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(The Daily Caller)   Remember the heartwarming story of the CT barber who gives free haircuts to the homeless? Well, CT health officials decided that good deed had gone unpunished for far too long   (dailycaller.com) divider line 64
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2013-06-15 04:56:59 PM  

hardinparamedic: Ladies and gentlemen, the token libertarian.


So what is the public safety purpose of the license? It certainly servers as a barrier to entry, and as a source of revenue for the state and whoever does the licensing, but I'm not sure I see the benefit to the public.

There's probably room for a few rules about sanitation. But we have sanitation rules for food that require, at most, a handful of training hours and a $10 test. And many jurisdictions don't license food workers at all. In comparison the CT license he'd need requires 1,500 hours of training -- that's 9 months of full-time work. It's clearly designed to discourage new entrants and make them beholden to existing practitioners, just like most guild/license/consortium/cartel systems have been throughout history.
 
2013-06-15 05:08:31 PM  
Stupidly enough, Barbers, Stylists, Manicurists, etc have to be licensed because you are removing part of the body.
 
2013-06-15 07:03:53 PM  
"Twenty-five years I've been giving haircuts, and no one died on me," he said.

It's about infection, not death. Basic sanitation for barbers can be learned in a few minutes of instruction.

Licensing for barbers is mostly about restricting entry into the profession, not about public safety.

There are people offering to help him with licensing; he should accept their help.

In the meantime, the local barbers guild or association should begin offering this service as a work of charity.

Also, I'm certain that some barbers will have a need to do some community service work.
 
2013-06-15 07:21:32 PM  

BitwiseShift: I'm sure licensed barbers have some cursory health training, as they were once ranked with surgeons and the root and bark lady.

There's a need for hair cutters to check for lice, scurvy, leprosy, genital warts, skin infections, rabies, caligula among the very poor and unwashed. Probably some truth to that.


I don't know about you, but I don't want my Barber checking out my junk.
 
2013-06-15 07:24:59 PM  
DNRTFA
DNRTFT

The article will be a typical human-interest fluff piece full of folksy expressions and clumsy prose that glosses over sanitation of instruments and disposal of biological waste.

The thread will be a cavalcade of touchey-feeley knee-jerkery that condemns fuddy-duddy public health officials for enforcing spiteful public health regulations that are especially hard on women, children, and the poor.
 
2013-06-15 07:27:21 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: The biggest misnomer in our language is "civil servant".
They are the people who dream up the rules, and get hurt as hell when we don't follow them. More like "uncivil MASTERS".


on the upside... Congress is properly named.... it is the opposite of Progress.
 
2013-06-15 07:31:56 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Guns will matter until the ammo runs out.  And then they'll start mattering again when someone finds ready sources of sulfur and saltpeter, charcoal being rather easy to come by.


www.startrek.com
 
2013-06-15 08:22:48 PM  
So, "the city will help Cymerys obtain a state barber's license if he likes" means they're bullying him. Gotcha.
 
2013-06-15 08:28:46 PM  
The story sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, you need a license to be a barber in Connecticut. Some people in the neighborhood complained, so law enforcement had to respond. Then the Mayor stepped in and put enforcement on-hold to give the guy time to get licensed, if he wishes.

This is the way the system's supposed to work, fellow citizens. The police's job is to respond to complaints and to enforce the laws as-written. Judges and elected officials are supposed to use judgement to set priorities and make exceptions when literal interpretations of the law cause unfair problems.

But here's the catch: That barber license requires 1,500 hours of study in a board-accredited barber college, with no provision at all for self-study. Other than that, the applicant only needs an 8th-grade education, pass the written test, and pay a $100 fee. Those are fine, but the college time requirement seems ridiculous, and makes the Mayor's gesture rather empty.

I wonder how much money the hair stylists and barber college lobby spent bribing the state legislature into that requirement?
 
2013-06-15 08:35:22 PM  
Followup to above: I was curious about whether this was a "liberal nanny state" thing, or more universal, so I checked half a dozen random states, plus Texas and Alaska. They're all the same, requiring 1,250 to 1,600 hours in a state-accredited barber college.
 
2013-06-15 08:41:26 PM  

Beowoolfie: The story sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, you need a license to be a barber in Connecticut. Some people in the neighborhood complained, so law enforcement had to respond. Then the Mayor stepped in and put enforcement on-hold to give the guy time to get licensed, if he wishes.

This is the way the system's supposed to work, fellow citizens. The police's job is to respond to complaints and to enforce the laws as-written. Judges and elected officials are supposed to use judgement to set priorities and make exceptions when literal interpretations of the law cause unfair problems.

But here's the catch: That barber license requires 1,500 hours of study in a board-accredited barber college, with no provision at all for self-study. Other than that, the applicant only needs an 8th-grade education, pass the written test, and pay a $100 fee. Those are fine, but the college time requirement seems ridiculous, and makes the Mayor's gesture rather empty.

I wonder how much money the hair stylists and barber college lobby spent bribing the state legislature into that requirement?


However the license is to be a professional barber, meaning a paid barber.  He is just an amateur barber helping a few friends.  If you really want to go after this guy, you'll have to start going after all those evil families that cut relatives' hair.  Start making all barber equipment accessible only by showing your barber license.  Right now I can go buy everything to set up a barbershop from one stop, even the chair.  Unless they could prove that I charge anyone for a haircut they can't tell me I cannot cut my sons' hair.  The mayor is just being sensible, because if this guy got a lawyer, he would win.

/I cut my sons' hair, I am only needing the chair
//I even have the cape
 
2013-06-15 08:52:03 PM  
lack of warmth However the license is to be a professional barber, meaning a paid barber. He is just an amateur barber helping a few friends.

He is cutting hair for the public. These are not his friends. He does not cut hair in his own house or garden. He cuts hair for the public in a city park. His decision to work for free does not make him an amateur. It just makes him a bad businessman.

HE.. IS.. CUTTING.. HAIR.. FOR.. STRANGERS.. IN.. A.. PUBLIC.. PLACE..
 
2013-06-15 09:27:07 PM  
Well, TFA and TFT played out roughly the way I predicted. For the really dense, I'll sum up the reason for licensing requiring 1500 hours.

Cutting hair is like washing cars. Any moron can do the basic job. But detailing a car and doing a good job takes experience. It takes patience. It takes skill. Unless you try to wash a car with a rock, you really won't fark it up.

Cars are inanimate objects, but people are people. So in the interest of public health, personal safety, and not having to wait weeks for a butcher cut by a fly-by-night shyster to grow out and get fixed by a real barber, there is licensing with required experience.

If you fark up a wino's buzz-cut, who would notice or care? Nobody really, but who notices when communicable diseases get spread because an unqualified barber decides to ignore the normal process to enter the trade?

Anyone who has some sort of aw-gosh good faith in the skills of an unlicensed barber, based on a poorly written article, is simply a moronic jackass, and probably has bowl cut anyway.
 
2013-06-16 07:42:02 AM  

letrole: lack of warmth However the license is to be a professional barber, meaning a paid barber. He is just an amateur barber helping a few friends.

He is cutting hair for the public. These are not his friends. He does not cut hair in his own house or garden. He cuts hair for the public in a city park. His decision to work for free does not make him an amateur. It just makes him a bad businessman.

HE.. IS.. CUTTING.. HAIR.. FOR.. STRANGERS.. IN.. A.. PUBLIC.. PLACE..


you forgot "FOR HUGS!!! OMGWTFBBQ! THE HORROR"

-3.2/potato
 
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