Dr_Gene: Is your wife also allergic to canola?In any case, it's unlikely the GM factor is to blame for her allergies, as the processed foods (like HFCS and soy sauce) are purified of any GM substances, and without allergenic substances, no allergic reactions.Also, you say she is also allergic to oats... There are no GM oats-- not even an early generation field trial-- so something else in the oats (and likely the corn and soy) is causing her distress.
Kinek: Langdon_777: Kinek: So now that funding and degrees are on the table, what are /Your/ qualifications?/I didn't pull out the credentials argument, you did. Well, one of you did.Yeah it was me, but my background is Economics and I KNOW from first hand experience what motivates corporations.And I say again I just do not trust them - they are motivated by one thing and one thing only -> SHAREHOLDER'S PROFIT!They do not give a fark about anything else - let us think for a moment about the use of Aspesdos (lol I spelt it wrong but the only option on spell check was 'Desperado')...'Asbestos' was defended for decades and it is a natural substance, the dangers from gene manipulation could be with us for forever!!!We should never let profit get anywhere near to things that can destroy all of us.(yes I cannot believe we let private corporations run nuclear plants or deadly virus research - one can never know when the balance sheets will suggest that it is better for the bottom line to release a virus than to stop it.)So in other words, you know nothing of GM technology. Good to know. Keep yelling. I especially like the multiple exclamation marks. In the words of Terry Pratchett; "five exclamation marks are the sure sign of a diseased mind"
Dr_Gene: PunGent:In any case, it's unlikely the GM factor is to blame for her allergies, as the processed foods (like HFCS and soy sauce) are purified of any GM substances, and without allergenic substances, no allergic reactions.Also, you say she is also allergic to oats... There are no GM oats-- not even an early generation field trial-- so something else in the oats (and likely the corn and soy) is causing her distressYour first statement is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY.Citation needed.Your second statement is flat-out incorrect:http://gmopundit.blogspot.com/2005/12/gm-oats-can-tolerate-continuou s- salt.htmlYou shout that my first statement is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY without giving any data, evidence or other rationale. You are the one who needs to provide a citation showing that novel allergens from GM crops have been shown present in processed foods. Since I cannot prove a negative, the onus for proof shift to you.And,If you bothered to go to the original literature instead of relying on a blog summary, you'd know that the GM oat you cite-- now almost ten years later-- was never commercialized, and not even grown outside in "an early generation field trial"-- exactly as I said.
Dr_Gene: I'm willing to be corrected... all you need do is give the citation to ANY US/Canadian court case where Monsanto (or any other company) successfully sued a farmer for inadvertent presence of GMOs.
Silverstaff: I know some people act like anybody who opposes GMO's or supports organic food is some tinfoil-hat wearing weirdo, or that there is no proof that GMOs can be harmful, or that it's all a big dihydrogen monoxide-type scare. . .Let me share with you my little CSB about why I don't trust GMO's anymore and why my household has gone organic in its food.My wife used to have one food allergy, just one. She was allergic to nuts, most severely to almonds, but mildly allergic to most kinds of nuts (except peanuts, for some reason, probably because they are technically legumes and not nuts).Well, two years ago, my wife suddenly went into anaphylactic shock. We rushed her to the hospital, and the ER docs confirmed she had a major allergic reaction. We had no idea to what.A followup appointment at an allergist showed that she was now severely allergic to corn and soy, and also allergic to a lesser extent to oats, as well as her previously documented nut allergies.Well, in case you didn't know, eating around a severe corn allergy SUCKS. That means that anything with HFCS is right out (it's not indistinguishable from sugar, her body can sure as heck tell the difference), and between that and corn syrup, corn starch, "modified food starch" (made from corn starch), corn meal, and such that means pretty much all processed food is right out. Also, corn-fed livestock retain enough corn proteins in the flesh to set off her allergies (to a lesser extent), so we have to buy grass fed beef (and basically skip all pork and chicken, since it's next to impossible to find non-corn-fed pork and chicken).Since HFCS isn't allowed in organic foods, to avoid that in products we started to have to buy organic foods. Then we accidentally bought some organic foods which contained her allergens in them. Oddly enough, she can eat organic oats with no problems, and has a much, much lesser reaction to organic soy and a weaker reaction to organic corn.There's some difference there, that ...
jopy666: Monsanto has bred Terminator seeds and released them in the wild and have affected millions of farmers and ruined their crops. Dont like that? Monsanto will sue you out of existence. THey have filled the entire government with their paid shills, the head of the FDA is also the head of Monsanto and they have shut down any free speach against them time and time again through their legal thugs. GMOs are untested and unregulated and Monsanto has paid off the government to ensure that remains. In europe and Zambia they are banned because its been proven to be near poison for the environment and people and is the sole cause of the near extinction of the bees. Monsanto should be shut down for crimes against humanity and all of the workers and scientists should be jailed and farmers who use their frankenseeds should be banned from farming entirely. The entire planet is near death and no matter where you look monsanto has a hand in killing it.
PunGent: revrendjim: Wheat can't spread on its own in the wild,Unless it's been genetically modified.
Silverstaff: We were at a loss for figuring out why this was so, until we found this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8594427
iaazathot: Woops, that naughty GMO wheat got away. Oh, look you have our GMO wheat in your field, we will be seizing your property after we sue the crap out of you for unauthorized use of our patented wheat. Sure this was an "accident." Oh, and yes, it was sabotage, poor, poor Monsanto always being victimized.
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