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(Stuff.co.nz)   Want to get drunk without consuming the calories from alcohol? Yes, there's a way. Difficulty: A few minor side effects, like death   (stuff.co.nz) divider line 31
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2013-06-18 08:05:17 AM  
3 votes:
If alcohol enters the blood stream how have you avoided the calories?
2013-06-18 08:51:56 AM  
2 votes:

Smidge204: mbillips: Why would dry ice in alcohol produce alcohol vapor? It's COOLING the alcohol. All you should be getting off that is CO2. Which can make you "high" in the same way the suffocating game can.

My first question as well.

Second question: Why would anyone think they're avoiding the calories by inhaling the vapors? You're still absorbing the alcohol into your body where it is metabolized... whether it enters your bloodstream through your digestive or respiratory tract is pretty irrelevant as far as calories go.
=Smidge=


For the first question: one possibility is that the dry ice is serving as effectively an agitant. If you drop a chunk of dry ice into liquid, it immediately starts to bubble. Everclear--nearly pure ethanol--would rapidly evaporate if poured out on your counter, but evaporates slowly from an open bottle because it's limited by the local vapor pressure: in the neck of the bottle, gaseous ethanol is at its peak concentration and more ethanol can only evaporate if some of that sitting vapor is displaced; on your counter, there is a greatly increased liquid-gas phase transition area and typically a great deal more air circulation, both expediting evaporation. While the dry ice is cooling the alcohol down, it's also vigorously mixing the liquid and expelling gas from the bottle. In what I've described--using high proof alcohol--the expelled gas would be a fairly potent mix of CO2 and ethanol vapor.

That said, in the image in the story, this genius is using Budweiser. Not a chance you're going to get any substantial alcohol out of that. He's just getting buzzed off of hypoxia.

As for the second question: the only calorie savings would be in avoiding the often calorie-dense mixers (soda, juice) because the absorbed alcohol will of course be caloric. Of course, people trying to literally inhale a 40 of Bud are not going to be the sharpest knives in the drawer...
2013-06-18 08:21:06 AM  
2 votes:

mbillips: Why would dry ice in alcohol produce alcohol vapor? It's COOLING the alcohol. All you should be getting off that is CO2. Which can make you "high" in the same way the suffocating game can.


My first question as well.

Second question: Why would anyone think they're avoiding the calories by inhaling the vapors? You're still absorbing the alcohol into your body where it is metabolized... whether it enters your bloodstream through your digestive or respiratory tract is pretty irrelevant as far as calories go.
=Smidge=
2013-06-18 08:16:11 AM  
2 votes:
Why would dry ice in alcohol produce alcohol vapor? It's COOLING the alcohol. All you should be getting off that is CO2. Which can make you "high" in the same way the suffocating game can.
2013-06-18 07:35:15 AM  
2 votes:
Why not just smoke pot? I'm allergic to pot but I think I'd find an alternate method to a low calorie high than dry ice in cheap beer. Maybe vigorous exercise immediately followed by furious masturbation or something.
2013-06-18 09:42:47 AM  
1 votes:
Meanwhile, Cannabis sits quietly on the Schedule I list...
2013-06-18 09:42:23 AM  
1 votes:
fireclown

That's how I feel. Straight Absolute is one of the less caloric vodkas out there. Cut out the middlemen and save yourself those calories.

I drink a Polish potato vodka because it's both low in calories and easier on my stomach. (In moderation and only about once a week, tops.)
2013-06-18 09:19:23 AM  
1 votes:
there aren't a whole lot of calories in liquor unless you mix in a lot of sugar or whatnot.  Just do shots.
2013-06-18 09:06:46 AM  
1 votes:
Where the heck are kids buying dry ice?  (firmly affixes onion to belt)  When I was a kid it was easier to buy beer, alcohol, or anything else a kid wanted than it was to buy dry ice.  We were still was able to get that and various cap-able containers.
2013-06-18 08:57:53 AM  
1 votes:

mbillips: Why would dry ice in alcohol produce alcohol vapor? It's COOLING the alcohol. All you should be getting off that is CO2. Which can make you "high" in the same way the suffocating game can.


The idea is that the bubbles of CO2 rising through the alcohol are going to partially fill with ethanol vapor. This does occur, but I have no idea how effective it is. Then you inhale the CO2/ethanol vapor. But I agree that there is probably some oxygen deprivation going on here also.
2013-06-18 08:53:37 AM  
1 votes:

mbillips: Even where it's legal, it's barred for most employees. How do dope smokers make a living? Self-employed artist? Work for parents? Where I live, just about EVERY employer does a pre-employment drug screen, because they get a 10 percent break on their worker's comp insurance if they're a "drug-free workplace."


