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(AL.com)   Medal of Honor winner angry at Obama for turning the military into a bunch of "quadsexuals", longs for the good old days when he had only strong, muscular men behind him   (blog.al.com) divider line 139
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2013-06-16 11:44:37 AM  
Thank you for your honorable service. You medivac pilots in Nam were incredibly brave.

I'm sure the wounded gay soldiers you rescued from harm's way forgive you for your hateful rhetoric.

PS Congrats on getting a regular column at WorldNutDaily. You must be incredibly proud to share space with such other American Heroes such as yourself.
 
2013-06-16 11:53:18 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm sure the wounded gay soldiers you rescued from harm's way forgive you for your hateful rhetoric.


Yep.  This.  People and sex come in much, much more than 31 flavors, and always have and always will.
 
2013-06-16 12:11:56 PM  
My grandfather and a few uncles served in Vietnam, a few of them in the shiat.  Considering the horror stories they used to tell about the weirdos, crazies, junkies, idiots, and outright psychotic troops the draft boards were digging up, gay guys would have been the least of their worries.

I fought in Iraq with a couple of gay dudes.  I would rather have them backing me up in a fight than the ex-tweakers, or the guys so distracted by babby-momma drama back home that they were completely combat ineffective.

We had to send one dude home after his wife left their kid at some random stranger's house (which was probably some guy she bought meth from), and another who left it with the babysitter "for three hours," which turned into four days while she was out getting gang-farked by the retards on Rear Detachment.
 
2013-06-16 12:14:55 PM  
Quadsexuals?  Have the gays gone quantum?
 
2013-06-16 12:17:06 PM  
Winning a Medal of Honor probably means you can be very brave when you must be.

It doesn't mean you aren't a dumbass bigot, though.
 
2013-06-16 12:23:26 PM  

Mentat: Quadsexuals?  Have the gays gone quantum?


It's impossible to tell where they are and how fast they're going.

Very dangerous.
 
2013-06-16 12:28:16 PM  
He would disobey orders due to sincerely held beliefs? I'm sure he had nothing but good things to say about those opposed to the war.


/I guess all the "so you were a nurse" joke finally got to him.
 
2013-06-16 12:31:42 PM  
I see this guy demonstrates the Nobel Disease effect is in full swing, still.

The fact you won a medal of honor demonstrates your bravery, yes, but it doesn't make you an authority on anything else - especially when it comes to the human rights of others.
 
2013-06-16 12:48:00 PM  
Thank you for your service, General

/now please shut up
 
2013-06-16 12:50:55 PM  

hardinparamedic: I see this guy demonstrates the Nobel Disease effect is in full swing, still.

The fact you won a medal of honor demonstrates your bravery, yes, but it doesn't make you an authority on anything else - especially when it comes to the human rights of others.


Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.
 
2013-06-16 12:57:26 PM  

Sid_6.7: Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.


You just basically summed up 84% of Anti-vacc commentary right there.
 
2013-06-16 01:11:38 PM  

hardinparamedic: Sid_6.7: Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.

You just basically summed up 84% of Anti-vacc commentary right there.


Look, my chiropractor doesn't believe in evolution, and he's a doctor.  That's good enough for me.
 
2013-06-16 01:14:03 PM  
Imagine the dangers of allowing negores and wimmin to join!
 
2013-06-16 01:18:16 PM  
"The Boy Scouts have been a kind of mini-military ..."

i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-16 01:43:56 PM  
I suspect that knowing of and using the terms "quadsexuals"  is important to understanding the source of his anger.
 
2013-06-16 01:56:43 PM  
www.epfguzzi.com

I'd hit it.
 
2013-06-16 02:27:23 PM  
transformed our military from heterosexual to quad-sexual (homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender),"

Um... shouldn't that be penta-sexual?  The heterosexuals still count as a group you know.
 
2013-06-16 02:49:10 PM  
"We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military."

Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady is a liar.
 
2013-06-16 02:51:10 PM  
www.3ders.org

I'm not sure how you would have sex with one, but I guess there's always somebody. Of course with all those moving parts, you would have to go to a dangerous activities briefing beforehand to tell you to use proper safety equipment.
 
2013-06-16 02:53:07 PM  
Am I the only one here who knows one is a "recipient" of the medal, not a "winner"?
 
2013-06-16 02:53:14 PM  
That he had secretly gay servicemen risking their lives next to him in combat is probably completely lost on him.
 
2013-06-16 02:53:29 PM  
"We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military. How can a military chaplain, Christian or Muslim, not teach the truths of the Bible on sodomy?" he asks.

Except you haven't seen that.  You've seen uniformed servicemen disciplined for proselytizing, which violates long-standing regulations.
 
2013-06-16 02:53:33 PM  
Thanks, General, for your input and documented bravery.

I, most definitely, disagree with you however.  Seems like you are making even more excuses for Young Republicans to avoid military service. Instead of the pathetic excuse of "I have other plans in my life," now those punks can whine "It's against my religion to join the military because I might work with GAYS!"
 
2013-06-16 02:53:50 PM  

Sid_6.7: hardinparamedic: I see this guy demonstrates the Nobel Disease effect is in full swing, still.

The fact you won a medal of honor demonstrates your bravery, yes, but it doesn't make you an authority on anything else - especially when it comes to the human rights of others.

Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.


A few months back when a former service member who was terminally ill wrote an article basically repeating every liberal talking point ever created about Bush and the Iraq war... He was held up as an absolutely unquestionable authority whom nobody had any right to disagree with.

So which is it? Are war veterans not to be questioned or can everything they say be subject to question just the same as everyone else?
 
2013-06-16 02:54:04 PM  
"The Boy Scouts have been a kind of mini-military... "

What Boy Scout troops has this guy been to?
 
