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2013-06-16 07:45:43 PM
kaosradioaustin.org
 
2013-06-16 07:45:50 PM
Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.
 
2013-06-16 07:57:15 PM
I'd have no problem with this as long as the people haul their trash and dog poop out with them, but you know people will trash the place.

/it's why we can't have nice things
 
2013-06-16 08:09:51 PM
Nuke the San Andreas Fault and we can start afresh with an entirely new waterfront.
 
2013-06-16 08:09:54 PM

Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


I believe in this case we're talking rich Democrats showing their true colors
 
2013-06-16 08:10:02 PM
Republicans don't care poor people either, but then again at least they don't lie about it. Liberals claim to love poor people, ya know, as long as they live in a different zip code.
 
2013-06-16 08:12:16 PM

Valiente: Nuke the San Andreas Fault and we can start afresh with an entirely new waterfront.


Otisburg?
 
2013-06-16 08:12:55 PM

Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


Yeah, of all the things to make partisan, this is perhaps the dumbest.
 
2013-06-16 08:12:55 PM
NIMBY knows no polictics or party.
 
2013-06-16 08:13:40 PM
Hell, Dick Cheney was even better. Go after the locals, too. Even the police boat was blocking his precious view.
 
2013-06-16 08:14:32 PM

Mrtraveler01: Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.

Yeah, of all the things to make partisan, this is perhaps the dumbest.


You know Fark. Anyone that isn't on your side is in league with Satan.
 
2013-06-16 08:15:03 PM
Lando Lincoln:
Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


Show me one conservative, just ONE, who has blocked the poor from using a beach.  Restrict health care, legal rights,  and decimate worker protections leading to a perpetually desperate serf class?  Sure.  But there is no evidence that beach restriction is anything but a liberal Jewish/saucer people plot to destroy America.
 
2013-06-16 08:15:18 PM
I used to live on a beach on Long Island. I wasn't rich or anything, but I can tell you this: Wealthy people keep the beach nice. The general public destroys it with filth. They leave mounds of garbage everywhere, beer bottles, cigarette buts, old beach stuff they just don't want anymore. I once saw a woman change a baby's diaper, then fling the diaper toward the sawgrass, over the heads of fifty other people laying on the beach. People are disgusting and they destroy the environment. Rich people keep it nice. Make of that what you will.
- jmatt , Northampton, 16/6/2013 20:00
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2013-06-16 08:16:24 PM
Screw those jerks. They didn't get rich on their own and they have no right to deny the public access to anything.  Their property, after all is only theirs so long as the masses choose to be in line enough not to revolt and take it away from them.  Thats why we need a 95% tax rate, to fund the cops necessary to protect the other 5% of some rich farker's wealth from people who will steal it at the drop of a hat.
 
2013-06-16 08:17:08 PM
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and Malibu was a bit of a playground, and well, cmon, subby has a point.

The law is the public owns the beaches, and yet in Malibu some of our most privileged, wealthy, and liberal film makers and actors keep the public off, and these same people if you asked them are almost invariably liberal.

I think it's silly to deny that while in other threads laughing at conservatives that feel they are not represented in Hollywood.
 
2013-06-16 08:17:54 PM
Rich Democrats don't want poor people on their beaches.

Rich republicans want poor people on their beaches (so they can Release The Hounds).
 
2013-06-16 08:18:19 PM
Same thing in the Hamptons.
 
2013-06-16 08:18:54 PM

Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


Pfft! Rich conservatives don't believe in "public" beaches. Somebody owns it, and it isn't the "public" sonny.

Still, it doesn't matter who this is: They can go fark themselves.
 
2013-06-16 08:19:38 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Republicans don't care poor people either, but then again at least they don't lie about it. Liberals claim to love poor people, ya know, as long as they live in a different zip code.


I'm reading the article and it doesn't say what rich liberals are protesting this.  It say that some residents are protesting this and, by the way, David Geffen and Pierce Brosnan are residents.  Whether they are leading the fight or couldn't give two shirts, the article doesn't say.  And not a single name (or political affiliation) is named.

