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(The Atlantic Wire)   If you're wondering why the NSA seems to be acting like they can get away with anything, it MIGHT have something to do with the fact that more than half of our Senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a classified briefing on PRISM   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 37
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2013-06-16 03:40:13 PM
and again we're paying these a**holes for what?
 
2013-06-16 04:18:33 PM
"The meeting was classified so we don't know who, exactly, decided to play hooky. "

That's not information that should be classified.
 
2013-06-16 04:18:51 PM
Well, when that briefing starts with, 'as you all know from our previous briefings...', the Seors probably didn't think they were going to learn anything new.
 
2013-06-16 04:20:44 PM
That would be one reason, yes.
 
2013-06-16 04:26:39 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "The meeting was classified so we don't know who, exactly, decided to play hooky. "

That's not information that should be classified.


'Zackly. Anybody here seriously think there's any national security reason why we can't know who attended this briefing and who didn't? Smells like bullshiat to me.
 Probably just another "we're totally swell guys" dog 'n' pony show anyway...
/domestic surveillance is wrong
// yes, I opposed it when Dubya was doing it too...
 
2013-06-16 04:32:04 PM
BarkingUnicorn:  That's not information that should be classified.

That's not information that should be classified.

not information that should be classified.
 
2013-06-16 04:33:28 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "The meeting was classified so we don't know who, exactly, decided to play hooky. "

That's not information that should be classified.


Of all the things to keep classified...
 
2013-06-16 04:41:51 PM
Apparently the majority of Senators opted to skip the classified briefing scheduled for a few hours later in favor of departing Washington for some extra family time during the long weekend.

Family time? Well, that's okay then I guess.

As i recall the Senate vote to grant a 4 year extension to the business records section of the PATRIOT Act which went a long way towards enabling the NSA's recent overreaches was pretty much unanimous so the idea that the majority of them are still fine with the idea seems a more likely explanation to me for the dismal turnout than "because long weekend BBQ" .

/That all noted, BBQ *is* kinda awesome.
 
2013-06-16 04:44:06 PM
Eh, most Americans don't care anyway as long as the government promises them it's for their own good to protect them from terrorists. Senators aren't going to lose enough votes in the vast majority of cases over this to worry about it. Especially as the next election is over a year away and Americans will be on to something else shiny by then.
 
2013-06-16 04:44:36 PM
I just emailed both my senators. Wonder what kind of response i'll get.
 
2013-06-16 04:46:01 PM
considering this is being used by senators and reps to score political points, this is pretty farking infuriating. They didn't take the time to do anything about it as it was being implemented, and now they're mad basically because the public is. Farkers.
 
2013-06-16 04:49:42 PM
List who went and who didn't. We need to peel away the old scabs.
 
2013-06-16 04:51:17 PM

Mrtraveler01: BarkingUnicorn: "The meeting was classified so we don't know who, exactly, decided to play hooky. "

That's not information that should be classified.

Of all the things to keep classified...


Wouldn't / shouldn't it be classified that the fact that the information that you don't know exactly who was and who was not at the classified briefing be classified?

/seriously...it costs money to classify documents.  the government is always telling us "don't classify something if it doesn't need to be classified.  the more documents, etc that you can keep from being classified the better."
 
2013-06-16 04:52:09 PM

mtlls: and again we're paying these a**holes for what?


To grandstand for and pass bills written by lobbyists and corporations.
 
2013-06-16 05:00:22 PM
Need to get out of PRISM?   Need a PRISM Break?


http://prism-break.org/      (SFW)
 
2013-06-16 05:08:24 PM
C'mon subby, at this point don't we all know that Congressmen and women consider their first job to be fundraising, and the whole "leading the country" thing comes second?

I stopped voting for incumbents, but haven't figured out a way to convince the rest of the country to follow suit.
 
2013-06-16 05:11:31 PM

Linux_Yes: Need to get out of PRISM?   Need a PRISM Break?

http://prism-break.org/      (SFW)


Hey, look... you posted something that's actually useful. Thanks!
 
2013-06-16 05:20:01 PM
Why would anyone not wanna show up to learn what the NSA are doing with all those solar-powered laser beam guitars?

/Old Canadians might get that.
 
2013-06-16 05:25:04 PM
Umm, they don't give meaningful briefings to the entire Senate.  That's why they have compartmentalized briefings.  This was a stunt so the administration could say "See? They know there's nothing or else they would have attended."   And subby fell for it.

