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(Daily Mail)   Man loses job after telling his Muslim recruiter he'd treat her to a bacon sandwich. Bonus: She's a bombshell   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-06-15 02:37:24 PM  

TV's Vinnie: HASN'T ANY MUSLIM EVER HEARD OF TURKEY BACON YET???!!


That's what I said. Tastes like the real thing, at least to me. Had some for breakfast today.
 
2013-06-15 02:38:30 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Fear_and_Loathing: The question is how was he supposed to know she was Muslim?  Guess he should have offered vegetarian baked beans on toast.  Life lesson learned.  Oh and SOD off!

I think you hit the nail on the head. Both parties got their knickers in a twist, and neither would be the first one to humble themselves with an apology. Since he's the one that wanted the job, he should have started it.

"I am so sorry, I had no idea. I can see how that could have been misconstrued. How can I make this right?"

Pride comes before a fall.


I quoted the wrong person, in case anyone looks at this and doesn't know WTF I'm talking about.

/sod off
 
2013-06-15 02:39:11 PM  
Now I might be wrong, but in that photo is she not surrounded by alcohol, which is also forbidden by Islam?...

/vegetarian
//if someone offered me bacon (again) I am fully capable of appreciating the sentiment and refusing.
 
2013-06-15 02:39:51 PM  
Religion of perpetual offense strikes again.
 
PKY
2013-06-15 02:41:40 PM  
Minorities are humorless and oversensitive.
 
2013-06-15 02:42:55 PM  
She's a coont.

Just say "no, I don't eat bacon, thanks."

Instead cost the guy the job.

fark her.
 
2013-06-15 02:43:03 PM  
So how would he know she was a muslim? They probably never discussed religion as part of his interview.

/how come it tries to correct "muslim" as "Muslim" but does not try to correct "christian" into "Christian"?
 
2013-06-15 02:43:59 PM  

MadSkillz: Altair: It would have been racist to look at her and just assume she was a Muslim.  Dumb coont.

This article has that air of "Fake Daily Mail 'journalism' about it".


It's the Daily Mail. Words like fake are kind of extraneous.
 
2013-06-15 02:44:00 PM  

AcesFull: sammich....Sammich!!!!   dammit.   It's sammich.


In Chicago, it's a sangwich.
 
2013-06-15 02:45:13 PM  
How about when they approached him about the situation he realized that it was gonna be more of the same no matter what he did,so "sod off!"
 
2013-06-15 02:46:04 PM  
Was a simple "No thank you, I'm Muslim" to much for her?
 
2013-06-15 02:46:26 PM  

PKY: Minorities are humorless and oversensitive.


Take is easy there Adolf, this chick is a whiny douche, but don't act like crackers are above getting offended.
 
2013-06-15 02:46:31 PM  

born_yesterday: propasaurus: This being The Daily Mail, I'm sure it happened just like they said.

ThunderPelvis: Ah, swell, it's the daily Daily Fail anti-immigrant race-baiting article. Wouldn't want to miss a single line of THIS stellar journalism.


I bet this never happened and things like it never do. Ever.

/this is a vast right-wing conspiracy.
 
2013-06-15 02:46:36 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: If it really was innocuous, then he should feel sorry for offending her.


I'm sorry, but that's farking BS. People should be allowed to say things. Have we gotten so uptight that one has to analyze every single word that comes out of their mouth in fear that it could offend a million kind of people in a million ways? Fark that. How about grow some thicker skin, starting acting like an adult, and realize you do not have the right to keep your feelings from getting hurt. I'll say what I want. You can say what you want. And we'll both understand they're just words. Farking words. Get the fark over yourselves and stop getting offended that someone randomly mentioned a food your religion finds offensive.

That man was ENTIRELY right to tell them to sod off. They're acting like spoiled 8 year olds on the play ground after being called names. Stop crying about mistaken insults and just brush it off like adults are supposed to.
 
2013-06-15 02:47:37 PM  
It's quite simple. If he knew, or suspected she was Muslim and offered her the sandwich then he's a dick. Who goes straight to a bacon sandwich first? That's not a normal thank you offer. Flowers, chocolate, wine, or some offer of general food "lunch", "dinner", are what people say, no one jumps straight in to a specific foodtype, let alone to bacon when the person happens to be muslim. So I suspect he knew and said it deliberately, hopefully as a joke, because why would he want to wind up the person who got him a job?