Misleading submission is misleading.
 
2013-06-16 08:20:24 PM
I parked at the Von's near the intersection and when I came back from the beach my rental car was towed. Malibu residents are some real hard-assed jackasses.
 
2013-06-16 08:21:01 PM

RoyBatty: I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and Malibu was a bit of a playground, and well, cmon, subby has a point.

The law is the public owns the beaches, and yet in Malibu some of our most privileged, wealthy, and liberal film makers and actors keep the public off, and these same people if you asked them are almost invariably liberal.

I think it's silly to deny that while in other threads laughing at conservatives that feel they are not represented in Hollywood.


Like I said, it doesn't matter if a beach town is conservative or liberal, if it's rich, then they do their best to restrict beach access as possible (by providing little to no public access). I think it's stupid that it should even be debated because it's been a topic for debate in Florida as well.

Making it a "hurr durr liberals" thing like the Daily Fail is trying to do is just stupid.
 
2013-06-16 08:21:17 PM
Shadowtag:You know Fark. Anyone that isn't on your side is in league with Satan.

Pure awesome!
 
2013-06-16 08:21:43 PM

BalugaJoe: Same thing in the Hamptons.


And Palm Beach.

And we know how notoriously liberal that is.
 
2013-06-16 08:21:53 PM

The Lone Gunman: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Republicans don't care poor people either, but then again at least they don't lie about it. Liberals claim to love poor people, ya know, as long as they live in a different zip code.

I'm reading the article and it doesn't say what rich liberals are protesting this.  It say that some residents are protesting this and, by the way, David Geffen and Pierce Brosnan are residents.  Whether they are leading the fight or couldn't give two shirts, the article doesn't say.  And not a single name (or political affiliation) is named.

Misleading submission is misleading.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-16 08:22:01 PM
Find it hard to believe that no conservatives live in Malibu.
 
2013-06-16 08:23:21 PM
Global Warming surcharges heaped onto the middle class until they can't think about visiting the public beaches.
 
2013-06-16 08:23:38 PM
Matt Drudge payed $700,000 just so he wouldn't have to live next to rich muslims.  Do you really think he's above buying a bogus $10 "No Trespassing" sign to keep the unwashed masses away?
 
2013-06-16 08:23:56 PM

Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


Find the conservative in Malibu. I'll wait...
 
2013-06-16 08:24:17 PM
Liberals can be hypocritical assholes too.  More at 11.

/fark 'em, they knew the law when they bought the place
 
2013-06-16 08:24:35 PM

Mrtraveler01: RoyBatty: I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and Malibu was a bit of a playground, and well, cmon, subby has a point.

The law is the public owns the beaches, and yet in Malibu some of our most privileged, wealthy, and liberal film makers and actors keep the public off, and these same people if you asked them are almost invariably liberal.

I think it's silly to deny that while in other threads laughing at conservatives that feel they are not represented in Hollywood.

Like I said, it doesn't matter if a beach town is conservative or liberal, if it's rich, then they do their best to restrict beach access as possible (by providing little to no public access). I think it's stupid that it should even be debated because it's been a topic for debate in Florida as well.

Making it a "hurr durr liberals" thing like the Daily Fail is trying to do is just stupid.


Malibu, Beachfront Malibu is overwhelmingly liberal. They are proud of that, and outspoken, and raise a ton of money for liberal causes.

Unlike conservatives, they are the last people you would expect to be blocking public access to public property.

You would expect conservatives to have this behavior, but would be shocked to find liberals with this behavior.

So noting they are hypocrites is completely reasonable.
 
2013-06-16 08:24:54 PM

gameshowhost: I used to live on a beach on Long Island. I wasn't rich or anything, but I can tell you this: Wealthy people keep the beach nice. The general public destroys it with filth. They leave mounds of garbage everywhere, beer bottles, cigarette buts, old beach stuff they just don't want anymore. I once saw a woman change a baby's diaper, then fling the diaper toward the sawgrass, over the heads of fifty other people laying on the beach. People are disgusting and they destroy the environment. Rich people keep it nice. Make of that what you will.
- jmatt , Northampton, 16/6/2013 20:00


It's always the selfish SnotMommies who have to ruin it for EVERYONE!
 
