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(Bleeding Cool)   Soooo.. about those missing Doctor Who stories   (bleedingcool.com) divider line 55
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2013-06-18 01:08:16 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: I'm no expert on copyright law as it was practiced by the British Commonwealth forty years ago, but it seems pretty natural to me that if recordings of BBC-owned programmes were distributed overseas and subsequently lost, they would remain the rightful property of the BBC once rediscovered.

The talk of "negotiating" with the alleged possessor of the tapes tells me that the story isn't true.

Another thing that's not helping the BBC is they've never offered any reward for the missing episodes. If they offered up 10K for each episode, that would really help recover more, especially from African countries.


Actually, I do believe there is a standing offer of a screen used Dalek prop for any returned missing episodes.
 
2013-06-18 02:44:04 PM  

Titanius Anglesmith: FirstNationalBastard: Titanius Anglesmith: Abner Doon: PizzaJedi81: yukichigai: Way easier to watch than Loose Cannon reconstructions and such.

Ugh, I HATE those. It's the primary thing that's keeping me from enjoying the First Doctor's stories.

Yeah, I just skipped those, they're too painful.  At least there's a few First Doc stories available in full.  I wish more of Troughton's had survived, I liked what little I saw of him.  He has what, like one full story?  Sucks.

Marco Polo was done pretty well, but yea some are awful to try and get through.

I hope whoever made the call to wipe the tapes in the first place lived just long enough to realize what a gigantic fark up he made.

There was no one mustache-twirling guy holding a giant magnet and cackling with glee, this was just policy.

At that time, the BBC could only repeat a show 2 or 3 times before having to renegotiate with everyone involved to pay more royalties. So, that made the films worthless after that amount of repeats was up. Also, when the BBC went color in 1969, Black and White shows were now, essentially, worthless to them because the people were paying for color TV licenses, so why would they want to see B&W programming? And on top  of that, videotapes were expensive, and it was cheaper to wipe and reuse them than to buy a new one because they were saving some worthless show with no rerun value, and very little overseas sales value.

So, the BBC wiped shows up to and including the beginning of the Tom Baker run, and didn't establish an archive until the late-70s.

And they weren't alone. American networks also wiped tapes of daytime shows until the late-70s, and ABC did a horrible thing when they acquired the entire DuMont Network library, they loaded it into trucks and dumped the tapes into the East river so they would have some extra warehouse space.

Compared to ABC, the BBC were thoughtful.

I realize that, but this was when the show was already a huge hit, and it seems the wiping policy was ...


Wasn't there an article not too long ago about the same thing happening with old episodes of You Bet Your Life? They called Groucho up the day before it was all going to be pitched, and instead mailed him like five box trucks full of 16mm reels.
 
2013-06-18 09:09:03 PM  

Abner Doon: PizzaJedi81: yukichigai: Way easier to watch than Loose Cannon reconstructions and such.

Ugh, I HATE those. It's the primary thing that's keeping me from enjoying the First Doctor's stories.

Yeah, I just skipped those, they're too painful.  At least there's a few First Doc stories available in full.  I wish more of Troughton's had survived, I liked what little I saw of him.  He has what, like one full story?  Sucks.


I like some of the fan made reconstructions on youtube or dailymotion... essentially someone took the stories with narration by Hines or someone and put together the telesnaps.  I mean, it's not perfect, but I like it better than the scrolling text at the bottom...
 
2013-06-18 09:54:45 PM  
 
2013-06-19 05:00:59 AM  

sirbissel: Also  http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/18/the-doctor-who-missing-episode s -rumour-gains-a-little-more-weight-three-tons-worth/



Wait... so now Ian Levine is saying that they really DID find three tons worth of BBC film and this ISN'T a hoax? That's what I'm getting from his Twitter feed. I'm so confused...
 
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