However there's the possibility that he didn't know, and was just a genial old man trying to be nice, in which case she should have responded with a "no thanks", and left it there. If that is the case then he doesn't owe her an apology. Taking offence to an innocuous remark, or even a joke is a product of a poor personality. Taking offence to a deliberate slight is a different matter, though still rather pointless.

I am just going to assume both were in the wrong, if any of this story is true.
 
2013-06-15 02:47:54 PM  
The guy made an innocuous remark and a member of a religion not noted for tolerance took offense.  Is no one allowed to even mention bacon in their presence?

I once had to fire a woman who worked for me for something that really was offensive.  She was on the phone with a customer who everyone knew to be a devout Jew.  She was having some sort of problem with him, which in and of itself revealed a problem with her since no one in the company had ever had any difficulty with him as a customer before.  But, when she closed the phone call with. "Eat pork and die!" and then slammed the phone down, there was no choice but to fire her.  When a witness told me about it and I subsequently confronted her, she was pretty pleased with herself.

I suppose if Mr. Hunt had said that to Ms. Sacranie, he would have been summarily beheaded.
 
2013-06-15 02:48:06 PM  
Stupid coont shouldn't be uin a position of hiring if she can't keep her religion out of business. Sounds like she is a real biatch to work for if she is that hyper-sensitive. Sadly the dude has zero recourse because he was to be a contractor, but that woman is not someone I would want to work for.

/fark? Sure. But not work with
 
2013-06-15 02:49:55 PM  

Kyosuke: 'Being offended' is a choice a person makes.

Don't want to be offended? Don't choose to be.


"Reject the sense of injury, and you reject the injury itself."
-- Marcus Aurelius
 
2013-06-15 02:50:09 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: serial_crusher: rumpelstiltskin: It sounds like they gave him a chance to say, "Look, I didn't realize I offended her. Let me apologize", and he took the opportunity to tell them to "sod off". I'm sure the NHS appreciates the fact the staffing firm will look for someone else to fill the position.

I'm glad he took a stand.  "I'm sorry you're offended" is cheapening apologies.  If he's not actually sorry for what he said (and he has no reason to be), he should be telling them to "sod off".

If it really was innocuous, then he should feel sorry for offending her.
I'm not British, I can't claim to know for sure how they insult each other over there, but I bet he said it the same way I might say to a random black person, "I'll bring the watermelon to your picnic." I know damned well that would insult the black person, and if I were to say it, it's because that would be what I wanted to accomplish. No apology would be in order. On the other hand, if I didn't know how insensitive that would be, then I would feel bad about insulting him. It's not his fault he got insulted. It's my fault, and I would accept responsibility.
All that said, you're right, it's good things played out as they did. It's good that everyone involved knows what a prick this guy is, and it's good they don't want anything to do with him. It's a shame this asshole is almost 60 years old and hasn't learned to treat other people with respect yet, and it's sad that he still needs to keep working and he's finding that causes him trouble in his efforts. But that's all beside the point.


And none of it would have happened if the British didn't let the Muslim infestation take place.  What kind of empty liquor bottle is that sitting in front of her?  I think I'll pin her down and fark her.  It isn't rape unless x number of people witness it right?  Yay Muslims!!  The watermelon-bacon analogy is as invalid as your arguments that I don't read.
 
2013-06-15 02:50:29 PM  
I find it offensive that so many people wont eat swine just because their invisible sky wizard doesn't allow it. Yeah it made sense to avoid it thousands of years ago when it was dirty and could make you sick, but technology has made it copacetic. It's less likely to make you sick than chicken and ground beef at this point.
 
2013-06-15 02:50:33 PM  

Mugato: TV's Vinnie: HASN'T ANY MUSLIM EVER HEARD OF TURKEY BACON YET???!!

That's what I said. Tastes like the real thing, at least to me. Had some for breakfast today.


BLASPHEMY!
 
2013-06-15 02:50:35 PM  
I would stick it so far into her Koran.

