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2013-06-17 12:02:59 AM
s3.jspenguin.org
 
2013-06-17 12:18:57 AM
I need a written transcript, I couldn't watch that.
 
2013-06-17 12:29:01 AM
Well, that's a buzzkill.
 
2013-06-17 12:29:29 AM
I forgot the question three quarters of a second into her answer.
 
2013-06-17 12:31:58 AM

fusillade762: I need a written transcript, I couldn't watch that.


She was asked "what does it say about society that women are the breadwinner in 40% of households while still only paid 75% what men earn?"

This was her answer:

I think we can relate this back to education and how we are continuing to try to strive to (pause) figure out how to create jobs right now. That is the biggest problem and I think, especially the men, are um, seen as the leaders of this and so need to try and figure out how to create education better so we can solve this problem.
 
2013-06-17 12:37:26 AM
Not nearly as bad as Caite Upton, the original, the such as, but still pretty bad.
 
2013-06-17 12:50:38 AM
I hadn't noticed there was already a greenlit thread, so here are my thoughts transposed from the other:

It came off to me as if she was asked a question she hadn't prepped for and she was trying desperately (and unsuccessfully) to adapt an answer she had prepped for another question to fit the one she was asked.

Great politicians can do it seamlessly, she proved she is not cut out for a career in politics.

I almost wish Nene had called her out on her non-answer.  There has to be some overlap in women that compete in beauty pageants and women who can answer a current events/public policy question intelligently.  It would be nice if we placed as much emphasis on brainpower as we did on how they look in an evening gown or swimsuit.
 
2013-06-17 01:02:00 AM
Stopped watching when she paused. Just too painful. It's almost like their knowledge and oratory isn't what they're actually judged on.
 
2013-06-17 01:02:35 AM
Even she know in the middle of it that she had completely missed the train on that thought.
 
2013-06-17 01:06:26 AM
"create education better"

Sure...
 
2013-06-17 01:45:39 AM
She pulled a Palin by attempting to return to the "talking points."  Pretty girl, I wish her well.
 
2013-06-17 02:04:22 AM
To be fair, it's probably difficult to answer a question about unequal pay based on gender while wearing a prom dress that has been designed to expose maximum cleavage.
 
2013-06-17 02:09:43 AM
I don't know how I'd do under pressure like that, but I hope to God I wouldn't stumble so hard. I guess that's what happens when there isn't an actual thought in one's brain, and you're trying to tie the question to the completely different answer you memorized. It takes decades for a Senator to learn how to do that!
 
2013-06-17 02:35:18 AM

MoonPirate: Stopped watching when she paused. Just too painful. It's almost like their knowledge and oratory isn't what they're actually judged on.


*GASP!*. I think I need to lay down now.
 
2013-06-17 02:39:05 AM

WI241TH: fusillade762: I need a written transcript, I couldn't watch that.

She was asked "what does it say about society that women are the breadwinner in 40% of households while still only paid 75% what men earn?"

This was her answer:

I think we can relate this back to education and how we are continuing to try to strive to (pause) figure out how to create jobs right now. That is the biggest problem and I think, especially the men, are um, seen as the leaders of this and so need to try and figure out how to create education better so we can solve this problem.


I had to stop
I couldnt finish
 
2013-06-17 02:55:42 AM

vartian: To be fair, it's probably difficult to answer a question about unequal pay based on gender while wearing a prom dress that has been designed to expose maximum cleavage.


Honestly, her best response would have been, "Wait, I thought we were all here to perpetuate gender inequality."
 
2013-06-17 03:00:06 AM
Should've said "because pageants like this encourage young women to focus on makeup instead of math."
 
2013-06-17 04:18:37 AM

WI241TH: She was asked "what does it say about society that women are the breadwinner in 40% of households while still only paid 75% what men earn?"


It says women need to become more desirable to work or live with.
 
2013-06-17 04:36:22 AM
The funds easily earned by just having a vagina added to the overall monthly budget of the female more than compensates for the 25% less pay in the work place.

/ducks
 
2013-06-17 04:51:45 AM
I am create educationing for just you only.
 
2013-06-17 04:56:11 AM
two questions:

1. Why haven't the femnazi's done away with this type of pageant yet?
2. Why hasn't someone cashed in on creating a Mr. America/Universe pageant yet?
 
2013-06-17 04:56:14 AM
The internet has really ruined that Billy Madison quote. There's probably grandmas out there using it in chain e-mails
 
2013-06-17 04:59:20 AM
I thought Miss Like And Such As was a lot cuter. Miss Figure Out And Create Education Better looks like a 30 something woman.
 
