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(IGN)   A recent poll of over 280,000 gamers shows that 81% of respondents favored the PS4 over the Xbone. Micro$oft VP Phil Spencer countered with, "This isn't a sprint" while strains of Vader's Theme played in the background   (ign.com) divider line 330
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2013-06-15 08:32:23 PM

BullBearMS: Elegy: Software structure and GUI response time make a big difference in the end user experience. Do try to keep up.

Paid Microsoft shill like typing detected.

XBone's hardware is a full third less powerful when it comes to graphics than the PS4.

That's just a fact, no matter how you try to spin it.

Costs more. Does less.


B-b-but it can tell if it's me or my wife commanding it to shut off because we're unimpressed!
 
2013-06-15 08:33:21 PM

JohnnyC: BumpInTheNight: That's the key difference:  I just don't think its impossible, but you seem to, that's all.

It isn't impossible, nor did I claim it was impossible, just not likely and certainly not the intended purpose. Strawman? Hmmm

BumpInTheNight: other then chowing popcorn in threads like these and watch as microsoft's arrogance and avarice triggers an implosion on yet another business line

Ahh... and here we finally get to the meat through all that fat. You're a Microsoft hater. So you're just confirming your biases and trolling for the lulz. Well... hope you enjoyed yourself.


When you wave your hand and say that something will never happen you're pretty much declaring you think its impossible, right?  I'm more like a disappointed ex-microsoft customer, I really like win7 and windows has been my preferred desktop platform since win3.1, I like their efforts to bring gaming to the masses (xbox & xbox360) but since Balmer took control of the wheel the whole company has been in a tailspin and everything they do these days just reeks of "We're too big to fail so suck our dick and like it.", blind to the market forces moving in to devour the gaping holes they're leaving in their market shares on all fronts.  The xbone is just the latest example of where they could have easily won the battle but went full retard instead, again.  Sony's history does not entitle them to half the praise they seem to be garnering compared to being the alternative to what MS dragged on stage.

I guess you could say I'm a Balmer hater, he's driving a once great company into the ground, one business line at a time.

Btw, your definition of trolling is amusing to me.
/that was trolling
 
2013-06-15 08:46:31 PM

JohnnyC: Cheater71: then you must have no life to spend so much time arguing on fark about something you supposedly don't care about one way or the other.

The dreaded, "you must have no life" strawman. He said he didn't care if you buy one or not. He said he just didn't like people repeating bullshiat and was trying to bring some facts to the conversation. I missed the part where he "shiat on PS4 and every gamer"... maybe you could be more specific?


Sure but I'd have to bring in comments hes made from earlier threads, and I'm not sure weather or not fark is cool with that. The no life comment comes from the fact that hes been doing this in every Xbox/PS4 thread for over a week now. If he doesn't care, why is he so active in these threads?
 
2013-06-15 08:55:37 PM

Cheater71: JohnnyC: Cheater71: then you must have no life to spend so much time arguing on fark about something you supposedly don't care about one way or the other.

The dreaded, "you must have no life" strawman. He said he didn't care if you buy one or not. He said he just didn't like people repeating bullshiat and was trying to bring some facts to the conversation. I missed the part where he "shiat on PS4 and every gamer"... maybe you could be more specific?

Sure but I'd have to bring in comments hes made from earlier threads, and I'm not sure weather or not fark is cool with that. The no life comment comes from the fact that hes been doing this in every Xbox/PS4 thread for over a week now. If he doesn't care, why is he so active in these threads?


(Thanks popcorn Johnny for saying that more succinctly than I could have)

Perhaps I argue because I'm a contrarian who enjoys a debating, especially when I hold the minority view?

And I give you my full permission to search through comments I've made in other XB1 threads. If you can find and link to ONE comment where I've "shat on the PS4" or advocated buying the XB1 despite people's problems with it, I'll buy you a month of TF.
 
2013-06-15 08:59:39 PM

Carth: JohnnyC: Carth: You can turn Kinect if off but your xbox won't function until you turn it back on. It is integrated at the OS level and needs to be connected to play any games or watch tv through xbox. That is what the last report i saw said if oyu have a link saying otherwise I"d love to see it.

See here. It's from Microsoft. Of course if you're like the next guy I'm replying to, it won't make a difference at all if you read that link because he thinks Microsoft is lying about what their system is doing...

BumpInTheNight: Right, because a microsoft press release is the most honest and trustable source of information about the underpinnings of their little box and what it will and won't do if MS was tasked or the box itself was exploited.

Okay... I think I understand. You're convinced that Microsoft is out to get you and this is just part of their nefarious plot. You're probably right... unplug everything, they are watching you.

The link flat out says you can't turn off kinect when the system is on you can only pause it. Sorry Microsoft not good enough. If the game I'm playing, or if I'm watching tv, and i don't want to use kinect i should be able to unplug it completely.


Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.
 
