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2013-06-17 03:30:45 PM  
The Seattle Seal and use the old California Golden Seal uni and colors.
 
2013-06-17 03:33:10 PM  
seumasokelly:

I know. That's where I got the name. My guess would be that were Seattle to get a NHL team, the Thunderbirds would move.

It's possible.  Could be they'd end up as the reincarnated Tacoma Sabercats, or maybe WHL will expand into Idaho.
 
2013-06-17 03:35:58 PM  

FloydA: seumasokelly:

I know. That's where I got the name. My guess would be that were Seattle to get a NHL team, the Thunderbirds would move.

It's possible.  Could be they'd end up as the reincarnated Tacoma Sabercats, or maybe WHL will expand into Idaho.


Let's go Aryans!
 
2013-06-17 03:36:34 PM  

Tanukis_Parachute: The Seattle Seal and use the old California Golden Seal uni and colors.


i105.photobucket.com
We could use the old Seal uni's and just change the name to The Giant Ugly Slugs.

/Seriously, how does that look at all like a seal?
 
2013-06-17 03:37:56 PM  

yelmrog: FloydA: maybe WHL will expand into Idaho.

Let's go Aryans!


i105.photobucket.com
The Fightin' Whities.
 
2013-06-17 03:38:39 PM  

FloydA: Hint: It's neither Brooklyn nor 1992.


Seriously. Pockets of each certainly do exist, but it's far from being a proper, all-encompassing stereotype in 2013.

I'll at least accept either "everyone's an IT/engineering geek" or "everyone shops at REI and talks about their favorite hiking trails" before those two.
 
2013-06-17 03:40:34 PM  

JayCab: MichiganFTL: tobcc: Once again, Kansas City will be skipped to get an NHL team.  I know we have a history of some of the suckiest teams in Pro Sports, but we usually have good attendance.  We built a brand new arena, with the "If you build it, they will come" promise, that we all knew was a lie going in.

Royals rank 25th in attendance per game in MLB (2013)
Chiefs rank 16th in attendance per game in NFL (2012)

Not really lighting my fire there...Granted, Seattle was 26th in MLB and 17th in NFL.

Seattle  is #1 in the MLS, with more than double the average attendance of the 4th highest team (Kansas City is 6th). Hell, the Sounders are outdrawing the Mariners on a per-game basis (and SKC is only about 2K behind the Royals). I'd say that both cities are willing to show up, at least for new teams (as in Seattle) or stadiums (KC).


Mariners attendance has waned steadily over the last 10 years because the ownership shows no interest in putting a good product on the field. It's hard to justify spending MLB money to watch a glorified AAA team get routed by mediocre opposition. People go to see Felix Hernandez and skip the other 4 games. Every Seahawks game is a sellout. Even when the Mariners stunk, people supported them because they were at least trying. Now, it's obvious their business model is headed toward the Pittsburgh Pirate's "pocket the TV money, to hell with the fans" model.
 
2013-06-17 03:41:01 PM  
Lumberjacks?
 
2013-06-17 03:43:00 PM  
Seattle Galoshes.
 
2013-06-17 03:45:23 PM  

JayCab: MichiganFTL: tobcc: Once again, Kansas City will be skipped to get an NHL team.  I know we have a history of some of the suckiest teams in Pro Sports, but we usually have good attendance.  We built a brand new arena, with the "If you build it, they will come" promise, that we all knew was a lie going in.

Royals rank 25th in attendance per game in MLB (2013)
Chiefs rank 16th in attendance per game in NFL (2012)

Not really lighting my fire there...Granted, Seattle was 26th in MLB and 17th in NFL.

Seattle  is #1 in the MLS, with more than double the average attendance of the 4th highest team (Kansas City is 6th). Hell, the Sounders are outdrawing the Mariners on a per-game basis (and SKC is only about 2K behind the Royals). I'd say that both cities are willing to show up, at least for new teams (as in Seattle) or stadiums (KC).


That's pretty much the entire rationale for building a new stadium in Sacramento - the Kings want to finally outdraw AAA baseball.
 
2013-06-17 03:45:46 PM  
There is only one reason why an NHL team in Seattle would be the best farking idea in the history of the Universe:

The Vancouver Canucks.

/actually, there are many reasons, but that is the biggest one
 
2013-06-17 03:46:49 PM  
Won't happen.   Bettman is likely using Seattle as a pawn to get things going between Glendale and the Coyotes.

Key Arena only seats 11,000 for hockey configuration.  Add about 3k more for "can't see half the ice" seats.
 
2013-06-17 03:55:11 PM  

Cagey B: Since we're building the new arena and all, I say Sacramento steps in and grabs Seattle's NHL bid as well. Not because I like hockey, but more because I'm a fan of sports rage.


I'm on board with this. I'd be getting season tickets day 1.
 
2013-06-17 03:55:35 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-17 03:56:27 PM  
Yeah right, as a Seattle resident. Im not even getting my hopes up at all this time.


Forgive me for not believing.
 
