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(Talking Points Memo)   In his dissent in today's Arizona voter ruling, Justice Clarence Thomas cited Bush v. Gore - a case that was supposed to be "limited to the present circumstances"   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 51
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2013-06-17 06:38:16 PM
4 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Are you a corporate executive facing these or other charges? You don't need double talk! You need Bob Loblaw! After all, why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?


That's a low blow, Loblaw!
2013-06-17 11:39:44 PM
3 votes:
CSB:

I just went outside, where my dad is digging up some blackberries out of the fenceline.  I said "who is the dumbest supreme court justice in history?"  Without the slightest bit of hesitation he said "Clarence Thomas".

He did remind me that this would no longer be true had Harriet Miers been confirmed.
2013-06-17 08:35:40 PM
3 votes:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to pen a really stupid dissenting opinion and remove all doubt
2013-06-17 08:18:48 PM
3 votes:
Some scholars have argued that the lack of Supreme Court citation of the major case is evidence that it was based on shoddy legal reasoning.

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2013-06-17 07:56:14 PM
3 votes:
Is that the guy that put pubes on a can of Coke and married a white woman? It's been so long, I can't remember.
2013-06-18 03:37:38 AM
2 votes:

armoredbulldozer: cameroncrazy1984: I can't believe this guy made it to the Supreme Court. He's awful.

At least he is a bona fide judge, Kagan is not.  He isn't a racist, Sotomayor is.  They need to get away from case law and use that Constitution thingy they keep forgetting about.....like when they dropped the ball on the unAffordable Care Act.


Only 244 characters and 44 words, yet 200-proof Freeper/Fox talking-points derp. It's like absinthe-strength right-wing Kool-Aid in written form.
2013-06-18 01:18:34 AM
2 votes:
Clarence Thomas is terrible at his job?

It's not news, it's Fark.com.
2013-06-18 12:53:06 AM
2 votes:

YoungSwedishBlonde: Hollie Maea: CSB:

I just went outside, where my dad is digging up some blackberries out of the fenceline.  I said "who is the dumbest supreme court justice in history?"  Without the slightest bit of hesitation he said "Clarence Thomas".

He did remind me that this would no longer be true had Harriet Miers been confirmed.

Please don't bring that name up again. Thanks.


I think she would have been a great justice. It would be like a scientific control against which you measure all other justices against a known value of zero.
2013-06-17 11:24:36 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: Hollie Maea: Thomas is easily the most stupid justice the court has ever seen.  Probably not the worst. But definitely the most stupid.

Okay. Show your work. Exactly how did you reach this conclusion?


I thought about the various justices we have had on the Supreme Court.  Then I thought about Clarence Thomas.  Then I noticed that he was far more stupid than any of the others.

It was his lack of intellect, I think, that really tipped me off.  I don't suppose that you would have noticed that, though.
2013-06-17 11:07:38 PM
2 votes:

king of vegas: Alphakronik: Thomas can eat a bag of dicks.

Party at my house the day he either retires or dies.


will there be bags of dicks in the mashed potatoes?
2013-06-17 10:47:13 PM
2 votes:

theorellior: cman: Why do people think that if Gore was President 9/11 would not have happened?

He wouldn't have dismantled Clinton's intelligence teams and actually would have read his Presidential Daily Briefings?


I don't know if he would actually have read them all, but at least he would have been capable of reading them.
2013-06-17 08:52:02 PM
2 votes:
It would have really sucked if Gore was appointed instead of Bush. We would have probably had those two pesky towers, two countries would have been left un-invaded. Our glorious Patriot Act would be but a dream.
2013-06-17 08:21:03 PM
2 votes:

timujin: ecmoRandomNumbers: How did Black Mr. Potatohead ever get nominated? I don't get it. Bob Loblaw would've been a better pick.

Are you a corporate executive facing these or other charges? You don't need double talk! You need Bob Loblaw! After all, why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?

Black Mr. Potatohead?
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He needs his ANGRY eyes.
2013-06-17 06:33:37 PM
2 votes:
Has anyone called him an uncle tom yet?
2013-06-17 06:25:38 PM
2 votes:
P.S.: Almost all justices don't write their own decisions, their clerks do it for them.

