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2013-06-18 12:16:10 AM
Hooked? Oh fark you. You ever suck dick for coffee?

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2013-06-18 12:23:09 AM
Lies.  That article is a bunch of damn lies. (twitch)
 
2013-06-18 12:41:55 AM
Wait, you're supposed to drink your tea in the morning? I thought it was called "teabagging" because you're supposed to dip your balls in it. That always woke me up real quick in the morning.
 
2013-06-18 12:52:47 AM
Maybe, but I really just drink it because it tastes good with my morning honey bun.
 
2013-06-18 01:24:02 AM
What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.
 
2013-06-18 01:44:58 AM
'People who consume caffeine regularly will become dependent on it - if you take caffeine away from them, they will function below par,'

Then don't take it away. Seriously I WILL CUT YOU!
 
2013-06-18 03:08:23 AM
I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to quit, you assholes.

www.digitaldorm.com
 
2013-06-18 03:39:14 AM
What utter bullshiat. I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes. Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am. The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.


That's ONE cup, not 5 or 6. One cup isn't going to hurt you and the caffeine might actually give you a bit of an edge. I seriously doubt if 1 cup is going to give you withdrawal symptoms. Folks who have 1 cup every morning should not have any adverse effects either. Their 'addiction' is mainly a habit. Like having bacon eggs and toast for breakfast.

I rarely drink coffee because I used to drink a ton of it on one job and discovered it made me jumpy, gave me heart burn, an irregular heart beat and I was still tired. Once in awhile I'll have a cup because it smells so darn good, especially when properly made. (No. Those Mr. Coffee machines do NOT properly make coffee.)

Yeah, high caffeine use will give you miserable headaches for about three days until it gets fully out of your system. Many analgesics like Excedrin have roughly 65 mgm of caffeine per tablet. Pepsi has a ton per serving and I recall folks who couldn't start the day without guzzling down a tumbler of the stuff and Mountain Dew is just packed with it.

I recall, as a kid, waking up alert and refreshed and ready to go in about 5 minutes. By the time I was in my middle twenties I had to guzzle coffee to even think straight in order to get to work. If not, it could take me about an hour to get rid of the brain fog.

I miss that wonderful, boundless energy I had as a kid and the ability to pop awake, fully refreshed and feeling good.

Of course in my 20's I had more responsibilities, a job, bills to pay and often worked long hours so I could not get a full 8 hours sleep.

Any stimulant can become addicting, psychologically or physically. The unhappier you are the more tired you seem and the more you look for energy boosters.
I've run into folks who seem to have everything going for them -- a job they love, sufficient cash, good health, nice family and they bounce out of bed in the morning ready to hit the ground running, without caffeine.

I secretly despise those people.

BTW. The more pressure put on a society, the more they seek out assorted legal or illegal artificial means to ease stress and depression. That can lead to addiction, especially when folks develop mood altering drugs that are nearly instantly addicting both physically and mentally.
 
2013-06-18 06:29:30 AM

notyomama: Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.


Sounds like you clicked on a Daily Fail Mail link. Don't do that if you like actual facts instead of click bait.
 
2013-06-18 06:30:12 AM
Must have 1 cup of strong coffeein the am or else
 
2013-06-18 06:34:06 AM
I drink massive amounts of coffee every day. I never make it at home. I get it at a store. Some days I'm too lazy to go out and get any. On those days I do not have headaches or any other supposed withdrawl syptoms. I call bullshiat
 
2013-06-18 06:35:05 AM
Give me caffeine or give me death.
/down from 2-3 pots (12-18 cups) per day to 2 cups or one redbull
 
2013-06-18 06:36:34 AM
Two words: cold; dead; hands.
 
2013-06-18 06:38:10 AM

Rik01: Any stimulant can become addicting, psychologically or physically. The unhappier you are the more tired you seem and the more you look for energy boosters.
I've run into folks who seem to have everything going for them -- a job they love, sufficient cash, good health, nice family and they bounce out of bed in the morning ready to hit the ground running, without caffeine.

I secretly despise those people.


Yeah... I used to bounce out of bed  quick back when my company got crazy busy and was making me 5 figures a week.  Now... not so much lol.  Depression blows.

/Went bankrupt last year
//Kahlua in MY coffee?  Its more likely than you think.
 
2013-06-18 06:38:19 AM
Rik01: 
Yeah, high caffeine use will give you miserable headaches for about three days until it gets fully out of your system. Many analgesics like Excedrin have roughly 65 mgm of caffeine per tablet. Pepsi has a ton per serving and I recall folks who couldn't start the day without guzzling down a tumbler of the stuff and Mountain Dew is just packed with it.

