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(WFAA Fort Worth)   Hell hath no fury like a minivan mom scorned: After knife-wielding robber appeared from the third-row seats and threatened to hurt her two young children if she didn't give him $200, mom goes ballistic, punches guy, and runs him over as he fled   (wfaa.com) divider line 90
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2013-06-15 11:50:31 PM
 
2013-06-15 11:56:26 PM
Never get between a mama lion and her cubs. She will f*ck you up good.
 
2013-06-16 12:14:35 AM
fta she was able to rip the knife out of his hand ... punched him in the face ... the next thing I thought was if he gets away he can do this to somebody else ... And I ended up running completely over him.

Nice work, Mrs. Baker. Y'know, I'll bet it never occurred to her that she was capable of doing such a thing.
 
2013-06-16 12:35:12 AM
A lot of states would probably frown on running someone over when they're no longer a threat to you. Lucky for her she lives in Texas.
 
2013-06-16 12:40:36 AM
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2013-06-16 12:46:46 AM

fusillade762: A lot of states would probably frown on running someone over when they're no longer a threat to you. Lucky for her she lives in Texas.


Don't mess with Texas mom.
 
2013-06-16 01:09:09 AM

fusillade762: A lot of states would probably frown on running someone over when they're no longer a threat to you. Lucky for her she lives in Texas.


Clara Harris would like a word with you, I believe she's reachable care of Texas dept of Corrections, Gatesville unit. ;-)
 
2013-06-16 01:30:34 AM
hell ya.
 
2013-06-16 01:36:44 AM
She should have backed over him for good measure.

Isn't the first question at a Texas death investigation "Did he need killin'?"
 
2013-06-16 02:46:27 AM
Awesome.
 
2013-06-16 05:34:57 AM
That oughta learn him.
 
2013-06-16 06:17:08 AM

R.A.Danny: She should have backed over him for good measure.


That's only allowed when it's a lawyer.
 
2013-06-16 06:23:15 AM
I bet those kids are not going to argue with mom anymore about eating their vegetables she will mess them up.
 
2013-06-16 06:23:37 AM
Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.
 
2013-06-16 06:30:29 AM
Subby lost track of his HERO tag.
 
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2013-06-16 06:33:26 AM
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You ran this guy over on foot?
That's tough, kid.
That's double tough.
 
2013-06-16 06:34:24 AM

Mock26: Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.


At the very least, it really wasn't a good idea to say, in writing, in the media, that she intended to run him over.

//I have the script for "The Transporter 4".
 
2013-06-16 06:37:59 AM

ModernLuddite: Mock26: Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.

At the very least, it really wasn't a good idea to say, in writing, in the media, that she intended to run him over.

//I have the script for "The Transporter 4".


She intended to clip him.

He was a threat to her and her family.

He was a threat to that person he was convicted of raping in 1976.

At some point you have to ensure these criminals aren't a threat to me.

Thanks Dorothy!!!
 
2013-06-16 06:52:55 AM
You people are pathetic, this is obviously a racist trying to pursue and run over minorities. People like her and Zimmerman belong in prison.
 
2013-06-16 06:57:11 AM

ModernLuddite: Mock26: Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.

At the very least, it really wasn't a good idea to say, in writing, in the media, that she intended to run him over.

//I have the script for "The Transporter 4".


He threatened her children and claimed to be armed, and she did everything she needed to in self defense. Even the worst public defender could get her off, if anyone was interested in charging her. Which they won't be 'cause it's Texas.

And tbh, I might've backed up over the farker repeatedly if someone threatened my niece and nephew like that. I don't even have kids, but the *thought* of someone threatening harm to 'em makes me pretty batshiat. I'm not being internet tough chick, and I certainly wouldn't want to go to prison. But rationality goes out the goddamned window. I can't even imagine how much more it has to be for a mother (or father).
 
2013-06-16 07:12:07 AM
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/this will not end well.
 
2013-06-16 07:18:03 AM
Obviously an obama voter.
 
2013-06-16 07:28:55 AM

Lady Indica: ModernLuddite: Mock26: Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.

At the very least, it really wasn't a good idea to say, in writing, in the media, that she intended to run him over.

//I have the script for "The Transporter 4".

He threatened her children and claimed to be armed, and she did everything she needed to in self defense. Even the worst public defender could get her off, if anyone was interested in charging her. Which they won't be 'cause it's Texas.

And tbh, I might've backed up over the farker repeatedly if someone threatened my niece and nephew like that. I don't even have kids, but the *thought* of someone threatening harm to 'em makes me pretty batshiat. I'm not being internet tough chick, and I certainly wouldn't want to go to prison. But rationality goes out the goddamned window. I can't even imagine how much more it has to be for a mother (or father).