2013-06-16 08:25:34 PM
If they don't want people on the land, they should buy it. If they can't afford to buy it, then they have no right to complain if people use it. And we're done here.
 
2013-06-16 08:26:40 PM

RoyBatty: Mrtraveler01: RoyBatty: I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and Malibu was a bit of a playground, and well, cmon, subby has a point.

The law is the public owns the beaches, and yet in Malibu some of our most privileged, wealthy, and liberal film makers and actors keep the public off, and these same people if you asked them are almost invariably liberal.

I think it's silly to deny that while in other threads laughing at conservatives that feel they are not represented in Hollywood.

Like I said, it doesn't matter if a beach town is conservative or liberal, if it's rich, then they do their best to restrict beach access as possible (by providing little to no public access). I think it's stupid that it should even be debated because it's been a topic for debate in Florida as well.

Making it a "hurr durr liberals" thing like the Daily Fail is trying to do is just stupid.

Malibu, Beachfront Malibu is overwhelmingly liberal. They are proud of that, and outspoken, and raise a ton of money for liberal causes.

Unlike conservatives, they are the last people you would expect to be blocking public access to public property.

You would expect conservatives to have this behavior, but would be shocked to find liberals with this behavior.

So noting they are hypocrites is completely reasonable.


I think you are confusing liberals with ideological communists.  They aren't that, just ask their business agents.
 
2013-06-16 08:26:51 PM
jonathanjanz.files.wordpress.com

Now we got a nice, quiet little beach community here, and I aim to keep it nice and quiet. So let me make something plain. I don't like you sucking around, bothering our citizens, Lebowski. I don't like your jerk-off name. I don't like your jerk-off face. I don't like your jerk-off behavior, and I don't like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?
 
2013-06-16 08:27:08 PM
Nice troll headline subby.
 
2013-06-16 08:27:39 PM

advex101: Find it hard to believe that no conservatives live in Malibu.


Well, as a Republican friend of mine said:  California isn't nearly as blue as you think.  And Texas isn't nearly as red.
 
2013-06-16 08:27:41 PM

Tommy Moo: If they don't want people on the land, they should buy it. If they can't afford to buy it, then they have no right to complain if people use it. And we're done here.


Not sure they can legally bar people from the beach, even if they own the land.
 
2013-06-16 08:28:02 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.

I believe in this case we're talking rich Democrats showing their true colors


Based on the map published in the 2012 update of the California Political Precinct Index, it's both fair and accurate to characterize the residents of Malibu as liberals. And based on a median home price that hovers around $1.5 million, it's fair and accurate to characterize them as rich. They may even be the one percent.

And God forbid that they should find themselves sharing a beach on a Saturday afternoon with the same brown people who clean their houses and mow their lawns.
 
2013-06-16 08:28:38 PM
I would think that the gawkers and the star-farkers would be a bigger problem than people taking a shiat in front of someones house.

This has to be an old issue. How's it been handled in the past and why isnt the beach up to the waters edge the home owners property?
 
2013-06-16 08:28:47 PM

dookdookdook: Matt Drudge payed $700,000 just so he wouldn't have to live next to rich muslims.  Do you really think he's above buying a bogus $10 "No Trespassing" sign to keep the unwashed masses away?


FTA:

The Internet newsman, 46, is assembling himself quite the compound in rural Southwest Miami-Dade County, according to public records.
The Republican operative who gave the world the Monica Lewinsky scandal purchased his neighbor's property last month in Redland.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/27/3257695/matt-drudge-adds-to-mia m i-dade.html#storylink=cpy
He is literally out in the boonies.

I mean you could live anywhere you want in Miami-Dade and you want to live near the strawberry farms that border the Everglades?
 
2013-06-16 08:29:00 PM

basemetal: I'd have no problem with this as long as the people haul their trash and dog poop out with them, but you know people will trash the place.

/it's why we can't have nice things


In California, the beach up to the highest high tide line is explicitly open to the public.
 
