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(LA Times)   Los Angeles leads the nation in Medicare spending for end-of-life care. Probably because no one wants to be seen at their wake without a facelift and chin implant   (articles.latimes.com) divider line 15
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2013-06-15 10:17:10 AM  
People need to be more realistic about modern medicine's ability to keep grandpa alive after a lifetime of unfiltered cigarettes and whiskey.

Also, for fark's sake, get a living will, advance directives, and all that out of the way so your family and physicians know your wishes.  It not only avoids treatments you don't want, it keeps your loved ones from having to agonize over those choices.
 
2013-06-15 10:41:58 AM  
Maybe it's all the medical cases that get one way bus tickets to LA from Las Vegas?
 
2013-06-15 11:00:54 AM  

JonZoidberg: People need to be more realistic about modern medicine's ability to keep grandpa alive after a lifetime of unfiltered cigarettes and whiskey.


People are very realistic about the ability to keep people alive longer.
Advances in medicine and treatment make it a lot easier to extend a person's life.
 
2013-06-15 11:28:54 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: JonZoidberg: People need to be more realistic about modern medicine's ability to keep grandpa alive after a lifetime of unfiltered cigarettes and whiskey.

People are very realistic about the ability to keep people alive longer.
Advances in medicine and treatment make it a lot easier to extend a person's life.


True. What they're not realistic about is modern medicine's ability to keep a person's quality of life up during that life extension.
 
2013-06-15 01:02:08 PM  
There is some truly amazing research going on, but it's going to be another 20 years before we're able to turn back our physical clocks. Until then there's no point in spending a couple hundred grand in tax money on an 80 year old with diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and high cholesterol.
 
2013-06-15 01:49:08 PM  
And we wonder why healthcare is so damn expensive.  One day people will wake up and realize that death is inevitable and we can stop spending 100k to keep a person alive for just a little bit longer.  Yes I'm asking for rational decisions in health care.  No it is not worth spending 100k to extend someone's life a few months.

We stopped paying for healthcare ages ago, now we are paying for Ponce D' Leon's quest for immortality.
 
2013-06-15 02:01:15 PM  
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2013-06-15 02:22:47 PM  

JonZoidberg: People need to be more realistic about modern medicine's ability to keep grandpa alive after a lifetime of unfiltered cigarettes and whiskey.

Also, for fark's sake, get a living will, advance directives, and all that out of the way so your family and physicians know your wishes.  It not only avoids treatments you don't want, it keeps your loved ones from having to agonize over those choices.


My living will is going to say keep me alive as long as the costs are borne by somebody else, and when I die, conceal my body so that you can keep my Social Security payments flowing.

As a side note, I wonder how old I would have to get before somebody at Social Security notices and wonders how I've managed to live longer than anyone in recorded history?
 
2013-06-15 03:00:20 PM  

Marine1: tenpoundsofcheese: JonZoidberg: People need to be more realistic about modern medicine's ability to keep grandpa alive after a lifetime of unfiltered cigarettes and whiskey.

People are very realistic about the ability to keep people alive longer.
Advances in medicine and treatment make it a lot easier to extend a person's life.

True. What they're not realistic about is modern medicine's ability to keep a person's quality of life up during that life extension.


And Tebow forbid we ever have anything like Dignitas here in the U.S.
 
2013-06-15 03:48:36 PM  

jjorsett: As a side note, I wonder how old I would have to get before somebody at Social Security notices and wonders how I've managed to live longer than anyone in recorded history?


Well, the Japanese didn't figure it out until the guy would have been 111.
 
2013-06-15 04:21:40 PM  
That's a lot of dead/dying illegals we got there.
 
2013-06-15 09:40:35 PM  
This reckless spending wouldn't be a problem if the Republicans had allowed death panels.
 
2013-06-15 11:38:33 PM  
The article says that the increase happened in spite of more people being on hospice.  I would suggest that hospice is part of the cause of the increase.  I have seen people remain on hospice for two years and not die.  The hospice doesn't have a problem with it because they get to keep on billing for sending out nurses, aides, art therapists and so on.  They like to keep their case load up.  There is a huge incentive to sign people up for hospice in order to increase revenue.
 
2013-06-16 12:06:04 AM  
for heaven's sake

if there was ever a time to legalize assisted suicide
it's now, for poor people.

first, explain to them that their treatment will cost $2 million dollars.

then, explain that you can kill them now for $250.
 
2013-06-16 02:15:45 AM  

Pharmdawg: There is some truly amazing research going on, but it's going to be another 20 years before we're able to turn back our physical clocks. Until then there's no point in spending a couple hundred grand in tax money on an 80 year old with diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and high cholesterol.


...which works out for me, as I'll be in my mid-50s at that point and in need of tuning up.
 
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