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(Washington Post)   The United States puts more children and teenagers in juvenile detention than any other developed nations in the world, with about 130,000 detained in 2010. And as it turns out, this is very likely a bad idea   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 194
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2013-06-16 06:33:23 AM
Just getting them ready for FEMA camps.
 
2013-06-16 07:21:00 AM

fusillade762: hubiestubert: Weaver95: lets just throw everyone into one giant open air, unregulated prison.  how about Death Valley?  we can isolate it easy enough.  put in some basic infrastructure, like wells or whatever.  wall it off, then take all our undesirables and throw 'em into the prison.  once you go in, you don't get out.  inside - anything goes.  no rules, save you stay inside 'till you die.  we can throw in men, women, kids, political prisoners, damn near anyone we want.  just air drop supplies in on a random pattern at regular intervals.

The good news is, once we do that, we can just find some one eyed, long haired miscreant to haul folks out when things go FUBAR. THIS is a perfect plan!

I thought he was dead?

~
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Bah! Came here to retort that.

// but was gonna say "I thought you were dead"

// ie. accuse hubiestubert of being Snake
 
2013-06-16 08:11:15 AM
PER CAPITA MEANS "PER POPULATION"
IF YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED THIS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR TYPE
 
2013-06-16 08:11:53 AM

Ilmarinen: Mock26: OK, Einstein, what is the solution?  What do we do with a murderer, for example, if he is caught and convicted?  Wag our finger at him call him a naughty boy?  Let him go and ask that he never do it again?  Hmmm?

Unless people just jump to murder the prison system actually helps to create killers. A murderer might not have become a murderer if he had gotten on the right track earlier in his life instead of disrupting his education by going to prison and getting ideas from his fellow inmates. There was an article about this sort of thing recently, let me look it up

W

hat do you propose as an alternative?
 
2013-06-16 08:16:29 AM

mikewadestr: prjindigo: wesmon: Mock26: Dear Author, the  United States also has a hell of a lot more people than all other developed nations.  With that being said, what are the per capita comparisons to all the other countries?

Troll or idiot?

Dunno, they posted on Fark.com, its hard to tell...

US is first in per capita, more than twice the number of the next first world nation.  Kind of like how the US is first in teen pregnancy almost twice as much as number 2 UK.


See my above post, Mikewadestr....
 
2013-06-16 08:20:36 AM
And?
 
2013-06-16 08:33:32 AM

WizardofToast: Mix our high incarceration rates with our cultural favoring of punishment over rehabilitation and you basically have a giant whirlpool pulling people back into the system till they drop dead.


It's more than that. When you look at the racial breakdown of incarceration, it becomes clear that this is less about locking people up than about controlling and disenfranchising certain demographics. Ex-cons lose many of their rights; for instance, the vote. That we began to see this explosion in racially-motivated arrest and imprisonment right around the time Jim Crow was being dismantled and de facto segregation in the North undermined by school busing is no coincidence.
 
2013-06-16 08:43:06 AM

minoridiot: Has anyone considered beating their butts?   I know it's a crazy idea, but it might be an alternative to detention.


This isn't just some policy we stumbled into. Hollywood and the media have been playing up gang violence since the 70s; relabeling the sort of stupid scuffles kids have always gotten into as an "epidemic of violence" that needed dealing with. As a result, through the 80s and 90s politicians and school boards started putting police in our schools on a permanent basis, and this is the inevitable result. Youth behavior hasn't really changed one whit; we just decided to criminalize it. We don't need an alternative, we just need to take cops out of our schools and go back to handling behavior problems administratively.
 
2013-06-16 08:43:47 AM
TommyymmoT


Philadelphia is closing 23 schools.
But that's OK, they're building a $400 million dollar prison to make up for it.

Proving once again those Bible belt conservati... ohhh Philadelphia.
 
2013-06-16 08:50:44 AM

prjindigo: PER CAPITA MEANS "PER POPULATION"
IF YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED THIS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR TYPE


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2013-06-16 08:54:51 AM
Gee ya think the violent crime rate in the US might have something to do with the incarceration rate in the US?

I get a kick out of the posters who scream "but, but, PRIVATE PRISONS are to blame" as if the offenders willfully committing crimes had nothing to do with it.

You know, they are just walking along minding their own biz and get dropped in Super Max for no reason whatsoever!  How Unfair!
 
