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2013-06-18 07:46:19 AM  

johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?


Yep it's probably premature ventricular contractions (PVCs). Harmless but suck.

Could be Ateial Fibulation (AFib) which can be VERY dangerous and lead to stroke.

I'd go get it looked at just to make sure.

/Had to quit because of the PVCs
 
2013-06-18 07:51:18 AM  
I've given up most sugar, replaced the lunch chips with (more) veggies and I'm absurdly good about exercise. I think I can keep my 2 cups and not worry about it.

/married to a snorer
//coffee is better than a killin'
 
2013-06-18 07:53:39 AM  
'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.



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Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.
 
2013-06-18 07:54:52 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.


[catmacros.files.wordpress.com image 710x600]

Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.


You sound addicted.
 
2013-06-18 07:55:36 AM  

StaleCoffee: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.


[catmacros.files.wordpress.com image 710x600]

Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.

You sound addicted.


And it is glorious.
 
2013-06-18 07:55:45 AM  
According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.
 
2013-06-18 07:56:30 AM  

Mose: MmmCrime: Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)

Ditto.  I usually have a coffee at work in the morning because we have a Keurig and it gives me an excuse to shoot the breeze with the techs in the break room.  I often don't drink coffee on the weekend because I'm too lazy to clean the french press or I'm leaving early on a bike ride or something.  No noticeable difference.  No withdrawal symptoms.


I've never experienced withdrawl symptoms but I know people who do.  Caffeine isn't like meth where everyone pretty much gets hooked and ends up giving handjobs behind the 7-11 for it.  However, given the number of people I know who are irritable, have headaches or sometimes literally shake if they don't have their coffee, I suspect some level of dependence can occur.  The tone of the article is overblown (but it's the Daily Fail) but I think probably the actual experts quoted just want people to be aware and maybe cut back if they're showing signs.

My major problem is that if I drink coffee on a regular basis it stops picking me up.  I cut back a while ago so that I could actually use it when I needed it.
 
2013-06-18 07:57:00 AM  
Are you enjoying your lunch?

OMFG YOU"RE HOOKED NOW SOMEBODY STOP THEM
 
2013-06-18 07:58:50 AM  
"So, what's bad for people this week?"

*spin*

"Coffee."

"Spin it again.  Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese.  I like coffee."
 
2013-06-18 07:59:22 AM  

Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.


What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?
 
2013-06-18 08:00:58 AM  

YoOjo: Drugs are neither good nor bad, they do not exist.


"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration - that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
 
2013-06-18 08:02:40 AM  

bunner: "Spin it again. Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese. I like coffee."


www.roadfood.com

Not good for you, but oh so good.
 
2013-06-18 08:08:35 AM  
Done in the boobies.
 
2013-06-18 08:11:25 AM  
Wow, what a shiatty article and "experts." Caffeine gives you a boost because it is a stimulant, not because you are addicted. The signs you are addicted are requiring more caffeine to receive that boost, increased consumption of caffeine, and withdrawal symptoms like headaches and irritability if you do not have any caffeine. Useless article was useless.
 
2013-06-18 08:11:43 AM  

xanadian: Everything's bad for you, everything will kill you, you may as well stay curled up under your desk until you starve to death.


HIDING UNDER DESKS IS BAD FOR YOU!  -  film at 10:00
 
2013-06-18 08:12:00 AM  
Taking advice from the Daily Mail? OMG Stop READING It
 
2013-06-18 08:13:40 AM  
Drink it schmink it.  I simply inhale my coffee.  Not that it matters, I'm sure next week those "scientists" will tell us that inhaling coffee is deadly as well.
 
2013-06-18 08:15:11 AM  
Newsflash: Competing studies about the effects of caffeine/cholesterol/fat/glutens/carbs/etc will continue to be released in six-to-nine month cycles. Continue along, as you were....

/the reason the studies differ is, frankly, each study gets a different set of people
//different sets of people will include individuals with different genetic makeups
///different genetic makeups will lead to different abilities to handle whatever particular thing is being studied
////SLASHIES
///some studies will, statistically, get more people who suck at handling, say, caffeine
//others won't
/relax & go about your business. if you don't feel any ill effects, then don't worry. if you are worried, go to the doctor.
 
2013-06-18 08:16:49 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.

What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?


Once you go black you never go back.
 
2013-06-18 08:17:03 AM  
Next they'll be saying that my morning lines are addictive.
 
2013-06-18 08:18:23 AM  

Jim_Callahan: notyomama: What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.

Uh... stimulants used as needed actually have a therapeutic effect.  What TFA is talking about is taking them regularly enough that your neurochemistry adjusts to the regular presence of the substance and produces your normal metabolics on the assumption that the drug is present.  Meaning that, rather than getting a boost when taking the drug at x dosage, your normal function level becomes x dosage, to perk you need 2x, and at 0 you're running low on some neurochemicals.

