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(The Eagle)   Russian tycoon wants to move his mind into robot, hopes to one day tell world to bite his shiny metal ass   (theeagle.com) divider line 47
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2013-06-16 08:39:37 AM
What's next? Living statues that move when you aren't looking?
 
2013-06-16 08:48:16 AM

Chabash: What's next? Living statues that move when you aren't looking?


 Just..stay out of the shadows...
 
2013-06-16 09:00:58 AM
How many miniature giraffes does he own?
 
2013-06-16 09:18:41 AM
barfat.com
BZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
 
2013-06-16 09:27:51 AM
We're not gonna honor those bogus treaties.
 
2013-06-16 09:34:32 AM

Dedmon: Chabash: What's next? Living statues that move when you aren't looking?

 Just..stay out of the shadows...


and take refuge in something incredibly old.
 
2013-06-16 09:58:50 AM
Dude let it go, you're gonna die accept it because the moment you get yourself in a robot body I'm going to have my son turn it off on you.
 
2013-06-16 10:04:53 AM
RIP Universe
 
2013-06-16 10:19:44 AM
Sounds to me like he's basically talking about the Singularity
 
2013-06-16 10:21:23 AM
Daffodil
 
2013-06-16 10:23:43 AM
Cybermen are about to be real.
 
2013-06-16 10:27:41 AM

ramen_for_all: Cybermen are about to be real.


Just throw sold gold coins at them.
 
2013-06-16 10:28:23 AM

FrancoFile: ramen_for_all: Cybermen are about to be real.

Just throw sold some gold coins at them.



Sunday morning Farkitis strikes again!
 
2013-06-16 10:35:17 AM
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So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.
 
2013-06-16 10:47:33 AM
He wants to, but he's dying from expose to lunar rock dust. Instead, he'll force his hot and young female business partner to undergo the change.
 
2013-06-16 10:48:04 AM
ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.
 
2013-06-16 11:10:38 AM

Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.


for maximum Barbeau (and a bevy of other beauties) goodness do get the Unrated Version of Roger Corman's adaptation of Bram Stoker's Burial of the Rats. your penis will thank you.
 
2013-06-16 11:16:07 AM

Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.


Yup. The wetware is where we reside. Now, take the brain out and put it in a robot body to make a cyborg - a la ghost in the shell - and yeah it's still you. Copy the information to a different brain though and now you have made a homunculous of you. A separate, new, entity that isn't actually you, but just has a very detailed biography of you.

And any of that stuff is pretty far off on the horizon. After all of us current humans have died surely.
 
2013-06-16 11:17:44 AM

js34603: How many miniature giraffes does he own?


Came for this ref, left satisfied.
 
2013-06-16 11:18:19 AM
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2013-06-16 11:42:49 AM

mongbiohazard: Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.

Yup. The wetware is where we reside. Now, take the brain out and put it in a robot body to make a cyborg - a la ghost in the shell - and yeah it's still you. Copy the information to a different brain though and now you have made a homunculous of you. A separate, new, entity that isn't actually you, but just has a very detailed biography of you.

And any of that stuff is pretty far off on the horizon. After all of us current humans have died surely.


The trick is that you slowly replace bits of the brain with hardware so you maintain a continuity of self. I can't remember where I read it, but I think they have already done experiments where electronic neurons are integrated into the brain's functions on animal test subjects (or at least in the Petri dish), so it seems fairly doable if you design the equipment right.
 
2013-06-16 11:50:40 AM

Mad_Radhu: The trick is that you slowly replace bits of the brain with hardware so you maintain a continuity of self. I can't remember where I read it, but I think they have already done experiments where electronic neurons are integrated into the brain's functions on animal test subjects (or at least in the Petri dish), so it seems fairly doable if you design the equipment right.


I'd thought of that, too. I'd like to hear someone expand on this.
 
2013-06-16 11:53:47 AM

Mad_Radhu: mongbiohazard: Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.

Yup. The wetware is where we reside. Now, take the brain out and put it in a robot body to make a cyborg - a la ghost in the shell - and yeah it's still you. Copy the information to a different brain though and now you have made a homunculous of you. A separate, new, entity that isn't actually you, but just has a very detailed biography of you.

And any of that stuff is pretty far off on the horizon. After all of us current humans have died surely.

The trick is that you slowly replace bits of the brain with hardware so you maintain a continuity of self. I can't remember where I read it, but I think they have already done experiments where electronic neurons are integrated into the brain's functions on animal test subjects (or at least in the Petri dish), so it seems fairly doable if you design the equipment right.


Exactly - our sense of consciousness is entirely dependent on having enough neurons to maintain the self OS if you will. Slowly start subbing out and then flash copy everything over.

/ Where is your God and Holy Spirit now?
 