2013-06-17 03:58:23 PM  
If it happens, I vote for the Seattle Slashers.


but it wont happen.
 
2013-06-17 03:59:03 PM  
Quebec City is more likely.
 
2013-06-17 04:00:05 PM  

mentallo69: Yeah right, as a Seattle resident. Im not even getting my hopes up at all this time.


Forgive me for not believing.


We're more than likely being played. Seattle is now to the NHL/NBA what LA is to the NFL: A market viable enough to scare other cities into paying for arenas/stadiums.
 
2013-06-17 04:01:05 PM  
  11,000 seat barn? I am guessing, no f*cking way. Is hockey as popular in Seattle as it is in Phoenix?
 
2013-06-17 04:01:11 PM  

seumasokelly: mentallo69: Yeah right, as a Seattle resident. Im not even getting my hopes up at all this time.


Forgive me for not believing.

We're more than likely being played. Seattle is now to the NHL/NBA what LA is to the NFL: A market viable enough to scare other cities into paying for arenas/stadiums.


I know, This shiat is getting old.
 
2013-06-17 04:03:06 PM  

New Age Redneck: 11,000 seat barn? I am guessing, no f*cking way. Is hockey as popular in Seattle as it is in Phoenix?


Yes, Hockey is very big here but we only have minor league teams. They do pretty well. If Soccer sells out here, NHL can do well too
 
2013-06-17 04:03:43 PM  
No way Seattle would steal a team
 
2013-06-17 04:06:31 PM  

mikaloyd: No way Seattle would steal a team


Nope.  We're always at the other end of that transaction.
 
2013-06-17 04:07:57 PM  

FloydA: mikaloyd: No way Seattle would steal a team

Nope.  We're always at the other end of that transaction.


No kidding!
 
2013-06-17 04:08:11 PM  
The Raining Champions
The Rain men...
The Chiefs?
 
2013-06-17 04:16:09 PM  

TeamEd: Go with the Metropolitains.
You get to go the Senators route and piggy back on history and get awesome throwbacks as a bonus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Metropolitans


Do they get the rights to the Stanley Cup win?
 
2013-06-17 04:22:07 PM  

MichiganFTL: tobcc: Once again, Kansas City will be skipped to get an NHL team.  I know we have a history of some of the suckiest teams in Pro Sports, but we usually have good attendance.  We built a brand new arena, with the "If you build it, they will come" promise, that we all knew was a lie going in.

Royals rank 25th in attendance per game in MLB (2013)
Chiefs rank 16th in attendance per game in NFL (2012)

Not really lighting my fire there...Granted, Seattle was 26th in MLB and 17th in NFL.


NFL attendance figures are pretty much moot among the top 20 teams as most NFL stadiums sell out every weekend (including Seattle), and then it comes down to physical stadium size.

The NHL would do phenomenally well in Seattle, especially when you factor in a rivalry with the Canucks (and thousand of Canucks fans travelling to those games) and some residual people coming in from Oregon and Eastern Washington.
 
2013-06-17 04:24:30 PM  
Seattle Grunge.

(credit: @browntobure)
 
2013-06-17 04:27:45 PM  
Seattle is a much more respectable hockey market than farking Phoenix.
 
2013-06-17 04:28:07 PM  

LessO2: Won't happen.   Bettman is likely using Seattle as a pawn to get things going between Glendale and the Coyotes.

Key Arena only seats 11,000 for hockey configuration.  Add about 3k more for "can't see half the ice" seats.


It's not like Bettman has ever yanked a team away from a city recently.......

/fark you with no lube in a cold locker room for taking the Thrashers away
 
2013-06-17 04:29:14 PM  

Martonio: Seattle Grunge.

(credit: @browntobure)


No
 
2013-06-17 04:29:23 PM  

Martonio: The NHL would do phenomenally well in Seattle, especially when you factor in a rivalry with the Canucks (and thousand of Canucks fans travelling to those games) and some residual people coming in from Oregon and Eastern Washington.


What do you mean "thousands of Canucks fans traveling...."?  Their "fans" were skeptical of them in the playoffs, and the scalpers were taking it in the shorts for the playoff games against the Sharks.

Stop drinking the Kool-AId and calling this a rivalry.  For chrissakes, there isn't even a team name to label the rivalry.

And if the Kings soap opera didn't teach you anything, you shouldn't count the chickens before they're hatched.
 
2013-06-17 04:29:41 PM  

Martonio: NHL would do phenomenally well in Seattle, especially when you factor in a rivalry with the Canucks (and thousand of Canucks fans travelling to those games) and some residual people coming in from Oregon and Eastern Washington.


yeah, if the Sounders offer any kind of yardstick by which to measure, Seattle hockey would be insane.  And, Vancouver would offer an amazing rivalry.  Lastly, i venture to guess there are a farkload more people that grew up with the game.  that is one of main problems with the 'Yotes being here.  only the diest of the die-hard natives (a) care and/or (b) understand the nuance of the game, and the other 95% of fans are trnasplants, hence the "i love my 'Yotes.....except when my _____s* come to town!"