2013-06-15 09:02:19 PM
I've very happy with my 360, and wouldn't even consider the idea of getting a PS3.

Right now I see no way the the XBox One is going to present a better value than the PS4.

Microsoft has been doing so well lately.  I don't get the reason for suddenly going out of their way to alienate their customers.
 
2013-06-15 09:03:08 PM
Whoops, that was thanks JohnnyC not thanks Popcorn Johnny. I haz a confused on what tab I was in....
 
2013-06-15 09:03:34 PM

anfrind: Carth: There have been some reports that microsoft is employing reputation management companies to go online and post postive things about xbox one. That is why people are quick to label anyone supporting it a shill

For what it's worth, none of the shills in this thread have an "Account Created" date new enough to be part of a reputation management campaign (the accounts are all at least a year old, some much older).  Unless it's some kind of reputation management sleeper cell...


Why not? Fark has been a prominent discussion website for quite a few years. It would make sense for people working for a "reputation management" (I prefer the word "astroturfing" myself) company to have accounts here that they could use whenever one of the company's clients wants something promoted or denigrated. It might even be a selling point in an interview: "Do you have existing accounts on any of these [interviewer hands out list] that you are willing to use for work purposes?"

As for the Xbone/PS4 thing: I haven't bought anything from Sony since the rootkit debacle. I still can't truly comprehend how they got away with that. If I did something like that to you, I can guarantee you I'd be in prison; Sony does it, and it's okay? My latest console was an Xbox 360 for that reason. However, the restrictions on the Xbone are just insane. Mandatory check-ins? Mandatory Kinect monitoring? Mandatory Xbox Live? And you lose your entire game collection if anything happens to that XBL account?  Or if Microsoft EOL's a game, or the whole console?

Things like that make my Atari 2600 (I bought it for five bucks at a yard sale, with a bag of games) look remarkably appealing. At least it will still work even if my net connection goes in the toilet, and even though Atari hasn't existed as such for decades. While Microsoft's decisions re: the Xbone won't really drive me to that 2600, they'll guarantee that I'm not going to buy an Xbone. All else aside, I do not need some script kiddy monitoring that always-on Kinect and telling his buddies when it's safe to rob my house. (why yes, I am paranoid ... having your state's income tax records hacked will do this to you)

The whole thing has made me take a good hard look at what I actually need (to the extent that the word "need" even applies to entertainment) versus what I want, and what the price (not just monetary) actually is. I don't expect a corporation to be anything like a good citizen -- Ambrose Bierce had it right -- but there are limits to what I will put up with. Sony crossed that line when they decided that dropping rootkits on music customers' computers was a good idea, and Microsoft crossed that line with the Xbone. I'm old enough so that computer games are just one of many competing forms of entertainment for me, and this kind of thing lowers their value in that competition.
 
2013-06-15 09:03:56 PM
I don't know if I've ever seen a Fark thread where more people were obviously paid for their posts.
 
2013-06-15 09:04:02 PM

the money is in the banana stand: Carth: JohnnyC: Carth: You can turn Kinect if off but your xbox won't function until you turn it back on. It is integrated at the OS level and needs to be connected to play any games or watch tv through xbox. That is what the last report i saw said if oyu have a link saying otherwise I"d love to see it.

See here. It's from Microsoft. Of course if you're like the next guy I'm replying to, it won't make a difference at all if you read that link because he thinks Microsoft is lying about what their system is doing...

BumpInTheNight: Right, because a microsoft press release is the most honest and trustable source of information about the underpinnings of their little box and what it will and won't do if MS was tasked or the box itself was exploited.

Okay... I think I understand. You're convinced that Microsoft is out to get you and this is just part of their nefarious plot. You're probably right... unplug everything, they are watching you.

The link flat out says you can't turn off kinect when the system is on you can only pause it. Sorry Microsoft not good enough. If the game I'm playing, or if I'm watching tv, and i don't want to use kinect i should be able to unplug it completely.

Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.


It has to detect a person or it won't let it function so your solution is bunk.
 
2013-06-15 09:13:03 PM
media4.s-nbcnews.com 

I miss the Salad Days of gaming...when all a boy needed was a set of dragon dice, four 2-quart bottles of Mtn. Dew, and no f*cking homework for the weekend...

 
2013-06-15 09:13:17 PM
One thing I can point out is Microsoft's own numbers.

Back in February they reported that they had sold 76 million 360s. They also reported that there were 46 million Live users. That's 30 million people that either don't have their 360 connected to the Internet or haven't joined Live. That seems like a HUGE amount of your customer base to simply write off.
 
2013-06-15 09:14:50 PM

Elegy: Cheater71: JohnnyC: Cheater71: then you must have no life to spend so much time arguing on fark about something you supposedly don't care about one way or the other.

The dreaded, "you must have no life" strawman. He said he didn't care if you buy one or not. He said he just didn't like people repeating bullshiat and was trying to bring some facts to the conversation. I missed the part where he "shiat on PS4 and every gamer"... maybe you could be more specific?