Not fully true.  In most states once you (or the people around you) are out of immediate danger you no longer have the right to use deadly force.  It is why you generally get in serious trouble if you shoot a home invader as he is fleeing your home.  If the guy had jumped out of the car, pulled another knife and went after someone else then that would constitute an immediate danger to someone else and the use of force would be justified.  But just thinking he might harm some unknown person generally does not justify the use of force.
 
2013-06-16 07:49:05 AM
"He kind of 'zagged' and I turned, intending to clip him in the side or something to get him to stop," she said. "And I ended up running completely over him."

LOL.   "Oops".

/Good luck getting a conviction
 
2013-06-16 07:53:16 AM
teto85 ,You forgot the "Approves" caption.
 
2013-06-16 07:56:55 AM

Mock26: But just thinking he might harm some unknown person generally does not justify the use of force.


There have been many cases where police have used their car to bump people trying to escape. If you can not outrun a criminal, does he deserve to escape.
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2013-06-16 08:02:31 AM

smitty04: Mock26: But just thinking he might harm some unknown person generally does not justify the use of force.

There have been many cases where police have used their car to bump people trying to escape. If you can not outrun a criminal, does he deserve to escape.
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The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.
 
2013-06-16 08:08:15 AM

Mock26: The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.


So you want to bet money on if she's charged or not? and if so, what she's charged with?  Cause one way or another, she'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.
 
2013-06-16 08:23:31 AM

Alonjar: Mock26: The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.

So you want to bet money on if she's charged or not? and if so, what she's charged with?  Cause one way or another, she'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.


No bet, because this is Texas.  They have some pretty odd notions down there (such as allowing people to use deadly force to protect property).  But, she ran down someone who was not an immediate threat to herself or anyone else.  That is pretty much indisputable.  But, what that means in Texas I really do not know.  I do know that in some other states what she did would constitute a crime.
 
2013-06-16 08:25:34 AM
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2013-06-16 08:26:41 AM

Mock26: Good for her, but unfortunately I suspect that she is going to get in serious trouble for intentionally running him over.  Legally he was no longer a threat to her or anyone else at that point.  Oh wait.  This was in Texas.  They will probably reprimand her for not shooting him after running him over.


I suspect she'll get a verbal warning for failure to use due care.

// rape conviction? She's one lucky mom.
 
2013-06-16 08:30:47 AM
Reads headline. I bet it's a white woman from Texas.

click.

Damn skippy it's a white woman from Texas. Do not mess with white women from Texas.

Everyone knows this. That robber was just an ass kickin waiting to happen.

This story has everything in it. Kroger, cigarettes and a mom just protecting he boys and not understanding what the fuss is.

Had to be Texas or Ohio.
 
2013-06-16 08:38:46 AM

Mock26: Alonjar: Mock26: The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.

So you want to bet money on if she's charged or not? and if so, what she's charged with?  Cause one way or another, she'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.

No bet, because this is Texas.  They have some pretty odd notions down there (such as allowing people to use deadly force to protect property).  But, she ran down someone who was not an immediate threat to herself or anyone else.  That is pretty much indisputable.  But, what that means in Texas I really do not know.  I do know that in some other states what she did would constitute a crime.


It's instinct, I cannot see convicting her of a crime when she was following instinct.
If you mess with an animal's cubs (I'm thinking lion cubs or bear cubs, although any animal works) and momma sees you and comes after you, do you think she's going to stop pursuing you the second you drop the cub and begin running away?
 
2013-06-16 08:40:25 AM
How was she scorned?
 
2013-06-16 08:40:47 AM
Should read: assault minivan
 
2013-06-16 08:42:21 AM

ka1axy: I suspect she'll get a verbal warning for failure to use due care.


Our neighborhood had a big problem with someone stealing everything people had on their patios. A friend was was getting home at 4AM and spotted them loading their truck with his neighbors patio furniture so he fired a bullet through the bed of the truck as they escaped. The cops read him the riot act but no one ever lost patio furniture after that incident
 
2013-06-16 08:44:19 AM

fusillade762: A lot of states would probably frown on running someone over when they're no longer a threat to you. Lucky for her she lives in Texas.


No one will care because it was a car.

Now, had she shot him, there would tears aplenty.
 
2013-06-16 08:47:47 AM

Hermione_Granger: Reads headline. I bet it's a white woman from Texas.

click.

Damn skippy it's a white woman from Texas. Do not mess with white women from Texas.

Everyone knows this. That robber was just an ass kickin waiting to happen.

This story has everything in it. Kroger, cigarettes and a mom just protecting he boys and not understanding what the fuss is.

Had to be Texas or Ohio.


Other than Kroger, not getting the Ohio reference, unless this has happened here before that I am unaware of.
 
