Cagey B: American foreign policy is at the point where the international super-villain is the most reasonable voice here.
groppet: The more I look at Syria the more I think "The only winning move is not to play" That civil war seems to be a fight of who can be the bigger ahole.
Magorn: groppet: The more I look at Syria the more I think "The only winning move is not to play" That civil war seems to be a fight of who can be the bigger ahole.As a Redskins fan...
puddleonfire: I think Obama just got done talking about sending arms to the rebels.GRREEAAAAAAAT.
Magorn: Well, swap "reasonable" for "self-interested" and you're getting somewhere.
Cagey B: Magorn: Well, swap "reasonable" for "self-interested" and you're getting somewhere.Reasonable foreign policy should be self interested. I don't think it's in the United States' interest to funnel weapons to unknown parties that include radical jihadists. That hasn't worked out very well the last few times.
Lexx: We've got a dictator committing atrocities, a fiercely divided internal resistance which has been decimated by the dictator's forces, and a whole bunch of jihadists-for-hire brought in by other countries who stand to gain from Syria's chaos. The dictator's been proven to use bio-chemical weapons in limited engagements, and the rebels are strongly rumored to have used them as well. The rebels also are pretty much confirmed to be engaging in rape & cannibalism.This is one of those rare cases where the correct answer is "both side are just about equally bad. Send the red cross in with humanitarian aid, but don't actually enable either side".
EdNortonsTwin: We already arm bears, why not zombies.
Magorn: Protect the civillians as best you can
Dr Dreidel: Magorn: Protect the civillians as best you canHardest part of that job? Identifying "civilians".How do you tell the difference between one guy carrying an AK-47 to shop for groceries with one who does it for a living?
Dr Dreidel: Magorn: Protect the civillians as best you canHardest part of that job? Identifying "civilians".How do you tell the difference between one guy carrying an AK-47 to shop for groceries with one who does it for a living? How do you tell the difference when the same guy holding the same AK-47 uses it for shopping and for a paramilitary organization (because the accounting firm he used to work for in Aleppo is "no longer taking client requests")?If they wear uniforms, they're probably not civilians, but many of the parties to this conflict don't wear uniforms. I also wonder if there are only two sides to this conflict (the meta-conflict, I mean - the Battle for Syria's Soul, not the Assads-vs-rebels).
DROxINxTHExWIND: The guy holding a box of Tampons has a wife who is a terrorist.
Dr Dreidel: DROxINxTHExWIND: The guy holding a box of Tampons has a wife who is a terrorist.Well, sure - what do you think all them fuses are for?
MichiganFTL: Dr Dreidel: DROxINxTHExWIND: The guy holding a box of Tampons has a wife who is a terrorist.Well, sure - what do you think all them fuses are for?If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Magorn: "people of Syria, the Cities of Aleppo and Homs" are now under the protection of the United Nations.
wingnutx: anfrind:[s3.otherpeoplespixels.com image 337x480]"They can be slain!"What is that from? I can't quite place it. Thanks.
garkola: There's no particular reason for the US to get involved for Syria because realistically, there's no good outcome. Align with rebels? Why? There's no guarantee that they'll be any better than Assad. Align with Assad? Why?Let them kill each other, and say "we will deal with whichever government is the legitimate government of Syria."
Mock26: That guy is seriously bat schitt crazy.
Magorn: I'm personally suprised the Syrain conflict hasn't brought all the "end times" crazies out of the woodwork at this point. Mind you it's been a while since I spent much time tracking the beliefs of these nuts but I swear that int he old days at least they were convinced that the "Gog" mentioned in the Bible was Persia?Iran, and "Magog" was Russia, and I think an alliance of these two powers was supposed to signal the beginning of Armageddon or somesuch. Well, they ARE on the same side in the Syrian conflict...
anfrind: The High Crusade
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