Sure but I'd have to bring in comments hes made from earlier threads, and I'm not sure weather or not fark is cool with that. The no life comment comes from the fact that hes been doing this in every Xbox/PS4 thread for over a week now. If he doesn't care, why is he so active in these threads?

(Thanks popcorn Johnny for saying that more succinctly than I could have)

Perhaps I argue because I'm a contrarian who enjoys a debating, especially when I hold the minority view?

And I give you my full permission to search through comments I've made in other XB1 threads. If you can find and link to ONE comment where I've "shat on the PS4" or advocated buying the XB1 despite people's problems with it, I'll buy you a month of TF.


Sigh...My apologies man. Sincerely. I just checked three different threads i knew you were in..and found I'd been arguing with Egoy3k. I must have misremembered him as you.  I even did a search for your name on every page of the three threads, and you weren't even in them!

Not only have you not shiat on anything, you haven't even been hanging around as much as i thought. I guess you really don't care one way or the other. Once again my apologies.
 
2013-06-15 09:15:58 PM

quiotu: Gleeman: Kahabut: Alonjar: Kahabut: Meanwhile, I'm over here with my computer, playing every good game in existence, on hardware I CONTROL, with software I OWN, with graphics FAR IN EXCESS of 1080p

Now im curious what resolution you're gaming at.

3 monitors, 1920x1280 each.  EvE shows some crazy resolution numbers I don't have on hand.  Granted, it's mostly horizontal.  But at the same time, no console on earth can even RUN EvE (or for that matter most of the games I play these days)

Ironically, 10 years ago it was one monitor, with over 2500x2500.  See what your 'HD' tv and gaming did to the display industry?  It literally set it back more than 10 years, while making the displays physically smaller, and less detailed.  (I know, it was really an agreement in the industry because the ongoing pixel war was killing the profits of the manufacturers, and also costing a lot for Hollywood to try and keep up with larger and larger display/details,  Hence the massive "it's HD" hype, when in fact HD is light years behind what computers were doing 10 years ago)

Not to mention that most games for PS3 only run in 720P.

/WTF, The Last of Us?

I judge games based on how fun they are when I play them, not how many pixels fit across the screen. But, whatever's important to you, yaknow?


I still have a box of old DOS games I pull out when I get nostalgic, but my point was that not only do console games use a lower resolution technology than PCs, they often don't even use the full capacity of that technology (1080p).

Never said the games were bad games, but they could be better. TLOU looks nice for PS3, but is slightly pixellated because it runs in 720 on my 1080 TV.
 
2013-06-15 09:16:23 PM

the money is in the banana stand: Carth: JohnnyC: Carth: You can turn Kinect if off but your xbox won't function until you turn it back on. It is integrated at the OS level and needs to be connected to play any games or watch tv through xbox. That is what the last report i saw said if oyu have a link saying otherwise I"d love to see it.

See here. It's from Microsoft. Of course if you're like the next guy I'm replying to, it won't make a difference at all if you read that link because he thinks Microsoft is lying about what their system is doing...

BumpInTheNight: Right, because a microsoft press release is the most honest and trustable source of information about the underpinnings of their little box and what it will and won't do if MS was tasked or the box itself was exploited.

Okay... I think I understand. You're convinced that Microsoft is out to get you and this is just part of their nefarious plot. You're probably right... unplug everything, they are watching you.

The link flat out says you can't turn off kinect when the system is on you can only pause it. Sorry Microsoft not good enough. If the game I'm playing, or if I'm watching tv, and i don't want to use kinect i should be able to unplug it completely.

 
Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.
xboxonedaily.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-15 09:21:24 PM

Dougie AXP: Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.

It has to detect a person or it won't let it function so your solution is bunk.


Dougie can you provide a citation, where has it been said that it needs to see someone to function?  I know I've seen people say it does but haven't seen any link to back it up.
 
2013-06-15 09:21:43 PM

Professor Farksworth: And just as an added note about both the Eye Toy and the Kinect. I said this when the first Eye Toy came out for the PS2, and when the Wii came out. Motion gaming is fun...AT FIRST.The problem is after a while it becomes gimmicky and one dimensional. Motion gaming will most likely never reach the abilities of controller gaming. Not saying that motion gaming will have GRAPHIC limitations, but it will always have limitations on what kind of games and what kind of things you can do with it. Certain games will never work well with motion gaming, until we go full holo-shed on things and even that is a stretch.

Now I'm not just running down motion gaming out of hatred, hell I loved Mad World and some of the Wii Sports games, but the fact of the matter is there are certain games that will always be limited and seem gimmicky when done with motion gaming. There are games that can work with the concept, but there are games that would be killed by the concept as well, and trying to shoehorn motion gaming into the middle of controller gaming will only serve to annoy and push away the consumer.


