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2013-06-16 05:59:15 PM

Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.


Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.
 
2013-06-16 06:00:48 PM

remus: 99.998er: EdNortonsTwin: Spare the lash...

Ask Michael Faye, the kid caught in Singapore vandalizing property, what a caning is like.

More importantly, ask him if he ever vandalized anything ever again.


Although he never got in trouble again for vandalism, he had several scrapes with the law when he returned. Stuff like weed, open container, butane abuse (yes, really), and driving infractions. I kind of think that once the mold has set, it is difficult to reverse.
 
2013-06-16 06:01:26 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Mrbogey: Bathia_Mapes: He forced the children into a closet and kept them there until the police showed up. In many states that's considered kidnapping, or false imprisonment at the very least. You cannot legally do what this man did and it doesn't matter whether it involved children or adults.

I hope that's not true because if it is then society is doomed. How can you not not allow people to detain a criminal until police arrive? That's an awfully British way to defend criminality.

You know if the kids fled they'd deny involvement and then there's essentially a property crime with no firm evidence other than one eyewitness making a claim.

Looking at the photos of how they left the place I'd say there's likely a lot of physical evidence. You know, stuff like fingerprints on the cabinets, paint cans & hammers, possible shoe prints on the spilled paint used while vandalizing the place, etc. At the very least that would prove that the kids were in the house. And I doubt they could convince the police that they were allowed to be there.


How do I know you have never actually dealt with police when there was such evidence available?
 
2013-06-16 06:04:32 PM

Lost Thought 00: TuteTibiImperes: So is a citizen's arrest something that only exists in movies and TV shows?

Yes, it is.


Really? We allow it here in MN: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=629.38&year=2011
 
2013-06-16 06:04:43 PM

Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.


An insanity plea wouldn't work.
 
2013-06-16 06:06:56 PM

mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.


I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.
 
2013-06-16 06:11:20 PM

Infernalist: mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.

I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.


Don't raise shiaty kids and I won't fark with them. You sound like an overprotective helicopter parent. My dad would have thanked the dude and whoooped our ass on top of a minimum 1 year grounding.
 
2013-06-16 06:11:51 PM

99.998er: remus: 99.998er: EdNortonsTwin: Spare the lash...

Ask Michael Faye, the kid caught in Singapore vandalizing property, what a caning is like.

More importantly, ask him if he ever vandalized anything ever again.

Although he never got in trouble again for vandalism, he had several scrapes with the law when he returned. Stuff like weed, open container, butane abuse (yes, really), and driving infractions. I kind of think that once the mold has set, it is difficult to reverse.


Huh, I'd never heard any follow up on him.

I agree, some people are just rotten, demonstrate that as children, and never change.

I remember a useless clod of a bully back in gradeschool...he wasn't even very good at bullying, and even me, a weedy little kid back then, wasn't really all that scared of him, which tells you something...thirty years later, I'm visiting the parents, and notice the crime blotter in the local paper; he's been arrested for shoplifting a pair of pants.

Lived up to his potential, I suppose...
 
2013-06-16 06:12:55 PM

T Baggins: Snapper Carr: N.Y. CPL. LAW § 140.35 : NY Code - Section 140.35: Arrest without a warrant; by person acting other than as a police officer or a peace officer....
2. Such person must inform the person whom he is arresting of the
reason for such arrest unless he encounters physical resistance, flight
or other factors rendering such procedure impractical.
....
IANAL but it seems like he's covered.

IANALE, but I don't think this applies unless he informed the kids that he was placing them under arrest. This sort of citizen's arrest is how store security can legally detain shoplifters in some circumstances and locales, but there are still rules like this governing the arrests.


Look at item 2 on there again: it specifically includes exceptions for encountering "physical resistance" or "flight", both of which applied here since the little shiats were armed with hammers and were trying to get away.

That's moot though.  When the guy stuffed them in that closet he specifically told them "you can stay in there until the police arrive."  That's good enough for a citizen's arrest notice since he literally was telling them they were being detained so that they could be dealt with by law enforcement, which is the entire point of citizen's arrest.


Gyrfalcon: In no state may an arrest for a misdemeanor be made without it occurring in the presence of the arrestor.[43] In the case of felonies, a private person may make an arrest for a felony occurring outside his presence but the rule is that a felony must have, in fact, been committed . For example, imagine a suspect has been seen on surveillance video vandalizing a building to the extent that the arrestor believes it rises to a felony due to the damage. If he finds the suspect and makes the arrest but it later turns out that it was misdemeanor damage, the arrestor is liable for false arrest because a felony had not, in fact, been committed.


