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(Townhall)   Maybe immigration activists wouldn't be so pissed at Kansas's Secretary of State if he didn't automatically assume anyone speaking Spanish was an illegal out to rape his children, break into his house, and worthy of being shot   (townhall.com) divider line 165
    More: Interesting, Kansas, Kansas Secretary of State, Spanish, Kris Kobach, right to protest, activists, illegal immigration  
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2013-06-17 02:18:24 PM  
"If we had been in the home and not been armed, I would have felt very afraid - because it took the police 15 minutes to show up," he said. "It's important we recognize there's a reason we have the Second Amendment. There are situations like this where you have a mob and you do need to be able to protect yourself."
He said had they been home and the mob had gotten out of hand, his family would have been in "grave jeopardy."
"The Second Amendment is the private property owner's last resort," he said


200 people? This is why the Second Amendment guarantees your right to grenades, landmines and miniguns.
 
2013-06-17 02:23:56 PM  
200 latinos?  Geez, they probably needed two cars.

/first class, please
 
2013-06-17 02:26:03 PM  
There are some exceptions, but as a general rule for politicians an angry mob gathering that leaves you worried about needing to pull out a gun is a sign that YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
 
2013-06-17 02:30:16 PM  

Diogenes: 200 latinos?  Geez, they probably needed two cars.

/first class, please


Or one El Camino.
 
2013-06-17 02:38:14 PM  
They shouldn't have gotten onto his porch.  Yelling from the street is just as effective, and legal.
 
2013-06-17 02:39:18 PM  

"Kobach said he was especially troubled to learn that it took police at least 15 minutes to respond to his house."


Now I dialed 911 a long time ago, don't you see how late they're reactin'

They only come and they come when they wanna, so get the morgue embalm the goner...

bloggingrealestateinnova.com
 
2013-06-17 02:41:35 PM  
Maybe Kansas just isn't the place for you anymore, you bigoted racist. Go back to Texas to live with "your" people
 
2013-06-17 03:19:45 PM  
"If we had been in the home and not been armed, I would have felt very afraid - because it took the police 15 minutes to show up," he said. "It's important we recognize there's a reason we have the Second Amendment."

Sounds like he'd just been interrupted from a Fark gun control thread.

Pandering to the gun rights crowd was probably a good political move. Kind of a dick move towards the local P.D., but he's a right-wing Republican, dick moves are kind of admired.

However, I'm not sure I believe his insinuation that if he'd been home, and armed, he wouldn't have been afraid when a crowd of 200 brown people showed up... speaking Spanish.

Anyway, as much of a dickhole as this guy may be, not really cool to stage protests at the homes of politicians, no matter how much they piss you off.

//might make an exception for voting rights
//or outside governor's mansions if there's like a gate and shiat
 
2013-06-17 03:23:21 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: "If we had been in the home and not been armed, I would have felt very afraid - because it took the police 15 minutes to show up," he said. "It's important we recognize there's a reason we have the Second Amendment. There are situations like this where you have a mob and you do need to be able to protect yourself."
He said had they been home and the mob had gotten out of hand, his family would have been in "grave jeopardy."
"The Second Amendment is the private property owner's last resort," he said

200 people? This is why the Second Amendment guarantees your right to grenades, landmines and miniguns.


Definitely.  With an AR-15 he would have needed a minimum of 6000 rounds to protect his castle.  He would have had to get the wife & kids to reload magazines and hand them to him old-west style.
 
2013-06-17 03:24:02 PM  
"He believes a number of laws were violated including terrorizing a public official."

If this is all it takes to consider something terrorism, then everything is terrorism.
 
2013-06-17 03:25:36 PM  
I agree that his positions are retarded but I also agree that coming to his home was out of line.
 
2013-06-17 03:26:21 PM  
Interesting... Google says the Web site of Sunflower Community Action "may be compromised."
 
2013-06-17 03:27:37 PM  
If the guy argued about appropriateness and safety, he would have made a salient point. But he went with the Second Amendment angle, which while scores points with his constituents, makes him seem like a total putz. Add the racial insinuation by the article writer and you have basically GOP2013.jpg
 
2013-06-17 03:28:53 PM  

Serious Black: "He believes a number of laws were violated including terrorizing a public official."