2013-06-16 08:29:12 PM

Tommy Moo: If they don't want people on the land, they should buy it. If they can't afford to buy it, then they have no right to complain if people use it. And we're done here.


Derp.

The rich people can't buy it. By law, the public owns it. So what they do instead is prevent public access to public property.

I understand the home owners have real problems, they have zillion dollar homes with beautiful patios, lots of windows, not much privacy, and at times, only 10 - 30 feet of beach.

But denying public access is just wrong.
 
2013-06-16 08:29:40 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.

I believe in this case we're talking rich Democrats showing their true colors


Because Republicans like Reagan would NEVER live in Cali!
 
2013-06-16 08:29:46 PM
We've been over this before, guys. Plenty of rich liberals take positions on their own property or environs that are anathema to liberal politics as a whole, and rank-and-file libs are as annoyed at them as anyone else.  This is just the "windmills off Martha's Vineyard" thing all over again..
 
2013-06-16 08:30:31 PM

Mithiwithi: We've been over this before, guys. Plenty of rich liberals take positions on their own property or environs that are anathema to liberal politics as a whole, and rank-and-file libs are as annoyed at them as anyone else.  This is just the "windmills off Martha's Vineyard" thing all over again..


I know, I thought the liberals in that case are as stupid as the liberals now.
 
2013-06-16 08:30:43 PM

Lando Lincoln: Rich PEOPLE have a problem with the public using the beaches.

Unless you're trying to convince us that rich conservatives really enjoy sharing beaches with the unwashed masses.


yeah these are democrats:

Malibu is home to stars including Pierce Brosnan and major Hollywood producers including David Geffen, Michael D. Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg
 
2013-06-16 08:31:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: RoyBatty: I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and Malibu was a bit of a playground, and well, cmon, subby has a point.

The law is the public owns the beaches, and yet in Malibu some of our most privileged, wealthy, and liberal film makers and actors keep the public off, and these same people if you asked them are almost invariably liberal.

I think it's silly to deny that while in other threads laughing at conservatives that feel they are not represented in Hollywood.

Like I said, it doesn't matter if a beach town is conservative or liberal, if it's rich, then they do their best to restrict beach access as possible (by providing little to no public access).


And that's one of the things I love about Oregon.  All beaches are public beaches, and if a developer wants to build right off the beach they have to include public access points to the beach in their plans.  And none of this "tiny unlabeled walkway between houses with a gate" crap, but wide-open access ways that have big ol' signs telling you that it is a public access point to the beach.  Usually there's parking included as well.

Oregon: public beaches are serious business.
 
2013-06-16 08:31:59 PM

RoyBatty: Tommy Moo: If they don't want people on the land, they should buy it. If they can't afford to buy it, then they have no right to complain if people use it. And we're done here.

Derp.

The rich people can't buy it. By law, the public owns it. So what they do instead is prevent public access to public property.

I understand the home owners have real problems, they have zillion dollar homes with beautiful patios, lots of windows, not much privacy, and at times, only 10 - 30 feet of beach.

But denying public access is just wrong.


I agree. It's also been an issue in Florida:

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-11-19/news/fl-beach-money-palm -2 0101119_1_fight-beach-erosion-sand-transfer-plant-town-officials

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/apr/11/public-beach-access-sand- co llier-county-moraya-bay/
 
2013-06-16 08:34:21 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Republicans don't care poor people either, but then again at least they don't lie about it. Liberals claim to love poor people, ya know, as long as they live in a different zip code.


I can love poor people without wanting them in my backyard. Do I have to share my docks with everyone too?

Rich people have a bigger backyard of course.
 
2013-06-16 08:36:20 PM

TomD9938: I would think that the gawkers and the star-farkers would be a bigger problem than people taking a shiat in front of someones house.

This has to be an old issue. How's it been handled in the past and why isnt the beach up to the waters edge the home owners property?


Beach access in Malibu is such an old issue there's a Zonker story arc about it in Doonesbury. The residents of Malibu have been dicks about it for decades.
 
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