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2013-06-15 08:39:51 AM
I don't use it for email but do use it as a sign-in for various media. If that goes away I won't use it at all.

Kind of a nostalgic feeling thinking about Yahoo. Seems like something form the AOL days.
 
2013-06-15 08:53:50 AM
A lot of Farkers just discovered an excuse for why they sent someone a bunch of dick pics.

"I hadn't logged into my Yahoo account in a long time and someone else got it!  Honest!"
 
2013-06-15 11:00:38 AM
I wonder if this is an intended 'unintended consequence'. Now, everyone who had a yahoo email in all of history and and everyone whose name has a frog's chance in lava of being considered 'famous' is doing to have to register their old names, as well as all the cybersquatters registering every variation of johnDoe etc. ever heard of. Now yahoo can go to the pressw and say, 'wow, we now have 100 million active yahoo users', nevermind the users are BillGates1 BillGates2 BillGates3, from people hoping to blackmail Bill Gates, or whomever they try to sell names to. It's the same as AOL's old trick of saying they have 60 million users under the assumption that every single AOL disk was installed in a new computer and registered a unique user when, in fact, most of them were thrown away.

As an extra bonus, this is maybe the 5th article I've heard about this, as every tech site warns its own users to log in to their old yahoo addresses again to avoid losing them, so yahoo is getting plenty of free publicity in the warning people of a problem that they caused int he first place.

Brilliant! {guiness.jpg}
 
2013-06-15 11:04:01 AM

edmo: I don't use it for email but do use it as a sign-in for various media. If that goes away I won't use it at all.

Kind of a nostalgic feeling thinking about Yahoo. Seems like something form the AOL days.


I use it as it has been my address since 1998. Lots of people have it. I have been pretty annoyed with them over the last few months, though.

And yes, that is so true.
 
2013-06-15 11:45:34 AM
I got one of those yahoo emails yesterday sent to my gmail account, which was used as a secondary address. But I don't know what Yahoo email address the email is referring to, as it doesn't say and I have used several over the years. Don't remember the passwords since I haven't used them in years.....or decades.
 
2013-06-15 11:54:47 AM

Walker: I got one of those yahoo emails yesterday sent to my gmail account, which was used as a secondary address. But I don't know what Yahoo email address the email is referring to, as it doesn't say and I have used several over the years. Don't remember the passwords since I haven't used them in years.....or decades.


Same here. I probably have 5 or 6 yahoo accounts but don't remember the names or passwords.
 
2013-06-15 12:13:08 PM
I have Windows 8 on my laptop, which has a handy stand-alone mail app. Since first seeing this issue pop up on the web a week or so ago, I have added all those old semi-dormant addresses to the app, which it checks every time I start my laptop. Presto...no dead email accounts!
 
2013-06-15 12:52:52 PM
"Forgot your password" on any site with a super old email address attached to it?

This is just ripe for hacking people's accounts everywhere.
 
2013-06-15 12:53:33 PM
Oh damn it, why'd I say hacking. I meant to say hijacking. Grumble grumble.
 
2013-06-15 12:56:15 PM

Stone Meadow: I have Windows 8 on my laptop, which has a handy stand-alone mail app. Since first seeing this issue pop up on the web a week or so ago, I have added all those old semi-dormant addresses to the app, which it checks every time I start my laptop. Presto...no dead email accounts!




The NSA thanks you for your public service announcement.
 
2013-06-15 01:07:17 PM
I still use Yahoo. It's one of the more comfortable options for those of us who need to write in right-to-left languages. But a few years ago they announced that they would be offering two new e-mail options: ymail and rocketmail. I thought that @yahoo.com sounded a little childish so I jumped at the chance to grab a ymail address. Turns out I was wrong about it becoming a thing - to date I've never met anyone who uses ymail.com and most people have never heard of it, prompting me to add "ymail, NOT gmail" to my CV.
 
2013-06-15 01:13:45 PM
What's the difference between that and every new email/social media platform that's come along?

Is somebody worried about Pinterest squatting?
 
2013-06-15 01:25:45 PM
How WON'T this be used to fraudulently masquerade as another person?
 
2013-06-15 02:03:51 PM
I had to look up my old Yahoo! login when I got the e-mail from them. So, wondering what the hell I ever had a Yahoo! account for, I logged in only to be told that my e-mail couldn't be restored.

So, I left.

I guess, maybe, in another ten years or so they'll send me another "inactive account" e-mail.
 