Pepsi: 38mg/12oz
Mountain Dew: 54mg/12oz

i wouldn't say either of those is a ton. much less than a decent cup of coffee.
 
2013-06-18 06:39:54 AM

notyomama: What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.


Uh... stimulants used as needed actually have a therapeutic effect.  What TFA is talking about is taking them regularly enough that your neurochemistry adjusts to the regular presence of the substance and produces your normal metabolics on the assumption that the drug is present.  Meaning that, rather than getting a boost when taking the drug at x dosage, your normal function level becomes x dosage, to perk you need 2x, and at 0 you're running low on some neurochemicals.

Not exactly new science on that one.  It's how most stimulants and depressants work, and the most basic form of physiological addiction.

//The nasty ones are heroin and alcohol, since the substances they displace are pretty important so the deficit when the drug is cold-turkeyed away can outright kill you.  Most everything else you'll re-normalize eventually, it won't be pleasant but it'll happen.
 
2013-06-18 06:40:31 AM
So because I'm hooked, I should stop? That doesn't even make sense.
 
2013-06-18 06:41:22 AM
If you drink a Starbuck's coffee and don't feel any strong caffeine effects...you're probably dead, Jim.
 
2013-06-18 06:45:19 AM
So I should administer it intravenously or...?
 
2013-06-18 06:48:18 AM
I just splash it on my face these days.
 
2013-06-18 06:48:56 AM
Coffee and caffeine aren't real, like any other drug they are figments of our collective imagination designed by the marketers of the ruling class, deceiving us into a placebo effect feeling of wellness and happiness.
We may as well start the day with a steaming cup of pure LSD, it's about as likely to be real as that $5 milk and water concoction you have in a death-grip.
Drugs are neither good nor bad, they do not exist.
 
2013-06-18 06:49:26 AM
Apparently third rate professors with an axe to grind are "experts" that we should "listen to."

Based on one study constructed so as to support this twerp's self-righteous bullshiat... I can't wait until the health fascists grab onto this bone.
 
2013-06-18 06:49:43 AM

SumoJeb: Give me caffeine or give me death.


Points an expresso machine at or in the direction of SumoJeb.
 
2013-06-18 06:52:25 AM
Just hook it to my veins!
 
2013-06-18 06:52:27 AM
Aw geez, not this shiat again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

Keep your damn hands off my morning coffee.
 
2013-06-18 07:00:13 AM
Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?
 
2013-06-18 07:01:00 AM

notyomama: Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am. The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.


The boost is there because there's something to boost from.  As TFA notes, caffeine doesn't hop you up so much as prevent you from slowing down, which is what you're body's wired to do at night.  At high doses you get the side effects like loss of motor control, which people confuse with overstimulation.  The rest is just the placebo effect.

I know full well caffeine doesn't improve my focus.  It keeps it there because I start my shifts at 6 AM when my circadian rhythm is still going "OMG WTF HUH?".  At the end of the week I abstain from caffeine as much as possible to "detox" so I don't rapidly build up tolerance.  Back when I was doing design engineering that wasn't an option -- it was easier to count the hours I wasn't at work -- so my dosage steadily increased.  The first hit of caffeine was basically just to get back up to baseline.

/ I need to get brighter lights
 
2013-06-18 07:02:31 AM

YoOjo: Coffee and caffeine aren't real, like any other drug they are figments of our collective imagination designed by the marketers of the ruling class, deceiving us into a placebo effect feeling of wellness and happiness.
We may as well start the day with a steaming cup of pure LSD, it's about as likely to be real as that $5 milk and water concoction you have in a death-grip.
Drugs are neither good nor bad, they do not exist.


There is no spoon copper top?
 
2013-06-18 07:03:02 AM
So, my morning cup of rum is still good, right?
 
2013-06-18 07:03:19 AM
I started drinking coffee because it perked me up.  So unless I came back from the future and took control over my earlier body, I couldn't be addicted to coffee before drinking the first cup, which did indeed perk me up.
 
2013-06-18 07:05:55 AM
Everything's bad for you, everything will kill you, you may as well stay curled up under your desk until you starve to death.
 
2013-06-18 07:10:14 AM
After a while, these types of articles start to sound more and more shrill to me.
 
2013-06-18 07:13:47 AM

nmrsnr: Wait, you're supposed to drink your tea in the morning? I thought it was called "teabagging" because you're supposed to dip your balls in it. That always woke me up real quick in the morning.


Iced Tea or Hot Tea?
 
2013-06-18 07:14:43 AM
I used to drink Monsters to wake up and to help with migraines.  I eventually got up to 3 a day, tho I am a big guy.  Once I had some heart/bp problems when I was sick and had little sleep but Im sure it had something to do with energy drinks.  Now I only take caffeine pills which I can more easily dose and doesnt have the more addictive energy drink chems.  Now I dont have any weird hb/bp problems.  Trying to kick energy drinks is much harder than just caffeine.
 
