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2013-06-15 02:57:29 PM
4 votes:

hardinparamedic: scottydoesntknow: Another parent explained to their kid that it goes against God's law, so the kid now thinks that the BSA vote to allow gay youth in was actually a vote to go for or against honoring God: "It was between honor and God, and not honoring God. And [not] honoring God got more votes."

What is a God to a nonbeliever?


A crutch.
2013-06-15 02:50:36 PM
3 votes:
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The Boy Scouts demonstrate GOP family values at the Romney rally in Manchester.

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2013-06-15 04:51:44 PM
2 votes:
History is going to look a lot more kindly on the Scouts who marched than on the big wigs who complained about it.
2013-06-15 03:05:18 PM
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Somacandra: TuteTibiImperes: I do believe that they're using the 'no political agenda' thing as smokescreen because of anti-gay bias, but Independence Day parades and honoring fallen veterans aren't inherently political.  Patriotism != political bias.

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Do you not know your American history? Try telling that to Frederick Douglass or any Amerindian leader in the United States.  The only reason you consider it non-political is that its fits within your personal political comfort zone.

So Independence Day is political because in our past various minorities were oppressed/enslaved in the US?  That's taking a pretty big leap IMO.  Part of the Boy Scout Oath is duty to country, which implies some degree of patriotism.

The celebration of Independence Day and the honoring of veterans aren't contentious political issues, and like I mentioned, I'd hesitate to consider the issue of Independence Day to be a political issue at all (in terms of veterans, particularly vehement anti-war activists may feel that serving in the military is not an honorable action, but most of those people would be considered on the fringe today).

What it all comes down to is that neither celebrating Independence Day nor honoring veterans would be interpreted by any rational person as promoting a political agenda.  To be fair, I wouldn't consider marching in a gay pride parade to be promoting a political agenda either.  Basic human rights and equality aren't inherently political.

Sooooo... what about the pic up above that shows them at a GOP Rally?  Care to white knight that one?


Nope, that's clearly a political event, I don't support that at all.
2013-06-15 12:33:24 PM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: scottydoesntknow: Another parent explained to their kid that it goes against God's law, so the kid now thinks that the BSA vote to allow gay youth in was actually a vote to go for or against honoring God: "It was between honor and God, and not honoring God. And [not] honoring God got more votes."

What is a God to a nonbeliever?


Santa Claus?

Although Santa gives you things you can actually use.
2013-06-16 12:50:56 AM
1 votes:
One who accepts the Scout's beliefs at face value would think they would jump to be at the forefront of the acceptance of LBGT community with regard to equal rights etc.  And yeah, the BSA is never supposed to be affiliated with a particular political doctrine etc. but they have been repeatedly throughout time so that argument is bullshiat.

/former scout
//troop leader got arrested for pedophelia
///not gay
////knew lot's of gay scouts who were awesome
////knew lots of non-gay scouts who burned crosses
//seriously?
2013-06-15 10:11:17 PM
1 votes:

letrole: Mock26: The Boy Scouts of America can go to Hades.

This pretty much sums up the sentiment of the thread (and the issue in general)

It would seem that there is a desire to destroy what cannot otherwise be obtained, not unlike a loser who shoots a girl who spurns him with the twisted logic "If I can't have her, then nobody can".


I do not want to see the Scouts destroyed or anything like that.  I just think that their move to allow gay scouts was half-hearted at best, and one that sends a very bad message to scouts, particularly gay scouts.  I think that it is a step in the right direction, but just not a big enough step.  Incidentally, while the ban was in effect I fully supported their right to run their organization the way that they wanted.  I did work to get them to change
2013-06-15 08:20:17 PM
1 votes:
Bit'O'Gristle: watch your parade of jackbooted elitists goose step by... draconian authoritarian

And another True Believer who really needs work on expressing ideas without resorting to duckspeak

George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946
2013-06-15 07:27:33 PM
1 votes:

I Like Shiny Things: Walter Paisley: I Like Shiny Things: hardinparamedic: I Like Shiny Things: Ok, you were obviously trolling and you wanted everyone to know that (u tell funny joke!), but the sad part is that your statement would have been completely true if you replaced your "100%" with " 75%".

Oh God. I'm being countertrolled.

You typed 'countertrolled' when you meant 'corrected'.

Its 4pm on a Saturday. I could go to any bus station or subway and have my dick sucked by a homo and it would probably take about an hour, including round trip drive.

Could a straight person accomplish this? You think I could go to these same places and find some woman (fat, ugly, diseased...I'm not picky) to do the same thing?

I'd really like a serious answer to that.

Yes, but probably not at the bus station or the subway. Try Wal-Mart or the 7-Eleven.

You are talking about prostitution...you obviously have no idea how the gay community works, because you are straight?

That was kind of my entire point, and its also the point that some of these Boy Scout leaders are trying to make.