If this is all it takes to consider something terrorism, then everything is terrorism.


Large groups of people yelling is terrorism only if their skin color is darker than light mayonnaise.  Otherwise, it's just a town hall meeting.
 
2013-06-17 03:29:39 PM  
"No women, no kids."
 
2013-06-17 03:30:17 PM  
They didn't come armed...this time.
 
2013-06-17 03:31:08 PM  
The people shouldn't be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people.
 
2013-06-17 03:33:52 PM  
You're a public official, dipshiat. You don't get to whine people people protest you
 
2013-06-17 03:35:05 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: The people shouldn't be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people.


His home, wife, and children are not the government.
 
2013-06-17 03:36:08 PM  

Karac: With an AR-15 he would have needed a minimum of 6000 rounds to protect his castle.


Suppressing FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE!

// 200 people, at the Afghanistan suppression rate, would take something like 50 MILLION rounds
// but you're probably not suppressing at a 250,000-to-1 ratio for 200 brown folks on one lawn
 
2013-06-17 03:37:17 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Anyway, as much of a dickhole as this guy may be, not really cool to stage protests at the homes of politicians, no matter how much they piss you off.


Exception granted for Michael Moore bringing the DC Gay Men's Choir to Jesse Helms' house to sing "On the Street Where You Live".
 
2013-06-17 03:38:37 PM  

uttlc: Philip Francis Queeg: The people shouldn't be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people.

His home, wife, and children are not the government.


Kansas Republican?  With wide stances like that, they aren't his kids.  The GOP has a "Picturesque Family For Rent" agency set up to deal with hypocrites like him.
 
2013-06-17 03:39:41 PM  
I Googled "ks secretary of state protest" to see what actually happened.  The first page had one link to a local news account and the rest were right wing sites of various grades.  Stormfront went with "Mestizo scum protest at the home of Kansas' secretary of state" but the winner was vnnforum.com with "Latrinos protest at the home of Kansas secretary of state".
 
2013-06-17 03:39:50 PM  

uttlc: Philip Francis Queeg: The people shouldn't be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people.

His home, wife, and children are not the government.


FTFA: "Kobach and his family happened to be out-of-town when the demonstrators arrived."

Next you'll tell me that I can be charged with attempted murder of a 7-11 employee because I carried a loaded gun into his store even though the employee was on vacation when I walked into his store.
 
2013-06-17 03:40:16 PM  
I'm cool with protesting, I'm cool if you want to follow the guy around and protest.  But standing on a guy's porch and demanding he come out.. you lost my support.  If you want to protest at his house, you get 50 or so of your best behaved grab some signs and keep moving back and forth in front of it.
 
2013-06-17 03:40:23 PM  

johnny_vegas: Aarontology: You don't get to whine people people protest you

[theprepperdude.com image 450x268]


haha. Oops. When people*
 
2013-06-17 03:41:33 PM  

highbrow45: I agree that his positions are retarded but I also agree that coming to his home was out of line.


Well, we'll see what kind of a smurf he is, the kind that backs down from being an abominable asshole or the kind that doubles down into Reptilian villain territory (i.e., perfect for GOP presidential candidacy).

I hadn't heard?  Was his wife raped and his children wrapped in burritos and consumed by 200 latinos?
 
2013-06-17 03:41:45 PM  

ArkPanda: I Googled "ks secretary of state protest" to see what actually happened.  The first page had one link to a local news account and the rest were right wing sites of various grades.  Stormfront went with "Mestizo scum protest at the home of Kansas' secretary of state" but the winner was vnnforum.com with "Latrinos protest at the home of Kansas secretary of state".


...should I ask what VNN stands for? Because I'm not farking googling it.
 
2013-06-17 03:42:42 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Afghanistan suppression rate,


Unrelated to anything, but I love how that article simply cites Reddit as a source
 
2013-06-17 03:44:34 PM  
Anyone care to copy\paste, I am not clicking on ClownHall.
 
2013-06-17 03:46:29 PM  

Bloody William: ArkPanda: I Googled "ks secretary of state protest" to see what actually happened.  The first page had one link to a local news account and the rest were right wing sites of various grades.  Stormfront went with "Mestizo scum protest at the home of Kansas' secretary of state" but the winner was vnnforum.com with "Latrinos protest at the home of Kansas secretary of state".