2013-06-16 12:01:55 PM
Wait, I think I've read this book...he then goes to Mars for fossil hunting, right?
 
2013-06-16 12:14:56 PM
He just wants to do it for the blackjack and hookers.  In fact, forget the blackjack!
 
2013-06-16 12:20:45 PM
Welcome to Life. Your mental state is being temporarily adjusted; please remain calm...
 
2013-06-16 02:28:25 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

/ Obscure?
// ... or just reviled?
 
2013-06-16 02:47:39 PM

ravenlore: Approves:

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So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.


A more likely example from that series would be the CEO/owner of a prosthetics company they meet during one of the episodes.  He had himself transferred to what amounts to a brain bucket with legs both as a publicity stunt for the business and because he REALLY wanted to be a cyborg.  I think it was even mentioned that he could have upgraded at some point to a more human-looking body, but didn't want to.
 
2013-06-16 03:15:57 PM
I guess nobody informed him that in russia, robot move its mind into YOU
 
2013-06-16 03:35:56 PM
Nnnn you are letting everyone down! You will never get robot legs!
 
2013-06-16 04:43:31 PM
I think I've read this story somewhere before.....

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-16 04:44:05 PM
I think if I were able to move my brain into a robot chassis, I wouldn't put my brain in a single moving body. I'd keep my brain somewhere very safe and secure and remotely pilot drones as necessary to explore the universe. It would kind of ruin my day if an accident happened and my brain's container was destroyed.
 
2013-06-16 05:51:09 PM

Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.


Ok, so...

We implant the brain in a cybernetic casing, and through the years, we remove a bit of this and that from the brain with neural features until everything that's left is a machine.
 
2013-06-16 07:02:49 PM

Dedmon: Chabash: What's next? Living statues that move when you aren't looking?

 Just..stay out of the shadows...


Hey, who turned out the lights?
 
2013-06-16 07:49:01 PM

CygnusDarius: We implant the brain in a cybernetic casing, and through the years, we remove a bit of this and that from the brain with neural features until everything that's left is a machine.


Do you think that'd work? I mean, if it'd work, then fark yeah, but I'm not a neurologist so I don't know if it'd work..
 
2013-06-16 08:28:58 PM

Mentalpatient87: ravenlore:
So the dude wants to go full cyborg...I would in a heartbeat provided the prosthetic bodies available were acceptable.

I feel like we've had this thread a couple times before. The thing is, you're not transferring your mind. You're making a copy. Now, it might be a very good copy, it might even believe it's you. It isn't. You're dead. Your copy is the Barbeau-bot.


Since you are just a copy of yourself made out of food, I fail to see the problem. Also our memory is fallible anyways, so what exactly do you think will be lost here?
 
2013-06-16 10:14:25 PM
Good points. I think I agree with you here. It could work, I guess. Now comes the problem of finding some sort of synthetic replacement part that isn't just as fragile and finite as an organic brain.

//and has wifi
 
2013-06-16 10:34:07 PM
The question is, will he be self-conscious or self-aware when he's a cyborg? Or will he be dead, and his brain a Frankenstein brain controlled by a computer?
 
2013-06-16 10:35:48 PM
Without an physical, biological body, how would your brain cope without needing to perform those biological functions (breathing, sleeping, etc) ever again? And even if you could keep the brain alive outside its body, how would you program it to run its new robot body?
 
2013-06-16 10:41:56 PM

Mentalpatient87: [barfat.com image 288x205]
BZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!


My nipples are hard just thinking about it.
 
2013-06-17 12:25:04 AM

mongbiohazard: - a la ghost in the shell -


media.tumblr.com
Hey, who turned out the lights?
 
2013-06-17 01:06:17 AM
http://www.reverbnation.com/earthtoohio/song/3183939-on-the-wire

A little ditty on this subject for your enjoyment....
 
2013-06-17 01:37:05 AM
Transferring your mind to a computer mind would never work, the stream of consciousness would be broken. Having a prosthetic body with my wet brain inside could be cool.  If 'downloading' a mind into a computer there would be essentially two brains mine and faux me. Faux me would talk and act like me but isn't me -- personally, I don't see the benefit. Society would benefit but not the individual.
 
2013-06-17 03:30:16 AM
What about emotions?
If you were made entirely out of machine, then you wouldn't have the chemical reactions in your brain that stimulate emotional responses... We know love is a chemical, we know fear is a chemical, we know things like serotonin and dopamine affect our moods. So if we took the chemistry out of our brains, would we be left thinking like machines? The emotional self would be gone. And if that's gone, if we can't experience joy, or sexual arousal, or any other emotion, then what's the point of continuing to exist?
 
2013-06-17 08:20:30 AM
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2013-06-17 12:45:15 PM
chrome warned me of malware on that site.  did anyone else get a warning?
 
2013-06-17 12:47:30 PM
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