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(Opposing Views)   Five-year-old girl expertly trolls Westboro Baptist Church, is already being scouted by Anonymous   (opposingviews.com) divider line 124
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2013-06-17 02:54:29 AM  
Meh, best to just ignore that "church" and its crazies.
 
2013-06-17 03:47:30 AM  

calbert: I hate all 3 persons mentioned in that headline.


...and that's the important thing, that you feel superior to all of them.
 
2013-06-17 03:54:35 AM  

BeatrixK: legion_of_doo: More free publicity for WBC. Good jerb, little girl.

THIS!

The WBC doesn't give two shiats about whether or not ANYONE believes their message:  They just want someone to get pissed off enough to try and stop them.  Their only goal has nothing to do with outing sin, and everything to do with 'Please little 8 lb, 9 ounce baby Jesus barely forming his words, please let someone shove us, throw something at us, or tell us to move from public property so we can sue!"  They then get to keep Uncle Sam out of the collection plate since they are a church and all awards are tax free.

This just gives them publicity:  they are like a petulant child - good or bad attention doesn't matter...just that they get attention.


So, we should never ever do anything useful in front of people we hate, because it might give them attention?
 
2013-06-17 04:04:38 AM  
"Since we cannot stop them, the next best thing is to smother it with love."

Sounds perilously close to, "If it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it."
 
2013-06-17 05:13:33 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: namegoeshere: Just how much money is Opposing Views paying Drew these days? Because it is not a good enough news source to justify all these greens.

greens are good for you... didn't your parents tell you that when you were growing up?

/eat your greens... there are starving people in Africa


Don't forget your beans and celery.

/ Don't forget to bring your fake ID
 
2013-06-17 07:42:59 AM  
Good for her PARENTS.
This little girl didn't even make the lemonade and do you honestly think she sits in class painting red squares and thinking about how there needs to be more greenbelts in the city?
To top it off, I am pretty sure Opposing Viewpoints is ran by the WBC, judging by the inflammatory garbage posted there.
/Stop whoring out your kids for your cause.
//You too, WBC.
 
2013-06-17 08:00:21 AM  
Isn't Jayden a boys name, normally used by white trash?
 
2013-06-17 08:05:23 AM  

cashman: NBC News has a more stable link:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/16/18989165-when-hate-mongers - give-you-lemons-set-up-a-lemonade-stand


images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Has a better idea what to do with the lemons...
 
2013-06-17 08:34:01 AM  

IlGreven: BeatrixK: legion_of_doo: More free publicity for WBC. Good jerb, little girl.

THIS!

The WBC doesn't give two shiats about whether or not ANYONE believes their message:  They just want someone to get pissed off enough to try and stop them.  Their only goal has nothing to do with outing sin, and everything to do with 'Please little 8 lb, 9 ounce baby Jesus barely forming his words, please let someone shove us, throw something at us, or tell us to move from public property so we can sue!"  They then get to keep Uncle Sam out of the collection plate since they are a church and all awards are tax free.

This just gives them publicity:  they are like a petulant child - good or bad attention doesn't matter...just that they get attention.

So, we should never ever do anything useful in front of people we hate, because it might give them attention?


1) never hate. lead you to the dark side, it can.
2) those WBC guys should be ignored. they thrive on the publicity. some dumb kid is like dollar signs. and the WBC doesn't even have to rent a hotel room or pay for gas.
 
2013-06-17 08:38:48 AM  
Lemonade stand? I hope she has a business license.
 
2013-06-17 10:57:48 AM  

IlGreven: calbert: I hate all 3 persons mentioned in that headline.

...and that's the important thing, that you feel superior to all of them.


What's important is that you feel superior to calbert.
 
2013-06-17 12:04:54 PM  
Seeing as how these lemonade stories usually turn out, the cops will shut her down before the WBC does
 
2013-06-17 12:44:38 PM  

RobSeace: cashman: NBC News has a more stable link:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/16/18989165-when-hate-mongers - give-you-lemons-set-up-a-lemonade-stand

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 385x570]

Has a better idea what to do with the lemons...


He doesn't want your damn lemons.
 
2013-06-17 01:18:45 PM  
Good for her, but what we need to do is stop all coverage of any of their actives and never speak their name again. Even when these guys show up at a protest the reporter should just ignore them or say something like "Yeah we have some protesters over there, but the real story is......"
 
2013-06-17 01:20:24 PM  

ciberido: He doesn't want your damn lemons.


I just bought one of these, too:
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-06-17 02:29:20 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-17 04:18:54 PM  

rynthetyn: I knew what homosexuality was when I was five, or at least vaguely so. This being the early '80s, the Southern Baptist's pet issue was still the evils or rock music and homosexuality was still something talked about in whispers, but when you're allowed to watch the news you pick up on things. Though, I may not have been the most normal of children, as far as news watching, since I remember watching news reports when the Marines were still in Lebanon and they pulled out before I was 3.


I knew I had to HIDE being bisexual from other people in the 4th or 5th grade.  How long before that I knew I WAS bisexual I don't remember.  From what reading I've done, knowing that you're gay (or bisexual or any flavor of LBGTQ)  comes as early as age 10 for many people, though of course there are also may cases where people discover this about themselves in their teens, 20s, or later.