Not that Wii Sports isnt fun occasionally, and i work up a bit of a sweat doing Wii Fit, but i really like the Wii controls for other games. When i first got the console im sitting there on the couch playing Twilight Princess and i realized i was farking relaxed! I was leaned back, i had a controller in each hand, one at my side, one in my lap, i wasnt hunched over clutching a little controller mashing buttons. There were still some buttons, but a lof of it was gesture based, and those gestures could be subtle. You dont have to swing your whole arm to swing your sword, just a little waggle of your wrist. I was halfway convinced that even without motion controls, the PS4 and NextBox controllers would be split for maximum comfort.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-15 09:23:02 PM

BumpInTheNight: Alonjar:  Now im curious what resolution you're gaming at.

Because my smugness of being a master race PC gamer knows no bounds:  5760x1080, yes that's three 1080p monitors and yes games play across all three to create amazing immersion.



Kahabut: Alonjar: Now im curious what resolution you're gaming at.

 

3 monitors, 1920x1280 each.  EvE shows some crazy resolution numbers I don't have on hand.  Granted, it's mostly horizontal.  But at the same time, no console on earth can even RUN EvE (or for that matter most of the games I play these days)

Ironically, 10 years ago it was one monitor, with over 2500x2500.  See what your 'HD' tv and gaming did to the display industry?  It literally set it back more than 10 years, while making the displays physically smaller, and less detailed.  (I know, it was really an agreement in the industry because the ongoing pixel war was killing the profits of the manufacturers, and also costing a lot for Hollywood to try and keep up with larger and larger display/details,  Hence the massive "it's HD" hype, when in fact HD is light years behind what computers were doing 10 years ago)



Thats cool.  I'm PC gaming master race too.  Here's my IPS ultrasharps

imageshack.us

...and Kahabut I fly for the Gallente militia.  Who are you with?
 
2013-06-15 09:26:01 PM

anfrind: Carth: There have been some reports that microsoft is employing reputation management companies to go online and post postive things about xbox one. That is why people are quick to label anyone supporting it a shill

For what it's worth, none of the shills in this thread have an "Account Created" date new enough to be part of a reputation management campaign (the accounts are all at least a year old, some much older).  Unless it's some kind of reputation management sleeper cell...


One of the biggest shills in this thread has an account created date of 2006, but only 15 posts in that time, several of which where done today.  That is beyond odd.
 
2013-06-15 09:27:07 PM

Nefarious: Dougie AXP: Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.

It has to detect a person or it won't let it function so your solution is bunk.

Dougie can you provide a citation, where has it been said that it needs to see someone to function?  I know I've seen people say it does but haven't seen any link to back it up.


I've been searching since you first responded to my post earlier. Well, not the ENTIRE time, but you know what I mean. I'm starting to wonder if that was something I saw here, or if it was from before actual specs and such had been released. I can't find anything on it now, confirming it, refuting it or even reporting on it as rumor.
 
2013-06-15 09:31:15 PM
As much as it pains me to say so...I'm switching to PS4.
 
2013-06-15 09:33:04 PM

Arachnophobe: Nefarious: Dougie AXP: Duct Tape over sensor eye - or - put object in front of it. Seriously the always on thing is a bunch of derp unless your complaint as about wanting to play single player games and your internet connectivity is spotty.

It has to detect a person or it won't let it function so your solution is bunk.

Dougie can you provide a citation, where has it been said that it needs to see someone to function?  I know I've seen people say it does but haven't seen any link to back it up.

I've been searching since you first responded to my post earlier. Well, not the ENTIRE time, but you know what I mean. I'm starting to wonder if that was something I saw here, or if it was from before actual specs and such had been released. I can't find anything on it now, confirming it, refuting it or even reporting on it as rumor.


Yea, I could have sworn it was in the IGN FAQ on the XBone but it's not there anymore and my google fu is weak.

That being said: with all the big hubbabaloo that they're making about the integration of the kinect into the operating system it's not unreasonable to believe that if it can't detect a person it won't move beyond that screen/reminder.
 
2013-06-15 09:35:45 PM

Cyno01: Professor Farksworth: And just as an added note about both the Eye Toy and the Kinect. I said this when the first Eye Toy came out for the PS2, and when the Wii came out. Motion gaming is fun...AT FIRST.The problem is after a while it becomes gimmicky and one dimensional. Motion gaming will most likely never reach the abilities of controller gaming. Not saying that motion gaming will have GRAPHIC limitations, but it will always have limitations on what kind of games and what kind of things you can do with it. Certain games will never work well with motion gaming, until we go full holo-shed on things and even that is a stretch.

Now I'm not just running down motion gaming out of hatred, hell I loved Mad World and some of the Wii Sports games, but the fact of the matter is there are certain games that will always be limited and seem gimmicky when done with motion gaming. There are games that can work with the concept, but there are games that would be killed by the concept as well, and trying to shoehorn motion gaming into the middle of controller gaming will only serve to annoy and push away the consumer.