Headline should read "Justice Thomas's clerk cites  Bush v. Gore."
2013-06-17 06:25:08 PM
2 votes:
How did Black Mr. Potatohead ever get nominated? I don't get it. Bob Loblaw would've been a better pick.

Are you a corporate executive facing these or other charges? You don't need double talk! You need Bob Loblaw! After all, why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?
2013-06-17 06:20:52 PM
2 votes:
Oh yeah! Fire up the lawsuits, every election can be contested now.
2013-06-17 06:08:10 PM
2 votes:
When you think about it, aren't all circumstances current circumstances?
2013-06-18 04:40:29 AM
1 votes:
This thread is hilarious, but it's too spread out.  I'll summarize:

"Clarence Thomas is a moron!!!!"

Are you sure you're not just saying that because you're a low-information Democrat?

"No, he is a genuine moron!!!"

Excluding the current bench, can you name two other Justices you consider to be subpar?

"This isn't a history class!!  I don't need to know that to know Thomas is a moron!"

Are there opinions which you think offer evidence of this?

"I don't read that stuff!  Just look at how often he is the PUPPET of Antonin Scalia!"

That's not true either.

"Whatever NEOCON."
2013-06-18 03:40:02 AM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: I can't believe this guy made it to the Supreme Court. He's awful.


He's a muppet. The question is, honestly, whose hand is up his ass at any given time. The joke usually runs something like "an amazing thing happened today - Thomas spoke while Alito drank a glass of water", but, honestly, I'm thinking he has more than one person's arm calling the shots.
2013-06-18 03:31:17 AM
1 votes:

100 Watt Walrus: Nabb1 (an actual laywer)


GED in law, huh?

Wait for it ...

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2013-06-18 02:48:46 AM
1 votes:

evil saltine: winterbraid: Neeek: The argument isn't that they wouldn't have tried, it's they'd have been stopped. Considering counterterrorism was the #1 national security priority at the end of the Clinton administration, which was dumped for making missile defense the priority when Bush took office, the idea that 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Gore was President is not only not farfetched, it is actually pretty well justified.


Neeek: The argument isn't that they wouldn't have tried, it's they'd have been stopped. Considering counterterrorism was the #1 national security priority at the end of the Clinton administration, which was dumped for making missile defense the priority when Bush took office, the idea that 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Gore was President is not only not farfetched, it is actually pretty well justified.


Neeek: The argument isn't that they wouldn't have tried, it's they'd have been stopped. Considering counterterrorism was the #1 national security priority at the end of the Clinton administration, which was dumped for making missile defense the priority when Bush took office, the idea that 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Gore was President is not only not farfetched, it is actually pretty well justified.

that this isn't a foregone conclusion is farking bewildering.

But Bush was a guy you could have a beer with.


I could have a beer with Hitler, as long as I shaved my mustache. That doesn't mean I agree with the guy, or that the guy is sane and competent and I want him as my leader.

/Mustache turns bright orange, with otherwise dark facial features
//Tell-tale Ashkenazic morphology.
2013-06-18 01:58:53 AM
1 votes:

Neeek: Nabb1: Hollie Maea: Nabb1: Who would you say was the smartest Justice between the War of 1812 and Reconstruction?

Who cares who was the smartest?  The question here is who is the dumbest?  And the answer is Clarence Thomas.

Who is your runner up for the dumbest? Excluding, let's say, everyone in the field before the Earl Warren era.

Blackmun. No question.


Look at how stupid you are.

As for the original question - I couldn't really say that he was stupid, but Stevens' opinions were often complete gibberish. He would disagree with the majority's reasoning yet nevertheless reject the majority's conclusion, and therefore concur in the result.
2013-06-18 01:14:25 AM
1 votes:

PawisBetlog: cameroncrazy1984: I can't believe this guy made it to the Supreme Court. He's awful.

has he EVER voted differently than Alito?  Couldn't agree more, the whole circus around his nomination obscured the fact that he's a farking idiot apparently.


You FUBARed the meme.  The meme is that he always votes the same as Scalia (not Alito).  Unfortunately, the article (and reality) also FUBARs the meme; so it's not entirely your fault.
2013-06-18 12:27:45 AM
1 votes:

timujin: ecmoRandomNumbers: How did Black Mr. Potatohead ever get nominated? I don't get it. Bob Loblaw would've been a better pick.