But yeah, that was a biatchy thing to do.
 
2013-06-15 02:50:39 PM  
How is it even supposed to be common knowledge that Muslims (assuming she had a badge that said "Hi, I'm Muslim!) don't eat pork? The guy's a 58 year old computer nerd. Maybe that never occurred to him.
 
2013-06-15 02:51:05 PM  
I guess if she was the first woman I saw after doing 15 years in the Kingston Penitentiary, I'd think she was a bombshell.
 
2013-06-15 02:52:23 PM  

TheJoe03: I find it offensive that so many people wont eat swine just because their invisible sky wizard doesn't allow it. Yeah it made sense to avoid it thousands of years ago when it was dirty and could make you sick, but technology has made it copacetic. It's less likely to make you sick than chicken and ground beef at this point.


If Muslims would only taste the wonder that is Bacon, they wouldn't be so willing to blow things up.

/now THAT'S the kind of thing someone should take offense at!
 
2013-06-15 02:52:52 PM  

Whatthefark: Was a simple "No thank you, I'm Muslim" to much for her?


I don't see how that would have ruined the infidel's life.
 
2013-06-15 02:52:53 PM  

Mugato: Why would she think the guy was going to intentionally insult her after landing a job?

/is 1,000....whatevers/week a lot?


£ is 'pounds', right? If so, it's about $1500 a week. Which ain't too shabby.
 
2013-06-15 02:53:20 PM  
rumpelstiltskin: [if I said]  "I'll bring the watermelon to your picnic." I know damned well that would insult the black person, and if I were to say it, it's because that would be what I wanted to accomplish. No apology would be in order. On the other hand, if I didn't know how insensitive that would be, then I would feel bad about insulting him. It's not his fault he got insulted. It's my fault, and I would accept responsibility.

So, you'd tell the guy to sod off if he was angry that you had intentionally slurred him, but if you innocently offended him, you'd wring your hands and grovel.

Okey dokey then.
 
2013-06-15 02:53:20 PM  
If it was so offensive, how is it you're uncovered biatch? Your family must be frothing at seeing you parade yourself around like a common harlot.
 
2013-06-15 02:53:27 PM  

Hoopy Frood: AcesFull: sammich....Sammich!!!!   dammit.   It's sammich.

In Chicago, it's a sangwich.



  and New Yawk...GoodFellows....Alright Vinnie,that's it..you're getting fat...Starting tomorrow,its gonna be sangwiches..
 
2013-06-15 02:53:59 PM  

Slaxl: If he knew, or suspected she was Muslim and offered her the sandwich then he's a dick. Who goes straight to a bacon sandwich first?


Yeah, it did seem odd that he offered her that off the bat, based on how she looks and her name it is at least obvious that she is Middle Eastern/South Asian, so a little tact would have avoided this whole thing. Then again, bacon shouldn't be so offensive. Not really a fan of anyone involved, tbh.
 
2013-06-15 02:55:33 PM  
Not america who cares. ...needs eruo tag
 
2013-06-15 02:56:21 PM  
Enough with the UK links.
 
2013-06-15 02:56:28 PM  
English people talk funny
 
2013-06-15 02:57:21 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: The question is how was he supposed to know she was Muslim?  Guess he should have offered vegetarian baked beans on toast.  Life lesson learned.  Oh and SOD off!


I guess he should have just stereotyped her. Except for when she doesn't want to be stereotyped.

fark that biatch. She might be hot but she's still a biatch.
 
2013-06-15 02:57:25 PM  
a) it's funny that people are actually taking a Daily Mail article at face value (I mean c'mon guys, really?)

b) if youever accidentally offend someone at work for some stupid reason, please tell your supervisor to "fark off" instead of saying "oh hey no that's not what I meant at all, I'm very sorry there was truly no offense intended". I'm sure that will go over so well for your and your internet rage.
 
PKY
2013-06-15 02:57:41 PM  
So this pork is bad-thing comes from the days when many people died from poor hygiene etc so the leaders told the people God didn't want them to eat it? So why is this delusion still present today among educated people supposedly knowing better? It's almost as stupid as present day foreskin circumcision.
 