2013-06-17 05:00:05 AM
This is the difference between memorizing answers and learning impromptu speaking.
 
2013-06-17 05:00:15 AM

WI241TH: fusillade762: I need a written transcript, I couldn't watch that.

She was asked "what does it say about society that women are the breadwinner in 40% of households while still only paid 75% what men earn?"

This was her answer:

I think we can relate this back to education and how we are continuing to try to strive to (pause) figure out how to create jobs right now. That is the biggest problem and I think, especially the men, are um, seen as the leaders of this and so need to try and figure out how to create education better so we can solve this problem.


To be fair, she has a point.
 
2013-06-17 05:02:10 AM
How's that "last in the nation in per-pupil spending" doing for ya Utah?

Of course, she was probably raised by nannies and private tutors....so defund public ed and vouchers for all!
 
2013-06-17 05:02:59 AM

Wolf892: two questions:

1. Why haven't the femnazi's done away with this type of pageant yet?
2. Why hasn't someone cashed in on creating a Mr. America/Universe pageant yet?


Ummm...

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-06-17 05:03:30 AM
It's like she's a walking diorama for the justification to continue unequal pay, and at the same time a reason showing how screwed up our society is that it produces individuals completely unable to answer the question......mostly because her best answer would've been.

Because things like this pageant still exist.
 
2013-06-17 05:03:53 AM

Wolf892: two questions:

1. Why haven't the femnazi's done away with this type of pageant yet?
2. Why hasn't someone cashed in on creating a Mr. America/Universe pageant yet?


upload.wikimedia.org

These guys will help lift that rock you've been living under.
 
2013-06-17 05:04:22 AM
Ladies, honesty will win your fans over!  Repeat after me "Awoo know dat sh*t, I don't CARE about that sh*t, and I plan on getting  paid to be pretty, which probably pays a lot more than some no man having b*tch can make for her bebbehs at Mickey D's, and tough sh*t, gurrl."  The applause would be louder than bombs,
 
2013-06-17 05:05:18 AM

mrjared: This is the difference between memorizing answers and learning impromptu speaking.



Extemporaneous.

/its not hard
 
2013-06-17 05:05:29 AM

namatad: I had to stop
I couldnt finish


I finished early.

Then I went back and watched it with sound on.
 
2013-06-17 05:06:03 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: Wolf892: two questions:

1. Why haven't the femnazi's done away with this type of pageant yet?
2. Why hasn't someone cashed in on creating a Mr. America/Universe pageant yet?

Ummm...

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x620]


Curses.  Always a minute late and a shilling short.
 
2013-06-17 05:09:23 AM
It's not an easy question. Hell, the pause indicates that she forgot what it was halfway through her answer. But even if she asked "could you repeat the question, please?" to buy a few seconds to think about it, it is still not a question that can even be explained in a short sentence or two, much less resolved.

I mean, seriously. "What does that say about our society?" Who the hell comes up with loaded questions like that? What are you expecting her to say in the 34 seconds that she's in front of the mic? You expect her to launch into a monologue on female empowerment, the changing workplace landscape, the wage gap, domestic care-giving dynamics and the depreciation of the purchasing power of the most important segment of the working class over the past 30 years?!?

Seriously, fark off. Ask her about world peace or something. Don't put her on the spot and ask her to summarize a complex, multi-faceted subject that requires an essay's worth of understanding and explaining.
 
2013-06-17 05:10:24 AM
"That is not a hair question."
 
2013-06-17 05:12:15 AM
"Sounds like you're trying to make me say something controversial. Perhaps you'd like me to lash out at the way our society unfairly values the labor of a woman? That men are generally rotten sexist pigs. Well sorry, I'm not taking that bait, thank you. By the way, I can put my feet behind my head and I take it in the pooper."
 
2013-06-17 05:13:35 AM
If she weren't so damn pretty i'd be ashamed to be from Utah.

One thing about Utah girls...they know how to make a sammich.
 
2013-06-17 05:14:24 AM

Munchkin City Coroner: Wolf892: two questions:

1. Why haven't the femnazi's done away with this type of pageant yet?
2. Why hasn't someone cashed in on creating a Mr. America/Universe pageant yet?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 733x416]

These guys will help lift that rock you've been living under.


Yeah, but do these guys also have to dress up in tuxedos and answer questions and showcase a talent? Or do they just strut the muscles and then go home? I'm talking about a straight cross over all male competition that is pretty much a recreation of everything the females go through. And the winner of this male contest wouldn't be the dude with the biggest muscles, it would be the guy that almost every woman of age in North America would drop their panties for.
 
2013-06-17 05:14:41 AM

StoPPeRmobile:
/its not hard


Maybe not yours. Mine certainly is.
 