2013-06-15 02:05:02 PM
Interestingly enough, I've been wondering what will eventually happen a few decades from now.  Maybe we won't use e-mail at all, but by then people are going to have to become very imaginative.   It's already sometimes frustrating to come up with a unique ID.  Even just adding something like your birth year isn't a good solution if you want to be bsmith and if I were bsmith I might not want to be bsmith1973  as people would probably assume that was the year I was born.  In fact, I'd be a little surprised if there isn't already a bsmith1973..

If we don't recycle or come up with a new idea in a few decades things will be unmanageable, but as many are pointing out, recycling will lead to a lot of problems.
 
2013-06-15 02:07:22 PM

HempHead: Stone Meadow: I have Windows 8 on my laptop, which has a handy stand-alone mail app. Since first seeing this issue pop up on the web a week or so ago, I have added all those old semi-dormant addresses to the app, which it checks every time I start my laptop. Presto...no dead email accounts!

The NSA thanks you for your public service announcement.


Okay, I'll bite...
 
2013-06-15 03:19:21 PM
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2013-06-15 03:47:03 PM

Nadie_AZ: edmo: I don't use it for email but do use it as a sign-in for various media. If that goes away I won't use it at all.

Kind of a nostalgic feeling thinking about Yahoo. Seems like something form the AOL days.

I use it as it has been my address since 1998. Lots of people have it. I have been pretty annoyed with them over the last few months, though.

And yes, that is so true.


Turn off javascript next to you log in, you'll thank me later.
 
2013-06-15 04:09:56 PM
Seems like a good plan for identity theft.
 
2013-06-15 04:20:04 PM
Aside from the fact that Yahoo is unable to correctly detect whether you logged in today or seven years ago, there's another big problem here: domain names.

If you own a domain name, it's tied to the registration email address. If someone else gains control of that address, the domain is no longer yours.

So if you have a domain you'd like to keep registered to a Yahoo Mail address you'd better change it now.
 
2013-06-15 04:47:50 PM

Nogale: I still use Yahoo. It's one of the more comfortable options for those of us who need to write in right-to-left languages. But a few years ago they announced that they would be offering two new e-mail options: ymail and rocketmail. I thought that @yahoo.com sounded a little childish so I jumped at the chance to grab a ymail address. Turns out I was wrong about it becoming a thing - to date I've never met anyone who uses ymail.com and most people have never heard of it, prompting me to add "ymail, NOT gmail" to my CV.


One of the interns where I work was confounded by a ymail address when adding e-mails from a signup sheet to our database the other day, so they're out there.

\I had heard of it from doing the same type of scut work in the past.
 
2013-06-15 07:04:18 PM
There's also the unintended consequence of a child claiming the address that the previous owner used as an address to sign up for various adult services. I don't think that many porn spammers purge their mailing lists. I may know of someone that last used his yahoo address to sign up for a free porn site about 10 years ago, and when he logged in yesterday, there's still graphic e-mails coming in.
 
2013-06-16 01:00:07 AM
As long as I can still access my geocities account.
 
2013-06-16 01:07:21 AM

Burn_The_Plows: There's also the unintended consequence of a child claiming the address that the previous owner used as an address to sign up for various adult services. I don't think that many porn spammers purge their mailing lists. I may know of someone that last used his yahoo address to sign up for a free porn site about 10 years ago, and when he logged in yesterday, there's still graphic e-mails coming in.


And how is your husband the Reverend, Mrs. Lovejoy?
 
2013-06-16 04:04:39 AM
It should be standard practice for anything online to delete accounts that have not been accessed for over a year.  We do that for the support forums my company provides.  We also send out an email well ahead of time warning that the account will be deleted.

For email accounts, it would probably be a good idea to deactivate the account and bounce emails for a few months, though that probably won't get rid of the more persistent spammers.  As for mail list admins, if you aren't removing addresses that get bounced back, you are a moron.  Most list software does this automatically, you just set the threshold (three bounces is the standard).
 
2013-06-16 06:03:16 PM
Lol, so after reading this yesterday I logged into my yahoo email, since I haven't in a long time, no messages, whatever, didn't care.  Then today I see on some of my other email accounts that I have forwards stuff to have been spammed by my yahoo mail.  Brilliant.
 
2013-06-16 09:19:37 PM
Why would you want to pick up a used email address anyway? Who knows what sort of spam lists that thing has ended up on.
 
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