2013-06-16 02:56:31 PM  

gnosis301: "The Boy Scouts have been a kind of mini-military... "

What Boy Scout troops has this guy been to?


rexcurry.net
 
2013-06-16 02:57:11 PM  
He points to dissonance between biblical teachings and the practice of homosexuality.
Luckily for him there's no dissonance at all between biblical teachings and the practice of killing other people.
 
2013-06-16 02:58:13 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: He points to dissonance between biblical teachings and the practice of homosexuality.
Luckily for him there's no dissonance at all between biblical teachings and the practice of killing other people.


Strange that he missed that admonishment.
 
2013-06-16 02:58:35 PM  
"I would not give one drop of blood for the country and military we are becoming"

So then I'm sure he's totally cool with people who dodged the draft during Nam because they had moral issues with a military that dropped napalm on women and children, right? No?

There are so many stupid things in this man's argument that he should just return the medal and call it a day.
 
2013-06-16 02:59:38 PM  

timujin: Um... shouldn't that be penta-sexual? The heterosexuals still count as a group you know.


Don't give them any ideas or they'll use it to connect policy to pentagrams, Satanism, goat sacrifice, and oddly shaped large office buildings housing demons.
 
PKY
2013-06-16 03:00:12 PM  
The military is all about playing with joysticks these days.
 
2013-06-16 03:00:19 PM  

randomjsa: A few months back when a former service member who was terminally ill wrote an article basically repeating every liberal talking point ever created about Bush and the Iraq war... He was held up as an absolutely unquestionable authority whom nobody had any right to disagree with.

So which is it? Are war veterans not to be questioned or can everything they say be subject to question just the same as everyone else?


Perhaps the former service member who was terminally ill wrote an accurate article based on established facts.

This general is spouting off bigotry and hatred, masked by the American flag and the Bible.

It's not whether someone is conservative, moderate or liberal, it's a logical discussion of facts.  Did we find WMDs in Iraq after we invaded? No. Did the Bush Administration drop the ball on the invasion and the occupation of Iraq? Yes. Was the Iraq War completely unnecessary? IMHO, yes.

And, in the first place, I didn't like the idea of starting a second war while already engaged in a country that actually attacked us in our homeland.
 
2013-06-16 03:02:06 PM  
My thanks to the general for his service, and also thanks to al.com for saving me from having to click a WND link.

/glaad he no longer holds a position of authority
 
2013-06-16 03:02:20 PM  

PKY: The military is all about playing with joysticks these days.


Bullshiat. Join up and see how much RPGs you get to do in the infantry stationed in Afghanistan.
 
2013-06-16 03:02:42 PM  

BSABSVR: "We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military."

Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady is a liar.


You mean he's bearing false witness? I am shocked I tell you.
 
2013-06-16 03:04:43 PM  

PKY: The military is all about playing with joysticks these days.


you left off the "nttawwt"
 
2013-06-16 03:05:16 PM  
Old Fart Yells at Cloud...News in 3, 2,Fark...
 
2013-06-16 03:07:36 PM  

MalvolioMandarin: Old Fart Yells at Cloud...News in 3, 2,Fark...


Good point. I have forgotten my youth growing up in Florida, God's Waiting Room.

/Funny that I plan to retire there when time comes.
//I miss the beaches, the swimming, the boating, the hot babes in bikinis ....
 
2013-06-16 03:07:40 PM  
Brady attendedO'Dea High School inSeattle Washington, aCatholic school owned by the Seattle Archdiocese and run by the Congregation of Christian Brothers, a religious order. Where 7 priests are accused of sexually abusing boys from the 1940s to the 1960s.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/2004_01_08_Tu_SuitAlleges _B r_Duffy.htm
Sorry Father Happy Hands touched your willy, but neither that, nor your chest of medals makes you an expert on all things 'Murican.
 
2013-06-16 03:08:40 PM  
Brady attendedO'Dea High School inSeattle Washington, aCatholic school owned by the Seattle Archdiocese and run by the Congregation of Christian Brothers, a religious order, where 7 priests are accused of sexually abusing boys from the 1940s to the 1960s.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/2004_01_08_Tu_SuitAlleges _B r_Duffy.htm
Sorry Father Happy Hands touched your willy, but neither that, nor your chest of medals makes you an expert on all things 'Murican.
 
2013-06-16 03:08:58 PM  
Meal of Honor winners are allowed to be retards, too, you know.
 
2013-06-16 03:09:47 PM  
 "We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military. How can a military chaplain, Christian or Muslim, not teach the truths of the Bible on sodomy?" he asks.

You mean this one?

Leviticus 18:22 (NIV): 'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Huh, I wonder what else is in Leviticus?

"'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." -Leviticus 19:27 NIV

usarmy.vo.llnwd.net

www.northwestmilitary.com

"'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-06-16 03:11:20 PM  
I am both amused and saddened by the fact that most Conservatives don't think there was gay sex in the military before Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama.  Really?
 
2013-06-16 03:13:22 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: Quadsexuals?  Have the gays gone quantum?

It's impossible to tell where they are and how fast they're going.

Very dangerous.


You can know one, but not the other.
 
2013-06-16 03:15:23 PM  

GreatTikiGod: I am both amused and saddened by the fact that most Conservatives don't think there was gay sex in the military before Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama.  Really?


Outside of the arts, there weren't even any gays before Clinton.  Except Spartans, but that was the type of gay that toughened you up.
 
2013-06-16 03:17:16 PM  
Shut the fark up you bitter, old man.
 
2013-06-16 03:18:24 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: Quadsexuals?  Have the gays gone quantum?

It's impossible to tell where they are and how fast they're going.

Very dangerous.


You should try dealing with Bosos' Mates.
 
2013-06-16 03:19:22 PM  

Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV


Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?
 
2013-06-16 03:20:04 PM  
Further proof that prowess on the Battlefield does not necessarily translate into prowess in the Brains Department.


nothing to see/read here.
 
