correspondence and make it public for anyone to see.

If the government has the power to record our conversations we should, as a society, be able to review all senate and congressional conversations via phone, email, and chat to monitor for criminal activity and back room deals. Our elected officials are working for us, therefore we should have complete insight into what they are doing behind closed doors. This holds true for any corporation, why not the US government.
 
2013-06-18 08:41:22 AM  

redmid17: TFA: "

"The U.S. Government, just as they did with other whistle-blowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime. That's not justice, and it would be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said during the chat. "


 Sounds about right.


Yeah If I pissed in the NSAs cheereos Id seek asylum in a country that hates the US. Russia or China beats the hell out of a fingernail factory™
 
2013-06-18 08:41:28 AM  
Government Definitions:
wistleblower: You brought into the open information I agree should be made public

traitor: You brought into the openinformation I disagree should be made public


Simple, anyone can see the difference and never make any mistakes about which is which.
 
2013-06-18 08:41:42 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Freakin Rican: how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?

Let's ask an NSA agent since they monitor this shiat 24/7


heh, maybe on of the mods are an agent
 
2013-06-18 08:45:01 AM  
CSB

Talking with my parents (who are in their 70s) on father's day, my mother said "I can't believe they want to arrest him. He is doing the right thing."  I quickly asked her "What would Richard Nixon have done if he knew who Deep Throat was?"  She then understood why he was wanted.

/CSB
 
2013-06-18 08:46:25 AM  

GameSprocket: He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's also admitted he gave the Chinese military information on how the US was spying on them. I'm guessing it was done to ensure they'll deny extradition.
 
2013-06-18 08:46:46 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Freakin Rican: how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?

Let's ask an NSA agent since they monitor this shiat 24/7


As many as you can, friend. We cyber-snoopers need to keep busy as well (or keep looking busy, which is the same thing). Can't tell you how much we appreciate your treasonable speculation, your questioning of the benevolent authority which protects us all from the (c) terrzm all around us.

That's why I got my Ph.D. in Homeland Security. Security for me, most of all. I'll have this job until I die, thanks to obliging folks like you. Course if you didn't exist and spout off we'd still have to invent you.
 
2013-06-18 08:47:59 AM  

Oldiron_79: redmid17: TFA: "

"The U.S. Government, just as they did with other whistle-blowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime. That's not justice, and it would be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said during the chat. "


 Sounds about right.

Yeah If I pissed in the NSAs cheereos Id seek asylum in a country that hates the US. Russia or China beats the hell out of a fingernail factory™


Kind of undermines your integrity as a whistleblower on a surveillance state if you go running to China, though.
 
2013-06-18 08:48:01 AM  

GameSprocket: He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.



No there is a system to be a whistle blower without leaking secret information. He did not want to do that. Instead he lied and went to the news with those lies. First he said every had access to any conversation of a US citzen without a warrant, which now we know was a lie.
 
2013-06-18 08:50:34 AM  
why are we focusing on the whistleblower? why don't we retroactively impeach Bush II?
 
2013-06-18 08:50:56 AM  

Freakin Rican: how many leaked NSA greenlights can we have today?


Ask the NSA.
 
2013-06-18 08:51:12 AM  

Corvus: First he said every had access to any conversation of a US citzen without a warrant, which now we know was a lie.


I wouldn't be surprised if that little slide show of his is bogus. Indeed I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have anything genuine.
 
2013-06-18 08:51:48 AM  

Corvus: No there is a system to be a whistle blower without leaking secret information. He did not want to do that. Instead he lied and went to the news with those lies. First he said every had access to any conversation of a US citzen without a warrant, which now we know was a lie.


Yes because the director of the NSA is such a top notch and trusted source of information
 
2013-06-18 08:52:22 AM  
Sorry, libertarian Snowden groupies; he's gonna look like a lesbian just like his dad in about 20 years.
 
2013-06-18 08:52:31 AM  
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2013-06-18 08:53:06 AM  
His dad looks like he's in transition to his mom, or rather, grandma. Yikes.
 
2013-06-18 08:53:19 AM  
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his father is tony curtis?
 
2013-06-18 08:53:44 AM  
Nice, tight shot on the dad. You can't even see the gun aimed at his head.
 
2013-06-18 08:54:36 AM  
Subby, I am disappoint.

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2013-06-18 08:55:44 AM  
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Liberace is still alive?
 
2013-06-18 08:55:47 AM  

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his father is tony curtis?


Someone nailed it yesterday.

Alice.