More people need to crawl up their politicians asses to change these types of things. It's happening but far too slowly. I don't even really smoke the stuff because it gives me the noids but the attitudes need to change because a society that views alcohol as the only acceptable way to get your buzz on is going to be far more violent, unhealthy and stupid.
2013-06-18 08:46:52 AM  
1 votes:

Hoblit: I'm not sure if you're trolling or not but the 'method' you say that I want to try is more dangerous. If this is the case, then I wouldn't do it. I was actually asking for anecdotal advice or if anyone had any leads on good information before I Googled it any further. You do know that the world turns and new things are learned all the time and that we continue to move forward with those discoveries, right? Otherwise we might still be bloodletting or hacking off limbs to fight infection.


It is more dangerous than just drinking it. If you are inhaling there are far less of the bodies natural filters for the alcohol to go through and this makes alcohol poisoning a much larger risk. Also you have to consider that your lungs are not designed for it. You can live a much longer and healthier life with a bad stomach than you can with bad lungs. It just ain't worth it.

However if you are hell bent on trying it there are actually bars that serve vaporized alcohol. You'd probably be a lot safer going to try it somewhere like that where the staff are at least experienced with the process and likely more prepared in case of emergencies.

Personally I really don't see the fun in inhaling alcohol. I used to drink HARD and enjoyed it. It started killing me so I cut back. Now I can enjoy a couple beers and it's no big deal. In fact after cutting back those two beers give me a semi decent buzz for a lot cheaper and I don't feel like death the next day. Part of my problems were stomach/gastro intestinal related as well. I don't have those issues anymore. Another thing that helped immensely was switching from crappy cheapo mass produced beers to beers that followed the Bavarian Purity Laws. 3-4 ingredients. Tasty. No gut rot.

Take care of yourself. It's worth it.
2013-06-18 08:34:12 AM  
1 votes:
Near the end of December I made a bunch of jars of Bourbon BBQ sauce (okay, I used Jack, so it's Whiskey BBQ sauce).  The recipe called for 1 cup of booze and I was making a double batch, so 2 cups.  In a sauce pan.  Over heat.  With me standing near/over it stirring.

Figured something was up in about 5 minutes, had all the windows open in 10.

/don't drink nearly as much as I did 10 years ago, so I'm a real lightweight now.
//sauce came out great tho
///most recent batch had real Bourbon in it
2013-06-18 08:29:11 AM  
1 votes:
You can also inject it, heat it and inhale the fumes, or infuse it in an enema.

\\\ None of which are recommended.
2013-06-18 08:26:45 AM  
1 votes:

mbillips: here to help: Hoblit: To those who endorse weed as the alternative. Just stop it.

1. It's not the same high
2. It's still illegal
3. A lot of us have jobs that do random drug testing

It simply isn't a viable alternative. I have nothing against it at all and I'm not saying that it shouldn't be smoked. I'm just saying in application as an alternative, it is not.

Move to somewhere it's legal or quit drinking. The method you say you want to try is more dangerous even if it's marketed. You're trying to make a distinction between the marketed method and the other "dangerous" methods when they are the exact same thing. You have a problem and it is affecting your health. It's time to stop. If you can't stop then get help.

Simple.

Even where it's legal, it's barred for most employees. How do dope smokers make a living? Self-employed artist? Work for parents? Where I live, just about EVERY employer does a pre-employment drug screen, because they get a 10 percent break on their worker's comp insurance if they're a "drug-free workplace."

Not disagreeing with the "stop drinking" advice (although, as a sometimes binge drinker myself, I can testify that it's not so "simple."). But weed is a practical alternative only for a minority of people.


I have friends that work at places with pretty liberal drug policies where they flat out tell you "don't come in high and no drug tests".  And of course get your shiat done or you're fired.
2013-06-18 08:21:36 AM  
1 votes:

here to help: Hoblit: To those who endorse weed as the alternative. Just stop it.

1. It's not the same high
2. It's still illegal
3. A lot of us have jobs that do random drug testing

It simply isn't a viable alternative. I have nothing against it at all and I'm not saying that it shouldn't be smoked. I'm just saying in application as an alternative, it is not.

Move to somewhere it's legal or quit drinking. The method you say you want to try is more dangerous even if it's marketed. You're trying to make a distinction between the marketed method and the other "dangerous" methods when they are the exact same thing. You have a problem and it is affecting your health. It's time to stop. If you can't stop then get help.

Simple.


