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(Motorsport)   Why NASCAR over IndyCar in Texas? Let me count the ways   (motorsport.com) divider line 40
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2013-06-15 10:36:43 AM  
Cause them there little plastic cars ain't got a hood big enough for a sponsor logo!
 
2013-06-15 11:21:12 AM  
Could it possibly have something to do with the likelihood NASCAR is just coming off its peak, and Indycar is just starting to haul itself up after hitting rock bottom?

Assuming Indycar manages to not shoot itself in the foot *too* many times over the next decade, and NASCAR continues on its current path of driving away old fans, I expect the attendance and ratings gaps* to close somewhat. Particularly the former.

*At tracks not named Indianapolis
 
2013-06-15 11:24:44 AM  
it all pales to F1.
 
2013-06-15 11:32:12 AM  
At Texas specifically? Not enough rear wing made for crappy racing last week. It was the only bad race of the season. While NASCAR is still riding a waning wave of popularity.
 
2013-06-15 11:40:19 AM  

FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.


If you like parades, of course.
 
2013-06-15 12:48:21 PM  

Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.


monaco, which is, i admit, usually a parade, was rather exciting this year, actually.
 
2013-06-15 01:06:54 PM  

Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.


With the exception of Vettel running away early, Montreal last week was pretty exciting, particularly 2-6.
Compare that to last week's Cup at Pocono which was probably THE most boring "race" I've witnessed in recent memory.
 
2013-06-15 01:07:28 PM  

FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.


No, it all pales to WEC.
 
2013-06-15 01:20:34 PM  
WRC baby.
 
2013-06-15 01:28:25 PM  

The Bestest: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

With the exception of Vettel running away early, Montreal last week was pretty exciting, particularly 2-6.
Compare that to last week's Cup at Pocono which was probably THE most boring "race" I've witnessed in recent memory.


Not really. It's tough to make the case of "other than the lead never being in danger at all, ever, in any way/shape/form, that was a great race."

I love F1 at Australia and sometimes Canada, and was super excited to get comp'd some tix to next year's NY race (if it actually happens) this morning, but having the lead be in at least a tiny bit of question is sort of the baseline for excitement to most American motorsports fans.
 
2013-06-15 01:28:35 PM  
For some reason I thought this was going to be a tube top & daisy dukes versus spandex thread.
 
2013-06-15 01:31:41 PM  
As much as I desperately want to care which kind of racing most appeals to errybody else so I can flock to the bestest most popularest one and sneer at the others, I just cant. I just cant force myself to like one and only one kind of racing or one and only one set of drivers the way the author of that article wants me to. The way a bunch of you upthread do

I guess y'all are used to (or maybe trained in) divisive politics where you choose one party and then are obligated to like and defend that party and most errybody in it for the duration. And also obligated and trained to bad mouth all the rest and call names at folks who like a different party. For fun or something


Well thats great if you like that sort of thing but it wears on a body after awhile. Easier just to like what you like rather than be instructed to when to like this and dad mouth that. It eliminates the middle man and feels more honest once you get the hang of it.
 
2013-06-15 01:35:20 PM  
A mile and a half under 20 seconds? 270 miles per hour sustained? I think not.
 
2013-06-15 01:41:11 PM  

FlashHarry: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

monaco, which is, i admit, usually a parade, was rather exciting this year, actually.


ive got some extra commas if ya need em.
 
2013-06-15 01:56:00 PM  

craigzy: FlashHarry: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

monaco, which is, i admit, usually a parade, was rather exciting this year, actually.

ive got some extra commas if ya need em.


yes, that was rather a choppy sentence, wasn't it? though the commas were correctly placed, i believe.
 
2013-06-15 01:59:27 PM  

FlashHarry: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

monaco, which is, i admit, usually a parade, was rather exciting this year, actually.


COMMAS MAKE HULK BRAIN HURT!
 
2013-06-15 02:01:18 PM  

Kyosuke: If you like parades, of course.


There hasn't been a parade in quite some time. It's not longer two or three good teams and everyone else far behind for one also the cars are such that while one or two cars can run away with it, there's still a lot of action among the field.

The Bestest: Compare that to last week's Cup at Pocono which was probably THE most boring "race" I've witnessed in recent memory.


As for how boring it was, almost everyone baled on the Fark thread for it and went to the Canadian GP thread instead.
 
2013-06-15 02:03:43 PM  

the biggest redneck here: but having the lead be in at least a tiny bit of question is sort of the baseline for excitement to most American motorsports fans.


Of late someone running away with a race has been a lot less common than it used to be.

varmitydog: For some reason I thought this was going to be a tube top & daisy dukes versus spandex thread.


I wish to now to state my support for such a thread.
 
2013-06-15 02:22:32 PM  

WhyteRaven74: As for how boring it was, almost everyone baled on the Fark thread for it and went to the Canadian GP thread instead


Which was, in and of itself, one of the more exciting races of the year. I love that track. But then some people only watch racing to find out who wins, not for the corner-by-corner battles.
 
2013-06-15 02:53:26 PM  
The wife and I were at the IZOD race in Texas. We quite enjoyed it. Even got to go to the garage after the race, and watch the post-race inspections.  Kinda cool.
 
2013-06-15 02:53:44 PM  
Nothing better than watching F1 on a wet track.
 
2013-06-15 03:01:00 PM  

The Bestest: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

With the exception of Vettel running away early, Montreal last week was pretty exciting, particularly 2-6.
Compare that to last week's Cup at Pocono which was probably THE most boring "race" I've witnessed in recent memory.