2013-06-18 07:15:33 AM

xanadian: Everything's bad for you, everything will kill you, you may as well stay curled up under your desk until you starve to death.


Under? The bosses wont like that. You curl up at your keyboard and spreadsheet until you fall out! We're not paying you a pittance for nothing!
 
2013-06-18 07:18:16 AM
I don't know about you people, but I'm addicted. One cup is sufficient to keep the headache at bay, but if I miss that cup it isn't a dull headache. Ouch.

/my only real addiction
 
2013-06-18 07:19:04 AM
Caffeine is definitely addictive and can be harmful in large quantities but kicking that wasn't shiat next to kicking a 20 year smoking habit.
 
2013-06-18 07:21:16 AM
I drink a large coffee in the morning and a single small cup at 10:00 on every day that i go to work.  If that's wrong then I don't really want to be right.
 
2013-06-18 07:21:31 AM
Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)
 
2013-06-18 07:24:17 AM
I drink 5 or 6 cups of tea daily: breakfast, morning and afternoon tea, lunch and in the evening, and it has its own paraphanalia and rituals around it. I'm as happy as anyone to throw a tea bag in a cup and brew my beverage, but if I have time I carefully measure out some leaf tea into an infuser and slowly and carefully prepare it, selecting a Darjeeling one day, an Earl Grey another. I find even budget brands of leaf tea have a stronger flavour than their bagged counterparts. I do find it refreshing and it can give me a chance to pause and contemplate the day ahead. As vices go it's a pretty weak one.
 
2013-06-18 07:25:17 AM

ChubbyTiger: I don't know about you people, but I'm addicted. One cup is sufficient to keep the headache at bay, but if I miss that cup it isn't a dull headache. Ouch.

/my only real addiction


I need two cups before noon to survive.  If I don't get them, I know I'll be in bed by 6pm writhing in pain from a headache.
 
2013-06-18 07:26:27 AM
I drink 10 to 12 cups of coffee a day 4 days a week and don't have any the 3 days I am off. Of course, coffee doesn't "pick me up" or keep me awake so this article may not include me. Besides all that, who cares. If you don't have a physical problem that caffeine aggravates then stay perked up.
 
2013-06-18 07:28:43 AM

MmmCrime: Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)


Ditto.  I usually have a coffee at work in the morning because we have a Keurig and it gives me an excuse to shoot the breeze with the techs in the break room.  I often don't drink coffee on the weekend because I'm too lazy to clean the french press or I'm leaving early on a bike ride or something.  No noticeable difference.  No withdrawal symptoms.
 
2013-06-18 07:34:23 AM
No more than 100 cups a day. It's just common sense, people.

Any less and the janitorial staff starts whining about the staff entrails littering the hallways.
 
2013-06-18 07:38:58 AM
Must have Coffee or people will die, that is all.
 
2013-06-18 07:41:05 AM
Dunkin' Donuts is my dealer. He's on most street corners.
 
2013-06-18 07:42:44 AM

stirfrybry: I drink massive amounts of coffee every day. I never make it at home. I get it at a store. Some days I'm too lazy to go out and get any. On those days I do not have headaches or any other supposed withdrawl syptoms. I call bullshiat


Takes a couple days. At least it did for me. Massive headaches and fits of anxiety.....worst week ever.

Now I can have a cup of regular or a Coke if I'm in a pinch for a flavored drink, but more than one and the headache the next day blows.
 
2013-06-18 07:43:25 AM
"Top scientists" reveal that "reading" the Daily Mail may give you "cancer".

/preparing myself for the glut of Daily Fail links we seem to get every so often.
//Also, oblig
 
2013-06-18 07:44:36 AM
I will stab you in the throat.
 
2013-06-18 07:45:33 AM
i'm drinking coffee right now

/drink drink
 
2013-06-18 07:46:19 AM

johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?


Yep it's probably premature ventricular contractions (PVCs). Harmless but suck.

Could be Ateial Fibulation (AFib) which can be VERY dangerous and lead to stroke.

I'd go get it looked at just to make sure.

/Had to quit because of the PVCs
 
2013-06-18 07:51:18 AM
I've given up most sugar, replaced the lunch chips with (more) veggies and I'm absurdly good about exercise. I think I can keep my 2 cups and not worry about it.

/married to a snorer
//coffee is better than a killin'
 
2013-06-18 07:53:39 AM
'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.



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Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.
 
2013-06-18 07:54:52 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.


[catmacros.files.wordpress.com image 710x600]

Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.


You sound addicted.
 