2013-06-16 09:22:53 AM

LordJiro: Mock26: Dear Author, the  United States also has a hell of a lot more people than all other developed nations.  With that being said, what are the per capita comparisons to all the other countries?

We're still number 1.

This is part of the reason why I laugh at the people getting their panties in a twist over the NSA. We've been in a police state for longer than a lot of people on Fark have been alive, and you're worried NOW?


Right, it's too late now. Just don't even worry about it and do your time like a man. Fark it!
 
2013-06-16 09:33:11 AM

TheWhoppah: hubiestubert: We chose a whole system of governance to PREVENT revenge, and instead we look to redress wrongs done to society and to persons throullugh reason


Bullshiat.  We used reason to recognize that amateur pitchfork-based revenge is message and prone to errors that results in the need for more revenge.  Government provides professional grade revenge with investigators that, in theory, care more about identifying the culprit than which ox was gored... with judges that care more about fairly applying the laws than who has a dog was in the fight... with wardens more concerned about preventing prisoner abuse and riots than selling indulgences.  Yes our system has a nice veneer of reason and civility but justice is primarily about revenge.  You are fooling yourself to insist otherwise.


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2013-06-16 09:33:12 AM

Turbo Cojones: Gee ya think the violent crime rate in the US might have something to do with the incarceration rate in the US?

I get a kick out of the posters who scream "but, but, PRIVATE PRISONS are to blame" as if the offenders willfully committing crimes had nothing to do with it.

You know, they are just walking along minding their own biz and get dropped in Super Max for no reason whatsoever!  How Unfair!


Whatever dude, there's a reason it's called con college.

Csb: The one and only night I've ever spent in jail (had a baggy with a stem and a couple of seeds and couldn't stop back talking the cop), I was the 14th person in an 8 man holding cell. Four people offered me "a job", said I could make a lot of money. One needed a new partner to help boost cars, two told me they could hook me up with a sweet gig cooking meth, and one said the same about slinging pot. If I wasn't gainfully employed with a supportive network of friends and family, I could very easily see how I would be tempted by these offers. I can also see how alluring that proposition would be for a young kid with no job and a family that didn't give a shiat. But I said no, because I knew when the morning came I'd be out and going back to work and that I wouldn't have to break the law again jut to make ends meet. Just to farking feed and clothe myself. If that's how jail was, I can't imagine the networking opportunities available in the farking prison system.

In short, go fark yourself.

/There's more ignorance on the main page than the politics tab
//And that's really saying a lot
 
2013-06-16 09:36:05 AM
perhaps they just need to reduce jail terms, remove the stigma of illegitimate babies, provide a guaranteed income whilst sorting out something long term, stack all the poor into housing projects where they can reinforce each other's irresponsible behaviour, and of course artifically inflate the self-esteem of personal failures

that has not worked at all for the last 40 years, but perhaps it just hasn't been tried long enough
 
2013-06-16 09:40:03 AM
Meh, legalize drugs and let the nonviolent drug offenders out.  The rest of them are probably trash.  Having spent several years of my life commuting by public transportation, I am only surprised by the number of miscreants who are free to roam the streets.

Let's face the facts: people are horrible.  They will abuse, steal from, rape, and kill each other even when it makes no sense and they have nothing to materially gain from it.  Instead of wasting more resources trying to rehabilitate folks who don't want to be rehabilitated, let's spend those resources on the millions of decent struggling folks who manage to fight the urge to go around stealing and killing.

In a perfect world we'd give everyone all the attention they need to change their life around, but we're not in a perfect world.  Criminals are the result of some combination of mental illness, poor upbringing, poverty, and sometimes just plain old stupidity.  Society isn't even close to addressing any of those problems, and thus the cycle of criminality will continue.  The best we can do for now is keep these damaged folk separate from decent law-abiding society.
 
2013-06-16 09:50:15 AM

minoridiot: Has anyone considered beating their butts?   I know it's a crazy idea, but it might be an alternative to detention.


give me doughnuts: Remove the profit motive for incarcerating people, and the rate of incarceration will go down.

Repeal ridiculous criminal and sentencing laws related to possession of marijuana, and the rate of incarceration will go down.


I, for one, have no problem with us publicly caning pot-heads.
 