Not that Wii Sports isnt fun occasionally, and i work up a bit of a sweat doing Wii Fit, but i really like the Wii controls for other games. When i first got the console im sitting there on the couch playing Twilight Princess and i realized i was farking relaxed! I was leaned back, i had a controller in each hand, one at my side, one in my lap, i wasnt hunched over clutching a little controller mashing buttons. There were still some buttons, but a lof of it was gesture based, and those gestures could be subtle. You dont have to swing your whole arm to swing your sword, just a little waggle of your wrist. I was halfway convinced that even without motion controls, the PS4 and NextBox controllers would be split for maximum comfort.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 350x334]


I've always been able to relax while playing with any kind of controller, but I've also been gaming for a long time. But you're right the split controller is a good feature.
 
2013-06-15 09:38:08 PM

Cheater71: Elegy: Cheater71: JohnnyC: Cheater71: then you must have no life to spend so much time arguing on fark about something you supposedly don't care about one way or the other.

The dreaded, "you must have no life" strawman. He said he didn't care if you buy one or not. He said he just didn't like people repeating bullshiat and was trying to bring some facts to the conversation. I missed the part where he "shiat on PS4 and every gamer"... maybe you could be more specific?

Sure but I'd have to bring in comments hes made from earlier threads, and I'm not sure weather or not fark is cool with that. The no life comment comes from the fact that hes been doing this in every Xbox/PS4 thread for over a week now. If he doesn't care, why is he so active in these threads?

(Thanks popcorn Johnny for saying that more succinctly than I could have)

Perhaps I argue because I'm a contrarian who enjoys a debating, especially when I hold the minority view?

And I give you my full permission to search through comments I've made in other XB1 threads. If you can find and link to ONE comment where I've "shat on the PS4" or advocated buying the XB1 despite people's problems with it, I'll buy you a month of TF.

Sigh...My apologies man. Sincerely. I just checked three different threads i knew you were in..and found I'd been arguing with Egoy3k. I must have misremembered him as you.  I even did a search for your name on every page of the three threads, and you weren't even in them!

Not only have you not shiat on anything, you haven't even been hanging around as much as i thought. I guess you really don't care one way or the other. Once again my apologies.


It's all good man, mistakes get made. Apology accepted.

To alleviate your confusion my position is this:

I own both a PS4 and a 360. I've paid for online access to both, and I honestly think the 360 and XBL is better than the PS3 and PSN+. I know the benefits of of PC gaming as well and have used steam, but the drawbacks of building a custom rig for my living room just to play games don't appeal to me - I work with finicky computer software every day at work, and the last thing I want to do when I get home is build and tweak with a gaming rig.

I've had an XBLA account for about 2 years solid and I've seen MS make vast improvements to the XBL service, particularly in lower priced XBLA games. We also pay for Netflix on the 360 and I frequently buy downloadable games through the XBL sales, so it's become our main media machine.

So I've seen the time and effort and money MS has spent to improve the XBL service, above and beyond what Sony has done with PSN. Everything about XBL is, in my opinion, a smoother and more intuitive online experience than anything a competitor has done.

So I'm a happy customer, and that happiness stems from an honest assessment of what each platform offers me relative to my needs. And the XBL service has been head and shoulders above anything else out there for me - otherwise I wouldn't pay for it month in and month out.

So yeah, I don't buy into the whole "this is the death of the Xbox line." I see what MS is trying to do with the XB1, because I've seen what they've done with the 360 and XBL, and those improvements have been hugely successful in my estimation. I've also seen the vast improvements MS has made in integrating the online experience over the original Xbox (or even the 360 at release), and it is worlds ahead of what Sony has been offering, and I see them continuing that trend with the XB1.

Nothing they are doing with the XB1 is that out of the box in terms of shiatting on gamers, and the value that the added online functionality will bring will bring them an increase in profit, even if they lose some console sales because of the single-license game policy.

All of that doesn't mean that the XB1 won't suck - it very well might. It also doesn't mean that you shouldn't buy a PS4 or use Steam - by all means, you use what platform makes sense for you.

What it does mean is the constant Microsoft hate is, in my estimation, stupid and unwarranted, especially from people who have never owned a 360 or had an XBL account that they used to its potential. The business model they are following is one steam pioneered, and the further integration of things like PPV and premium TV on the Xbox can only increase their revenue.
 
2013-06-15 09:41:37 PM

Dougie AXP: That being said: with all the big hubbabaloo that they're making about the integration of the kinect into the operating system it's not unreasonable to believe that if it can't detect a person it won't move beyond that screen/reminder.


Pretty sure that is a rumor considering you can set it for manual login instead of facial recognition login. From what I've read, the only time you HAVE to have the Kinect enabled is when playing a game that requires it. Otherwise you can disable it and if it's really freaking you out, face it toward a wall (or find a less paranoia inducing strain of weed to smoke perhaps). ;)
 
2013-06-15 10:09:13 PM

Alonjar: Thats cool. I'm PC gaming master race too. Here's my IPS ultrasharps

imageshack.us

...and Kahabut I fly for the Gallente militia. Who are you with?