2013-06-18 07:55:36 AM

StaleCoffee: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.


[catmacros.files.wordpress.com image 710x600]

Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.

You sound addicted.


And it is glorious.
 
2013-06-18 07:55:45 AM
According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.
 
2013-06-18 07:56:30 AM

Mose: MmmCrime: Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)

Ditto.  I usually have a coffee at work in the morning because we have a Keurig and it gives me an excuse to shoot the breeze with the techs in the break room.  I often don't drink coffee on the weekend because I'm too lazy to clean the french press or I'm leaving early on a bike ride or something.  No noticeable difference.  No withdrawal symptoms.


I've never experienced withdrawl symptoms but I know people who do.  Caffeine isn't like meth where everyone pretty much gets hooked and ends up giving handjobs behind the 7-11 for it.  However, given the number of people I know who are irritable, have headaches or sometimes literally shake if they don't have their coffee, I suspect some level of dependence can occur.  The tone of the article is overblown (but it's the Daily Fail) but I think probably the actual experts quoted just want people to be aware and maybe cut back if they're showing signs.

My major problem is that if I drink coffee on a regular basis it stops picking me up.  I cut back a while ago so that I could actually use it when I needed it.
 
2013-06-18 07:57:00 AM
Are you enjoying your lunch?

OMFG YOU"RE HOOKED NOW SOMEBODY STOP THEM
 
2013-06-18 07:58:50 AM
"So, what's bad for people this week?"

*spin*

"Coffee."

"Spin it again.  Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese.  I like coffee."
 
2013-06-18 07:59:22 AM

Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.


What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?
 
2013-06-18 08:00:58 AM

YoOjo: Drugs are neither good nor bad, they do not exist.


"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration - that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
 
2013-06-18 08:02:40 AM

bunner: "Spin it again. Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese. I like coffee."


www.roadfood.com

Not good for you, but oh so good.
 
2013-06-18 08:08:35 AM
Done in the boobies.
 
2013-06-18 08:11:25 AM
Wow, what a shiatty article and "experts." Caffeine gives you a boost because it is a stimulant, not because you are addicted. The signs you are addicted are requiring more caffeine to receive that boost, increased consumption of caffeine, and withdrawal symptoms like headaches and irritability if you do not have any caffeine. Useless article was useless.
 
2013-06-18 08:11:43 AM

xanadian: Everything's bad for you, everything will kill you, you may as well stay curled up under your desk until you starve to death.


HIDING UNDER DESKS IS BAD FOR YOU!  -  film at 10:00
 
2013-06-18 08:12:00 AM
Taking advice from the Daily Mail? OMG Stop READING It
 
2013-06-18 08:13:40 AM
Drink it schmink it.  I simply inhale my coffee.  Not that it matters, I'm sure next week those "scientists" will tell us that inhaling coffee is deadly as well.
 
2013-06-18 08:15:11 AM
Newsflash: Competing studies about the effects of caffeine/cholesterol/fat/glutens/carbs/etc will continue to be released in six-to-nine month cycles. Continue along, as you were....

/the reason the studies differ is, frankly, each study gets a different set of people
//different sets of people will include individuals with different genetic makeups
///different genetic makeups will lead to different abilities to handle whatever particular thing is being studied
////SLASHIES
///some studies will, statistically, get more people who suck at handling, say, caffeine
//others won't
/relax & go about your business. if you don't feel any ill effects, then don't worry. if you are worried, go to the doctor.
 
2013-06-18 08:16:49 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.

What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?


Once you go black you never go back.
 
2013-06-18 08:17:03 AM
Next they'll be saying that my morning lines are addictive.
 
2013-06-18 08:18:23 AM

Jim_Callahan: notyomama: What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.

Uh... stimulants used as needed actually have a therapeutic effect.  What TFA is talking about is taking them regularly enough that your neurochemistry adjusts to the regular presence of the substance and produces your normal metabolics on the assumption that the drug is present.  Meaning that, rather than getting a boost when taking the drug at x dosage, your normal function level becomes x dosage, to perk you need 2x, and at 0 you're running low on some neurochemicals.

Not exactly new science on that one.  It's how most stimulants and depressants work, and the most basic form of physiological addiction.

//The nasty ones are heroin and alcohol, since the substances they displace are pretty important so the deficit when the drug is cold-turkeyed away can outright kill you.  Most everything else you'll re-normalize eventually, it won't be pleasant but it'll happen.


Heroin? No. Just no. Yeah you get the chills and nausea and restless legs but no death.

You want death as a withdrawal side effect you've got 2 choices. Alcohol and shiat like Xanax.
 
2013-06-18 08:20:08 AM
Ill get concerned when I have to jump from drinking energy drinks to snorting ahydrious caffine like its blow.
 