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2013-06-18 08:56:29 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Corvus: No there is a system to be a whistle blower without leaking secret information. He did not want to do that. Instead he lied and went to the news with those lies. First he said every had access to any conversation of a US citzen without a warrant, which now we know was a lie.

Yes because the director of the NSA is such a top notch and trusted source of information



What are you talking about? I don't even know who the head of the NSA is. Snow den has changed his story. What he originally said was a lie.
 
2013-06-18 08:59:29 AM  

digistil: GameSprocket: He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's also admitted he gave the Chinese military information on how the US was spying on them. I'm guessing it was done to ensure they'll deny extradition.


Ah. I've been on vacation and so I wasn't paying that close of attention. Well then, screw this guy.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-06-18 08:59:51 AM  

GameSprocket: He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.


A little late for that now that he has released other information.
 
2013-06-18 09:00:03 AM  
"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein ... the better off we all are," Snowden said.

He added that "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it."

In one of his final replies, Snowden attacked the "mainstream media" for its coverage, saying it "now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicion-less surveillance in human history."
 
2013-06-18 09:00:55 AM  
Actually, there's quite good whistleblower protections.   Had he sumbitted his objections through channels first, he'd have some statutory protections.   Running off to the press first, is NOT the way to handle almost anything, let alone classified information.
 
2013-06-18 09:01:49 AM  
"I hope, I pray" he does not do anything considered treasonous.

I think that ship has sailed.
 
2013-06-18 09:02:07 AM  
What's the saddest part of this is I doubt the majority arguing about this actually have no idea of the details. This guys story has radically changed but most news sources are not reporting that and many government paranoids are ignoring what the details actually are.

I am not saying the law shouldn't change but lying and leaking secrets is not the way to do it.
 
2013-06-18 09:03:30 AM  

Corvus: What are you talking about? I don't even know who the head of the NSA is. Snow den has changed his story. What he originally said was a lie.


What lie specifically has he told?
 
2013-06-18 09:04:09 AM  

BMFPitt: Oldiron_79: redmid17: TFA: "

"The U.S. Government, just as they did with other whistle-blowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime. That's not justice, and it would be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said during the chat. "


 Sounds about right.

Yeah If I pissed in the NSAs cheereos Id seek asylum in a country that hates the US. Russia or China beats the hell out of a fingernail factory™

Kind of undermines your integrity as a whistleblower on a surveillance state if you go running to China, though.


Sadly these days Russia is less of a Police state than the US these days.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-06-18 09:05:11 AM  

GameSprocket: digistil: GameSprocket: He needs to wait for a case to get to the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the program. If the program is declared illegal, and he only ever released information to expose that program, then he should fall well within "wistleblower" protections.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's also admitted he gave the Chinese military information on how the US was spying on them. I'm guessing it was done to ensure they'll deny extradition.

Ah. I've been on vacation and so I wasn't paying that close of attention. Well then, screw this guy.


I think he pretty much screwed up at that point.  Before he had just released classified information.  Now it sounds like he is guilty of espionage.

I don't think whistle blower protection is an option now.
 
2013-06-18 09:09:15 AM  
I still don't get why everyone is upset about this.
How can you wake up and assume you're not being watched by someone?
 
2013-06-18 09:09:38 AM  
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2013-06-18 09:09:39 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Corvus: What are you talking about? I don't even know who the head of the NSA is. Snow den has changed his story. What he originally said was a lie.

What lie specifically has he told?


I already said. His originally story was government people could listen into any conversation of any citizen without a warrant at anytime. That was not true.
And now his story is well they are just recording it for if they get a warrant. That's a huge difference. He originally lied and now that he is being caught in his lie he is changing his story.
 
2013-06-18 09:12:22 AM  

neversubmit: "Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein ... the better off we all are," Snowden said.

He added that "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it."

In one of his final replies, Snowden attacked the "mainstream media" for its coverage, saying it "now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicion-less surveillance in human history."


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2013-06-18 09:12:59 AM  

Corvus: I already said. His originally story was government people could listen into any conversation of any citizen without a warrant at anytime. That was not true.
And now his story is well they are just recording it for if they get a warrant. That's a huge difference. He originally lied and now that he is being caught in his lie he is changing his story.


NO, he said that with a word he could look into any conversation of any citizen which was corroborated with documentation. Now yes, that word may still require a warrant, but to your average layman contractor it may appear as if those requests just come willy nilly.

And keep in mind, the press still has documents yet to be released
 
2013-06-18 09:13:52 AM  
Why does our security apparatus allow private contractors to have access to this kind of info in the first place?
 
2013-06-18 09:15:52 AM  
Mr Snowden, here's $1,000,000, just read this on Fox news and no one will get hurt.
 
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