I bolded that first line, since that's the actual relevant one.  A citizen's arrest for misdemeanor crimes is allowed if the crime is witnessed by the person doing the arrest.  In this case, the homeowner came back home and saw with his own two eyes kids with hammers going to town on his house.  Even if that doesn't rise to the level of felony vandalism (which I think it does given the photos) he's in the clear.


One last thing to note regarding the charges, I'm hoping that this is actually a play by the DA's office to support this guy in a roundabout way.  Ages ago a friend of a friend had someone jump off a bridge in front of his car.  He wasn't arrested, but the DA charged him with vehicular manslaughter and scheduled a Grand Jury hearing that same day... where the case was thrown out.  He specifically told the driver that he did this because the Grand Jury formally declaring that the case had no merit would dramatically undercut any possible future civil claims against the driver.

It would be sweet sweet Schadenfreude to see that come true.  The DA "caves" to the angry parents of the delinquents only for the Grand Jury to swiftly dismiss the charge, leaving the stupid parents with almost no chance of bringing any sort of civil suit against the homeowner.
 
2013-06-16 06:13:58 PM

Infernalist: mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.

I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.


If you're first reaction to someone putting your kid in a closet (oh, the horror!) when your kid was completely out of control trashing that someone's house with a hammer was to go ballistic on the person who put your kid in the closet, I think society would know where to look to figure out why the kid was such a destructive ass already in life.
 
2013-06-16 06:14:29 PM
Shoulda just shot 'em
 
2013-06-16 06:15:14 PM
A real father teaches his kid that actions have consequences, and stupidity and criminal behavior usually has harsh consequences.  You bail out and enable your kid all you want, you're not doing them any favors.
 
2013-06-16 06:15:39 PM
If your first reaction...
 
2013-06-16 06:15:52 PM
So what would be a prudent thing to do in this situation?
I doubt they had ID's you could confiscate.

If they bolt, they would likely claim "I wasn't me"
How could you prove they were there?
Would "Each of you give me your right shoe" work?
 
2013-06-16 06:16:10 PM

Infernalist: mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.

I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.


He had the legal authority. The charge against him will probably not go very far.
 
2013-06-16 06:16:58 PM

hoihoi8: Infernalist: mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.

I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.

Don't raise shiaty kids and I won't fark with them. You sound like an overprotective helicopter parent. My dad would have thanked the dude and whoooped our ass on top of a minimum 1 year grounding.


I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth if you're lucky or in a hole in the ground if you're not.  Don't fark with a father's kids.  You just don't do it.  You 'will' end up dead if you fark with the wrong guy's kids.
 
2013-06-16 06:21:08 PM
Arthur Jumbles:
Really... its sounds like the father pressured the police to file the child endangerment charges so he'd have some leverage against the homeowner. I doubt there's anything that can be done about the charges against the kids but I bet he's hoping that the thousands of dollars in civil charges can be put on the table if he drops the child endangerment charges.

You can't press charges for child endangerment brainiac.  The father could pressure the state to file charges but the civil suit has zero to do with the criminal suit and the stupid kids father has zero say in how that goes.  You can't "drop" a state brought child endangerment charge to mitigate civil suit fines.
 
2013-06-16 06:21:41 PM
Bathia_Mapes:

... I'd say there's likely a lot of physical evidence. You know, stuff like fingerprints on the cabinets, paint cans & hammers, possible shoe prints on the spilled paint used while vandalizing the place, etc. At the very least that would prove that the kids were in the house. And I doubt they could convince the police that they were allowed to be there.
Good lord people are really this deluded? What kind of cellar dweller really believes cops would put any resources into this? ... someone who has watched far to much TV and had far to little real life experience.
 
2013-06-16 06:22:54 PM

yukichigai: It would be sweet sweet Schadenfreude to see that come true. The DA "caves" to the angry parents of the delinquents only for the Grand Jury to swiftly dismiss the charge, leaving the stupid parents with almost no chance of bringing any sort of civil suit against the homeowner.


And you may well be right. Arrest the man for overreaching (which he did) but with the full knowledge that the charges are baseless (which they are) and ensure that the man won't face civil charges AND ensure that next time the homeowner doesn't get even crazier and kneecap the kids or something.

There are other reasons for laws besides punishing the wrongdoer in the instant case, after all.
 