2013-06-16 10:11:05 AM
Much like the conservative solution to teen pregnancy is to "punish" them by banning abortion and eliminating social support services - the idea that locking up kids is the solution to all their problems is ridiculous.
 
2013-06-16 10:22:40 AM
The children I knew or knew of (with the exception of two) who ended up in Juvie were there as a result of their parents.  Mom wouldn't get her lazy butt up and send the kids to school so the kids were sent away for truancy.
The exceptions were boys who shot and killed members of their 6th grade class.
In both instances, there were failures at home that brought about the situation.
 
2013-06-16 10:29:29 AM
There's plenty of data out there about sentencing inequality when it come to race. This article shows how it feeds the prejudiced types who can point out how one race is in jail more than others so THAT PROVES EVERYTHING.

/less white people every year
 
2013-06-16 11:12:56 AM
You are all already in prison.
The Nannys just have not had time to get all the bars and locks up, but never fear, they are working diligently on Prison America.

BTW, your new jailer looks, acts and thinks a lot like that TSA goon over at the airport.
 
2013-06-16 11:46:20 AM

Copper Spork: cptjeff: Let's fix it. There's a piece of legislation before Congress that should be a bipartisan measure that's going to come up for a push soon. The Youth PROMISE Act, which would invest in programs, chosen by local communities, that are proven to reduce youth violence, with the funding structured to encourage communities to take the savings from their corrections and police budgets and reinvest them in those same successful programs. Call your Representatives and ask them to support it. It saves money, is controlled at the community level, and reduces crime. Everybody wins.

Community organisers? Sounds like socialism.


Sounds like ineffective. how bout instilling fear into them. turn the juve halls into boot camps, hire a few drill sergeants..... voila!

/to me it is a sign of bad parenting.
 
2013-06-16 11:49:46 AM

cefm: Much like the conservative fundie solution to teen pregnancy is to "punish" them by banning abortion and eliminating social support services - the idea that locking up kids is the solution to all their problems is ridiculous.


Not the whole thing. Our problem? We make jail comfy. Heck, I volunteered for the Navy, and I got crapped on a hell of a lot worse that the guys in jail. That was one thing the Arizona loony sheriff had right... make prison unpleasant.
 
2013-06-16 12:31:16 PM

snuffy: see what absentee parenting gets us.


psh, the US puts more people in jail period than any other developed nation.

/that's what a pathological need to punish those we perceive as guilty gets us.
 
2013-06-16 12:36:34 PM
People_are_Idiots:
Not the whole thing. Our problem? We make jail comfy.

well, at least your handle is appropriate for one person here

/do you really believe that jails in the US are more comfortable than jails in the rest of the developed world?
 
2013-06-16 12:47:33 PM

Voiceofreason01: snuffy: see what absentee parenting gets us.

psh, the US puts more people in jail period than any other developed nation.

/that's what a pathological need to punish those we perceive as guilty gets us.


Juveniles are a tad different game. Drug law reform (marijuana specifically) would help reduce the rate, but ultimately, when it comes to kids misbehaving to the extent where the law gets involved, it's because there are a lack of good influences or disciplinarians in the child's life. You know... fathers.

Which brings me to my next item... Happy Father's Day for the male farkers out there who performed the basic human function of parenting and didn't run away from a harmless child like it was a ticking timebomb.
 
2013-06-16 12:50:10 PM
I noticed that the study referenced in the article said they could determine which judges were strict and which were lenient.  I wonder if they could also determine which judges were getting kick backs, because I bet that's an even bigger factor.
 
2013-06-16 12:51:56 PM

Voiceofreason01: People_are_Idiots:
Not the whole thing. Our problem? We make jail comfy.

well, at least your handle is appropriate for one person here

/do you really believe that jails in the US are more comfortable than jails in the rest of the developed world?


Yes, you, for assuming I'm talking about the rest of the world. I'm comparing our military vs our jails. I served did you?
 
2013-06-16 01:08:01 PM

ObeliskToucher: SuperNinjaToad: I think you missed the entire point.. even within the US the incarceration rates among juvies have gone up exponentially in the past 2 or 3 decades.
Now either kids in the US have gotten really violent all of a sudden or cops suddenly become more proactive in throwing people into prison compared to their peers before them. Since neither is probably true there is a 3rd possibility and that is our entire criminal/judicial system that is responsible for this exponential hike

It might have something to do with this statistic (from www.cdc.gov, 2008 data):

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Instead of comparing with other nations I like to see one with historical data.. I like to believe that the US have ALWAYS have high teen births per capita anyway.
 