Since you aren't very bright, I'll keep it simple for you:

I can go to any of the places mentioned above and get my cock sucked for free. Gay sex. Free. always, anywhere, anytime.

Like the someone above mentioned, 'There's an app for that!'.

If I wanted straight sex from a woman, I'd have to put a bit of effort into it, or pay. Not much effort, since I'm pretty studly and I just got back from the gym about 26 minutes ago, but it still takes a bit of work.


So, wait. You can reliably get a free b/j in the street from a guy; but not from a girl. And you're okay with this fact. That random guys will blow you, but not random women. And your assertion is that this means something is wrong with gay men...not with you?

I'm thinking its more that you're giving off a man-whore vibe, and all those homogheys are just astonished to be getting all that action for free.
2013-06-15 07:24:41 PM
1 votes:
God, me and the wife just finished up helping staff Cub Scout day camp(one boy in cubs, one in scouts) and had to bite our lips around all the farking morons biatching about this..

Scouting will survive, it's the people who can't change who wont.
2013-06-15 06:26:10 PM
1 votes:

jcooli09: I was a scout leader for a couple of years.  My son and I dropped out because we had to affirm a faith in a higher power, as I recall.  I'm a little fuzzy on the details now, but I wasn't aboput to let him stand up there and lie with the rest of the scouts who had no idea what they were doing.

I still have the scout masters shirt, though, and I think I'll wear it to the next gay pride parade in my area.


Yep, as someone mentioned upthread, there's room for everyone in the scouts but athiests. When my oldest son was in Cub Scouts, we had very good Den Leaders who consisted of a Jewish man and a Christian woman. They were nice people and accepting of other other religions or no religion at all, as was the case with us. When it came time for the religion badge, they just said to him for him to study the different religions and not worry about pledging to one. He got his badge without doing the oath and we had a very happy Cub Scout existence for quite a few years.
When he graduated to Boy Scouts, the pack he transferred to was rabidly religious in the Southern Baptist vein and he was severely castigated by the adults in the pack for being atheist. They gave him such a hard time and demanded that he profess loyalty to god and complete his religious medals before anything else; he quit the pack because of this after a mere two months. He was 13 at the time and all of this was very upsetting to him. F*ck the Boy Scouts and their religious agenda.
2013-06-15 05:58:09 PM
1 votes:

Pincy: Rembrant_Q_Einstein: I just dropped my daughter off at a birthday party for a girl with two mommies.  I forgot to ask their agenda but I am pretty sure I will be picking up a bull dyke daughter in three hours.

Did you measure the length of her hair before you dropped her off?  It will probably be shorter when you pick her up.


If those gals can get that girl to brush that rat's nest, their agenda is truly superior.
2013-06-15 05:34:47 PM
1 votes:
Attention bigots and homophobes: gay people exist and they aren't going to disappear anytime soon.  GET OVER IT!
2013-06-15 04:46:53 PM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: What are they supposed to pin their new Twink badges to?


The broken dreams of sobbing Baptists.The longstanding tradition of tradition of excluding gay children (since 2006) has ruined the entire Scouting program (in the USA).
2013-06-15 04:19:56 PM
1 votes:
I can't take anyone seriously if they use a patently absurd term like "gay agenda" to make an argument. I just don't have the patience anymore.

Enjoy being laughed at and ridiculed in the history books and by future generations.
2013-06-15 03:56:17 PM
1 votes:
I was a scout leader for a couple of years.  My son and I dropped out because we had to affirm a faith in a higher power, as I recall.  I'm a little fuzzy on the details now, but I wasn't aboput to let him stand up there and lie with the rest of the scouts who had no idea what they were doing.

I still have the scout masters shirt, though, and I think I'll wear it to the next gay pride parade in my area.
2013-06-15 03:53:36 PM
1 votes:

Duke_leto_Atredes: Gay pride parade, where old farts prance about in leather or spandex and demonstrate how sick in the head they are. We need to study them and finally find a cure for these sad sick people


If only we'd study it out, we could convert all those frilly prancing queens into pinnacles of masculinity like the following:
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2013-06-15 03:42:19 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: xanadian: If my son didn't enjoy scouting so much, I'd be VERY tempted to pull him from it...

That's ok, plenty of parents on the other side have already yanked their kids out BECAUSE they had the audacity to allow gay youth to participate. Like this upstanding father:

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He was perfectly content with making his kid cry to try and make a political statement. He didn't even tell his son why they left, only that the BSA wasn't "honoring their own law."

Another parent explained to their kid that it goes against God's law, so the kid now thinks that the BSA vote to allow gay youth in was actually a vote to go for or against honoring God: "It was between honor and God, and not honoring God. And [not] honoring God got more votes."


Good lord. Look at the hatred in that kid's eyes... sad.
2013-06-15 03:34:03 PM
1 votes:

gerbilpox: What exactly is in this "gay agenda" people keep talking about? Something like this?