Not exactly new science on that one.  It's how most stimulants and depressants work, and the most basic form of physiological addiction.

//The nasty ones are heroin and alcohol, since the substances they displace are pretty important so the deficit when the drug is cold-turkeyed away can outright kill you.  Most everything else you'll re-normalize eventually, it won't be pleasant but it'll happen.


Heroin? No. Just no. Yeah you get the chills and nausea and restless legs but no death.

You want death as a withdrawal side effect you've got 2 choices. Alcohol and shiat like Xanax.
 
2013-06-18 08:20:08 AM  
Ill get concerned when I have to jump from drinking energy drinks to snorting ahydrious caffine like its blow.
 
2013-06-18 08:20:20 AM  
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2013-06-18 08:25:32 AM  

Psylence: Jim_Callahan: notyomama: What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.

Uh... stimulants used as needed actually have a therapeutic effect.  What TFA is talking about is taking them regularly enough that your neurochemistry adjusts to the regular presence of the substance and produces your normal metabolics on the assumption that the drug is present.  Meaning that, rather than getting a boost when taking the drug at x dosage, your normal function level becomes x dosage, to perk you need 2x, and at 0 you're running low on some neurochemicals.

Not exactly new science on that one.  It's how most stimulants and depressants work, and the most basic form of physiological addiction.

//The nasty ones are heroin and alcohol, since the substances they displace are pretty important so the deficit when the drug is cold-turkeyed away can outright kill you.  Most everything else you'll re-normalize eventually, it won't be pleasant but it'll happen.

Heroin? No. Just no. Yeah you get the chills and nausea and restless legs but no death.

You want death as a withdrawal side effect you've got 2 choices. Alcohol and shiat like Xanax.


I think you have to be on a pretty high regular dose of any benzo to suffer death from sudden withdrawal.  Like tens of mgs big.
 
2013-06-18 08:28:17 AM  
Cold dead hands...
 
2013-06-18 08:29:43 AM  

tiamet4: Mose: MmmCrime: Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)

Ditto.  I usually have a coffee at work in the morning because we have a Keurig and it gives me an excuse to shoot the breeze with the techs in the break room.  I often don't drink coffee on the weekend because I'm too lazy to clean the french press or I'm leaving early on a bike ride or something.  No noticeable difference.  No withdrawal symptoms.

I've never experienced withdrawl symptoms but I know people who do.  Caffeine isn't like meth where everyone pretty much gets hooked and ends up giving handjobs behind the 7-11 for it.  However, given the number of people I know who are irritable, have headaches or sometimes literally shake if they don't have their coffee, I suspect some level of dependence can occur.  The tone of the article is overblown (but it's the Daily Fail) but I think probably the actual experts quoted just want people to be aware and maybe cut back if they're showing signs.

My major problem is that if I drink coffee on a regular basis it stops picking me up. I cut back a while ago so that I could actually use it when I needed it.


Same for me, although I view that more as a benefit, since I drink coffee for the taste, therefore actually prefer not to get jittery from it.  Definitely agree the article is overblown.
 
2013-06-18 08:34:50 AM  

Deep Contact: God Is My Co-Pirate: Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.

What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?

Once you go black you never go back.


I do indeed like my men like I like my coffee...

Rich, dark and Italian.
 
2013-06-18 08:39:38 AM  
with so many hyper-concentrated, capitalist, american, things and ideas out there to get addicted to, coffee/caffeine is probably a 'healthy addiction' which displaces other, far-worse addictions.
 
2013-06-18 08:41:08 AM  

dopeydwarf: Hooked? Oh fark you. You ever suck dick for coffee?

[gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net image 500x271]


you can get coffee flavored obama now?
 
2013-06-18 08:42:27 AM  
www.behindthevoiceactors.com

"Coffee just like I like my women: black, bitter and preferably fair trade."
 
2013-06-18 08:49:25 AM  
I'll quit coffee when weed is legal.
 
2013-06-18 08:51:17 AM  
UK journalism is garbage, and that's coming from an American.  Eat it.
 
2013-06-18 08:53:18 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.




Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.


I like this guy.
 
2013-06-18 08:55:42 AM  
My doctor told me years ago that I was addicted to caffeine, but since it does not adversely affect my life and it makes me feel good, so what?   Best I can tell, I am also addicted to sex.
 
2013-06-18 08:56:04 AM  
Okay, whatever, Daily Mail.  Gonna go ahead and keep on drinkin' the good stuff right through your breathless reporting.  *ssssssssiiiippppppppp*  AHHHHH.
 