Are you a corporate executive facing these or other charges? You don't need double talk! You need Bob Loblaw! After all, why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?

Black Mr. Potatohead?
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That doesn't look anything like Clarence Thomas.

Although it really does look like Michael Steele, who is still waiting on his soup from Grover's Restaurant.
2013-06-18 12:17:47 AM
1 votes:
I will say that those were the good ole days of the "lamestream media". Coke can? Pubes? Fark didn't have sheeit on that.
2013-06-18 12:14:37 AM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: Nabb1: Who is your runner up for the dumbest? Excluding, let's say, everyone in the field before the Earl Warren era.

It's hard to say.  No one sticks out the way Thomas does.


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2013-06-18 12:07:11 AM
1 votes:
2013-06-17 11:55:56 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Aarontology: When you think about it, aren't all circumstances current circumstances?

well, one of the many shiatty things about the bush v gore decision is that it was supposed to be "limited" to the current circumstances, which goes against hundreds of years of common law.


Whoa, whoa, whoa! COMMON LAW? That's a BRITISH legal concept.

Are you trying to say that we consider the laws of other nations when we decide whether something is constitutional?
2013-06-17 11:50:13 PM
1 votes:

vernonFL: How many times has Thomas disagreed with Scalia?


This is the second time in few weeks (DNA sample during arrests). Thomas must be really mad at Scalia for something. When Scalia looks reasonable compared to him something is really wrong.
2013-06-17 11:50:08 PM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: CSB:

I just went outside, where my dad is digging up some blackberries out of the fenceline.  I said "who is the dumbest supreme court justice in history?"  Without the slightest bit of hesitation he said "Clarence Thomas".

He did remind me that this would no longer be true had Harriet Miers been confirmed.


Please don't bring that name up again. Thanks.
2013-06-17 11:38:33 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: I can't believe this guy made it to the Supreme Court. He's awful.


Yeah, but there was no way Bush Sr wasn't going to replace a great Justice like Thurgood Marshall with another black guy.

I've kinda noticed that Republican leaders seem to think that all black people are the same.  After Obama was elected, the RNC appointed a goofy black guy in the form of Michael Steele to be it's chairman.  After a couple of years of talking about eating grits, putting up a section of the RNC website to appeal to young voters called "What Up", and basically acting like, not just a buffoon, but a stereotype, the RNC decided that voters got the point that black people make goofy at least and terrible at worst leaders.  Then they kicked him to the curb and, unless I'm mistaken, did not ask him to speak at CPAC (I could be wrong about this, but I don't recall hearing about him speaking there).
2013-06-17 11:35:28 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Hollie Maea: Nabb1: Who would you say was the smartest Justice between the War of 1812 and Reconstruction?

Who cares who was the smartest?  The question here is who is the dumbest?  And the answer is Clarence Thomas.

Who is your runner up for the dumbest? Excluding, let's say, everyone in the field before the Earl Warren era.


Burger would be a good nomination if we're going with post Earl Warren. He was certainly the biggest dickwad on the Court in recent memory.
2013-06-17 11:31:32 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Hollie Maea: Nabb1: Hollie Maea: Thomas is easily the most stupid justice the court has ever seen.  Probably not the worst. But definitely the most stupid.

Okay. Show your work. Exactly how did you reach this conclusion?

I thought about the various justices we have had on the Supreme Court.  Then I thought about Clarence Thomas.  Then I noticed that he was far more stupid than any of the others.

It was his lack of intellect, I think, that really tipped me off.  I don't suppose that you would have noticed that, though.

All the justices? You read their opinions? Read into their backgrounds, education, how they happened to get to the Court? Who would you say was the smartest Justice between the War of 1812 and Reconstruction?


Taney.

*ducks*
2013-06-17 11:30:25 PM
1 votes:
A comprehensive list of the lucid observations Justice Thomas has bestowed upon the court in the past 5+ years:

"Yale Sucks"  --Jan 14, 2013
2013-06-17 11:22:53 PM
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Bob Loblaw would've been a better pick.


Thomas may be incompetent, but he's also a sexual harasser. He's more like Barry Zuckerkorn.
2013-06-17 11:09:49 PM
1 votes:

Evil High Priest: There's stiff competition for Worst Supreme Court Justice, Ever. But he is certainly in the running.