Post Office √
Grocery shopping √
Pick up laundry at the cleaners √
Make cookies for the Church of Satan bake sale √
Teach Boy Scouts that teh gheys aren't scum
Seduce straight men into a life of sin by proposing marriage


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2013-06-15 03:30:35 PM
1 votes:

bigstoopidbruce: We're not into scouting; it's too time-consuming.  But I have lots of friends who are Baptists, Mormons, and Catholics who are serious about scouting.  They're all leaving.  And I don't blame them.  The BSA have made a serious mistake.  They have gained nothing except more bashing from queers, who will not be happy until they can openly sleep with little boys in the woods.  They haven't added one scout to their ranks, they have compromised with their most basic tenets, and they have alientated millions of members and supporters.  This is 100% fail.

There is no point in responding to my post, I'm not going to check back to see who I have offended.  I don't care what you think.  I'm not a troll, I'm just sick of living in a sick world where it's OK to target little boys.  I leave you all to your fate.


You're not a troll, you're a moran.

Are all straight people paedophiles?
Why are all gays?

/Not gay (nttawwt).
2013-06-15 03:24:47 PM
1 votes:
The really sad thing is that the kids I have worked with since Tigers and going to Eagle Scout don't care. Another generation and this would be a non-issue.
2013-06-15 03:23:23 PM
1 votes:

bigstoopidbruce: We're not into scouting; it's too time-consuming.  But I have lots of friends who are Baptists, Mormons, and Catholics who are serious about scouting.  They're all leaving.  And I don't blame them.  The BSA have made a serious mistake.  They have gained nothing except more bashing from queers, who will not be happy until they can openly sleep with little boys in the woods.  They haven't added one scout to their ranks, they have compromised with their most basic tenets, and they have alientated millions of members and supporters.  This is 100% fail.

There is no point in responding to my post, I'm not going to check back to see who I have offended.  I don't care what you think.  I'm not a troll, I'm just sick of living in a sick world where it's OK to target little boys.  I leave you all to your fate.


9/10.  Should not have mentioned that you're not a troll, thats a giveaway.
PKY
2013-06-15 03:21:56 PM
1 votes:
Kids marching in Hitler Jugend dresses, Kids learning survivalist theories, Strange grown-ups who wants to spend time with kids. Being gay is like only the fifth most offensive thing going on there.
2013-06-15 03:02:11 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Basic human rights and equality aren't inherently political.


Until they are achieved, human rights and equality are inextricably intertwined with politics.
2013-06-15 01:33:59 PM
1 votes:

Somacandra: FTFA:  "It has always been BSA's policy that no person, youth or adult may use Scouting to promote sexual orientation or any other political or social agenda," the letter said. "You and others are welcome to participate in the parade as supportive citizens but not as uniformed members of the BSA."


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WINNETKA, ILLINOIS - JULY 4: A troop of Boy Scouts marches in a Fourth of July Parade on July 4, 2007 with unidentified spectators in the background in WINNETKA, ILLINOIS.
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Cub Scout Pack 34 sponsored by Grace-St. Luke's Episcopal Church has had a very busy summer.  Pack 34 family members started the summer with a service project at the National Cemetery helping to place flags on the graves of our veterans for Memorial Day.

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Burlington's Boy Scout Troop 103 Marches in July 4th Parade, 2011.
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Hypocrites, much?


I do believe that they're using the 'no political agenda' thing as smokescreen because of anti-gay bias, but Independence Day parades and honoring fallen veterans aren't inherently political.  Patriotism != political bias.
2013-06-15 01:25:41 PM
1 votes:
Actually, I'm proud of these people for standing up for WHAT IS RIGHT and keeping the scourge of homosexuality from tainting their children. It is a 100% scientific fact that all gays molest children and are pedophiles, and the bible - which scientists AGREE is the undisputed historical fact - even says that homosexuality is an unnatural abomination. Do you know what those gays do? They stick it where you poop from! No God-fearing, heterosexual Christian of God would ever do that kind of thing with their wife!

Only by voting Republican can we get rid of these godless, satan-worshipping fiends. God Bless America!
2013-06-15 12:52:41 PM
1 votes:
FTFA"It has always been BSA's policy that no person, youth or adult may use Scouting to promote sexual orientation or any other political or social agenda," the letter said. "You and others are welcome to participate in the parade as supportive citizens but not as uniformed members of the BSA."


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WINNETKA, ILLINOIS - JULY 4: A troop of Boy Scouts marches in a Fourth of July Parade on July 4, 2007 with unidentified spectators in the background in WINNETKA, ILLINOIS.
i.imgur.com

Cub Scout Pack 34 sponsored by Grace-St. Luke's Episcopal Church has had a very busy summer.  Pack 34 family members started the summer with a service project at the National Cemetery helping to place flags on the graves of our veterans for Memorial Day.

i.imgur.com

Burlington's Boy Scout Troop 103 Marches in July 4th Parade, 2011.
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Hypocrites, much?
 
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