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(Opposing Views)   Is this man facing two years in jail for a.) theft, b.) assault or c.) locking up kids who were vandalizing his home in a closet until police could arrive?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 264
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2013-06-17 03:33:38 AM

Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.


Do your damn job and your kids won't get all traumatized and whatnot.
 
2013-06-17 04:14:50 AM

thamike: The kidnapping had already happened when he called the cops.


I wish people would read articles before commenting.

"Daniels told 13WHAM it was 9 p.m. on a Saturday when his wife told him she heard noises coming from her father's home next door. He told her to call 911 while he went over to check it out. Inside, he found four children destroying the house."

So 911 was called AS Daniels went over to check on the noises. He then encountered the kids and confined them. Unless 911 was dysfunctional that day, the police were already on the move before the kids were in the closet.

/And it wasn't kidnapping either.
//Kids were involved so you won't get a zero in reading comprehension.
 
2013-06-17 04:16:42 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Mrbogey: Bathia_Mapes: He forced the children into a closet and kept them there until the police showed up. In many states that's considered kidnapping, or false imprisonment at the very least. You cannot legally do what this man did and it doesn't matter whether it involved children or adults.

I hope that's not true because if it is then society is doomed. How can you not not allow people to detain a criminal until police arrive? That's an awfully British way to defend criminality.

You know if the kids fled they'd deny involvement and then there's essentially a property crime with no firm evidence other than one eyewitness making a claim.

Looking at the photos of how they left the place I'd say there's likely a lot of physical evidence. You know, stuff like fingerprints on the cabinets, paint cans & hammers, possible shoe prints on the spilled paint used while vandalizing the place, etc. At the very least that would prove that the kids were in the house. And I doubt they could convince the police that they were allowed to be there.


What kind of fantasy world do you live in where cops take fingerprints for property crimes?

My god you're a farking idiot.
 
2013-06-17 05:43:28 AM

RastaKins: I wish people would read articles before commenting.


I wish people would read the thread before they lose their sh*t.
 
2013-06-17 06:21:51 AM
Doesn't sound like the guy did anything wrong.
And those parents should be ashamed of themselves.
Ashamed and out at least 12.500$ each.
 
2013-06-17 08:26:13 AM

thamike: RastaKins: I wish people would read articles before commenting.

I wish people would read the thread before they lose their sh*t.


it's obvious the cops and the DA are unfamiliar with NY law as well as most everyone here. early in the thread I posted the relevant information... I will repost it here: Citizens Arrest (NY) which falls under the general heading of Necessity Defense. I hope his lawyer points this out, gets the charges dismissed, and gets to sue for false imprisonment, but this is NY, so actually winning a civil false imprisonment suit is about as likely as seeing a unicorn jump over a blast of fire from a dragon's anus because he was lighting his own farts.
 
2013-06-17 10:07:51 AM

theknuckler_33: I guess he should have just farking shot and killed them.


Nah, he should have killed the parents.

AndreMA: Seriously. In light of the damage and other evidence, if he'd gone there with a firearm to investigate a burglary, shot them all dead, and then claimed self-defense against hammer-wielding felons, most sane jurors would acquit if it ever made it to trial.

The kids are lucky to be alive.


As long as he hit them in the front.
 
2013-06-17 11:14:02 AM
Infernalist sure got a lot of bites


/doubt he even has kids
 
2013-06-17 11:31:55 AM

Okieboy: Infernalist sure got a lot of bites


/doubt he even has kids


Never ascribe to trolling that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
 
2013-06-17 03:15:40 PM
He was arrested because the parents complained so the police have to respond to the complaint but once this reaches the prosecutor's desk I'm sure charges will be dropped.

/unless one of the little shaits is related to the prosecutor or some other weird small town justice thing
 
2013-06-17 04:19:14 PM

Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.


That's funny.  It'll be even more funny when you wake up handcuffed to a hospital bed tough guy. Keep on "keepin' it REAL, Yo!"
 
2013-06-17 04:51:13 PM
That's why you shoot intruders in the face.
 
2013-06-17 05:29:01 PM

Rubix^3: That's why you shoot intruders in the face.


www.carterburwell.com

So the cops don't know they're midgets?
 
2013-06-17 06:06:04 PM

relaxitsjustme: He was arrested because the parents complained so the police have to respond to the complaint but once this reaches the prosecutor's desk I'm sure charges will be dropped.


Police officers do not have to arrest someone every time there is a complaint.  I could call and say my next door neighbor is a mass murderer, but if there isn't any evidence, they aren't going to arrest him.

In this case, I think the guy will get off when it gets to court, assuming it makes it that far, and I think there is a good chance it will get dropped before it reaches the courtroom.  But he has to go hire an attorney *now*.  Not later, not after he is sitting in court and realizes "Oh, they are really going to follow up on this".  He has to do it now.
 
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