2013-06-15 02:57:47 PM  
Probably an attempt to cover up an age discrimination case. This was probably the first time they'd seen him face to face.
 
2013-06-15 02:58:08 PM  

armoredbulldozer: And none of it would have happened if the British didn't let the Muslim infestation take place.  What kind of empty liquor bottle is that sitting in front of her?  I think I'll pin her down and fark her.  It isn't rape unless x number of people witness it right?  Yay Muslims!!  The watermelon-bacon analogy is as invalid as your arguments that I don't read.


Yeah, this is going really well.
 
2013-06-15 02:58:12 PM  

Mugato: TV's Vinnie: HASN'T ANY MUSLIM EVER HEARD OF TURKEY BACON YET???!!

That's what I said. Tastes like the real thing, at least to me. Had some for breakfast today.


Does it?

I bought some from Costco, felt guilty about it nevertheless, yeah fark me, I was embarrassed to buy turkey bacon, fried it up, and sort of thought, meh, this can't be the taste of what drives the planet insane.... Went back to frying up the Costco Hebrew National Salami into my scrambled eggs (also from Costco).
 
2013-06-15 03:00:43 PM  

IgG4: I'd offer her my salami...


I would pork the Hell out of that woman.
 
2013-06-15 03:01:20 PM  

ThunderPelvis: Ah, swell, it's the daily Daily Fail anti-immigrant race-baiting article. Wouldn't want to miss a single line of THIS stellar journalism.


I read it. You can skip it. Don't worry, there's nothing of importance in the article.
 
2013-06-15 03:02:08 PM  

jethro1138: Now I might be wrong, but in that photo is she not surrounded by alcohol, which is also forbidden by Islam?...
And she was talking to a non-related male. FOR SHAME!


If she's gonna be a puckerbutt muslim, then she has to obey the whole package.
 
2013-06-15 03:03:19 PM  

bmihura: Enough with the UK links.


Apparently, the Daily Mail pays Drew a sh*ton of euros to keep the links flowing.

THE SPICE LINKS MUST FLOW!
 
2013-06-15 03:04:22 PM  
O.K. calling someone a raghead is racists and so is offering to bring bacon sarnies into work as a breakfast pot luck.  I can see how they are on the same level.
 
2013-06-15 03:04:24 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Somacandra: Fear_and_Loathing: The question is how was he supposed to know she was Muslim?

Maybe he shouldn't have assumed she wasn't? Making assumptions about people's dietary/religious habits when you don't know them is rude. When I ask people over for dinner or go out with colleagues, the first question you ask is whether there are any places or foods to avoid for allergic or cultural or religious reasons. Its bloody well common courtesy. If he wanted to tell them to sod off rather than admit he was rude then that's his choice. Quit whining that you lost your contract because of your own rudeness. Grow up and act like an adult.

Well, we've reached the point that innocently offering to bring bacon sandwiches is now considered "rude".

Obviously, it's time that we all started living in bubbles and never interacting with other people ever again.

/she could have not been a douche and said "I'm muslim, I don't eat pork.", which probably would have led him to say "Oh, sorry, my bad.", and the problem would have been solved. But, no, being an oversensitive douchette was her choice instead.


Where the hell did you learn to punctuate your sentences? Do you just shotgun stuff out there and hope it sticks?
 
2013-06-15 03:05:11 PM  

propasaurus: This being The Daily Mail, I'm sure it happened just like they said.


I wouldn't believe these pricks if they said water was wet.
 
2013-06-15 03:05:17 PM  
Part of the allure of the Cult of Bacon is that the the followers of The Prophet (peace be upon him) can't eat it. (Nyah nyah.)

But yeah, if he was offering to buy her lunch and shot out "bacon" as something he thought she might like, well... yeah. She might be being oversensitive, but if you meant no offense, then you lose nothing and gain everything by apologizing.
 
2013-06-15 03:05:25 PM  

bearded clamorer: Nice beak.


This.

/My religion permits me to eat poultry.
 
2013-06-15 03:05:33 PM  
Article claims that it was a racist comment... I disagree. Bigoted, yes... Racist, no.

"Muslim" is not a race... it's a religious belief system.
 
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