*red wings, blackhawks, rangers, pens, etc.
 
2013-06-17 04:29:44 PM  

SlagginOff: Seattle is a much more respectable hockey market than farking Phoenix.


So is/was Atlanta. Lot of good that did us.
 
2013-06-17 04:30:43 PM  

mentallo69: If it happens, I vote for the Seattle Slashers.


but it wont happen.


Get Gary Ridgway to drop the puck for the first home game and I'm in.
 
2013-06-17 04:31:02 PM  

KingKauff: It's not like Bettman has ever yanked a team away from a city recently.......


And it's likely not the first time Bettman has blackmailed a city with the threat to move to another city.
 
2013-06-17 04:31:35 PM  

KingKauff: SlagginOff: Seattle is a much more respectable hockey market than farking Phoenix.

So is/was Atlanta. Lot of good that did us.


When was Atlanta ever a respectable hockey market?
 
2013-06-17 04:33:02 PM  
This isn't a Gary Bettman thing, if a city is dumb enough to keep giving you free money you ride that gravy train as long as possible.
 
2013-06-17 04:33:57 PM  
Seattle Steelhead?  Olympians?  Satellites?
 
2013-06-17 04:34:46 PM  
Also before you guys start talking about "respectable hockey markets" take a look at attendance in Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Boston before those teams got good again
 
2013-06-17 04:38:56 PM  

PowerSlacker: KingKauff: SlagginOff: Seattle is a much more respectable hockey market than farking Phoenix.

So is/was Atlanta. Lot of good that did us.

When was Atlanta ever a respectable hockey market?


Pretty much the entire time the Thrashers were here. There is this aura that Atlanta didn't support the Thrashers. We did. We just didn't support the ownership group because they quit trying to keep their good players.
 
2013-06-17 04:39:05 PM  
I have a hard time imagining the Canucks not axing this deal, too close to their fan base that's been around far longer.

Milwaukee should get a team if anyone.
 
2013-06-17 04:41:57 PM  
It can be Metropolitans, but it needs a good animal logo to go with it.  Just not sure what kind of animal it could be, as there's already a hawk in the city, and just about every other good totem-pole animal in the league already.  Unless they did a polar bear or something?
 
2013-06-17 04:44:40 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Also before you guys start talking about "respectable hockey markets" take a look at attendance in Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Boston before those teams got good again


Oh goodness me, are you saying, that at a time of terrible ownership AND poor team performance attendance may be down? Such a revelation. I need to sit down. This is all so shocking.
 
2013-06-17 04:44:51 PM  

Martonio: MichiganFTL: tobcc: Once again, Kansas City will be skipped to get an NHL team.  I know we have a history of some of the suckiest teams in Pro Sports, but we usually have good attendance.  We built a brand new arena, with the "If you build it, they will come" promise, that we all knew was a lie going in.

Royals rank 25th in attendance per game in MLB (2013)
Chiefs rank 16th in attendance per game in NFL (2012)

Not really lighting my fire there...Granted, Seattle was 26th in MLB and 17th in NFL.

NFL attendance figures are pretty much moot among the top 20 teams as most NFL stadiums sell out every weekend (including Seattle), and then it comes down to physical stadium size.

The NHL would do phenomenally well in Seattle, especially when you factor in a rivalry with the Canucks (and thousand of Canucks fans travelling to those games) and some residual people coming in from Oregon and Eastern Washington.


Don't forget actual Canadian fans that haven't been able to actually get an affordable Canucks ticket for years
 
2013-06-17 04:48:24 PM  

Lunchlady: I have a hard time imagining the Canucks not axing this deal, too close to their fan base that's been around far longer.

Milwaukee should get a team if anyone.


"Rivalry" teams tend to do quite well, since the manufactured rivalry tends to drive up attendance and viewership.  The 'Nucks stand to benefit from a Seattle team so much that I bet the  Aquilini's and Gillis are begging Bettman to do this.

/Still not gonna happen.
 
2013-06-17 04:50:15 PM  
The Seattle Sasquatches
 
2013-06-17 04:51:42 PM  

FriarReb98: It can be Metropolitans, but it needs a good animal logo to go with it.  Just not sure what kind of animal it could be, as there's already a hawk in the city, and just about every other good totem-pole animal in the league already.  Unless they did a polar bear or something?


Why would it need an animal logo? I disagree. And what animal should represent "metropolitan"? A rat?
 
2013-06-17 04:51:44 PM  
Seattle Salmon?
Seattle Spawners?
Seattle Shotguns? With Kurt Cobain's photo for the logo?
 
2013-06-17 04:52:32 PM  

soupafi: Quebec City is more likely.


Quebec City isn't likely because Bettman can't stomach the thought of a second team from his Sunbelt experiment moving back to Canada. The look on his face during the Winnipeg Jets press conference was hilarious. He looked like he wanted to puke. Besides, the NHL don't want to move another team to the East after just realigning.
 
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