2013-06-17 05:14:45 AM

mrjared: This is the difference between memorizing answers and learning impromptu speaking.


Came here to say this. No child left behind is finished, but the cognitive disasters it created will be getting on stage for decades.

Proof she was not thinking: she was asked a fairly complex question and she did not pause AT ALL before her answer.
 
2013-06-17 05:15:47 AM

Ishkur: It's not an easy question. Hell, the pause indicates that she forgot what it was halfway through her answer. But even if she asked "could you repeat the question, please?" to buy a few seconds to think about it, it is still not a question that can even be explained in a short sentence or two, much less resolved.

I mean, seriously. "What does that say about our society?" Who the hell comes up with loaded questions like that? What are you expecting her to say in the 34 seconds that she's in front of the mic? You expect her to launch into a monologue on female empowerment, the changing workplace landscape, the wage gap, domestic care-giving dynamics and the depreciation of the purchasing power of the most important segment of the working class over the past 30 years?!?

Seriously, fark off. Ask her about world peace or something. Don't put her on the spot and ask her to summarize a complex, multi-faceted subject that requires an essay's worth of understanding and explaining.


Yeah right, ask her a question about how to go about achieving WORLD PEACE - way more simple... she'll nail that one ;-)
 
2013-06-17 05:19:42 AM
Miss Create education better does not compare to Miss Like such as
 
2013-06-17 05:19:45 AM

Wolf892: Yeah, but do these guys also have to dress up in tuxedos and answer questions and showcase a talent? Or do they just strut the muscles and then go home? I'm talking about a straight cross over all male competition that is pretty much a recreation of everything the females go through. And the winner of this male contest wouldn't be the dude with the biggest muscles, it would be the guy that almost every woman of age in North America would drop their panties for.


It's called every farking day of the year.

Unlike women, men actually have to go out and earn their pay.
 
2013-06-17 05:19:50 AM

August11: mrjared: This is the difference between memorizing answers and learning impromptu speaking.

Came here to say this. No child left behind is finished, but the cognitive disasters it created will be getting on stage for decades.

Proof she was not thinking: she was asked a fairly complex question and she did not pause AT ALL before her answer.


She gleaned it was a gender and / or education issue, and not a map issue.
 
2013-06-17 05:19:56 AM

Bucknutz: Yeah right, ask her a question about how to go about achieving WORLD PEACE - way more simple... she'll nail that one ;-)


In one line, something she's probably rehearsed since age eight? oh, easy!

Q: "How would you go about achieving world peace?"
A: "I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way."
 
2013-06-17 05:24:27 AM
Excellent column in the Guardian this weekend on the 21st century protrayal of men as bungling fools, and its implication for children's role models. The journalist had been to see a production of To Kill A Mockingbird:

'The most moving moment for me in the play was when, after conducting a brilliant but doomed defence of the unjustly accused black worker Tom Robinson, Atticus walks past the public gallery where his children, Scout and Jem, have been watching. One of Robinson's supporters, the Rev Sykes, says to them, "stand up, your father's passing". They stand - proudly.
I found this very moving, because it is a model of fatherhood lost to the modern world. We are all Homer Simpson now. This is inevitable and justified. Centuries of women being second-class citizens were bound, in the righteous backlash that is feminism, to curtail the status of men, who were revealed to be - rather than heroic - sexist, emotionally narrow and sometimes violent (like the "bad" father in To Kill a Mockingbird, the wicked and abusive Bob Ewell).'

I hadn't considered how that bungling fool portrayal had come about.

Full piece here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/14/men-boys-second-cl a ss-citizens">http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/14/men-b oys-second-cla ss-citizens ">Link
 
2013-06-17 05:24:37 AM
Who wants to sponsor Ishkur for next year's pageant?
 
2013-06-17 05:25:41 AM

mrjared: This is the difference between memorizing answers and learning impromptu speaking just knowing stuff.


FTFY
 
2013-06-17 05:25:57 AM
Gig103: I don't know how I'd do under pressure like that, but I hope to God I wouldn't stumble so hard. I guess that's what happens when there isn't an actual thought in one's brain, and you're trying to tie the question to the completely different answer you memorized. It takes decades for a Senator to learn how to do that!


One "out there" question isnt so bad. I ran for mayor and the guy I was running against would always just give a prepared response to a question that wasnt asked.
 
2013-06-17 05:29:08 AM

vartian: To be fair, it's probably difficult to answer a question about unequal pay based on gender while wearing a prom dress that has been designed to expose maximum cleavage.


I could probably do it. Now enjoy the image of an overweight man with moob cleavage in a prom dress answering a wage gap question.
 
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