2013-06-16 01:16:39 PM

TWX: minoridiot: Has anyone considered beating their butts?   I know it's a crazy idea, but it might be an alternative to detention.

"butbut Think of teh children!!!!!1!!!one!!"

In all seriousness, I agree with your sentiment. Kids need to learn that there are consequences for their actions before those consequences become enforced by the police and the courts.


...Except that, during puberty, the prefrontal cortex is one of the last areas of the brain to develop, meaning teenagers are aware that stupid shiat  looks cool--i.e. jumping off that roof on a bike--but  are biologically incapable of realizing it is a bad idea thanks to magical thinking--i.e. they don't realize they risk broken bones.

Or, to put it another way, when they think it's fun to shoplift, they  literally cannot understand what the consequences might be on a fundamental level. Beat them as much as you want--you can't change biology.

/And, as history has shown, it has never worked, no matter what discipline techniques a society uses. Teen boys are always the most hormone-filled idiots of the society, whether hunter-gatherers or princes of empires.
 
2013-06-16 02:16:28 PM

PsiChick: ...Except that, during puberty, the prefrontal cortex is one of the last areas of the brain to develop, meaning teenagers are aware that stupid shiat looks cool--i.e. jumping off that roof on a bike--but are biologically incapable of realizing it is a bad idea thanks to magical thinking--i.e. they don't realize they risk broken bones.

Or, to put it another way, when they think it's fun to shoplift, they literally cannot understand what the consequences might be on a fundamental level. Beat them as much as you want--you can't change biology.


There's no way I can agree with you on this just because I have a pretty good memory of when I was a teenage boy. Hormones made me do stupid things, but I KNEW they were stupid and understood the risks/consequences. I just knew I wanted to impress girls I had a crush on even more than I wanted to keep my leg from breaking. And of course we boys liked to make the risks we took look more impressive than they were to gain the benefits without as much negative consequences.
 
2013-06-16 02:28:43 PM

RicosRoughnecks: PsiChick: ...Except that, during puberty, the prefrontal cortex is one of the last areas of the brain to develop, meaning teenagers are aware that stupid shiat looks cool--i.e. jumping off that roof on a bike--but are biologically incapable of realizing it is a bad idea thanks to magical thinking--i.e. they don't realize they risk broken bones.

Or, to put it another way, when they think it's fun to shoplift, they literally cannot understand what the consequences might be on a fundamental level. Beat them as much as you want--you can't change biology.

There's no way I can agree with you on this just because I have a pretty good memory of when I was a teenage boy. Hormones made me do stupid things, but I KNEW they were stupid and understood the risks/consequences. I just knew I wanted to impress girls I had a crush on even more than I wanted to keep my leg from breaking. And of course we boys liked to make the risks we took look more impressive than they were to gain the benefits without as much negative consequences.


The bolded sentence is exactly what I mean by 'underdeveloped prefrontal cortex'. That's not actually something your brain should be capable of thinking under normal conditions.
 
2013-06-16 02:31:21 PM

RicosRoughnecks: There's no way I can agree with you on this just because I have a pretty good memory of when I was a teenage boy. Hormones made me do stupid things, but I KNEW they were stupid and understood the risks/consequences. I just knew I wanted to impress girls I had a crush on even more than I wanted to keep my leg from breaking. And of course we boys liked to make the risks we took look more impressive than they were to gain the benefits without as much negative consequences.


Don't forget that society has created a class of people called adolescents and basically isolated them from adults who can usually be a good influence.  This creates a sort of behavioral echo chamber.

When the only people you have to impress and seek approval from are other teens, dumb shiat gets as much approval as not so dumb shiat.  Adults have serious maturity problems at times, but put up with and reward far less dumb shiat.

Modern society could really use some introspection and realize that treating 17 year olds more like 5 year olds than 20 year olds is bound to lead to 17 year olds doing things that are not appropriate for 20 year olds and/or would only be done by 5 year olds.

Stop treating them like children and we will see less childlike behavior from them.
 
