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(USA Today)   The latest everyday thing that is trying to kill you? Your driveway   (usatoday.com) divider line 40
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-16 12:47:39 PM  
coal tar pitch, which the National Toxicology Program considers a human carcinogen.

Wait until they find out what's in gasoline.
 
2013-06-16 01:20:02 PM  
Why do we park in driveways, but drive on parkways?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-16 01:36:10 PM  
AlanSmithee: Why do we park in driveways, but drive on parkways?

The Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation allows parking on some parkways, and would prefer people not drive on them.
 
2013-06-16 03:17:13 PM  
Ricky I need more hash logs.
 
2013-06-16 03:18:27 PM  
Mine just gives me the munchies.
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2013-06-16 03:19:53 PM  
This is carbon copy the same derp foisted off when lead was finally removed from gas.

The old lies are the old lies, but so what when pop history only goes back 10 years or so?
 
2013-06-16 03:21:31 PM  

AlanSmithee: Why do we park in driveways, but drive on parkways?


Gallagher, is that you?
 
2013-06-16 03:21:34 PM  
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2013-06-16 03:22:32 PM  
Good thing I'm too lazy to bother sealing my drive.

Eco friendly bum.
 
2013-06-16 03:23:12 PM  

violentsalvation: Ricky I need more hash logs.


This is what I get for trying to make mine dressed all over and get two birds stoned at once with a reference and a picture, make my words this won't happen again.  Just remember what comes around is all around, Lahey.
 
2013-06-16 03:23:37 PM  

snocone: This is carbon copy the same derp foisted off when lead was finally removed from gas.

The old lies are the old lies, but so what when pop history only goes back 10 years or so?


The envirowackos continue to take away things from us saying they are bad, look at what they did to mercury as well. Someone had it in for the barometer and thermometer industries that used them, and invested in red dye.   study it out
 
2013-06-16 03:26:44 PM  
What in tarnation?! Last I heard of a driveway hurtin' someone it bitumen.
 
2013-06-16 03:26:45 PM  
Well now my dandruff is out of control but at least I'm not getting cancer !
 
2013-06-16 03:29:10 PM  
I'll bet asphalt contains coal tar as well. So I guess it's back to sustainable dirt roads...
Greenie Weenies want to move us back to a sustainable subsistence farming economy.
Of course, may folks will have to die off to get the population back to sustainable levels.
 
2013-06-16 03:33:48 PM  
My driveway has a fire hydrant in the way. It wants to fark up bumpers.
 
2013-06-16 03:34:37 PM  
Concrete driveway FTW. I can sit back and relax while my neighbors with asphalt driveways slave away applying black sealer in the hot sun. Then, when I feel like it, after some oil spills on it, I can use pretty much anything I want to clean it, then spray it with the hose to rinse. Most stuff that dissolves oil will dissolve tar and asphalt, too. Why would you use anything other than concrete for a driveway?
 
2013-06-16 03:36:25 PM  
Disney had a vision quite early of rubber roads and  stone tires.
Visions!
 
2013-06-16 03:37:26 PM  
My driveway isn't asphalt, you hillbilly.

Concrete, like its supposed to be.
 
2013-06-16 03:41:31 PM  

Greek: Concrete driveway FTW. I can sit back and relax while my neighbors with asphalt driveways slave away applying black sealer in the hot sun. Then, when I feel like it, after some oil spills on it, I can use pretty much anything I want to clean it, then spray it with the hose to rinse. Most stuff that dissolves oil will dissolve tar and asphalt, too. Why would you use anything other than concrete for a driveway?


you probably have a gas grill too
 
2013-06-16 03:46:49 PM  
FTA: The industry disagrees, saying government and academic studies are flawed and there's no definitive proof that its coal tar products cause harm.

Says every company that has made any potentially dangerous product ever.
 
2013-06-16 03:47:32 PM  

AlanSmithee: Why do we park in driveways, but drive on parkways?


1) it's not my fault your property is too small to drive on, some people actually have to drive to get from the road to their house, hence a DRIVEWAY

2) parkway was originally for a road in nature type areas known a parks, a usage of the word that is older than a place you leave your car, but has obviously been corrupted over the years
 
2013-06-16 03:49:42 PM  
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2013-06-16 03:56:32 PM  
So if coal tar is so toxic to humans, why is it used in topical preparations for people with psoriasis? I use a coal tar shampoo to keep mine at bay. Is this a different kind of coal tar?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-16 03:57:08 PM  
So I guess it's back to sustainable dirt roads...

One town north of Boston specified crushed shell driveways.
 
2013-06-16 04:00:52 PM  

CruJones: My driveway isn't asphalt, you hillbilly.

Concrete, like its supposed to be.


I'm on gravel and dirt.  It does try and kill me in the spring.  Damned gulleys get a bit out of control and there's only so much the 4x4 can do before it falls over.
 
2013-06-16 04:02:03 PM  
TFA says it's mainly an east coast thing. I'm out here on the west coast, so they can kiss my asphalt.
 