Yes, because everyone loves to watch the cars who don't win. "Oooo the winner ran away but behind him it was awesome!"? Ummm, no. That is no way to get me to watch F1.

/Pocono did indeed suck ass, and I am surprised JJ wasn't found with a violation of some sort
 
2013-06-15 03:04:42 PM  

my lip balm addiction: surprised JJ wasn't found with a violation of some sort


I expected that as well. But, someone on here (can't remember his name, he's a 48 fan) said that the Pocono win was an apology from NASCAR for the black flag the previous week.

You know, the NASCAR is wrestling theory.
 
2013-06-15 03:08:53 PM  

my lip balm addiction: Yes, because everyone loves to watch the cars who don't win. "Oooo the winner ran away but behind him it was awesome!"? Ummm, no. That is no way to get me to watch F1.


I'm sorry that you think a race is only between positions 1 and 2. Do you only ever watch the top 2 teams in baseball?
 
2013-06-15 03:21:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: my lip balm addiction: Yes, because everyone loves to watch the cars who don't win. "Oooo the winner ran away but behind him it was awesome!"? Ummm, no. That is no way to get me to watch F1.

I'm sorry that you think a race is only between positions 1 and 2. Do you only ever watch the top 2 teams in baseball?


www.navigatingventure.com
 
2013-06-15 03:23:30 PM  
Because that there open wheel racin' series, if you kick dem tiares fer too long dem cars break... we like dem fenders

/stfu trollmitter
 
2013-06-15 03:30:21 PM  
I don't know but it probably has something to do with the level of inbredness.
 
2013-06-15 03:51:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: my lip balm addiction: Yes, because everyone loves to watch the cars who don't win. "Oooo the winner ran away but behind him it was awesome!"? Ummm, no. That is no way to get me to watch F1.

I'm sorry that you think a race is only between positions 1 and 2. Do you only ever watch the top 2 teams in baseball?


I have sh*t to do in life, even on Sundays (my only day off). If a motorsport wants my time, there needs to be *some* question of who's going to win.
 
2013-06-15 03:58:22 PM  

the biggest redneck here: cameroncrazy1984: my lip balm addiction: Yes, because everyone loves to watch the cars who don't win. "Oooo the winner ran away but behind him it was awesome!"? Ummm, no. That is no way to get me to watch F1.

I'm sorry that you think a race is only between positions 1 and 2. Do you only ever watch the top 2 teams in baseball?

I have sh*t to do in life, even on Sundays (my only day off). If a motorsport wants my time, there needs to be *some* question of who's going to win.


Why watch racing in the first place? You might as well just look at the results on Monday in the paper.
 
2013-06-15 04:07:36 PM  
You really need that spelled out?

Because I like racing. Especially for the lead in a major race. The bigger the race, the bigger the event, the bigger the names at the front... the more I'm interested. But there's that whole thing about there only being 24 hours in each day, so I ain't watching Force India block the sh*t out of Sauber for 9 laps in the hopes of hanging on to 6th place at Bahrain.
 
2013-06-15 04:10:36 PM  
Nationwide guys are racing pretty hard at Michigan these last 20 laps.
 
2013-06-15 04:41:50 PM  

the biggest redneck here: Because I like racing


Apparently not, if you only care about the top 2 spots.
 
2013-06-15 05:13:26 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: the biggest redneck here: Because I like racing

Apparently not, if you only care about the top 2 spots.


Make there be 40 hours in a day, or take some of my responsibilities off my hands, and I'll be happy to sit down and drink a beer to watch Massa and Maldonado fight for 8th or McMurray and Bayne try to use strategy to lead a lap for a bonus point. But until then, I ain't got time for that sh*t.

You associate yourself with Duke, and yet don't understand something so simple? Yikes.
 
2013-06-15 06:13:17 PM  
Bones and Lefty sound like they're shopping for window treatments: 'Do you like that?' 'I DO like that, yeah.'
 
2013-06-15 07:00:14 PM  
Like I said a few weeks ago, the IRL/Cart split back in the 90s really came close to killing open wheel in America. They reunified a few years back, and are just finally starting to regain the footing they lost so many years ago.
The split coming on top of NASCAR's rise really couldn't have been timed better had they tried. But now, NASCAR has fallen on rough times. The birth of The Chase, and the entire Chase Era, has led to some really boring racing, and Jimmie Johnson winning 5 championships. The Gen6 car has been proving to be a technical wonder that is producing the same kind of overpriced parades that F1 had been giving us for so many years.  Meanwhile, Indy has been producing some very exciting races and regaining the love of the fans.
 
2013-06-15 07:32:44 PM  

Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.


Better a "parade" than seeing cars go around in a circle 500 times.
 
2013-06-15 08:32:08 PM  
I'll take "begging the question" for 500, alex.
 
2013-06-15 10:04:05 PM  
theres that and indycar keeps threatening to take their show to austin.

its just not a draw even once a year. though the twin 275s was a good idea just needed some refining.
 
2013-06-16 09:08:23 AM  

Rwa2play: Kyosuke: FlashHarry: it all pales to F1.

If you like parades, of course.

Better a "parade" than seeing cars go around in a circle 500 times.


gawd, THIS.
 
2013-06-17 12:26:50 AM  

Outlaw2097: indycar keeps threatening to take their show to austin.


i942.photobucket.com
 
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