2013-06-16 08:54:23 AM

Mock26: smitty04: Mock26: But just thinking he might harm some unknown person generally does not justify the use of force.

There have been many cases where police have used their car to bump people trying to escape. If you can not outrun a criminal, does he deserve to escape.
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The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.


That is actually untrue.

The police get away with it, but it's not actually any more legal for them to use deadly force if someone's life isn't threatened than for any citizen to use deadly force.

A private citizen in my state, and I believe in any state, has the authority to arrest a felon.  The police get the additional authority to arrest for a misdemeanor, and the authority to wright traffic tickets.
 
2013-06-16 09:00:06 AM

skwerl: Mock26: Alonjar: Mock26: The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.

So you want to bet money on if she's charged or not? and if so, what she's charged with?  Cause one way or another, she'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.

No bet, because this is Texas.  They have some pretty odd notions down there (such as allowing people to use deadly force to protect property).  But, she ran down someone who was not an immediate threat to herself or anyone else.  That is pretty much indisputable.  But, what that means in Texas I really do not know.  I do know that in some other states what she did would constitute a crime.

It's instinct, I cannot see convicting her of a crime when she was following instinct.
If you mess with an animal's cubs (I'm thinking lion cubs or bear cubs, although any animal works) and momma sees you and comes after you, do you think she's going to stop pursuing you the second you drop the cub and begin running away?


Yeah, pretty much the only thing she's got going for her if she's charged is an insanity defense.  I'd say that there's a good chance she won't be charged, since it's Texas.

But I can't be alone in thinking that the robber is going to get a lot more than $200 in the civil suit.
 
2013-06-16 09:03:11 AM

fusillade762: A lot of states would probably frown on running someone over when they're no longer a threat to you. Lucky for her she lives in Texas.


This, glad it looks like she won't be facing charges.
 
2013-06-16 09:03:46 AM

smitty04: ka1axy: I suspect she'll get a verbal warning for failure to use due care.

Our neighborhood had a big problem with someone stealing everything people had on their patios. A friend was was getting home at 4AM and spotted them loading their truck with his neighbors patio furniture so he fired a bullet through the bed of the truck as they escaped. The cops read him the riot act but no one ever lost patio furniture after that incident


Are you sure they just weren't collecting all the trash that people had left on their patios?
 
2013-06-16 09:10:13 AM
Alonjar
/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.


I would bet on something like Misdemeanor Reckless Endangerment, probation and a fine.
 
2013-06-16 09:17:28 AM
Bah, she won't be charges with a late hit penalty.  Temporary momsanity.
 
2013-06-16 09:18:18 AM
Fark needs an edit button.
 
2013-06-16 09:23:06 AM

Enemabag Jones: Alonjar
/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.

I would bet on something like Misdemeanor Reckless Endangerment, probation and a fine.


Fine her for only sending him to the hospital and not the morgue.
 
2013-06-16 09:26:26 AM
gfid
Enemabag Jones: Alonjar
/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.
I would bet on something like Misdemeanor Reckless Endangerment, probation and a fine.
Fine her for only sending him to the hospital and not the morgue.

It is a legal system, it isn't justice.

If you were a DA would you put up attempted murder charges and endanger your conviction rate?

Some people are suggesting since this is texas she may not even get that.
 
2013-06-16 09:29:00 AM

skwerl: Mock26: Alonjar: Mock26: The police have that authority.  Private citizens do not.

So you want to bet money on if she's charged or not? and if so, what she's charged with?  Cause one way or another, she'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

/The real world... not always as it appears in text books.

No bet, because this is Texas.  They have some pretty odd notions down there (such as allowing people to use deadly force to protect property).  But, she ran down someone who was not an immediate threat to herself or anyone else.  That is pretty much indisputable.  But, what that means in Texas I really do not know.  I do know that in some other states what she did would constitute a crime.

It's instinct, I cannot see convicting her of a crime when she was following instinct.
If you mess with an animal's cubs (I'm thinking lion cubs or bear cubs, although any animal works) and momma sees you and comes after you, do you think she's going to stop pursuing you the second you drop the cub and begin running away?


Do you know why human beings are More advance than animals. Because we developed the ability to think rationally. Comparing animals to humans is stupid

In any other state she would be charged because he was fleeing and therefore not an immediate threat. But this is Texas where they root against critical thinking

/I have no problem with her punching the guy because he was an immediate threat at the time
 
2013-06-16 09:44:23 AM
I understand why the law is the way it is. Still, assuming her story checks out, I'll be looking in this direction over here...
 
2013-06-16 09:46:11 AM
All she had to say was "He yelled at me as he ran away saying 'i'll be back to get you and your kids'"

does that kind of a threat justify killing someone who is running away?
 
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