2013-06-18 08:20:20 AM
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2013-06-18 08:25:32 AM

Psylence: Jim_Callahan: notyomama: What utter bullshiat.  I was off of caffeine for 3 years because it made me more prone to atrial fibrillation episodes.  Recently I started working 3rd shift so I started drinking 1 cup of regular coffee to get me through from midnight to 5 am.  The boost is definitely there and you can't tell me it's because of addiction.

//Sounds like these "experts" are just trying to justify their grant money.

Uh... stimulants used as needed actually have a therapeutic effect.  What TFA is talking about is taking them regularly enough that your neurochemistry adjusts to the regular presence of the substance and produces your normal metabolics on the assumption that the drug is present.  Meaning that, rather than getting a boost when taking the drug at x dosage, your normal function level becomes x dosage, to perk you need 2x, and at 0 you're running low on some neurochemicals.

Not exactly new science on that one.  It's how most stimulants and depressants work, and the most basic form of physiological addiction.

//The nasty ones are heroin and alcohol, since the substances they displace are pretty important so the deficit when the drug is cold-turkeyed away can outright kill you.  Most everything else you'll re-normalize eventually, it won't be pleasant but it'll happen.

Heroin? No. Just no. Yeah you get the chills and nausea and restless legs but no death.

You want death as a withdrawal side effect you've got 2 choices. Alcohol and shiat like Xanax.


I think you have to be on a pretty high regular dose of any benzo to suffer death from sudden withdrawal.  Like tens of mgs big.
 
2013-06-18 08:28:17 AM
Cold dead hands...
 
2013-06-18 08:29:43 AM

tiamet4: Mose: MmmCrime: Calling BS. Is it a caffeine pick me up? Yes. But I have one coffee a day during the week, and can go several days without it if I don't have time to pick it up. It isn't like I get headaches like my fiancee (She's totally addicted)

Ditto.  I usually have a coffee at work in the morning because we have a Keurig and it gives me an excuse to shoot the breeze with the techs in the break room.  I often don't drink coffee on the weekend because I'm too lazy to clean the french press or I'm leaving early on a bike ride or something.  No noticeable difference.  No withdrawal symptoms.

I've never experienced withdrawl symptoms but I know people who do.  Caffeine isn't like meth where everyone pretty much gets hooked and ends up giving handjobs behind the 7-11 for it.  However, given the number of people I know who are irritable, have headaches or sometimes literally shake if they don't have their coffee, I suspect some level of dependence can occur.  The tone of the article is overblown (but it's the Daily Fail) but I think probably the actual experts quoted just want people to be aware and maybe cut back if they're showing signs.

My major problem is that if I drink coffee on a regular basis it stops picking me up. I cut back a while ago so that I could actually use it when I needed it.


Same for me, although I view that more as a benefit, since I drink coffee for the taste, therefore actually prefer not to get jittery from it.  Definitely agree the article is overblown.
 
2013-06-18 08:34:50 AM

Deep Contact: God Is My Co-Pirate: Deep Contact: According to Edgar Cayce, coffee is actually healthy until you add stuff to it, ... 5-6 large cups of strong fresh black coffee will have no adverse effects on the body.

What, and somehow a spoonful of milk turns the coffee into TEH EVILZ?

Once you go black you never go back.


I do indeed like my men like I like my coffee...

Rich, dark and Italian.
 
2013-06-18 08:39:38 AM
with so many hyper-concentrated, capitalist, american, things and ideas out there to get addicted to, coffee/caffeine is probably a 'healthy addiction' which displaces other, far-worse addictions.
 
2013-06-18 08:41:08 AM

dopeydwarf: Hooked? Oh fark you. You ever suck dick for coffee?

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you can get coffee flavored obama now?
 
2013-06-18 08:42:27 AM
www.behindthevoiceactors.com

"Coffee just like I like my women: black, bitter and preferably fair trade."
 
2013-06-18 08:49:25 AM
I'll quit coffee when weed is legal.
 
2013-06-18 08:51:17 AM
UK journalism is garbage, and that's coming from an American.  Eat it.
 
2013-06-18 08:53:18 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.




Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.


I like this guy.
 
2013-06-18 08:55:42 AM
My doctor told me years ago that I was addicted to caffeine, but since it does not adversely affect my life and it makes me feel good, so what?   Best I can tell, I am also addicted to sex.
 
2013-06-18 08:56:04 AM
Okay, whatever, Daily Mail.  Gonna go ahead and keep on drinkin' the good stuff right through your breathless reporting.  *ssssssssiiiippppppppp*  AHHHHH.
 
2013-06-18 09:03:27 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

If the point of the article was to get people to stop drinking coffee, they sure picked the wrong picture.
 