2013-06-16 03:21:21 PM  

EngineerAU: timujin: Um... shouldn't that be penta-sexual? The heterosexuals still count as a group you know.

Don't give them any ideas or they'll use it to connect policy to pentagrams, Satanism, goat sacrifice, and oddly shaped large office buildings housing demons.


Quick!  We need to think up a sixth group so we can start talking about "sexasexuals"!
 
2013-06-16 03:23:36 PM  

Xanadone: EngineerAU: timujin: Um... shouldn't that be penta-sexual? The heterosexuals still count as a group you know.

Don't give them any ideas or they'll use it to connect policy to pentagrams, Satanism, goat sacrifice, and oddly shaped large office buildings housing demons.

Quick!  We need to think up a sixth group so we can start talking about "sexasexuals"!


Rock n' roll?
 
2013-06-16 03:23:49 PM  
Oops, someone doesn't know their ancient Greek military History.  Wikipedia strikes another blow (no pun intended) to ignorance in 'the greatest country on earth'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_anci en t_Greece
 
2013-06-16 03:24:00 PM  

Xanadone: EngineerAU: timujin: Um... shouldn't that be penta-sexual? The heterosexuals still count as a group you know.

Don't give them any ideas or they'll use it to connect policy to pentagrams, Satanism, goat sacrifice, and oddly shaped large office buildings housing demons.

Quick!  We need to think up a sixth group so we can start talking about "sexasexuals"!


Whatever sex with a hermaphrodite would be. Supersexual, maybe?
 
2013-06-16 03:25:09 PM  

Sgt Otter: "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV


Velcro on a battle dress uniform is an affront to the Lord! (of war)
 
2013-06-16 03:27:27 PM  
i3.ytimg.com
 
2013-06-16 03:33:10 PM  

AirForceVet: randomjsa: A few months back when a former service member who was terminally ill wrote an article basically repeating every liberal talking point ever created about Bush and the Iraq war... He was held up as an absolutely unquestionable authority whom nobody had any right to disagree with.

So which is it? Are war veterans not to be questioned or can everything they say be subject to question just the same as everyone else?

Perhaps the former service member who was terminally ill wrote an accurate article based on established facts.

This general is spouting off bigotry and hatred, masked by the American flag and the Bible.

It's not whether someone is conservative, moderate or liberal, it's a logical discussion of facts.  Did we find WMDs in Iraq after we invaded? No. Did the Bush Administration drop the ball on the invasion and the occupation of Iraq? Yes. Was the Iraq War completely unnecessary? IMHO, yes.

And, in the first place, I didn't like the idea of starting a second war while already engaged in a country that actually attacked us in our homeland.


Wait wait wait before a writer's background doesn't make their arguments less valid now it doesn't make their arguments more valid? WTF libs now you're expecting conservatives to actually have facts and not just empty rhetoric and a bunch of crass emotionalism driving their arguments? Why not just be liberals while we're at it?
 
2013-06-16 03:36:51 PM  
Sounds like another bigoted old idiot who'd be more at home in Russia or the Middle East.
 
2013-06-16 03:37:42 PM  

Sid_6.7: hardinparamedic: I see this guy demonstrates the Nobel Disease effect is in full swing, still.

The fact you won a medal of honor demonstrates your bravery, yes, but it doesn't make you an authority on anything else - especially when it comes to the human rights of others.

Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.


"I HAVE A PURPLE HEART!!!"
"I have a yellow discharge"
 
2013-06-16 03:40:02 PM  
"We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military. How can a military chaplain, Christian or Muslim, not teach the truths of the Bible on sodomy?" he asks.

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Yeah.  Tell you what.  You go tell all these young men serving in the military that sodomy, oral and anal sex, is not allowed because the Bible says so.  I'm sure that will bring them around to be Good Christians.
 
2013-06-16 03:40:28 PM  
Thanks for doing the job you were paid to do.


Now STFU.
 
2013-06-16 03:55:23 PM  
t.qkme.me


\This thread.
 
2013-06-16 04:03:15 PM  
He points to dissonance between biblical teachings.............And thats where I stopped cause his argument is thinner than the paper in the bullshiat book it's printed on.
 
2013-06-16 04:07:06 PM  
FTFA: "I would not serve in a quad-sexual military, nor would I encourage any young person to enlist in today's military. I would give my life for the country and military I served. I would not give one drop of blood for the country and military we are becoming," he said.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-16 04:07:21 PM  
"Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady says that he would not encourage anyone to join today's military. "

If I stopped reading right there, I'd like this guy.
 
2013-06-16 04:07:28 PM  

EngineerAU: Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?


It was put in by the Israeli marketing department.

A bit snarky and over-simplistic but I'm serious: that chapter of Leviticus was intended to distinguish the newly formed nation from its neighbors. It's literally about identity and branding.

/the Biblical penalty for being gay is that you can't call yourself Jewish
 
2013-06-16 04:07:59 PM  
And furthermore, get off his lawn.
 
2013-06-16 04:08:19 PM  

SithLord: [t.qkme.me image 310x224]


\This thread.


Yes, it's true.  I hate bigots.
 
2013-06-16 04:12:42 PM  

AirForceVet: Perhaps the former service member who was terminally ill wrote an accurate article based on established facts.

This general is spouting off bigotry and hatred, masked by the American flag and the Bible.

It's not whether someone is conservative, moderate or liberal, it's a logical discussion of facts. Did we find WMDs in Iraq after we invaded? No. Did the Bush Administration drop the ball on the invasion and the occupation of Iraq? Yes. Was the Iraq War completely unnecessary? IMHO, yes.

And, in the first place, I didn't like the idea of starting a second war while already engaged in a country that actually attacked us in our homeland.