2013-06-16 06:23:34 PM

Krymson Tyde: Isn't that called kidnapping?


In many states it's called citizen's arrest.
 
2013-06-16 06:24:06 PM

Lost Thought 00: TuteTibiImperes: So is a citizen's arrest something that only exists in movies and TV shows?

Yes, it is.


No, its quite real. Google 'California Penal Code section 837' for an example statue.
 
2013-06-16 06:24:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: yukichigai: It would be sweet sweet Schadenfreude to see that come true. The DA "caves" to the angry parents of the delinquents only for the Grand Jury to swiftly dismiss the charge, leaving the stupid parents with almost no chance of bringing any sort of civil suit against the homeowner.

And you may well be right. Arrest the man for overreaching (which he did) but with the full knowledge that the charges are baseless (which they are) and ensure that the man won't face civil charges AND ensure that next time the homeowner doesn't get even crazier and kneecap the kids or something.

There are other reasons for laws besides punishing the wrongdoer in the instant case, after all.


The guy didn't overreach by arresting the kids.
 
2013-06-16 06:25:29 PM

Lost Thought 00: TuteTibiImperes: So is a citizen's arrest something that only exists in movies and TV shows?

Yes, it is.


No, it's not. The law varies from state to state, but generally requires that you personally witness a felony, use the minimum necessary force to detain the suspect, and promptly turn the prisoner over to the police.
 
2013-06-16 06:26:06 PM

yukichigai: T Baggins: Snapper Carr: N.Y. CPL. LAW § 140.35 : NY Code - Section 140.35: Arrest without a warrant; by person acting other than as a police officer or a peace officer....
2. Such person must inform the person whom he is arresting of the
reason for such arrest unless he encounters physical resistance, flight
or other factors rendering such procedure impractical.
....
IANAL but it seems like he's covered.

IANALE, but I don't think this applies unless he informed the kids that he was placing them under arrest. This sort of citizen's arrest is how store security can legally detain shoplifters in some circumstances and locales, but there are still rules like this governing the arrests.

Look at item 2 on there again: it specifically includes exceptions for encountering "physical resistance" or "flight", both of which applied here since the little shiats were armed with hammers and were trying to get away.

That's moot though.  When the guy stuffed them in that closet he specifically told them "you can stay in there until the police arrive."  That's good enough for a citizen's arrest notice since he literally was telling them they were being detained so that they could be dealt with by law enforcement, which is the entire point of citizen's arrest.


Gyrfalcon: In no state may an arrest for a misdemeanor be made without it occurring in the presence of the arrestor.[43] In the case of felonies, a private person may make an arrest for a felony occurring outside his presence but the rule is that a felony must have, in fact, been committed . For example, imagine a suspect has been seen on surveillance video vandalizing a building to the extent that the arrestor believes it rises to a felony due to the damage. If he finds the suspect and makes the arrest but it later turns out that it was misdemeanor damage, the arrestor is liable for false arrest because a felony had not, in fact, been committed.

I bolded that first line, since that's the actual relevant one.  A citizen's ...


FTA:  "Clyde Village Police returned the children to their parents, who live just down the street, and filed felony criminal charges of 2nd degree burglary and 2nd degree criminal mischief. "

They did in fact commit a felony.  The statute makes no exceptions for the person arrested being a juvenile.
 
2013-06-16 06:26:45 PM

Infernalist: .

I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth if you're lucky or in a hole in the ground if you're not.  Don't fark with a father's kids.  You just don't do it.  You 'will' end up dead if you fark with the wrong guy's kids.


I'm just glad my dad's not like you. I'm sure I'm a better person for it.
 
2013-06-16 06:28:11 PM
Mental note... if one of Infernalist's kids is raping my wife, preemptively kill Infernalist because he will irrationally defend scum that deserves to die rather than having the honor to cull his own like a good family would.
 
2013-06-16 06:28:50 PM

Infernalist: I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth


...and you'll be spending a long time in prison, ITG, sparing your kids frome further expose to your piss-poor parenting skills.
 
2013-06-16 06:29:13 PM

Bschott007: RickN99: Bathia_Mapes: He forced the children into a closet and kept them there until the police showed up. In many states that's considered kidnapping, or false imprisonment at the very least.

He detained multiple armed criminals, caught in the commission of numerous crimes on his property, until the police arrived.  Cite one state's law where this is considered "kidnapping".

it's not...he is being charged with ENDANGERING A CHILD.  Which I can't see how he endangered these kids by stuffing them in a closet.