Even where it's legal, it's barred for most employees. How do dope smokers make a living? Self-employed artist? Work for parents? Where I live, just about EVERY employer does a pre-employment drug screen, because they get a 10 percent break on their worker's comp insurance if they're a "drug-free workplace."

Not disagreeing with the "stop drinking" advice (although, as a sometimes binge drinker myself, I can testify that it's not so "simple."). But weed is a practical alternative only for a minority of people.
2013-06-18 08:16:32 AM  
1 votes:
I'm partial to the old fashioned method, thanks.
2013-06-18 08:12:42 AM  
1 votes:

Hoblit: To those who endorse weed as the alternative. Just stop it.

1. It's not the same high
2. It's still illegal
3. A lot of us have jobs that do random drug testing

It simply isn't a viable alternative. I have nothing against it at all and I'm not saying that it shouldn't be smoked. I'm just saying in application as an alternative, it is not.


Move to somewhere it's legal or quit drinking. The method you say you want to try is more dangerous even if it's marketed. You're trying to make a distinction between the marketed method and the other "dangerous" methods when they are the exact same thing. You have a problem and it is affecting your health. It's time to stop. If you can't stop then get help.

Simple.
2013-06-18 08:07:57 AM  
1 votes:
To those who endorse weed as the alternative. Just stop it.

1. It's not the same high
2. It's still illegal
3. A lot of us have jobs that do random drug testing

It simply isn't a viable alternative. I have nothing against it at all and I'm not saying that it shouldn't be smoked. I'm just saying in application as an alternative, it is not.
mhd
2013-06-18 07:57:36 AM  
1 votes:
Well, valar morghulis...
2013-06-18 07:57:04 AM  
1 votes:

Hoblit: As kind of a joke when I started getting serious stomach issues, I looked up alternative ways to consume alcohol that avoided the organ.

This was one of the options but I don't think the AWOL or any commercial device existed yet. There are plenty of extremely dangerous ways to consume alcohol other than drinking it. However, maybe there is a reason to be able to do so? If a commercially safe product can be made, then why not report on that with objectiveness. They lump in this device as if it were just as dangerous as anything else they mention out of ignorance. I don't know much about the product myself but the article simply throws it to the side based on the testimony of what some guy said because he too was just chucking it in with the rest of the dangerous suggestions.

Anybody know more about this commercial product that could save havok on people's stomachs while they may be going through some issue with that organ?


Dude... just switch to weed. I like to drink too but once something pleasurable starts being painful... stop.
2013-06-18 07:39:37 AM  
1 votes:

StaleCoffee: Why not just smoke pot? I'm allergic to pot but I think I'd find an alternate method to a low calorie high than dry ice in cheap beer. Maybe vigorous exercise immediately followed by furious masturbation or something.


Because alcohol is legal.......sure I'm sure it's easy to get weed and what not, but getting caught with it or buying it will also ruin financial aid, government jobs, blah blah blah. Not worth the risk. They could just legalize it, but we all know how that goes.
2013-06-18 07:39:07 AM  
1 votes:
I'll stick with cheesing, thanks.
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2013-06-18 07:37:39 AM  
1 votes:
OMG! Young people are doing this very dangerous thing! No one should EVER do this! Here is a step-by-step process of how to do it.
2013-06-18 07:34:42 AM  
1 votes:
I could almost-but-not-ever see doing this, but not with anything other than everclear as vaporizing an alcohol beverage that has other things in it means some of the other stuff is also being vaporized and inhaling lots of that other stuff into one's lungs might be far worse than just inhaling ethanol.
2013-06-18 07:30:26 AM  
1 votes:
i44.tinypic.com

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2013-06-18 07:21:59 AM  
1 votes:
Reminds me of those side effects for the retarded prescription drugs...

Medication to treat gloucoma may cause blindness or death... I think I rather have bad vision
Depression medication may cause thoughts of suicide or even more severe depression and possibly death...
Dry eye medication may turn your skin black and possibly death
On and on but notice a trend?  All these new retarded medications either makes things worse or kills you...
2013-06-18 07:16:12 AM  
1 votes:
Or, y'know, I could just drink it, like people have been doing for  millennia.
2013-06-18 06:36:20 AM  
1 votes:
I'll stick with jenkum and buttchugging.
2013-06-18 05:23:35 AM  
1 votes:
At this point, I'm pretty comfortable with my beer gut.
2013-06-18 04:26:46 AM  
1 votes:
Stupid kids. We managed it plenty fast drinking punch-tinted everclear poured from pitchers with dry ice in them. The dry ice steam flowing over the table was always a nice touch.

/And in the time before cell phones, it sometimes took days to round up all the survivors
 
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