2013-06-18 09:05:05 AM
Yes, yes, Coffee, Cigarettes, Sex, Marijuana, Cocaine, Meth, Driving Fast, etc... is bad for you and you should never do them. In fact you should only work 8 hours a day, sleep 8 hours a day, exercise one hour a day,  eat three hours a day, but only all natural organic vegetables, and drink boiled water. The rest of the time should be spent in quite contemplation and meditation.

In other words live a boring unfulfilled life with no pleasure what so ever.
 
2013-06-18 09:08:06 AM
A chemical stimulant consumed regularly can lead to mild dependency? This is a major breakthrough.
 
2013-06-18 09:08:28 AM
from my cold, dead, shaking hands motherf*cker...
 
2013-06-18 09:12:02 AM

SumoJeb: Give me caffeine or give me death.
/down from 2-3 pots (12-18 cups) per day to 2 cups or one redbull


wow.. One of my girlfriends cut down from three pots a day to one pot a day when she was pregnant with her youngest kid.  I thought she was the only person who drank that much.
 
2013-06-18 09:12:09 AM

mizchief: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x406]

If the point of the article was to get people to stop drinking coffee, they sure picked the wrong picture.


Now I want white coffee with stawberries.
 
2013-06-18 09:17:38 AM
This would've been handy to know before I found myself in seedy breakfast joints, licking tables in desperation for that fix.
 
2013-06-18 09:33:50 AM

Tom_Slick: bunner: "Spin it again. Maybe it'll land on hot dogs or cheese. I like coffee."

[www.roadfood.com image 850x639]

Not good for you, but oh so good.


mustard, on a chili dog?  I like mustard on hot dogs, and I like chili on hot dogs, but to me its one of those "these two things do NOT belong together!" sort of things.

/i want that peach pie
 
2013-06-18 09:42:26 AM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking coffee.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-18 09:46:44 AM

Malky: I used to drink Monsters to wake up and to help with migraines.  I eventually got up to 3 a day, tho I am a big guy.  Once I had some heart/bp problems when I was sick and had little sleep but Im sure it had something to do with energy drinks.  Now I only take caffeine pills which I can more easily dose and doesnt have the more addictive energy drink chems.  Now I dont have any weird hb/bp problems.  Trying to kick energy drinks is much harder than just caffeine.


Thanks for bringing this up. I came in here to say that I really wish, just once, that one of these idiots with the caffeine and the grant money would please study the links between caffeine and neurology/autoimmune stuff a little more closely? I have MS, my mom has osteo- and psoriatic arthritis, and one of my close friends gets chronic cluster migraines, and we all benefit from caffeine when no other pain medication will work. Caffeine for migraines is pretty common knowledge, but why it works - and especially why it also works on autoimmune-yet-neurological things like arthritis, TN, and MS - seems like dark voodoo for some reason.

/and yeah, MS is pretty unknown terrain as well, i know
//about 1L/day of whatever brand of cola/Dr. Pepper is lying about
///with lots of ice
/it's a minor miracle i still have teeth
 
2013-06-18 09:47:40 AM
I don't drink coffee, but the caffeine in soda doesn't seem to have any effect on me one way or the other any more (if it ever did). I remember as a kid my mom didn't want me having any before bedtime or I wouldn't get to sleep, but doesn't seem like anything stops me from finishing a can of Dew and going right to bed these days.

I do wonder sometimes if I'd notice an effect from cutting out caffeine for a whole week, but haven't had the motivation to try it yet.
 
2013-06-18 09:51:18 AM
"I'M SUCKING DOWN A HUGE CUP OF SOME SERIOUSLY CRUNCHY BREW AT THE MOMENT SO I'M GETTING A KICK"
 
2013-06-18 09:52:29 AM
NEVER!

/on 2nd cup, plan to drink more!
 
2013-06-18 09:55:59 AM
I go through about a pot a day and I confess I do like Bailey's French Vanilla Creamer in it, but I'll bin all of that for a good espresso.  If you're ever in Key West, there's a little  Cuuban sandwich joint in the front of a laundry on White off of Truman that sells bucci, or Cuban pull espresso by the shot.  It is teh jazz.
 
2013-06-18 09:56:38 AM

SDRR: nmrsnr: Wait, you're supposed to drink your tea in the morning? I thought it was called "teabagging" because you're supposed to dip your balls in it. That always woke me up real quick in the morning.

Iced Tea or Hot Tea?


Depends on the morning. Iced for the quick pick-me-up, hot if I want to feel the effects all day long.
 
2013-06-18 09:58:22 AM
www.officialpsds.com

You are out of your damn mind.