But a five-year-old knowing that some people don't like gay people?  I really don't find that all that far-fetched.  Some research suggests even age three is likely enough.
 
2013-06-17 05:06:27 PM  

Senseless_drivel: RedVentrue:
Thet's senseless, and it's drivel too! Good job.

I'm a big believer in truth in advertising, whatever RedVentrue means.


It's somewhat obscure, and enigmatic.
 
2013-06-17 05:10:55 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: IlGreven: calbert: I hate all 3 persons mentioned in that headline.

...and that's the important thing, that you feel superior to all of them.

What's important is that you feel superior to calbert.


What's important is that you feel superior to IlGreven. The circle of superiority is the flywheel of the engine that drives FARK.
 
2013-06-17 06:04:01 PM  
For anyone with legal expertise who wants to give an official "I am not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice" comment: What are the practical chances of suing WBC for libel or slander? I think the rub is proving that their messages cause harm, but has anyone gone about this approach? Seems like if they could prove that then they could finally get sued back into obscurity.
 
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2013-06-17 08:11:22 PM  
KnowledgeJunkie

You need to prove a false statement as well as harm. If WBC says "God hates (your name here)", the statement can't be proved false. If WBC says "Your son deserved to die because he fought in a stupid war to bring cheetos* to Afghanistan," that's protected opinion and/or not provably false. The cheetos part is not a false statement about anybody who can sue; it's a statement about U.S. policy. Deserved to die is protected opinion. Also, if they attack dead people, dead people can't sue for defamation.

* Substitute whatever they're going on about this week.
 
2013-06-18 12:03:56 AM  

bongon247: also, i struggle to see how any adult who teaches their child to stand up against empty hatred is wrong.  So this talk of using a child for ones own ends seems just as empty to me. Isn't that what we teach our children?  The things we are willing to stand up for?  How is this wrong again?


My issue with it is less that she's standing up against hatred (or standing up for what her parents are willing to stand up for) and more with the fact that kids, ideally, shouldn't be worried about these kinds of things. I think they should be playing and having fun at that age, not tackling social injustice. Another issue of concern is that people say out of one side of their mouths how terrible is to "sexualize" children, and then out of the other decide to make them standard-bearers for the gay marriage equality battle, or even scarier, for the transgender equality battle. Five-year-olds, in the absence of direct adult meddling, aren't and shouldn't be thinking about this kind of stuff. Explaining gay marriage to kids is okay - definitely ways to explain love and marriage without any reference to sex - but anything beyond that is simply saddling kids with adult problems and using them as mouthpieces for political agendas that are beyond their understanding and probably should be. But then again, I don't see any great harm in a kid drawing a rainbow, setting up a lemonade stand, and getting her picture in the paper - but recognizing that isn't mutually exclusive with calling douchebaggery on the part of the adults who probably generated this just so they could get their own pictures and comments out there.
 
2013-06-18 12:31:40 AM  

Ranger Rover: bongon247: also, i struggle to see how any adult who teaches their child to stand up against empty hatred is wrong.  So this talk of using a child for ones own ends seems just as empty to me. Isn't that what we teach our children?  The things we are willing to stand up for?  How is this wrong again?

My issue with it is less that she's standing up against hatred (or standing up for what her parents are willing to stand up for) and more with the fact that kids, ideally, shouldn't be worried about these kinds of things. I think they should be playing and having fun at that age, not tackling social injustice. Another issue of concern is that people say out of one side of their mouths how terrible is to "sexualize" children, and then out of the other decide to make them standard-bearers for the gay marriage equality battle, or even scarier, for the transgender equality battle. Five-year-olds, in the absence of direct adult meddling, aren't and shouldn't be thinking about this kind of stuff. Explaining gay marriage to kids is okay - definitely ways to explain love and marriage without any reference to sex - but anything beyond that is simply saddling kids with adult problems and using them as mouthpieces for political agendas that are beyond their understanding and probably should be. But then again, I don't see any great harm in a kid drawing a rainbow, setting up a lemonade stand, and getting her picture in the paper - but recognizing that isn't mutually exclusive with calling douchebaggery on the part of the adults who probably generated this just so they could get their own pictures and comments out there.


Maybe if kids were more worried about things like this there would be less of it in the world.
 
2013-06-18 01:10:28 AM  

Mock26: Maybe if kids were more worried about things like this there would be less of it in the world.


I think there would probably be more farked up adults who hadn't had any childhoods because their parents were shoving agendas on them. I don't really think kids should be worried about anything except learning (which they do constantly anyway), socializing, and comin' in for dinner when the streetlights come on.
But hell, I won't tell you how to raise yours. If you want your kids advocating for social justice (or your conception of it, since they realistically can't have much of a developed one of their own) more power to you - and you'll be more likely to get your kid's picture and quotes in internet news articles than I will, too, so that's an added bonus if that's important to you.
By the way, I would feel completely different about this if it were a ten or twelve year old, maybe even a precocious eight year old. At the point where kids can read and think independently, a lot changes.
 
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