...should I ask what VNN stands for? Because I'm not farking googling it.


I have no idea.  I'm sure the full article would be very entertaining but I'm not clicking that link at work.
 
2013-06-17 03:47:23 PM  

Maud Dib: Anyone care to copy\paste, I am not clicking on ClownHall.


The  Kansas Secretary of State wants to use one 2nd Amendment right to prevent Latinos from exercising another.
 
2013-06-17 03:47:35 PM  
wait, he wasn't home but knows it took the cops 15 mins?

i don't know... hopefully, this guy will understand that the stances he takes politically don't get to go home & take off their hat and pat themselves on the back for such a job well done.

sounds like this guy is shocked! that the people have opinions regarding immigration & had to wait til their day off to let the scum know they are paying attention.
 
2013-06-17 03:48:10 PM  

Diogenes: Maud Dib: Anyone care to copy\paste, I am not clicking on ClownHall.

The  Kansas Secretary of State wants to use one 2nd Amendment right to prevent Latinos from exercising another.


Aw fark.  I tripped over the amendments.  I'll go away now.
 
2013-06-17 03:48:15 PM  

Karac: Large groups of people yelling is terrorism only if their skin color is darker than light mayonnaise. Otherwise, it's just a town hall meeting.


www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2013-06-17 03:48:25 PM  
They learned it from the teabaggers.

We didn't forget about that shiat, you farks.
 
2013-06-17 03:49:11 PM  

Maud Dib: Anyone care to copy\paste, I am not clicking on ClownHall.


Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach is calling for a criminal investigation after a huge mob of illegal alien supporters surrounded his private home Saturday and held a rally on his front porch.

At least 200 members of Sunflower Community Action were bussed into Kobach's Kansas City-area neighborhood on Saturday - to protest his staunch anti-illegal alien views.

"I was just appalled," Kobach told Fox News. "They have a right to protest at my office or at public places - that's fine. But they don't have a right to enter someone's private property and engage in this kind of intimidation."

"I have four little girls and they would have been terrified to see 200 protesters shouting at their daddy on megaphones on the front lawn," he said.

The secretary of state said a large number of the protesters were believed to be illegal aliens. They can be seen on video chanting in Spanish, standing on Kobach's porch, front yard and driveway and demanding that he come outside.

"Kris Kobach, come on out," one unidentified protester shouted. "We'll show you what Kansans are all about."

Kobach and his family happened to be out-of-town when the demonstrators arrived. Video showed the protesters arriving in four buses - and then marching through the neighborhood. They left behind 20 pairs of shoes at his doorstep - representing illegals who've been deported.

Kobach has built a national profile presenting tough policies on illegal immigration issues. He and his family apparently weren't home during the protest at his home.

"You don't go to a public official's home and try to intimidate him because of the positions he's taken," he said.

A receptionist at Sunflower Community Action told Fox News they would be releasing a statement to the press later today.

Kobach said he was especially troubled to learn that it took police at least 15 minutes to respond to his house.

"You have a mob of 200 people gathering on someone's property and it takes the police 15 minutes to get there," he said. "That doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence either. I shudder to think what would have happened if one of those members of the mob had tried to break into the house."

He also feared what would have happened had he been home with his wife and four young daughters.
"On a typical Saturday, my four girls would have been riding their bikes and coloring chalk in the driveway," he said. "That's where they play. If four buses pulled up and the mob started marching down upon them, they would have been absolutely terrified."

The secretary of state is a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment - and he said the incident at his home is an example of why Americans should bear arms.

"If we had been in the home and not been armed, I would have felt very afraid - because it took the police 15 minutes to show up," he said. "It's important we recognize there's a reason we have the Second Amendment. There are situations like this where you have a mob and you do need to be able to protect yourself."

He said had they been home and the mob had gotten out of hand, his family would have been in "grave jeopardy."

"The Second Amendment is the private property owner's last resort," he said.

Kobach said he's asked local police and the county attorney to investigate the incident. He believes a number of laws were violated including terrorizing a public official.

The county attorney did not return calls seeking comment.

Kobach said he will not be silenced by the weekend mob-action.