"But..but...but...the little shiat angels might hurt each other!"
 
2013-06-16 06:29:39 PM

WorldCitizen: Infernalist: .

I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth if you're lucky or in a hole in the ground if you're not.  Don't fark with a father's kids.  You just don't do it.  You 'will' end up dead if you fark with the wrong guy's kids.

I'm just glad my dad's not like you. I'm sure I'm a better person for it.


I don't really give a shiat, but thanks for offering up your completely irrelevant opinion.

Personally, I think if you're okay with a stranger locking your kids up in a closet, you're a shiatty father and person in general.

But hey, you go ahead and hate my approach to kids and I'll hate your approach to kids and we'll happily scorn each other.

But, either way, don't farking touch my kids.
 
2013-06-16 06:31:48 PM

Airius: Mental note... if one of Infernalist's kids is raping my wife, preemptively kill Infernalist because he will irrationally defend scum that deserves to die rather than having the honor to cull his own like a good family would.


You can try.

AndreMA: Infernalist: I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth

...and you'll be spending a long time in prison, ITG, sparing your kids frome further expose to your piss-poor parenting skills.


You really don't get it.  If you fark with my kids, not only will I happily murder your ass, but I'll smile as I do hard time for it.   Some things are worth doing time over.
 
2013-06-16 06:32:04 PM
Just remember, if Infernalist's kids do anything that by any normal measures deem them unfit to live in our society, you have to cull Infernalist too... he just put you on notice.

BTW Infernalist, a good father cleans up his own messes --- and as a result has children that don't need to be cleaned up.
 
2013-06-16 06:32:56 PM

Airius: Just remember, if Infernalist's kids do anything that by any normal measures deem them unfit to live in our society, you have to cull Infernalist too... he just put you on notice.

BTW Infernalist, a good father cleans up his own messes --- and as a result has children that don't need to be cleaned up.


Like I said, you can try.
 
2013-06-16 06:35:28 PM

Infernalist: Airius: Mental note... if one of Infernalist's kids is raping my wife, preemptively kill Infernalist because he will irrationally defend scum that deserves to die rather than having the honor to cull his own like a good family would.

You can try.

AndreMA: Infernalist: I don't give a shiat if they're mini-dahmers, if you touch my kids, you'll be spitting up teeth

...and you'll be spending a long time in prison, ITG, sparing your kids frome further expose to your piss-poor parenting skills.

You really don't get it.  If you fark with my kids, not only will I happily murder your ass, but I'll smile as I do hard time for it.   Some things are worth doing time over.


And you're defending -- by your own words -- mini-Dahmers.

I'm generally opposed to preventive executions.

/generally
 
2013-06-16 06:36:50 PM
I'm guessing if irrational hotheadedness is a genetic trait, there's a good chance Infernalist's kids are going to end up in jail anyway. He might as well end up there beside them when irrationally attacking the victims of his kids' crimes.
 
2013-06-16 06:38:55 PM

mrlewish: They would never find them.
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Shoot, shovel, shaddup!
 
2013-06-16 06:40:25 PM
AndreMA --- at least the people who surreptitiously clean society do it anonymously at 300 yards while the people needing culling are loading their groceries in the car, rather than in the internet tough guy bare-knuckled fisticuffs manner with all the ego and bravado attached to it that Infernalist seems to think he will get his chance at...

someday he might piss one off... or given how he probably has raised his children... they might.

/generally
 
2013-06-16 06:41:21 PM

WorldCitizen: I'm guessing if irrational hotheadedness is a genetic trait, there's a good chance Infernalist's kids are going to end up in jail anyway. He might as well end up there beside them when irrationally attacking the victims of his kids' crimes.


Perhaps not genetic, but certainly learned. I urge Infernalist to show his remarks to the local CPS and explore foster care or adoption.
 
2013-06-16 06:49:29 PM
AndreMA

Actually the type of behavior of overcompensation I am observing here often comes from divorced-sans-custody men who are behind on their child support.
 
2013-06-16 06:53:10 PM

Infernalist: mrschwen: Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.

An insanity plea wouldn't work.

I really wouldn't care.  Fathers will do hard time and willingly so if you fark with their kids.  Someone without the legal authority locks my kids up?  He's going to get the asskicking of his life and if he looks even slightly like he's going to resist, I'll just shoot him dead.

Do not fark with a father's kids.


Oohh LOOK we got a badass over here!