2013-06-18 09:03:27 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

If the point of the article was to get people to stop drinking coffee, they sure picked the wrong picture.
 
2013-06-18 09:05:05 AM  
Yes, yes, Coffee, Cigarettes, Sex, Marijuana, Cocaine, Meth, Driving Fast, etc... is bad for you and you should never do them. In fact you should only work 8 hours a day, sleep 8 hours a day, exercise one hour a day,  eat three hours a day, but only all natural organic vegetables, and drink boiled water. The rest of the time should be spent in quite contemplation and meditation.

In other words live a boring unfulfilled life with no pleasure what so ever.
 
2013-06-18 09:08:06 AM  
A chemical stimulant consumed regularly can lead to mild dependency? This is a major breakthrough.
 
2013-06-18 09:08:28 AM  
from my cold, dead, shaking hands motherf*cker...
 
2013-06-18 09:12:02 AM  

SumoJeb: Give me caffeine or give me death.
/down from 2-3 pots (12-18 cups) per day to 2 cups or one redbull


wow.. One of my girlfriends cut down from three pots a day to one pot a day when she was pregnant with her youngest kid.  I thought she was the only person who drank that much.
 
2013-06-18 09:12:09 AM  

mizchief: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x406]

If the point of the article was to get people to stop drinking coffee, they sure picked the wrong picture.


Now I want white coffee with stawberries.
 
2013-06-18 09:17:38 AM  
This would've been handy to know before I found myself in seedy breakfast joints, licking tables in desperation for that fix.
 
2013-06-18 09:33:50 AM  

Tom_Slick: bunner: "Spin it again. Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese. I like coffee."

[www.roadfood.com image 850x639]

Not good for you, but oh so good.


mustard, on a chili dog?  I like mustard on hot dogs, and I like chili on hot dogs, but to me its one of those "these two things do NOT belong together!" sort of things.

/i want that peach pie
 
2013-06-18 09:42:26 AM  
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking coffee.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-18 09:46:44 AM  

Malky: I used to drink Monsters to wake up and to help with migraines.  I eventually got up to 3 a day, tho I am a big guy.  Once I had some heart/bp problems when I was sick and had little sleep but Im sure it had something to do with energy drinks.  Now I only take caffeine pills which I can more easily dose and doesnt have the more addictive energy drink chems.  Now I dont have any weird hb/bp problems.  Trying to kick energy drinks is much harder than just caffeine.


Thanks for bringing this up. I came in here to say that I really wish, just once, that one of these idiots with the caffeine and the grant money would please study the links between caffeine and neurology/autoimmune stuff a little more closely? I have MS, my mom has osteo- and psoriatic arthritis, and one of my close friends gets chronic cluster migraines, and we all benefit from caffeine when no other pain medication will work. Caffeine for migraines is pretty common knowledge, but why it works - and especially why it also works on autoimmune-yet-neurological things like arthritis, TN, and MS - seems like dark voodoo for some reason.

/and yeah, MS is pretty unknown terrain as well, i know
//about 1L/day of whatever brand of cola/Dr. Pepper is lying about
///with lots of ice
/it's a minor miracle i still have teeth
 
2013-06-18 09:47:40 AM  
I don't drink coffee, but the caffeine in soda doesn't seem to have any effect on me one way or the other any more (if it ever did). I remember as a kid my mom didn't want me having any before bedtime or I wouldn't get to sleep, but doesn't seem like anything stops me from finishing a can of Dew and going right to bed these days.

I do wonder sometimes if I'd notice an effect from cutting out caffeine for a whole week, but haven't had the motivation to try it yet.
 
2013-06-18 09:51:18 AM  
"I'M SUCKING DOWN A HUGE CUP OF SOME SERIOUSLY CRUNCHY BREW AT THE MOMENT SO I'M GETTING A KICK"
 
2013-06-18 09:52:29 AM  
NEVER!

/on 2nd cup, plan to drink more!
 
2013-06-18 09:55:59 AM  
I go through about a pot a day and I confess I do like Bailey's French Vanilla Creamer in it, but I'll bin all of that for a good espresso.  If you're ever in Key West, there's a little  Cuuban sandwich joint in the front of a laundry on White off of Truman that sells bucci, or Cuban pull espresso by the shot.  It is teh jazz.
 
2013-06-18 09:56:38 AM  

SDRR: nmrsnr: Wait, you're supposed to drink your tea in the morning? I thought it was called "teabagging" because you're supposed to dip your balls in it. That always woke me up real quick in the morning.

Iced Tea or Hot Tea?


Depends on the morning. Iced for the quick pick-me-up, hot if I want to feel the effects all day long.
 
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