Nice!  Om nom nom nom.  The 24" asus LED I got were pretty cheap and offered the pivot to portrait via stand but I learned a semi-harsh lesson in not checking the vertical view capabilities with them.  I don't use the portrait that often for gaming, really its just Sword of the Stars 1 @ 3240x1920, you can see the whole damn map reasonably well.  For the next monitor set I'm watching for the perfect storm of 27-30" with > 1080p resolution and zero or as close to it bezels, I'll pay a hefty premium for monitors that can achieve that.  Unfortunately I'm not holding my breath.
 
2013-06-15 10:12:31 PM

BumpInTheNight: Satan's Girlfriend: I think it's also worth mentioning that Mountain Dew and Dorito's are currently creating an unprecedented experience surrounding the Microsoft's X-Box One! As an average gamer I thought this was radical, because I love both Mountain Dew and Dorito's. Head on over to http://www.dewanddoritos.com/ for more details. Be sure to tell all your friends to sign up.

Okay okay, now I'm not sure if you're just making fun of shilling at this point :P


No, it just means the Microsoft contract isn't that lucrative. Has to pick up Mountain Dew and Doritos on the side.
 
2013-06-15 10:14:05 PM

Satan's Girlfriend: taxandspend: I for one would love to know about these games from E3 that left you "utterly blown away" because everything I saw barely rose above the "meh" levels. Only two games that really rocked my socks was Bayonetta 2 and Tearaway.

You must have missed the part about television integration in Microsoft's X-Box One. You can now easily watch your Netflix videos on demand with a simple voice command. These are the kinds of innovative features that will make life so much easier. The games are just icing on the cake.


hmm if you're buying XBONE just to watch NetFlix hmm I really have nothing more to say...
 
2013-06-15 10:14:26 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: As much as it pains me to say so...I'm switching to PS4.


Same here. I don't appreciate MS using me a a revenue stream, like some pod in the Matrix.
 
2013-06-15 10:15:02 PM

Alonjar: ...and Kahabut I fly for the Gallente militia.  Who are you with?


Been around here and there.  Currently flying my own corp flag and not really doing much of anything useful.
 
2013-06-15 10:16:43 PM
Another example of innovative technology when it launched:

cdn2.dualshockers.com
 
2013-06-15 10:20:01 PM

quiotu: Elegy: What really gets me rolling on the floor in laughter is all of the MS hate.

When the first Xbox was released, it was going to fail miserably, because it was just low powered computer hardware and because Micro$oft.

When the 360 was released, it was going to fail miserably, because it was underpowered, didn't have a blueray player, and because Micro$soft.

Now that the XB1 is being released, it's going to fail miserably, because Micro$oft.

To turn a saying that is often used in these threads on its head, those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Is 'I'm not buying their console' now the same as 'Microsoft will fail'? What signifies failing? The last console that literally failed was the Dreamcast. Microsoft lost billions on the first Xbox... literally billions. It paled to their OS sales, so they didn't care.
Microsoft doesn't fail often due to their 'throw money at the problem until it's moot' strategy.


I hate to bust your bubble but they DID FAIL!!! in other words let me put it to you this way. If Microsoft ONLY makes money from gaming and their consoles the company would've gone bye bye, chapter 7 long long time ago.

Strictly from a business standpoint XBOX series has always been a failure HOWEVER they have to keep pumping $$ into it to keep it afloat because the gaming world is too lucrative and important to pass up and they have to be a major player (no pun intended) in there no matter what.
 
2013-06-15 10:22:25 PM

BumpInTheNight: Nice!  Om nom nom nom.  The 24" asus LED I got were pretty cheap and offered the pivot to portrait via stand but I learned a semi-harsh lesson in not checking the vertical view capabilities with them.  I don't use the portrait that often for gaming, really its just Sword of the Stars 1 @ 3240x1920, you can see the whole damn map reasonably well.  For the next monitor set I'm watching for the perfect storm of 27-30" with > 1080p resolution and zero or as close to it bezels, I'll pay a hefty premium for monitors that can achieve that.  Unfortunately I'm not holding my breath.


I tell you what, the coolest thing I've done since going to triple screens was to purchase a TrackIR infrared head tracker.  Only certain games support it, but its basically head tracking hardware so if you turn your head right, your view in the game world pans right, etc.  With a single screen its neat... with three, its almost virtual reality territory since you actually turn and look at the right or left screens, not just "faking" it. I use it with iRacing and its flipping awesome.

Someday I'll build a motion cockpit

I've heard really good things about the Oculus Rift as well.. but ill believe it when I see it.
 
2013-06-15 10:25:54 PM

Kahabut: Been around here and there.   Currently flying my own corp flag and not really doing much of anything useful.