Basically this is summed up as "When they say something I agree with, they must be right, and when they say something I disagree with, they must be wrong"

You dodged the point beautifully by the way. The question was 'Does a persons status as a war veteran make their opinion more valid?', and the answer in your case is 'When they say something I agree with then absolutely', while mine is 'No, it does not'. We saw this same sort of nonsense with Cindy Sheehan. If you did anything other than nod your head in dumb agreement withe very word she said it was nothing but idiots screaming 'You MONSTER! Her son died! How DARE you question her?'. We saw this same thing with four wives of fallen 9/11 fire fighters. They could say anything about anything and once again if you did anything other than nod in agreement you were some sort of monster.

As I said back when the article from the terminally ill service member first appeared 'If he'd written an opinion piece where he repeated the same talking points conservatives have been using since 2003 would liberals suddenly go 'How could we have been so wrong?''. This article on the horrors of allowing gay service members in to the military is much the same thing. It doesn't matter who wrote it or what sort of awards he received, it's still just a bunch of the same old anti-gay nonsense that was worn out decades ago. Having a distinguished service member pick up a talking point does not make that talking point more valid.
 
2013-06-16 04:12:50 PM  

magusdevil: Brady attendedO'Dea High School inSeattle Washington, aCatholic school owned by the Seattle Archdiocese and run by the Congregation of Christian Brothers, a religious order, where 7 priests are accused of sexually abusing boys from the 1940s to the 1960s.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/2004_01_08_Tu_SuitAlleges _B r_Duffy.htm
Sorry Father Happy Hands touched your willy, but neither that, nor your chest of medals makes you an expert on all things 'Murican.


That could be it, or it could be that O'Dea is affiliated with the Holy Names Academy, locally known as Homely Dames.
 
2013-06-16 04:13:38 PM  

jake_lex: Winning a Medal of Honor probably means you can be very brave when you must be.

It doesn't mean you aren't a dumbass bigot, though.


You don't win a Medal of Honor you are awarded a Medal of Honor,.
 
2013-06-16 04:15:15 PM  

spongeboob: jake_lex: Winning a Medal of Honor probably means you can be very brave when you must be.

It doesn't mean you aren't a dumbass bigot, though.

You don't win a Medal of Honor you are awarded a Medal of Honor,.


This is what losers say to make themselves feel better.
 
2013-06-16 04:20:03 PM  
I'm sorry things are so different now, General. It's very sad that times have changed and you cannot. Thank you for your honorable service with our military, and especially in your branch of medical evac.

But it's 2013 now. You just have to deal with a black President and gay and female soldiers and all kinds of new things.
 
2013-06-16 04:21:31 PM  
Ok, so some dude sucking another dude's dick is super horrible double evil, but dropping bombs on cities makes Jesus smile. Got it.
 
2013-06-16 04:22:57 PM  
"Enter Mr. Obama, a progressive moralist, who introduced homosexual conduct into barracks, military communities and foxholes..."

OK, who's got the 'Mr Obama and his Wonderful Time Machine graphic? I'm not seeing the good one on Google.

"The Boy Scouts have been a kind of mini-military, and they face the same moral dilemma. How can they be morally straight when their leadership (essentially to protect their salaries) introduces fornication, by definition, into their ranks?" Brady asks.

I'm sorry dude, they allowed gay people, they weren't hosting all night sex parties. Jesus, I can't figure out if this guy is this stupid, or if he just knew he could get some page hits with this kind of bullshiat.
 
2013-06-16 04:23:48 PM  
"Enter Mr. Obama, a progressive moralist, who introduced homosexual conduct into barracks, military communities and foxholes" - FTFA

Damn I didn't know that he made a point of going to the battlefield telling soldiers to fark eachother....
 
2013-06-16 04:24:54 PM  

randomjsa: Sid_6.7: hardinparamedic: I see this guy demonstrates the Nobel Disease effect is in full swing, still.

The fact you won a medal of honor demonstrates your bravery, yes, but it doesn't make you an authority on anything else - especially when it comes to the human rights of others.

Just like women who preface their every comment with "I'm a mother", like it makes them a massive authority on everything, and we should bow to their whims.

A few months back when a former service member who was terminally ill wrote an article basically repeating every liberal talking point ever created about Bush and the Iraq war... He was held up as an absolutely unquestionable authority whom nobody had any right to disagree with.

So which is it? Are war veterans not to be questioned or can everything they say be subject to question just the same as everyone else?


Got a link to that because it sounds like a good read.
 
2013-06-16 04:24:57 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: "Enter Mr. Obama, a progressive moralist, who introduced homosexual conduct into barracks, military communities and foxholes" - FTFA

Damn I didn't know that he made a point of going to the battlefield telling soldiers to fark eachother....


He had some spare time after covering up what really happened in Benghazi as well as covering up his plans to shut down the Tea Party via the IRS.
 
2013-06-16 04:25:22 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Am I the only one here who knows one is a "recipient" of the medal, not a "winner"?


I thought it was a typo and was supposed to MOH "whiner".

So the Wing Nut Dullards have hired this guy to be their in-house gay-bashing ex-military columnist?

Charming.
 
2013-06-16 04:31:46 PM  

EngineerAU: Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?


When you're dealing with Bible verses, you have to look at the context a lot of times to get the meaning. Notice that the verse comes after two other verses that are about intermixing? Don't breed across animal species, don't breed across plant species, and don't wear clothing of two different "species." A lot of the laws in Old Testament are laws designed to separate Jews from other cultures of the time; this is what WE do, this is what THEY do. THEY breed animals across species, and wear clothing of two types, and are homosexuals (the strength of the term "abomination" against homosexuality is along the same lines of kosher laws and the laws against mixed threads--in other words, if you're Jewish and eat pork, you shouldn't have a problem with gays). WE are the Chosen of God, and therefore we don't do this.