2013-06-16 02:41:00 PM

moothemagiccow: doglover: Legalize drugs. Bring back the swift death penalty for them as deserve it. Hold prosecutors accountable to draconian standards of conduct that put their life and the well being of their family in jeopardy in the event they wrongfully convict someone. Do away with sex offender registries. Make it illegal for a traffic violation ticket to monetarily benefit the state where it was issued.

Barely anyone gets pulled over here and everyone drives like a dick, or they're half asleep

TheWhoppah: SuperNinjaToad: The system itself is not about rehabilitation nor is it about corrections


Why should it be?  Justice is about (1) revenge and (2) keeping innocent people safe.  Who cares about the offenders.  fark them.  They suck.

So... life sentence for jaywalking? I care about the offenders when laws are dumb, education sucks, there's a national hatred of knowledge, and selling illegal drugs is a well-paying, easy job to get.



No, its really not.  Try reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freakonomics

especially the chapter on why drug dealers still live with their parents and get back to us, rather than making shiat up.
 
2013-06-16 02:46:35 PM

TheWhoppah: WhyteRaven74: TheWhoppah: Justice is, first and foremost, about revenge

Revenge fixes nothing. Revenge is based on the idea a present action can undo a past action. Which it clearly can not. Or that having committed some wrong a person is deserving of an equal or worse wrong. Justice does not work that way.


Thanks for your input Ghandi.  Now run along back to Utopia and smoke a bong with Jesus.  Like it or not, the human sense of justice is based squarely on revenge.  You can see it in a group of toddlers... as soon as they can walk they begin dishing out their own revenge-based justice.


I find that most often when people use how infants or toddlers act to prove their point that they are referencing individuals who are on the same intelligence and maturity level as they are.
 
2013-06-16 02:49:28 PM

PsiChick: The bolded sentence is exactly what I mean by 'underdeveloped prefrontal cortex'. That's not actually something your brain should be capable of thinking under normal conditions.


While I can definitely agree with you there, I also need to mention I never once broke anything. Like I said before, I would do something that looked dangerous and impressive, but usually without actually putting myself in any real danger. The self preservation instinct was definitely the strongest one I ever felt. It's those darn selfish genes trying to propagate themselves through any means necessary.
 
2013-06-16 03:06:25 PM

RicosRoughnecks: PsiChick: The bolded sentence is exactly what I mean by 'underdeveloped prefrontal cortex'. That's not actually something your brain should be capable of thinking under normal conditions.

While I can definitely agree with you there, I also need to mention I never once broke anything. Like I said before, I would do something that looked dangerous and impressive, but usually without actually putting myself in any real danger. The self preservation instinct was definitely the strongest one I ever felt. It's those darn selfish genes trying to propagate themselves through any means necessary.


Ah. Yeah, in that case (without knowing anything about your brain scans), I would guess that you, like me, actually  had a developed prefrontal cortex. If you'd acted on the urge and broken bones, you'd be a candidate for typical puberty, i.e. with a badly-developed prefrontal cortex.

/Like I said, I'm going off what you say, not brain scans, but with that context it now sounds like it
//The kids without it are littering Youtube.
 
2013-06-16 03:18:26 PM

hubiestubert: TheWhoppah: Justice is, first and foremost, about revenge.  The justice system is an attempt to create a fair system with professional disinterested accuracy but, at its core, it always has been and always will be about revenge.  Have you ever watched toddlers.  They understand revenge.  It is a basic part of our animal psyche and the right to seek revenge for wrongdoings is a fundamental human right.  Keeping revenge quarrels from plunging the tribe into chaos is one of the most basic functions of government.  It is one of the reasons the tribe chooses a chief.

So, the Enlightenment, the march of progress, the foundations of civilization, those are just kerfuffles, and truly, we should just arm ourselves and grab pitchforks and hanging ropes when we get antsy about our neighbor?

Oh wait. We DID choose a chief. We chose a whole system of governance to PREVENT revenge, and instead we look to redress wrongs done to society and to persons through reason. But that's too boring for a keen legal mind such your own, yes?

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Normally I agree with just about anything you say, but this time I agree with the person you're arguing with.

The system of which you speak largely serves the purpose of diffusing the responsibility for revenge across a larger demographic, say we the people as opposed to you the guy or you that lynch mob.

That's not to say that we don't strive for higher moral and ethical ideals in punishing crime (such as, ideally in my view, protecting people from the predators among them), but at its fundamental level punishing crime is still about payback.