2013-06-16 04:09:30 PM  

ZAZ: coal tar pitch, which the National Toxicology Program considers a human carcinogen.

Wait until they find out what's in gasoline certain dandruff shampoos.

 
2013-06-16 04:10:25 PM  
How embarrassing for us to ban this in Minnesota. Its not like we have many lakes, streams or the source of a major waterway that intersects the nation for the toxins to run into.
 
2013-06-16 04:18:38 PM  

lohphat: ZAZ: coal tar pitch, which the National Toxicology Program considers a human carcinogen.

Wait until they find out what's in certain dandruff shampoos.


If tested negative for human carcinogens  I would certainly be willing to drink her bathwater.

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2013-06-16 04:26:45 PM  

rhondajeremy: So if coal tar is so toxic to humans, why is it used in topical preparations for people with psoriasis? I use a coal tar shampoo to keep mine at bay. Is this a different kind of coal tar?


Same stuff, different doses. An abstract from 1995 on the issue
 
2013-06-16 05:31:37 PM  

wildcardjack: rhondajeremy: So if coal tar is so toxic to humans, why is it used in topical preparations for people with psoriasis? I use a coal tar shampoo to keep mine at bay. Is this a different kind of coal tar?

Same stuff, different doses. An abstract from 1995 on the issue


Good to know....will have to keep an eye on that but stuck using the stuff for now...those huge psoriasis spots I get on my scalp are very painful...have tried alternatives but nothing works as well (for me) as washing twice weekly with coal tar shampoo.
 
2013-06-16 05:41:38 PM  
I love coal tar shamoo smell.
 
2013-06-16 06:04:18 PM  
Is that the same stuff 'we' used to chew when 'we' were kids??
 
2013-06-16 06:19:14 PM  
I'm an excellent driver, excellent driver.

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2013-06-16 09:18:32 PM  

snocone: This is carbon copy the same derp foisted off when lead was finally removed from gas.

The old lies are the old lies, but so what when pop history only goes back 10 years or so?


You do realize that lead is a potent neurotoxin and its removal has had positive social consequences?
 
2013-06-16 10:28:22 PM  
That's why I only have my driveway professionally sealed by members of the Irish travelers clan.
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2013-06-17 12:08:08 AM  

haywatchthis: Greek: Concrete driveway FTW. I can sit back and relax while my neighbors with asphalt driveways slave away applying black sealer in the hot sun. Then, when I feel like it, after some oil spills on it, I can use pretty much anything I want to clean it, then spray it with the hose to rinse. Most stuff that dissolves oil will dissolve tar and asphalt, too. Why would you use anything other than concrete for a driveway?

you probably have a gas grill too


I have one only because a friend gave it to me. I don't use it. I use a charcoal grill. Food tastes better when grilled on charcoal, so there is a benefit to using it, even with the tiny bit more effort involved (and I actually enjoy that part, too). What benefit is there of an asphalt driveway vs. a concrete one, however? I really can't think of a single one, aside from slightly better resistance to salt, though properly cured concrete really doesn't have a lot of trouble with that, either. Asphalt driveways absorb oil and get soft, they develop ruts over time, they crack and break up worse than concrete, they serve as a heat reservoir, they're harder to clean, they have to be resealed periodically because of these things. I don't mind extra work to maintain something when there is a clear benefit to using that thing vs. another, lower- maintenance option. But when there is literally no benefit to the harder- to- care for item, what's the point?

Oh, and before you make any other assumptions: I live in a 90- year old house. It doesn't have vinyl siding, and I don't mind painting, because vinyl looks fake. I don't drive newer cars, because even with the extra maintenance, I save a lot of money that way (being a mechanic helps in this, of course!) But again... and I'm willing to learn- what benefit does an asphalt driveway have over a concrete one that justifies the extra maintenance and lower durability?
 
2013-06-17 01:54:54 AM  
Never mind simple drive-ways, what about all the blacktop roads in America? The whole country's doomed.
 
2013-06-17 12:05:00 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: snocone: This is carbon copy the same derp foisted off when lead was finally removed from gas.

The old lies are the old lies, but so what when pop history only goes back 10 years or so?

You do realize that lead is a potent neurotoxin and its removal has had positive social consequences?


So, you approve of removing highly toxic material from the environment in spite of the huge financial profit in poisoning you?
 
2013-06-17 01:16:40 PM  

wildcardjack: rhondajeremy: So if coal tar is so toxic to humans, why is it used in topical preparations for people with psoriasis? I use a coal tar shampoo to keep mine at bay. Is this a different kind of coal tar?

Same stuff, different doses. An abstract from 1995 on the issue


FTF Abstract: "The finding that the urine concentration of carcinogenic PAH was as high in these subjects one day after shampooing as it is in coke-oven workers after seven days of work is, at first glance, extremely worrisome, especially given that coke oven workers have an increased rate of death from respiratory cancer.

/switching to Head & Shoulders
 
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