Many of these laws were also economically related. For example, the kosher prohibition against pork? Swine require an intense amount of water to keep, and Moses crossed a desert. Not exactly prime location to keep pigs. Similar with shellfish, which require either eating fresh (and therefore living near water) or refrigeration (probably would have been magic back then). If I had to make an educated guess, the prohibition against mixing threads is a homespun-type protest, since if I recall correctly Egypt pretty much controlled the economy at the time. To have intermixed threads meant you would have had to purchase something from Egypt, which would have been akin to a black person buying his rims from a KKK Grand Dragon (or whatever the heck they're called).

/studied the Bible extensively at university. It helps when you're an atheist to know more about the Bible than most Christians.
 
2013-06-16 04:33:01 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: "We are already seeing attacks on Christians and conservatives in the military. How can a military chaplain, Christian or Muslim, not teach the truths of the Bible on sodomy?" he asks.

[fc03.deviantart.net image 500x569]

Yeah.  Tell you what.  You go tell all these young men serving in the military that sodomy, oral and anal sex, is not allowed because the Bible says so.  I'm sure that will bring them around to be Good Christians.


AND let us not forget masturbation, pornography, and unmarried sex.

People upset about homosexuality should naturally be equally opposed to any kind of orgasm not directly involved in producing children.
 
2013-06-16 04:35:15 PM  

LectertheChef: Ok, so some dude sucking another dude's dick is super horrible double evil, but dropping bombs on cities makes Jesus smile. Got it.


I would like to know his and other homophobes opinion on a guy getting a bj from his wife or a wife getting head from her husband, I bet they don't like it either.
 
2013-06-16 04:39:31 PM  

Peki: EngineerAU: Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?

When you're dealing with Bible verses, you have to look at the context a lot of times to get the meaning. Notice that the verse comes after two other verses that are about intermixing? Don't breed across animal species, don't breed across plant species, and don't wear clothing of two different "species." A lot of the laws in Old Testament are laws designed to separate Jews from other cultures of the time; this is what WE do, this is what THEY do. THEY breed animals across species, and wear clothing of two types, and are homosexuals (the strength of the term "abomination" against homosexuality is along the same lines of kosher laws and the laws against mixed threads--in other words, if you're Jewish and eat pork, you shouldn't have a problem with gays). WE are the Chosen of God, and therefore we don't do this.

Many of these laws were also economically related. For example, the kosher prohibition against pork? Swine require an intense amount of water to keep, and Moses crossed a desert. Not exactly prime location to keep pigs. Similar with shellfish, which require either eating fresh (and therefore living near water) or refrigeration (probably would have been magic back then). If I had to make an educated guess, the prohibition against mixing threads is a homespun-type protest, since if I recall correctly Egypt pretty much controlled the economy at the time. To have intermixed threads meant you would have had ...


When I look at bible verses, I just laugh at anybody who takes any of it seriously. If one is looking for spiritual philosophy stuff, better to go with Buddhism. If someone's looking for historical knowledge, the bible is one of the most unreliable things ever written. Seriously. It says angels came down from heaven and farked a bunch of women, creating a race of supermen. And that's not even the dumbest thing in the bible.
 
2013-06-16 04:42:24 PM  
And you could probably find a similar editorial in 1948 when the military was desegregated.
 
2013-06-16 04:42:39 PM  
LecterTheChef
And that's not even the dumbest thing in the bible.

Haters gonna hate. I liked the part with the talking donkey!
 
2013-06-16 04:43:39 PM  
getoffmylawn.jpg
 
2013-06-16 04:44:24 PM  

spongeboob: LectertheChef: Ok, so some dude sucking another dude's dick is super horrible double evil, but dropping bombs on cities makes Jesus smile. Got it.

I would like to know his and other homophobes opinion on a guy getting a bj from his wife or a wife getting head from her husband, I bet they don't like it either.


They'll share their opinion on the subject if and when it ever occurs.
 
2013-06-16 04:46:45 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: LecterTheChef
And that's not even the dumbest thing in the bible.

Haters gonna hate. I liked the part with the talking donkey!


It spawned three sequels and revived Eddie Murphy's career.
 
2013-06-16 05:00:02 PM  
In an article entitled "Desecrating old glory akin to desecrating the constitution," Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady says that he would not encourage anyone to join today's military.
Brady believes that the Obama administration's repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and the allowance of women to serve in combat has dishonored the military.



A better reason to recommend people don't join the U.S. Military, it's just too rapey these days.

Has anyone clicked on the WND link? Has he addressed this issue? If he did, he blamed the problem on Obama, didn't he?
 
2013-06-16 05:00:11 PM  

Peki: EngineerAU: Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?

When you're dealing with Bible verses, you have to look at the context a lot of times to get the meaning. Notice that the verse comes after two other verses that are about intermixing? Don't breed across animal species, don't breed across plant species, and don't wear clothing of two different "species." A lot of the laws in Old Testament are laws designed to separate Jews from other cultures of the time; this is what WE do, this is what THEY do. THEY breed animals across species, and wear clothing of two types, and are homosexuals (the strength of the term "abomination" against homosexuality is along the same lines of kosher laws and the laws against mixed threads--in other words, if you're Jewish and eat pork, you shouldn't have a problem with gays). WE are the Chosen of God, and therefore we don't do this.

Many of these laws were also economically related. For example, the kosher prohibition against pork? Swine require an intense amount of water to keep, and Moses crossed a desert. Not exactly prime location to keep pigs. Similar with shellfish, which require either eating fresh (and therefore living near water) or refrigeration (probably would have been magic back then). If I had to make an educated guess, the prohibition against mixing threads is a homespun-type protest, since if I recall correctly Egypt pretty much controlled the economy at the time. To have intermixed threads meant you would have had ...



It might help but I refuse to subject myself to the crap that's in there based on all that I've seen and heard.

I pass.
 