\is this your pube?


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2013-06-17 11:03:32 PM
1 votes:
There's stiff competition for Worst Supreme Court Justice, Ever. But he is certainly in the running.

\is this your pube?
2013-06-17 11:01:45 PM
1 votes:

Sgt Otter: One of Bush's first actions as Commander-in-Chief was to replace General Hugh Shelton, the Commander of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, an Army Special Forces officer with extensive counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency experience, with General Richard Myers, an Air Force ex-fighter jock (like Bush) and ICBM silo slob who still viewed Russia as the USA's greatest threat, and whose pet project was reviving the Cold War-era Star Wars program. He was an absolutely worthless CJCS who was completely out of his element dealing with Al Qaida, Afghanistan and Iraq.


What was Condoleeza Rice's dissertation in? Military politics in Czechoslovakia. Perfect choice for the head of the NSA in 2001.
2013-06-17 10:49:06 PM
1 votes:
You would think the conservatives would be ignoring Bush vs. Gore since it singlehandedly destroyed the party.  If Gore was rightfully appointed, Dubya wouldn't be such a laughingstock.  Of course, that's just playing What If.  All we do know was that Dubya was appointed, failed to stop the biggest terrorist attack in the history of the nation, quadrupled gas prices, and allowed the first Black President ever.

Good job, Republicans. ;)
2013-06-17 10:45:06 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: cman: Why do people think that if Gore was President 9/11 would not have happened?

He wouldn't have dismantled Clinton's intelligence teams and actually would have read his Presidential Daily Briefings?


But lockbox!

/Still love watching those old SNL sketches
2013-06-17 10:33:16 PM
1 votes:

JerkyMeat: [i1048.photobucket.com image 640x409]


I don't care what you guys say he was awesome in the Lethal Weapons
2013-06-17 10:00:02 PM
1 votes:
In before "u libs  still aren't over the 2000 election" derp.
2013-06-17 09:10:13 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: It would have really sucked if Gore was appointed instead of Bush. We would have probably had those two pesky towers, two countries would have been left un-invaded. Our glorious Patriot Act would be but a dream.


Don't forget about those massive tax cuts for rich people, all the jobs they failed to create and the crippling income disparity they did create.
2013-06-17 08:33:46 PM
1 votes:
Just because Bush v. Gore was limited to the "present circumstances" don't mean that the case cannot be cited to support a particular legal point.  That case has been cited and followed by federal courts before.
2013-06-17 08:17:11 PM
1 votes:

BravadoGT: I know this might go over the head of some of the Fark scholars here, but Thomas here didn't cite Bush v. Gore for any of the holdings that came from that case; rather, he's referring to a legal precedent that dates back to 1892 and the Constitution, which the Court most recently recited in Bush v. Gore.  Here's the quote:


"This Court has recognized, however, that "the state legislature's power to select the manner for appointing [presidential] electors is plenary; it may, if it chooses, select the electors itself." Bush v. Gore, 531 U. S. 98, 104 (2000) (per curiam) (citing U. S. Const., Art. II, §1, and McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U. S. 1, 35 (1892))."

The reference to the case is completely appropriate in the context Thomas presents it.


Cant ruin the outrage now can we asshole?
2013-06-17 08:16:40 PM
1 votes:
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2013-06-17 08:16:05 PM
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: How did Black Mr. Potatohead ever get nominated? I don't get it. Bob Loblaw would've been a better pick.

Are you a corporate executive facing these or other charges? You don't need double talk! You need Bob Loblaw! After all, why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?


Black Mr. Potatohead?
3.bp.blogspot.com
2013-06-17 08:14:53 PM
1 votes:

Asa Phelps: Has anyone called him an uncle tom yet?


Just you.
2013-06-17 07:25:25 PM
1 votes:

Kimothy: Rincewind53: P.S.: Almost all justices don't write their own decisions, their clerks do it for them.

Headline should read "Justice Thomas's clerk cites  Bush v. Gore."

Not without direction from the justice. He guided, read, and approved it prior to it being published, and if he didn't, he really and truly is the worst SC justice of all time.


It's cause he's blah isn't it??!?

/someone had post it
2013-06-17 06:03:41 PM
1 votes:
thomas is an appallingly bad justice who should've been impeached years ago for tax evasion.
 
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