Well, you passed the test.  You definitely "play" EVE.  hahahahah!

/EVE... the game you'll love to think about playing!
 
2013-06-15 10:26:03 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Andyr2120: One is a hell of a lot more innovative than the PS3.75

Exactly how?


TV!
 
2013-06-15 10:27:28 PM
Someothermonkey: "Both Sony and Microsoft are heading in the same direction with regards to digital, but one is forcing it while the other is still giving consumers the option of physical media if they wish."

There's nothing wrong with choice. You've got one. So does Microsoft.
Microsoft is choosing to let Sony sell all the physical media.
If you like physical media, Microsoft just made your choice real easy.
 
2013-06-15 10:29:28 PM

Alonjar: Kahabut: Been around here and there.   Currently flying my own corp flag and not really doing much of anything useful.

Well, you passed the test.  You definitely "play" EVE.  hahahahah!

/EVE... the game you'll love to think about playing!


Too true.  I've been around long enough that I've done a bit everything.  I'm kinda on the look out for a 00 corp that's looking for a vet +1.  If you hear anything, ingame I'm Locke DieDrake.

Safe flying

o/
 
2013-06-15 10:31:20 PM

BigLuca: anfrind: Carth: There have been some reports that microsoft is employing reputation management companies to go online and post postive things about xbox one. That is why people are quick to label anyone supporting it a shill

For what it's worth, none of the shills in this thread have an "Account Created" date new enough to be part of a reputation management campaign (the accounts are all at least a year old, some much older).  Unless it's some kind of reputation management sleeper cell...

One of the biggest shills in this thread has an account created date of 2006, but only 15 posts in that time, several of which where done today.  That is beyond odd.


How can you tell how many posts a Farker has made?
 
2013-06-15 10:38:05 PM
if_i_really_have_to: "Which is just miserable for almost everyone. There are basically no uncapped internet connections in NZ."

Some day in the not-so-distant future all-digital is going to finally lay bare some painfully bad infrastructure as an economic liability. Both in various overseas countries and in various places in the US and Canada (wireless in particular, as people increasingly cut their land-line data). And that's going to suck for people in those situations, but there's no holding back technological advance due the limitations of the lowest-common-denominator.
 
2013-06-15 10:40:09 PM

dehehn: cameroncrazy1984: dehehn: It can also tell when you're looking at it so it knows when you are talking to it and not someone else

So...an innovation that already exists on smartphones for a year when it comes out?

Yawn.

Did you even watch the video?  It can also isolate your voice in a full crowded room in real time.  That is very impressive.

It can also detect your heart rate just by detecting color changes in your face.  It can tell the muscle pressures going on in your body based on your stance.  It can detect your mood based on your facial expressions.  All of these technologies together make for a very powerful camera that no one else has anything close to.

Possibly more interesting for medical and spying fields than for gaming, but it not yawn worthy at all.

/PC Gamer so I don't really give a shiat what you buy


The camera freaks me out a little. If they come out with a golf swing analizer then I'd by it. That's all I would need that kind of camera for.
 
2013-06-15 10:41:35 PM

BumpInTheNight: Alonjar: Thats cool. I'm PC gaming master race too. Here's my IPS ultrasharps

imageshack.us

...and Kahabut I fly for the Gallente militia. Who are you with?

Nice!  Om nom nom nom.  The 24" asus LED I got were pretty cheap and offered the pivot to portrait via stand but I learned a semi-harsh lesson in not checking the vertical view capabilities with them.  I don't use the portrait that often for gaming, really its just Sword of the Stars 1 @ 3240x1920, you can see the whole damn map reasonably well.  For the next monitor set I'm watching for the perfect storm of 27-30" with > 1080p resolution and zero or as close to it bezels, I'll pay a hefty premium for monitors that can achieve that.  Unfortunately I'm not holding my breath.


For what it's worth, I saw an ad for a 30" Dell monitor at my local Fry's for $999, although knowing Fry's they probably only had two in stock.  The bezel isn't exactly small, but I don't think it's any bigger than the monitors in Alonjar's photo.
 
2013-06-15 10:45:45 PM

anfrind: BigLuca: anfrind: Carth: There have been some reports that microsoft is employing reputation management companies to go online and post postive things about xbox one. That is why people are quick to label anyone supporting it a shill

For what it's worth, none of the shills in this thread have an "Account Created" date new enough to be part of a reputation management campaign (the accounts are all at least a year old, some much older).  Unless it's some kind of reputation management sleeper cell...

One of the biggest shills in this thread has an account created date of 2006, but only 15 posts in that time, several of which where done today.  That is beyond odd.

How can you tell how many posts a Farker has made?


Nothing scientific, just googling the username + fark, then view omitted results.
 
2013-06-15 10:47:19 PM

i1125.photobucket.com


So much blood......

/Subby.
//My 2nd greenlight in 2 days on this very topic!
///I'll stop when one of you Micro$hills ponies up $5 for one of those Totalfrak thingees.
////Buying a PS4, btw.
 
