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(Yahoo)   The arrest of Utah businessman and noted philanthropist Jeremy Johnson raises an interesting question: Should you really get credit for good deeds you do when they are paid for with money you defrauded from other people?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 16
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2013-06-17 02:31:34 PM
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Should you really get credit for good deeds you do when they are paid for with money you defrauded from other people?

Ask Bill Gates
2013-06-17 12:29:08 PM
4 votes:
Subby, consider these scenarios:

1) You are standing on a subway platform and I push you onto the tracks. A train is coming. Your ankle is broken and you cannot lift yourself out of the way. At the last possible second, I jump down and knock you sideways on the other track. The train misses us by inches. I help you up to the platform.

2) We go on a target shooting trip together. While your back is to me, I shoot you in the leg, severing your femoral artery. You lose consciousness. I stop the bleeding with a tourniquet and carry you on my back to the car, then speed to the nearest hospital. As a result of the operation that you receive, you lose your leg, but your life is spared.

3) You come over for a barbecue. I feed you a hamburger, which unknown to you I have poisoned with strychnine. As you lie convulsing in agony, I call poison control. The ambulance arrives and I inform the doctors of exactly what your dose was. They are able to save your life.

In all of these instances, have I not saved you from certain death? There, now your dumb question has been answered.
2013-06-17 01:53:52 PM
3 votes:
Why not. Isn't that what liberals do?
2013-06-17 02:44:56 PM
2 votes:

TanSau: Should you really get credit for good deeds you do when they are paid for with money you defrauded from other people?

Ask Bill Gates


Glad Somebody mentioned him, though, to be fair, he didn;t defraud it so much as ruthlessly accumulate it by unethical means while crushing his competititors.

?still makesme feel old when I try to explain to people that Bill Gates used to be the devil, that Microsoft was the all ecompassing tech  leviathan with a near monopoly on the Market, and Apple was a plucky little company beloved by artists and free-thinkers for being the ethical little company that stood up to "the Man"
2013-06-17 02:07:12 PM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Its amazing how charitable folks can be with someone else's money. I see it all of the time when I reject folks expense reports. The first time they submit an ER, there's a $15 tip to the cab driver, 30% tip to the waiter, etc. Once I tell them that their tips aren't reimburseable the amounts reduce significantly.


Tips over x% (insert company policy here) shouldn't be reimbursed, but a company that doesn't reimburse ANY tips is just plain screwing its employees.
2013-06-17 04:54:16 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: obamadidcoke: The charges against Mr. Johnson are obviously false. Mormons don't do evil things.

I read somewhere not too long ago that three or four Utah Coutnies have a higher rate of financial fraud prosecutions than anywere else in the US.  And while part of that is that Mormons tend to make easier victims tham others because they tend to be so trusting, but only with other Mormons.


MLM is endemic out here.  It looks like a pyramid, turned on it's side...

/How much of JJ's stolen money went back to the LDS church?  10%
2013-06-17 04:21:14 PM
1 votes:

obamadidcoke: The charges against Mr. Johnson are obviously false. Mormons don't do evil things.


I read somewhere not too long ago that three or four Utah Coutnies have a higher rate of financial fraud prosecutions than anywere else in the US.  And while part of that is that Mormons tend to make easier victims tham others because they tend to be so trusting, but only with other Mormons.
2013-06-17 03:44:39 PM
1 votes:

Kangaroo_Ralph: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x855]

You can't cheat the mountain, Pilgrim.
Mountain's got its own ways.


Indeed - one of the best movies ever.
2013-06-17 03:29:14 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Your sentence should be doubled because you gave philanthropy a bad name.


Philanthropy is when one steals a billion and gives away a million.
2013-06-17 03:11:14 PM
1 votes:

ditkaman: Why not. Isn't that what liberals do?


Actually, the examples I can think of were pretty conservative.  Charles Keating, Baby Doc Duvalier, and Robert Maxwell.....

But that was all ok, because the money was given to Mother Theresa, and she makes everyting ok.
2013-06-17 02:47:36 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: TanSau: Should you really get credit for good deeds you do when they are paid for with money you defrauded from other people?

Ask Bill Gates

Glad Somebody mentioned him, though, to be fair, he didn;t defraud it so much as ruthlessly accumulate it by unethical means while crushing his competititors.

?still makesme feel old when I try to explain to people that Bill Gates used to be the devil, that Microsoft was the all ecompassing tech  leviathan with a near monopoly on the Market, and Apple was a plucky little company beloved by artists and free-thinkers for being the ethical little company that stood up to "the Man"


Either you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become IBM Microsoft Apple.
2013-06-17 02:15:26 PM
1 votes:

ObiWanSpicoli: Ted Bundy once worked for a suicide hotline and probably saved several lives


Heroism: The Bright Side of Psychopathy?

Heroes and psychopaths may have something in common, according to new research that links psychopathic personality traits to selfless behavior.

Yay! We're saved... Oh! crap!
2013-06-17 02:02:43 PM
1 votes:

neversubmit: Robin Hood


White Bulger.  He was always helping people out giving them money or a job, all the while selling their kids drugs
2013-06-17 02:02:16 PM
1 votes:
The correct answer is: only if the people you stole from did not include me and all of the people you stole from have significantly more money than me.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-17 01:57:17 PM
1 votes:
Remember folks, all your Christian values can be suspended just by saying these magic words: "Don't take it personally, it's only business."
2013-06-17 01:56:02 PM
1 votes:
Jeremiah Johnson made his way into the mountains
Bettin' on forgettin' all the troubles that he knew
The trail was wide and narrow
And the eagle or the sparrow
Showed the path he was to follow as they flew.
A mountain man's a lonely man
And he leaves a life behind
It ought to have been different, but oftimes you will find,
That the story doesn't always go that way you had in mind.
 
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