/hot like my coffee
 
2013-06-18 09:59:49 AM

Burr: [www.behindthevoiceactors.com image 210x240]

"Coffee just like I like my women:

ground up and in the freezer."

FTFM.

/No taste in coffee.
//Or women.
 
2013-06-18 10:00:52 AM
I like my coffee like I like my women, hot, sweet and creamy and with a spoon in them.
 
2013-06-18 10:02:05 AM
Burr: Coffee just like I like my women: black, bitter and preferably fair trade.

hot, cheap, and available at the 7-11
 
2013-06-18 10:02:37 AM
Adrenal fatigueeeeeee
 
2013-06-18 10:05:29 AM

dopekitty74: i want that peach pie


That is the best thing on the menu at the Varsity, you can even get it Ala-mode.
 
2013-06-18 10:05:43 AM
bah. moderation is the key. i only have 3 cups of coffee a day.

whydontihavethis.com
 
2013-06-18 10:38:52 AM
People doing things that make life bearable?

Someone stop them!
 
2013-06-18 10:46:41 AM
I'm a casual coffe drinker. once a week maybe... and the only reason that i do that at all is because of the definite pick-me-up that it gives me. Once a week is hardly enough to delveop an addiciton to it, and the alertness is defintely real.
 
2013-06-18 10:50:29 AM

Tom_Slick: dopekitty74: i want that peach pie

That is the best thing on the menu at the Varsity, you can even get it Ala-mode.


OMG drool... I'm not even a huge fan of eating peaches or much of anything else with peaches in them, but peach pie is special :)
 
2013-06-18 11:05:59 AM

johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?


Yes, I had to give up caffeine because I began to have P.A.Cs (Premature Atrial Contractions). Let's put it this way, if you have never had a panic attack, the first time you feel a P.A.C., you will most certainly experience one.
 
2013-06-18 11:14:16 AM
TAKE MY COFE AND I WIL GUT YOU

/sorry, haven't had my first cup yet
//I promise to type better after the third
 
2013-06-18 11:19:37 AM

The Bananadragon: Thanks for bringing this up. I came in here to say that I really wish, just once, that one of these idiots with the caffeine and the grant money would please study the links between caffeine and neurology/autoimmune stuff a little more closely? I have MS, my mom has osteo- and psoriatic arthritis, and one of my close friends gets chronic cluster migraines, and we all benefit from caffeine when no other pain medication will work. Caffeine for migraines is pretty common knowledge, but why it works - and especially why it also works on autoimmune-yet-neurological things like arthritis, TN, and MS - seems like dark voodoo for some reason.

/and yeah, MS is pretty unknown terrain as well, i know
//about 1L/day of whatever brand of cola/Dr. Pepper is lying about
///with lots of ice
/it's a minor miracle i still have teeth


My wife gets the migranes and coffee helps a ton.

I LOVE pop on ice -- like i fill my glass with an entire tray of icecubes and then pour in the pop. I dont know wether its the cold or that the ice thins out the overwhelmiong sweetness but omg icy pop is the best. With a galliano shot floated ontop? hells yeah.

regular un-iced soda tastes like syrup to me. Its thick and really sugary.
 
2013-06-18 11:22:59 AM
Also -- if you love coffee you gotta get an Aeropress --

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That thing only makes a bit but its soooo good. And it barely requires any cleaning.
 
2013-06-18 11:30:48 AM

Plissken: Two words: cold; dead; hands.


I think you need another cup of coffee.
 
2013-06-18 11:38:52 AM

mafiageek1980: NEVER!

/on 2nd cup, plan to drink more!


I think you need a bigger mug
 
2013-06-18 11:54:54 AM
A very recent bout of acute pancreatitis forced me to cut out both coffee AND alcohol for awhile. And while I seriously miss having a beer or a cocktail, it was the thought of no coffee whatsoever that panicked me to no end.

After about a month I started having a cup of coffee a day...it was heaven. Then I got cocky about it and started having more and that was compounded by the fact that I am still not eating a whole lot. Bang...another attack. So off the coffee again for a week and literally dreaming about a trip to Dunkin' Donuts at night. Considering that all that I really drink is water, coffee and alcohol this has put a serious crimp in my lifestyle...
 
2013-06-18 11:56:21 AM

Plissken: Two words: cold; dead; hands.


That's three words.
 
2013-06-18 12:08:48 PM
Needs IRONIC tag because hot tea + Brit fishwrap.

/feeling rather MAUGish this morning
//gonna go brew me some tea
 
2013-06-18 12:22:04 PM
I used to have daily headaches all my life before i started drinking coffee.. the coffee cured it. so Coffee is awsome.... It also cured my constipation! :D
 
2013-06-18 01:28:29 PM
#yolo
 
2013-06-18 01:28:44 PM
ii nkoww howt much cfffee is too much foffee.

i cnan quit atnytim.e/.
 