"My views are set and I'm determined to do what I can to restore the rule of law," he said. "Let's obey our laws and not give amnesty to illegal aliens."

And he also leveled a warning to would-be protesters.

"Don't come to my home and don't scare my family," he said.
 
2013-06-17 03:52:11 PM  

Diogenes: Maud Dib: Anyone care to copy\paste, I am not clicking on ClownHall.

The  Kansas Secretary of State wants to use one 2nd Amendment right to prevent Latinos from exercising another.


Trespassing isn't a right, if they went on his property and didn't just hang out on the sidewalk/street they should be getting a nice little restraining order for being complete douches.
 
2013-06-17 03:52:20 PM  

Dante87336: If the guy argued about appropriateness and safety, he would have made a salient point. But he went with the Second Amendment angle, which while scores points with his constituents, makes him seem like a total putz. Add the racial insinuation by the article writer and you have basically GOP2013.jpg


Yeah, he is the public official, so he has it backwards. If anything the second amendment is to ensure the rights of those he has aggrieved to come to his house, haul him and his family out in the night, and "water the tree of liberty" as his Tea Party constituents so love to invoke.

Assuming, of course, he's committed some tyrannical act equivalent to, say, suggesting a small increase in the top marginal tax rate.
 
2013-06-17 03:53:45 PM  
They came unarmed this time.
 
2013-06-17 03:53:49 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Maybe Kansas just isn't the place for you anymore, you bigoted racist. Go back to Texas to live with "your" people


Hell, we don't want him, either.

Maud Dib: I am not clicking on ClownHall.


It's worth it to read the comments. Makes you feel like you're at a Reichsparteitag.
 
2013-06-17 03:54:13 PM  
Regardless of your politics, protesting at someone's home is a total dick move.  Picket their office, leave their family the hell alone.
 
2013-06-17 03:54:20 PM  

ArkPanda: I Googled "ks secretary of state protest" to see what actually happened.  The first page had one link to a local news account and the rest were right wing sites of various grades.  Stormfront went with "Mestizo scum protest at the home of Kansas' secretary of state" but the winner was vnnforum.com with "Latrinos protest at the home of Kansas secretary of state".


But don't you dare call them racist.
 
2013-06-17 03:55:14 PM  

Isitoveryet: wait, he wasn't home but knows it took the cops 15 mins?


I think he called the cops, and the dispatcher probably told him "yeah, we'll be there in 15 minutes" while rolling his eyes and making a wanking motion.
 
2013-06-17 03:55:46 PM  
""Don't come to my home and don't scare my family," he said. "

Funny considering what they're protesting is policies that separate families, basically 'Don't fark with my family, but I'll gladly fark with yours.'
 
2013-06-17 03:56:22 PM  

ArkPanda: Latrinos


*guffaw*
 
2013-06-17 03:57:24 PM  
My 'Libertarian' co-worker pointed this out to me, it is a CSB.

CSB
He mentioned to me the story about the guy who got arrested for trapping the four burglarizing 8-10 year olds in a closet. He said the little punks should have been shot to death. Obvious argument ensued about his insanity. 10 minutes later he showed this to me and then asked if I would have been OK with the politician just opening fire on the crowd of protestors, because they were on his property. He said this seriously....
End CSB
 
2013-06-17 03:57:47 PM  

speakandgo: I'm cool with protesting, I'm cool if you want to follow the guy around and protest.  But standing on a guy's porch and demanding he come out.. you lost my support.  If you want to protest at his house, you get 50 or so of your best behaved grab some signs and keep moving back and forth in front of it.


Serious question:  Do you actually think Townhall told the truth on any of this?  It's not exactly a site known for, well, telling the truth.
 
2013-06-17 03:58:35 PM  

Skanque: Regardless of your politics, protesting at someone's home is a total dick move.  Picket their office, leave their family the hell alone.


This guy advocates tearing families apart by deporting their members for being "illegal". Turnabout is fair play.

/should've egged the shiat out of the place, imo
 
2013-06-17 04:01:18 PM  
Should shout in Portuguese. It's not Spanish and you're sure as hell to scare them just as much and maybe reveal more of their ignorance.

/but seriously don't harass the family
//go for the office or townhall
 
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