A briefing that includes Speaker of the house, minority leader, House Intelligence leader and ranking member, Senate Majority leader, Senate Minority Leader and the Senate Intelligence Leader and ranking member.

If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.
 
2013-06-16 05:35:52 PM

tbeatty: If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.


Did you misspell Leahy's last name intentionally or is that information classified?
 
2013-06-16 05:53:57 PM

AnonAmbientLight: I just emailed both my senators. Wonder what kind of response i'll get.


A cattle prod to 'nads and a Dave's insanity sauce enema.
 
2013-06-16 05:54:04 PM

Somacandra: BarkingUnicorn:  That's not information that should be classified.

That's not information that should be classified.

not information that should be classified.


They don't want us to know which of them is too lazy to attend a briefing on something as important as this.
 
2013-06-16 06:18:13 PM
How is this not a bigger outrage?
 
2013-06-16 06:38:59 PM
"Apparently the majority of Senators opted to skip the classified briefing scheduled for a few hours later in favor of departing Washington for some extra family time during the long weekend."

What is a short weekend for congress, 3 days, long weekend is 6 days?
 
2013-06-16 07:08:17 PM
And only 24 people could be bothered to comment on this article...
 
2013-06-16 07:15:34 PM

red5ish: tbeatty: If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.

Did you misspell Leahy's last name intentionally or is that information classified?


It was intentional because mocking someone's name is adult and not at all the actions of a preteen.
 
2013-06-16 07:18:27 PM

blue_2501: And only 24 people could be bothered to comment on this article...


People are not really that interested in getting in the weeds on privacy. Using it for manufactured outrage and/or code signalling is enough.
 
2013-06-16 07:22:07 PM
Hasn't the Senate been regularly briefed on all of this for a long time? I figure it's only House members who'd be learning anything new here.
 
2013-06-16 07:30:40 PM
I'd think a couple of decent Washington journalists could compile a partial list pretty quickly by calling senators' offices and hometown politics reporters.
 
2013-06-16 08:02:33 PM

BSABSVR: red5ish: tbeatty: If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.

Did you misspell Leahy's last name intentionally or is that information classified?

It was intentional because mocking someone's name is adult and not at all the actions of a preteen.


It is also an allegorical reference to Patrick "Leaky" Leahy being the source of many Congressional leaks during the Bush years.
 
2013-06-16 08:26:40 PM

TDBoedy: BSABSVR: red5ish: tbeatty: If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.

Did you misspell Leahy's last name intentionally or is that information classified?

It was intentional because mocking someone's name is adult and not at all the actions of a preteen.

It is also an allegorical reference to Patrick "Leaky" Leahy being the source of many Congressional leaks during the Bush years.


It's not allegorical.  It's loosely related at best.  And if the "joke" was that if Patrick Leahy would have leaked the information had he been there or had it been more damaging to Democrats, there are ways to make that joke that are actually funny and don't read like it came out of the mouth of a 5th grader. But white knight away.  I understand how literally the lowest form of humor is required to appeal to dumb people like you.
 
2013-06-16 08:54:35 PM

Linux_Yes: Need to get out of PRISM?   Need a PRISM Break?


http://prism-break.org/      (SFW)


Thanks.

https://www.whispersystems.org/#privacy
 
2013-06-16 08:56:40 PM
My tin foil hat says it's because every senator knows that the NSA has all their dirt and would make trouble for them if they started taking this scandal seriously...
 
2013-06-16 10:16:39 PM

Ilmarinen: How is this not a bigger outrage?


happened on friday
 
2013-06-16 10:50:56 PM

Ilmarinen: How is this not a bigger outrage?


The media could cover it, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, whatever, and people wouldn't actually care. Too much people lost faith in government that they don't actually want to hear what's going on.
 
2013-06-17 12:53:59 AM

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: My tin foil hat says it's because every senator knows that the NSA has all their dirt and would make trouble for them if they started taking this scandal seriously...


You can bet your bank account on this.

/hoping Snowden has some really egregious dirt on Congresscritters and Senators.
//expecting him to be "sanctioned" before anything interesting surfaces
 
2013-06-17 03:15:54 AM

red5ish: tbeatty: If Patrick Leaky isn't there, it's nuthin'.

Did you misspell Leahy's last name intentionally or is that information classified?


If you don't know, ask Cheney.
 
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