You did wrong, now we the people (instead of we the lynch-mob or I the vigilante) are going to get you for it (and if we're thinking about it, protecting everyone else from you).

If someone hurt your daughter, can you truly say that you would be looking for anything more than payback by way of we the people?
 
2013-06-16 03:39:55 PM
Stupid behavior loses most of it's fun unless you know it is stupid in the first place.
 
2013-06-16 07:06:33 PM

Weaver95: lets just throw everyone into one giant open air, unregulated prison.  how about Death Valley?  we can isolate it easy enough.  put in some basic infrastructure, like wells or whatever.  wall it off, then take all our undesirables and throw 'em into the prison.  once you go in, you don't get out.  inside - anything goes.  no rules, save you stay inside 'till you die.  we can throw in men, women, kids, political prisoners, damn near anyone we want.  just air drop supplies in on a random pattern at regular intervals.


Why drop in supplies? As long as we keep throwing in people the problem takes care of itself!

Also add in "reality show" and you have a deal.
 
2013-06-16 07:32:51 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: You did wrong, now we the people (instead of we the lynch-mob or I the vigilante) are going to get you for it (and if we're thinking about it, protecting everyone else from you).

If someone hurt your daughter, can you truly say that you would be looking for anything more than payback by way of we the people?


This is one of the reasons that we employ a system of laws, to get folks who want revenge out of the business of serving up justice. As a father, someone who hurts my daughter had best hope that the police get there first. I won't be serving up justice, I will be serving up heapings of revenge. Which is why we have laws to prevent lynch mobs rolling out, because oddly enough, I might get the identity wrong. I might also not realize exactly the circumstances either. I will be blinded by rage, and justice isn't about rage. And if that poor SOB had family, they would then be looking for their own payback, and a whole circle of feuds then rolls out, vendetta after vendetta. Punishment is a factor, but that has to suit the crime, and the aggrieved party or their family isn't necessarily in the best position to decide that. We have that remove with a system of laws, and appointed police and judges and a whole passel of folks to intercede to avoid a cascade of revenge, because we've seen how that works out already.

Revenge is a powerful motivator, and society strives to punish those who have harmed folks, but at that remove to keep folks from that cascade of revenge that only leads to further violence. Mind you, our own system has its flaws. We are a nation that prides itself on being tough on crime, and our system right now breeds a LOT of crime through our economic and domestic policies, our less than stellar educational system that sees folks failing as a feature, not a bug. We are in fact banking on folks failing miserably, and some folks are seeing a tidy profit on keeping things rolling that way.

We can do better. We should be doing better, and that is really the way that folks should be voting, not to see this cycle continue.

We want less crime? Then we need a better social safety net. We need better education--not just better funded, but shifting our goals towards skills based education, as opposed to test standards which only gauge how well folks take tests. We are gearing ourselves towards a perpetuation of the troubles we see today. We need to focus on our local economies, we might want to rethink this idiotic War on Drugs that only serves to feed the prison industry--as well as pad out police budgets and likewise profit those who take a nice cut with seizures.

We don't, because folks like to play the "tough on crime" card, which only perpetuates the cycle, and only serves to create more felons, who have distinctly less opportunities after they have supposedly paid their debt to society. We are creating our own monsters to then react against, and then dare to be shocked when those monsters behave exactly thusly. Our justice system still needs some work, but it's still miles better than lynching folks we think did something...
 
2013-06-16 11:38:33 PM

doglover: Legalize drugs. Bring back the swift death penalty for them as deserve it. Hold prosecutors accountable to draconian standards of conduct that put their life and the well being of their family in jeopardy in the event they wrongfully convict someone. Do away with sex offender registries. Make it illegal for a traffic violation ticket to monetarily benefit the state where it was issued.


Bah!! You're describing a fantasy world! A justice system that BENEFITS the people?!? Lunacy!
 
2013-06-17 07:32:51 AM

prjindigo: PER CAPITA MEANS "PER POPULATION"
IF YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED THIS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR TYPE


Fail. Per Capita is reference to "per person" within a population. Now stop typing.
 
2013-06-17 12:36:59 PM
Just because you are not incarcerated doesn't mean you shouldn't be.

***************************************************
Nor does it mean you should be. Making the prison system a "growth industry" was a huge mistake and now our kids are paying the price.
 
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