Your kids sound like snowflakes.
 
2013-06-16 07:02:06 PM

Airius: AndreMA

Actually the type of behavior of overcompensation I am observing here often comes from divorced-sans-custody men who are behind on their child support.


I can certainly understand how that might come to pass, assuming that many of the horror stories of gender bias in the resolution of custody issues are true. Posturing by expressing a willingness to murder isn't very productive in such determinations reversed, though. Courts of all sorts tend to frown on even conditional willingness to commit serious crimes.

/nor is trolling on fark, another possible explanation
 
2013-06-16 07:05:21 PM

Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.


You sound as shiatty a parent as the parents of these worthless thugs in training. You don't beat up a victim of a crime. If my children were involved, they would be forced, by me, to offer their free labor, along with my money to buy replacement materials, in exchange for dropping charges. They would learn a very valuable lesson in how actions have consequences without having to be ruined by the penal system.
 
2013-06-16 07:06:11 PM

Airius: AndreMA

Actually the type of behavior of overcompensation I am observing here often comes from divorced-sans-custody men who are behind on their child support.


He's a loudmouthed, ITG twat who has just preemptively provided a solid alibi to anyone who shoots him in the face the moment he carries his Internet fantasies of violence into the analog world. Let me tell you, one of the hallmarks of violent criminals is there unmitigated stupidity in condemning themselves. I'm willing to bet he has court orders forcing him to stay away from "his" kids
 
2013-06-16 07:11:54 PM

Azlefty:  While it would really piss me off, but I really doubt I would threaten 8-10 year old kids with a hammer over it; the parents maybe, the kids no.

The kids were not hurt.  They were not allowed to leave until the cops showed up, but they didn't get shot, they didn't go the hospital, they aren't walking on crutches, they don't even have any bruises to show.

All he did was make sure they were still there when the cops showed up, so they would be punished for their crimes, and he's the one in jail.

What that leads to is either thugs being allowed to do whatever they want, or people taking care of the problem on their own without calling the cops.  Next time, he has a lot of incentive to just shoot them and be done with it.

Infernalist: You really don't get it. If you fark with my kids, not only will I happily murder your ass, but I'll smile as I do hard time for it. Some things are worth doing time over.


That "My kids can do anything they want and if you try to stop them, I'll kill you" attitude is exactly why these kids are getting away with trashing a house.  Someone should shoot you and your kids, both.

Gyrfalcon: Man, I love all the GED lawyers springing up around Fark lately.


You're usually pretty bright, but the idea that "only people with law degrees are allowed to have an opinion" isn't up at your usual standards.

 
2013-06-16 07:15:42 PM
Here is a local article with more info. The comments are worth reading.

A quote from the "parent" of the little shiats:

"I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."
Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.


Well, Mr. Bowler, I believe I understand why your children are such little assholes.
 
2013-06-16 07:31:35 PM

Infernalist: Maul555: Infernalist: Speaking as a father, if my kids did something this farking retarded, I'd still kick the living shiat out of any guy who locks em in a closet.

And then I'd beat them within an inch of their lives.

It's all about priorities.  You're not a cop, you're not a judge, you don't get to lock my kids up.

Then keep your kids off my property.   And if you ever did try to follow through with the 2nd part of your brilliant plan, you would rightfully be shot dead in the doorway.

Nah, I'd just bring a gun with me and shoot you first.  Plead temporary insanity.  Don't fark with my kids.



You sound special.  The retarded kind.
 
2013-06-16 07:41:22 PM

Infernalist: But, either way, don't farking touch my kids.


Waves finger 1mm in front of your kids face.  "I'm not touching them"
 
2013-06-16 07:42:27 PM

JuggleGeek: Gyrfalcon: Man, I love all the GED lawyers springing up around Fark lately.

You're usually pretty bright, but the idea that "only people with law degrees are allowed to have an opinion" isn't up at your usual standards.


You were far more polite in saying that than I would've been.
 
2013-06-16 07:44:31 PM
Look, just because I love my kids more than you love yours, that's no reason to make disparaging remarks about my character.
 
2013-06-16 07:45:39 PM
Another comment from the above posted article cracks me up:

I tell you what Mr. Bowler, someone needs to install a little fear into your hoodlums so they wont do stuff like this again. Apparently you have failed as a parent. You should have taken your boys home and reamed them out, so much that they wished they were back in that closet.
 
kab
2013-06-16 07:46:43 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Should have shot the little bastards.


done in 3.
 
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