2013-06-18 01:42:41 PM
From TFA:

Another recent study by Professor Rogers involving 300 volunteers found coffee doesn't increase alertness, concentration or reaction time, but it will keep you awake.

I'd certainly say my alertness, concentration, and reaction time is significantly better when I'm awake vs when I'm asleep....
 
2013-06-18 02:10:09 PM
For those still lurking in the thread, I present to you Coffee: The Greatest Addiction Ever

Also, coffee is responsible for the enlightenment period of the 1600s so suck it haters.
 
2013-06-18 02:16:59 PM
Before I got laid off, I would drink a pot before I even left the house and another half pot on the drive in.  Typically didnt drink much more coffee until the end of the day.

Touch my Coffee and I will gut you with the other pot after I finish it.
 
2013-06-18 03:37:52 PM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: 'They just don't function normally without the drug on board. If it's your first tea or coffee of the day, it gets you back to normal, but beyond that you don't get much more of a kick.'
Professor Rogers has studied coffee and its effects for more than 20 years and, as a result, he and other members of his team have given up caffeine.
'On balance, caffeine is not particularly helpful. It triggers withdrawal and increases your blood pressure, which is not a good thing,' he says.


[catmacros.files.wordpress.com image 710x600]

Okay, Sparky.  Let me 'splain a few things to you.

I love my caffeine. I love my coffee, my tea, my chocolate-covered coffee beans.  Caffeine is the last thing I cherish on this gottforsaken shiatball.  The people around me are still alive solely because the sweet elixir transforms me back into something vaguely resembling a human being, capable of higher reasoning skills beyond SMIRKY SMASH.  Without it, I will become something less than human.  And, oh yes, there will be blood.  And screaming.  And death.  It will not be pretty.

Yes, I will choke a biatch.  I will kill you, skin you and sew your flabby, pallid skin into a hat and coat fit for a hobo before I give up my caffeine.


I came here to say "not from my cold, dead, twitching fingers".  I would be honored to sign up for your newsletter, even though I am not worthy.
 
2013-06-18 03:47:43 PM

Beerguy: johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?

Yes, I had to give up caffeine because I began to have P.A.Cs (Premature Atrial Contractions). Let's put it this way, if you have never had a panic attack, the first time you feel a P.A.C., you will most certainly experience one.


Is that where your heart feels like it adds in an extra beat... then goes back to normal? Can go on like that for days? I've definitely had odd heartbeat issues although no one has ever been able to determine why...
ADD meds seemed to make that happen WAAAAAAY more often than coffee, etc.
 
2013-06-18 04:42:04 PM

Psylence: Beerguy: johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?

Yes, I had to give up caffeine because I began to have P.A.Cs (Premature Atrial Contractions). Let's put it this way, if you have never had a panic attack, the first time you feel a P.A.C., you will most certainly experience one.

Is that where your heart feels like it adds in an extra beat... then goes back to normal? Can go on like that for days? I've definitely had odd heartbeat issues although no one has ever been able to determine why...
ADD meds seemed to make that happen WAAAAAAY more often than coffee, etc.


I used to also get it when I would take ephedrine, caffeine pills and aspirin.
 
2013-06-18 04:45:01 PM

Psylence: Beerguy: johnnyboog: Recently, my heart has been skipping beats. I attribute this to copious amounts of caffeine. I get really bad withdrawal if I don't drink coffee or an energy drink. Yes, I have now given up energy drinks. Has anyone else had this heart issue?

Yes, I had to give up caffeine because I began to have P.A.Cs (Premature Atrial Contractions). Let's put it this way, if you have never had a panic attack, the first time you feel a P.A.C., you will most certainly experience one.

Is that where your heart feels like it adds in an extra beat... then goes back to normal? Can go on like that for days? I've definitely had odd heartbeat issues although no one has ever been able to determine why...
ADD meds seemed to make that happen WAAAAAAY more often than coffee, etc.


Yes, it sucks.
 
2013-06-18 09:53:02 PM
Four or five colleagues have given up caffeine, and we're all on decaf.

Newsflash: decaf still has caffeine in it.
 
2013-06-19 01:33:19 PM
*shares coffee with Smirky*
 
2013-06-19 02:50:46 PM

mikefinch: Also -- if you love coffee you gotta get an Aeropress --




That thing only makes a bit but its soooo good. And it barely requires any cleaning.


Ah, but quantity matters to caffeine junkies. Anything smaller than my 15oz French press in the morning, and... well, I have to settle for the weak-ass Keurig machine at work.
 
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