2013-06-15 10:48:07 PM

Dedmon: I'm probably buying an Xbox One as soon as I can, and this is why.

The Kinect sounds incredibly interesting. I know it's always on, and I honestly don't care. I like the possibilities that the camera/voice interaction can bring. I like the novelty of being able to control my entertainment system with a gesture. It seems fun, intuitive, and would be something I could share with friends.

I also remember Xbox requiring broadband for their service, back when only like 1 in 5 households even had broadband. They were looking for a console that would cater to the new customers that were on the way. Microsoft has the capital to sustain a money losing prospect for long enough to turn a huge profit on it, so I figure most of you folks who are so pissed right now will end up buying one, eventually.

I also like a dozen of 15(?) exclusives. For a gaming system, PS4 doesn't seem to care to give you special exclusive games. If Xbox One was somehow jipping the gamers to offer the extra features, why do they have so much money invested in exclusive, highly desirable games?
A massive cloud to support the gaming system is attractive to me too. Microsoft is pumping a ton of cash into this, they're putting in the work, I think they're likely to continue to improve the system. Xbox One will serve me as a gaming platform just fine.

My main concern, I suppose, is the Red Ring of Death incident. They really farked up that hole deal. I was personally burned on this one issue 3 times, although the fourth one they've sent me works fine, and all in all It didn't cos tme any money other than weeks of waiting for the mail.
I hope they don't repeat this. It's not like Sony, having installed viruses onto my computer not too long ago, is all peaches and cream in my book either.

If Xbox doesn't offer at least  a 1 year warranty on the system, as a default, I will reconsider my choice.


I'll also buy a PS4, when they get some exclusives that I want.

And the crazy thing is, I'm a PC gamer. :)


What does tick me off is the responses from Microsoft. They sure do know how to be dickish in their PR.


lol
 
2013-06-15 10:49:53 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [i1125.photobucket.com image 634x524]
So much blood......

/Subby.
//My 2nd greenlight in 2 days on this very topic!
///I'll stop when one of you Micro$hills ponies up $5 for one of those Totalfrak thingees.
////Buying a PS4, btw.


Fine... now stop it :)
 
2013-06-15 10:50:02 PM

Alonjar: I tell you what, the coolest thing I've done since going to triple screens was to purchase a TrackIR infrared head tracker. Only certain games support it, but its basically head tracking hardware so if you turn your head right, your view in the game world pans right, etc. With a single screen its neat... with three, its almost virtual reality territory since you actually turn and look at the right or left screens, not just "faking" it. I use it with iRacing and its flipping awesome.

Someday I'll build a motion cockpit

I've heard really good things about the Oculus Rift as well.. but ill believe it when I see it.


I've seen a few implementations of the TrackIR and that thing has huge potential.  What would make me head-first dive into that realm would be some attack platform game that sits somewhere between Comache 2 and DCS:  Blackshark in terms of approachability and arcade-ness.  I'm also wondering about the rift as well, the 1080p just doesn't sound like it'd be pleasant to have that close to your eyes, at ~2' away from my eyes right now a 1080p is okay with good enough dot-pitch, a few inches though and that may as well feel like playing on an xbox360.
 
2013-06-15 10:55:30 PM

Nefarious: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [i1125.photobucket.com image 634x524]
So much blood......

/Subby.
//My 2nd greenlight in 2 days on this very topic!
///I'll stop when one of you Micro$hills ponies up $5 for one of those Totalfrak thingees.
////Buying a PS4, btw.

Fine... now stop it :)


OMG! He actually did it!!!

Thank you Sir and/or Madam. Very kindly of you.

/Extortion: ask me how.
 
2013-06-15 10:56:20 PM

Satan's Girlfriend: I think it's also worth mentioning that Mountain Dew and Dorito's are currently creating an unprecedented experience surrounding the Microsoft's X-Box One! As an average gamer I thought this was radical, because I love both Mountain Dew and Dorito's. Head on over to http://www.dewanddoritos.com/ for more details. Be sure to tell all your friends to sign up.


Holy crap, I can't tell if that's serious or Onion quality satire, cause that fits with marketing "brand experience" doublespeak freakishly well.
 
2013-06-15 11:02:10 PM
 
2013-06-15 11:03:47 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Nefarious: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [i1125.photobucket.com image 634x524]
So much blood......

/Subby.
//My 2nd greenlight in 2 days on this very topic!
///I'll stop when one of you Micro$hills ponies up $5 for one of those Totalfrak thingees.
////Buying a PS4, btw.

Fine... now stop it :)

OMG! He actually did it!!!

Thank you Sir and/or Madam. Very kindly of you.

/Extortion: ask me how.


Two threads in two days??? You just trolled about 800+ people AND got comped a TotalFark account out of it. I stand in humbled awe of your Machiavellian intellect.

/Damn.
//Just damn.
 
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