2013-06-16 05:10:42 PM  
Good at being brave =\= good at being smart.
 
2013-06-16 05:27:43 PM  
MoH winners can say anything they want.  Everyone else should say thank you and buy his next round.
 
2013-06-16 05:28:47 PM  
I am so glad that the General's column no longer appears in the San Antonio Express News.  I'd read it for the laughs, and the outrage that would show up in the ensuing letters to the editor.  I respect the man for what he's done.  But his mind set is not right.
 
2013-06-16 05:58:54 PM  
The important thing is that the military follows the most sacred religious decree, that God wants you wear a hat
.
 
2013-06-16 06:01:58 PM  
I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I really hate Obama and I don't like homosexuals
 
2013-06-16 06:02:09 PM  

LectertheChef: When I look at bible verses, I just laugh at anybody who takes any of it seriously. If one is looking for spiritual philosophy stuff, better to go with Buddhism. If someone's looking for historical knowledge, the bible is one of the most unreliable things ever written. Seriously. It says angels came down from heaven and farked a bunch of women, creating a race of supermen. And that's not even the dumbest thing in the bible.


If you can take the effort to put the Bible into the proper historical context, it is very reliable--as the historical/mythological revision of the victors establishing their sovereign right to the land they took by force of arms and by passive invasion. It also establishes the primacy of the Levite clan of priests over everyone else's otherwise equal claims to the Temple, and a whole host of other political things.

If you try to pretend the Bible was written by god or think it is a verbatim history of the Israelites, then no, it's pure fantasy. But it's the same "reliable" history as the Myth of Manifest Destiny that pretty much all Americans believe, if that was written down. The basic facts are true, but the gloss is pretty thick, and it takes a lot of work to strip off.
 
2013-06-16 06:04:10 PM  

Sandelaphon: [www.3ders.org image 550x413]

I'm not sure how you would have sex with one, but I guess there's always somebody. Of course with all those moving parts, you would have to go to a dangerous activities briefing beforehand to tell you to use proper safety equipment.


As someone who designed software that went on things like those, I still took too damn long to get the joke.

Sigh.
 
2013-06-16 06:08:23 PM  

Mikey1969: I'm sorry dude, they allowed gay people, they weren't hosting all night sex parties. Jesus, I can't figure out if this guy is this stupid, or if he just knew he could get some page hits with this kind of bullshiat.


The Boy Scouts are doing that now?

Is it an activity for a merit badge or just part of the fun?

/It sure does give "Jamboree" a whole new meaning.
 
2013-06-16 06:21:19 PM  

BMulligan: spongeboob: LectertheChef: Ok, so some dude sucking another dude's dick is super horrible double evil, but dropping bombs on cities makes Jesus smile. Got it.

I would like to know his and other homophobes opinion on a guy getting a bj from his wife or a wife getting head from her husband, I bet they don't like it either.

They'll share their opinion on the subject if and when it ever occurs.


What your significant other and you never celebrate your birthdays?
 
2013-06-16 06:27:03 PM  

tbeatty: MoH winners can say anything they want.  Everyone else should say thank you and buy his next round.


Then a two time Medal of Honor  recipient should be the final word right? So War Is A Racket, really

upload.wikimedia.org
Looks like he would like Scotch.
 
2013-06-16 06:27:27 PM  
Dear Major General Brady,
      Thank you for your service. Now get over your homophobia and join the 21st century.
Love,
MeanJean
 
2013-06-16 06:30:13 PM  
Wyalt Derp

I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I really hate Obama and I don't like homosexuals


Very clever.
 
2013-06-16 06:36:08 PM  

MeanJean: Dear Major General Brady,
      Thank you for your service. Now get over your homophobia and join the 21st century.
Love,
MeanJean


Dear Major General Brady;

Thank you for your noble and honorable service.  I'm heartened that today should I go into battle the medivac pilots and crewmen would willingly risk their lives to save mine, even though I am a homosexual.  Conversely I have in the past risked my life and shed blood in defense of a fellow soldier, even if our personal views off the battlefield did not align.  No matter how petty or one-sided our arguments might have been, we were ready to die for one another.

I suppose that makes us better men, and we can go to our graves knowing that our service to the nation and to each other transcends the labels that politicians and the media hang around our necks.  There were no queers, no fundamentalists, no distinction between Christian, Muslim, and Jew.  No white, black, hispanic, or Asian.  There were only soldiers who stood as a band of brothers.

I could only wish the same comfort for you.

Regards,
A queer transsexual veteran who would still die for you and for the nation if called upon.
 
2013-06-16 06:36:14 PM  
101 posts and this hasn't been posted I'm disappointed in all of us


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
I would like to point out   Vietnam Veteran
 
2013-06-16 06:37:11 PM  
Picture of what a quadsexual might look like:

i615.photobucket.com

/100 comments in and nobody has done this? fark I am disappoint
 
2013-06-16 06:39:41 PM  

randomjsa: It doesn't matter who wrote it or what sort of awards he received, it's still just a bunch of the same old anti-gay nonsense that was worn out decades ago. Having a distinguished service member pick up a talking point does not make that talking point more valid.


When did this guy start making so much sense?? Or is that the "random" part?
 
2013-06-16 06:54:15 PM  

Ilmarinen: randomjsa: It doesn't matter who wrote it or what sort of awards he received, it's still just a bunch of the same old anti-gay nonsense that was worn out decades ago. Having a distinguished service member pick up a talking point does not make that talking point more valid.

When did this guy start making so much sense?? Or is that the "random" part?


Some of our local professional "troll accounts" get too well known and become recycled into "normal posters".  Then they use some other alt account.  I have actually had to take some old posters off of ignore when they started posting absolute gold and platinum post that were coherent.  You get used to it.  Random and even spentmiles are examples.  They arent reformed, they just started using newer alts I assume.
 
