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(NBC News)   Vladimir Putin apparently under the impression that the US is going to be sending arms to an army of the walking dead. What does he know that we don't??   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 16
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2013-06-17 01:20:06 PM  
6 votes:

Magorn: Well, swap "reasonable" for "self-interested" and you're getting somewhere.


Reasonable foreign policy should be self interested. I don't think it's in the United States' interest to funnel weapons to unknown parties that include radical jihadists. That hasn't worked out very well the last few times.
2013-06-17 01:12:02 PM  
5 votes:
The more I look at Syria the more I think "The only winning move is not to play" That civil war seems to be a fight of who can be the bigger ahole.
2013-06-17 01:07:03 PM  
5 votes:
American foreign policy is at the point where the international super-villain is the most reasonable voice here.
2013-06-17 01:44:01 PM  
3 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Magorn: Protect the civillians as best you can

Hardest part of that job? Identifying "civilians".

How do you tell the difference between one guy carrying an AK-47 to shop for groceries with one who does it for a living? How do you tell the difference when the same guy holding the same AK-47 uses it for shopping and for a paramilitary organization (because the accounting firm he used to work for in Aleppo is "no longer taking client requests")?

If they wear uniforms, they're probably not civilians, but many of the parties to this conflict don't wear uniforms. I also wonder if there are only two sides to this conflict (the meta-conflict, I mean - the Battle for Syria's Soul, not the Assads-vs-rebels).


Listen up U.S. The 'enemy of my enemy CAN and most likely will STILL BE YOUR ENEMY' in the long run. Seriously, does every administration have to relearn this?
2013-06-17 01:20:52 PM  
3 votes:
We've got a dictator committing atrocities, a fiercely divided internal resistance which has been decimated by the dictator's forces, and a whole bunch of jihadists-for-hire brought in by other countries who stand to gain from Syria's chaos.  The dictator's been proven to use bio-chemical weapons in limited engagements, and the rebels are strongly rumored to have used them as well.  The rebels also are pretty much confirmed to be engaging in rape & cannibalism.

This is one of those rare cases where the correct answer is "both side are just about equally bad.  Send the red cross in with humanitarian aid, but don't actually enable either side".
2013-06-17 04:04:03 PM  
1 votes:

Lexx: We've got a dictator committing atrocities, a fiercely divided internal resistance which has been decimated by the dictator's forces, and a whole bunch of jihadists-for-hire brought in by other countries who stand to gain from Syria's chaos.  The dictator's been proven to use bio-chemical weapons in limited engagements, and the rebels are strongly rumored to have used them as well.  The rebels also are pretty much confirmed to be engaging in rape & cannibalism.

This is one of those rare cases where the correct answer is "both side are just about equally bad.  Send the red cross in with humanitarian aid, but don't actually enable either side".


This is shiate versus Sunni.

Any involvement on our part is lose/lose
2013-06-17 01:51:50 PM  
1 votes:
He knows that the opponent of a bad guy is not necessarily a good guy.  Sometimes it is another bad guy.

Americans tend to be naive that way.

/American
2013-06-17 01:37:38 PM  
1 votes:

Magorn: Protect the civillians as best you can


Hardest part of that job? Identifying "civilians".

How do you tell the difference between one guy carrying an AK-47 to shop for groceries with one who does it for a living? How do you tell the difference when the same guy holding the same AK-47 uses it for shopping and for a paramilitary organization (because the accounting firm he used to work for in Aleppo is "no longer taking client requests")?

If they wear uniforms, they're probably not civilians, but many of the parties to this conflict don't wear uniforms. I also wonder if there are only two sides to this conflict (the meta-conflict, I mean - the Battle for Syria's Soul, not the Assads-vs-rebels).
2013-06-17 01:31:39 PM  
1 votes:

EdNortonsTwin: We already arm bears, why not zombies.


To be fair, bears do have the right to own bear arms.
2013-06-17 01:24:54 PM  
1 votes:

Lexx: We've got a dictator committing atrocities, a fiercely divided internal resistance which has been decimated by the dictator's forces, and a whole bunch of jihadists-for-hire brought in by other countries who stand to gain from Syria's chaos.  The dictator's been proven to use bio-chemical weapons in limited engagements, and the rebels are strongly rumored to have used them as well.  The rebels also are pretty much confirmed to be engaging in rape & cannibalism.

This is one of those rare cases where the correct answer is "both side are just about equally bad.  Send the red cross in with humanitarian aid, but don't actually enable either side".


Or this might be the rare instance of, "Nuke it from orbit, just to be sure."
2013-06-17 01:23:06 PM  
1 votes:
Vladimir Putin got crazy game, a judo black belt, and a superbowl ring.


www.timeidol.com
2013-06-17 01:22:37 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe I'm just picking nits but.......  Won't eating raw intestines directly from a dead body either kiil a person or make them deathly ill ???


FTA: "One does not really need to support the people who not only kill their enemies, but open up their bodies, eat their intestines in front of the public and cameras,"


/oh zombies, right..........
2013-06-17 01:16:46 PM  
1 votes:

groppet: The more I look at Syria the more I think "The only winning move is not to play" That civil war seems to be a fight of who can be the bigger ahole.


As a Redskins fan, whenever the Cowboys would play the Eagles and someone would ask me who I was rooting for, I'd reply "The injury report".   In a fight between Assad and Hezbollah on one side, and Al-Qaeda and the very same folks that were shooting at the US in Iraq until the "Anbar awakening" drove them out on the other,  I feel much the same way.  Protect the civillians as best you can by setting up refugee zones in "no-fly"/No Shell  areas and then left the boys with guns play "KIlkenny Cats" with each other
2013-06-17 01:12:30 PM  
1 votes:

Cagey B: American foreign policy is at the point where the international super-villain is the most reasonable voice here.


Well, swap "reasonable" for "self-interested"  and you're getting somewhere.   I'm personally suprised the Syrain conflict hasn't brought all the "end times" crazies out of the woodwork at this point.   Mind you it's been a while since I spent much time tracking the beliefs of these nuts but I swear that int he old days at least they were convinced that the "Gog" mentioned in the Bible was Persia?Iran, and "Magog" was Russia,  and I think an alliance of these two powers was supposed to signal the beginning of Armageddon or somesuch.    Well, they ARE on the same side in the Syrian conflict...
2013-06-17 01:10:25 PM  
1 votes:
That guy is seriously bat schitt crazy.
2013-06-17 01:03:01 PM  
1 votes:

"Putin: West arming Syrian rebels who eat human flesh"


Maybe Putin can arm the Syrian Army with gaudy $25,000 Super Bowl rings that can kill a man with one hit.

 
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