2013-06-16 06:54:39 PM  

cefm: Good at being brave =\= good at being smart.


It's probably closer related to being stupid.
 
2013-06-16 06:54:44 PM  
Inquisitive Inquisitor

(Thunderous applause)
 
2013-06-16 07:17:29 PM  

Inquisitive Inquisitor: MeanJean: Dear Major General Brady,
      Thank you for your service. Now get over your homophobia and join the 21st century.
Love,
MeanJean

Dear Major General Brady;

Thank you for your noble and honorable service.  I'm heartened that today should I go into battle the medivac pilots and crewmen would willingly risk their lives to save mine, even though I am a homosexual.  Conversely I have in the past risked my life and shed blood in defense of a fellow soldier, even if our personal views off the battlefield did not align.  No matter how petty or one-sided our arguments might have been, we were ready to die for one another.

I suppose that makes us better men, and we can go to our graves knowing that our service to the nation and to each other transcends the labels that politicians and the media hang around our necks.  There were no queers, no fundamentalists, no distinction between Christian, Muslim, and Jew.  No white, black, hispanic, or Asian.  There were only soldiers who stood as a band of brothers.

I could only wish the same comfort for you.

Regards,
A queer transsexual veteran who would still die for you and for the nation if called upon.


Nicely put.

//veteran
 
2013-06-16 07:37:48 PM  

NewportBarGuy: PS Congrats on getting a regular column at WorldNutDaily.


And congrats to subby, for getting a greenlight on non-WND coverage of a WND column.
 
2013-06-16 07:41:55 PM  
Yet another who goes overseas to fight for Americans' freedom, then comes home to fight against it.
 
2013-06-16 07:44:11 PM  
 
2013-06-16 07:49:54 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: EngineerAU: Sgt Otter: "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19 -NIV

Much like folk wisdom, a lot of what is commanded by the Bible has its origin in a rational thought appropriate for the time it was written, but I've never understood where the demand that clothes not be made up of more than one type of material came from. Makes me wonder if it got slipped into the Bible by someone who was annoyed by static electricity?

It was put in by the Israeli marketing department.

A bit snarky and over-simplistic but I'm serious: that chapter of Leviticus was intended to distinguish the newly formed nation from its neighbors. It's literally about identity and branding.

/the Biblical penalty for being gay is that you can't call yourself Jewish


I think this is the idea being 'Jewishness' being about who your mom was, not your dad. Since Isreal got trampled by so many invasions, the best way to rebuild your population was to accept all the rape-babies into the fold instead of exposing them to die.
 
2013-06-16 07:54:13 PM  

spongeboob: 101 posts and this hasn't been posted I'm disappointed in all of us


[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 261x193]
I would like to point out   Vietnam Veteran


Did he get Gay Discharge?
 
2013-06-16 08:00:04 PM  
I bet he wants quadsexuals in his "platoon" all night long.
 
2013-06-16 08:02:17 PM  
I think Charlie did something to him that he hasn't recovered from.
 
2013-06-16 08:04:50 PM  

themindiswatching: I bet he wants quadsexuals in his "platoon" all night long.


They didn't call him "4 on the floor" Brady back in Nam for nothing, ya know.
 
2013-06-16 08:23:17 PM  

comhcinc: Women have ruined the military


Actually, the Major General already covered that part too, and appears to be a regular on WND.

Basically, women were weak, icky, had cooties, their feminine hygiene was a "waste of time" and they should be out having babies and "nurturing life".

I respect the guy's service; he's still a misogynic old homophobe.
 
2013-06-16 08:30:08 PM  
What a quad-sexual might look like:

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-06-16 09:20:03 PM  
Thank you for protecting my freedom to tell you to fark the hell off
 
2013-06-16 09:32:56 PM  

LectertheChef: When I look at bible verses, I just laugh at anybody who takes any of it seriously. If one is looking for spiritual philosophy stuff, better to go with Buddhism. If someone's looking for historical knowledge, the bible is one of the most unreliable things ever written. Seriously. It says angels came down from heaven and farked a bunch of women, creating a race of supermen. And that's not even the dumbest thing in the bible.


Yup. Which is why I studied it from the literature side of things (I've got an English degree). As literature, the Bible is farking gold. Try to do anything else with it, and you'll fall in a hole that you didn't see because your head was stuck too far up your butt.

jmr61: It might help but I refuse to subject myself to the crap that's in there based on all that I've seen and heard.


I don't blame you in the slightest. It's hard to separate the book from the culture around it, but if you can put that away, it's interesting. Some of it was ahead of its time (eye for an eye was actually an improvement), and some of the agricultural laws are just plain smart gardening (not letting a tree fruit for so many years, for example, which helps to increase yield as the branches are strong enough to support the weight).

"I do not fear Satan so much as I fear the men who fear Satan." The Bible's not the the problem. People are (and always have been, and always will be).
 
2013-06-16 10:26:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm sure the wounded gay soldiers you rescued from harm's way forgive you for your hateful rhetoric.


I'd tell him what I tell all my military friends who whine about gays: "They've been there all along."

That really bugs them because the average military member has no gaydar.
 
2013-06-16 10:44:50 PM  
Inquisitive Inquisitor

I just looked at your profile and it says that you're handicapped, bisexual, polyamorous, and you've just revealed that you're trans as well. I'd like to see you attend some GOP event for veterans just to see their heads explode.
 
2013-06-16 10:47:21 PM  
In this case, I have to say I'm quite sad the MoH was not awarded posthumously.
 
2013-06-16 11:13:14 PM  

Old enough to know better: Sounds like another bigoted old idiot who'd be more at home in Russia or the Middle East.


Dude.

The, um, er, *ahem, cough* esteemed sir is most certainly talking outta the improper end of his food pipe, but there ain't no need
to insult him THAT badly for it.
 
2013-06-16 11:22:16 PM  
While I thank him for his service, having served myself the first thoughts I had when I read this from TFA:

"I would not serve in a quad-sexual military, nor would I encourage any young person to enlist in today's military. I would give my life for the country and military I served. I would not give one drop of blood for the country and military we are becoming," he said.

lead me to believe that he should have had that PTSD treated years ago.
/get some meds, dude
 
2013-06-16 11:27:22 PM  

wotthefark: spongeboob: 101 posts and this hasn't been posted I'm disappointed in all of us


[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 261x193]
I would like to point out   Vietnam Veteran

Did he get Gay Discharge?


Yes. Here you go
 
2013-06-16 11:28:36 PM  

Mentat: Quadsexuals?  Have the gays gone quantum?


Yeah... put one in a closet, and the bible thumpers have to guess whether they're gay or straight without observation.
 
2013-06-17 12:32:09 AM  
There is no such thing as a Medal of Honor winner. It's not a contest.

/oblig
 
2013-06-17 12:36:22 AM  
By "quadsexuals" I just figured he meant gay guys who were really proud of their strong, smooth, muscular thighs, bundles of tissue which flexed and strained as they lifted up their wounded buddy out of harm's way on the battlefield and back to the medical tent, where the expert hands of a male nurse quickly went about the mission of healing his ....

wait, what were we talking about?
 
2013-06-17 12:43:26 AM  

Ilmarinen: randomjsa: It doesn't matter who wrote it or what sort of awards he received, it's still just a bunch of the same old anti-gay nonsense that was worn out decades ago. Having a distinguished service member pick up a talking point does not make that talking point more valid.

When did this guy start making so much sense?? Or is that the "random" part?


(randommotherf*cker is queer)
 
2013-06-17 12:56:38 AM  

Wyalt Derp: I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I really hate Obama and I don't like homosexuals

There weren't no queers when I was in, they had no rights historical
From Vietnam to Baqubah, in order categorical

I'm very well acquainted, too, with UCMJ quotes and more
I followed regulations, Article 133 and 4
The reasons why we kicked them out has certainly become old news
Cause all the rules have changed and now my bigotry just can't be used

Cause all the rules have changed and now his bigotry just can't be used
Cause all the rules have changed and now his bigotry just can't be used
Cause all the rules have changed and now his bigotry just can't be used
Cause all the rules have changed and now his bigotry just can't be used
 
2013-06-17 08:21:17 AM  
As soon as you cite the bible in a debate you lose, it is completely irrelevant.
 
2013-06-17 09:59:55 AM  
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that this guy is a republican.
 
2013-06-17 11:40:50 AM  

randomjsa: AirForceVet: Perhaps the former service member who was terminally ill wrote an accurate article based on established facts.

This general is spouting off bigotry and hatred, masked by the American flag and the Bible.

It's not whether someone is conservative, moderate or liberal, it's a logical discussion of facts. Did we find WMDs in Iraq after we invaded? No. Did the Bush Administration drop the ball on the invasion and the occupation of Iraq? Yes. Was the Iraq War completely unnecessary? IMHO, yes.

And, in the first place, I didn't like the idea of starting a second war while already engaged in a country that actually attacked us in our homeland.

Basically this is summed up as "When they say something I agree with, they must be right, and when they say something I disagree with, they must be wrong"


Alternatively, it could be "People are right when they say something correct, and wrong when they are incorrect."

The suggestion that legitimacy hinges on Appeal to Authority is something <i>you</I> put forward, not anyone here, or in this abstract veteran-arguing-against-Bush's-war thread you keep vaguely referring to.  It's the Conservatives who continually rally around phrases like "Support the Troops," and while I don't think anyone should argue that the status of Sheehan or 9/11 widows should put them above question, it does serve as a convenient counterpoint to the right-wing military fetishism that typically rejects any argument that runs counter to their self-defined patriotism.

Besides, are they any "liberal talking points ever created about Bush and the Iraq War" that turned out to be wrong?
 
2013-06-17 12:32:39 PM  
This gentleman's honor is very cheap, isn't it, that he would not shed "one drop of blood" for a military that allows gay people to serve in it. Medal or not, no one is all that honorable if they determine someone's worth by their sexuality. This guy gets no respect from me whatsoever.

Uniforms and medals ought not bring the automatic deference to the wearer that we tend to let them bring.
 
2013-06-17 08:58:07 PM  
I bet the General is a repressed quadsexual...whatever the fark that is.
 
2013-06-17 11:54:28 PM  

spongeboob: tbeatty: MoH winners can say anything they want.  Everyone else should say thank you and buy his next round.

Then a two time Medal of Honor  recipient should be the final word right? So War Is A Racket, really

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x188]
Looks like he would like Scotch.


I'd say thank you and by him a scotch if that's his preference.  I don't have to agree with him but I'm not going to call him out on it.   Only an ungrateful douchebag would do that.
 
2013-06-18 03:13:33 AM  

cmunic8r99: There is no such thing as a Medal of Honor winner. It's not a contest.

/oblig


THIS.

spongeboob: jake_lex: Winning a Medal of Honor probably means you can be very brave when you must be.

It doesn't mean you aren't a dumbass bigot, though.

You don't win a Medal of Honor you are awarded a Medal of Honor,.


And THIS.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Am I the only one here who knows one is a "recipient" of the medal, not a "winner"?


No, you aren't the only one who knows. I had the privilege of meeting these individuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_L._Davis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Wetzel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Westmoreland
before I joined, and again when I was home on leave at a Vietnam Veteran function back in the mid and late 80's. It was impressed upon me at that time that MOH recipients aren't playing a farking game.

In my experience, anyone who claims to be a veteran and says MOH winner during a conversation is in fact not actually a veteran but a poser and should suffer death, by boogaloo...

http://www.vra.org.uk/showthread.php?3366-death-or-boogaloo
 
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