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2013-06-15 08:17:52 AM
I just flew Virgin America between New York and Los Angeles, and those seats were nice, and I'm a tall guy. Good experience overall with them. Would fly again.
 
2013-06-15 08:29:03 AM
Pretty much all of the American airlines are crap. They need to remove the law forbidding foreign airline from flying between US cities and let some real competition in. Force the crappy airlines we have in the US to adapt or die.
 
2013-06-15 08:32:37 AM
I would stand up and hold a strap or a rail for flights under 2 hours if it meant more people on the plane and cheap tickets.

Seriously, there's a lot of flights that are an hour, hour+15 mins and people want full seat recline and bottle service.  Just sit farking still for an hour.  you can do it.
 
2013-06-15 08:32:46 AM
First they came for the 7-footers, and I said nothing...
 
2013-06-15 08:34:44 AM
Whatever, at 6'5" it's the difference between being stuffed into a sardine can vs a slightly smaller sardine can. On the rare occasion I have to fly, I just such it up for the 3 or 4 hours it takes to get where I'm going...
 
2013-06-15 08:43:55 AM
So they keep nickel and diming customers to compensate for weight, and then they add more weight.  Will the change prices accordingly?
 
2013-06-15 08:45:03 AM
although subby makes fun, I fully expect height/weight-based surcharges any day now.
 
2013-06-15 08:47:05 AM
There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.
 
2013-06-15 08:50:58 AM

Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.


flying commercial 95% of the way to your destination and then crashing.
 
2013-06-15 08:53:56 AM

gfid: Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.

flying commercial 95% of the way to your destination and then crashing.


But then you wouldn't have to worry about your luggage or redeeming your frequent flyer miles.
 
2013-06-15 08:59:58 AM
Have a pelvis that's wider than ten inches? You certainly don't want to be flying now, unless you're rich enough to afford First Class.
 
2013-06-15 09:01:46 AM

Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.


The word you're looking for is Greyhound.

Imagine being trapped in a metal box with subhumans that even Walmart would not allow past it's doors.
 
2013-06-15 09:02:28 AM
So instead of just having a box to measure your carry-on luggage, there will soon be boxes for passengers to test if they're small enough to fit in the seats?
 
2013-06-15 09:04:07 AM
Flying AA 110k+ miles a year, 1) where in the hell are they going to put more seats on their MD 80 configuration - it is nose to neck as it is, and 2) There is no room left in the overhead space and there will be more people getting on the plane with carry-ons?

Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!
 
2013-06-15 09:04:59 AM

TV's Vinnie: Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.

The word you're looking for is Greyhound.

Imagine being trapped in a metal box with subhumans that even Walmart would not allow past it's doors.


And this is different from flying coach how exactly?
 
2013-06-15 09:05:51 AM
I think the people that have a two feet of ass fat to squeeze into the seat behind their hips are more likely to be more affected by further reduced legroom.
 
2013-06-15 09:07:56 AM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Flying AA 110k+ miles a year, 1) where in the hell are they going to put more seats on their MD 80 configuration - it is nose to neck as it is, and 2) There is no room left in the overhead space and there will be more people getting on the plane with carry-ons?

Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!


One inch of legroom on a 737 translates into a whole new row of fare paying passengers.

And as for carry-on luggage, simply charge $100 for a carry-on bag, and voila!  No more overhead storage problem.
 
2013-06-15 09:08:07 AM

o5iiawah: I would stand up and hold a strap or a rail for flights under 2 hours if it meant more people on the plane and cheap tickets.

Seriously, there's a lot of flights that are an hour, hour+15 mins and people want full seat recline and bottle service.  Just sit farking still for an hour.  you can do it.


www.jaunted.com
 
2013-06-15 09:28:29 AM
"The company began installing thinner seat cushions to add room but will cut an inch of legroom by adding seats to some of its Boeing 737 jets. Passenger-carrying capacity is expected to grow 4%"

My bony ass and gangly limbs cannot cope with any of this.

I haven't flown a commercial flight for years now. I probably won't ever again if they keep this shiat up.
 
2013-06-15 09:50:50 AM
You go out of your way to buy the cheapest ticket you can possibly get, what did you expect?
 
2013-06-15 09:54:03 AM
On the wall of the board room there's an interior shot of the Amistad with the caption "Someday"
 
2013-06-15 10:15:25 AM
I am 6'6" and fit in seats okay with my knees touching the seat in front of me. When the person in front of me tries to recline their seat, I keep pressure on it so it won't go back and squish me. They usually try a couple of times and give up. I have never had a problem with doing this.
 
2013-06-15 10:19:17 AM
At this point I'd actually be happier with standing-room only flights.  At least my feet get sore instead of having my knees get smashed behind a seat-back.  Or I can have part of my leg stick out into the aisle and the flight crew can maliciously drive a cart into it every 20 minutes.
 
2013-06-15 10:21:03 AM

flaminio: o5iiawah: I would stand up and hold a strap or a rail for flights under 2 hours if it meant more people on the plane and cheap tickets.

Seriously, there's a lot of flights that are an hour, hour+15 mins and people want full seat recline and bottle service.  Just sit farking still for an hour.  you can do it.


www.jaunted.com 


The one thing missing from that drawing -- the dimension from the floor to the bottom surface of the overhead bins. I've seen photos and drawings of these seats' prototypes a couple times, but so far I haven't seen the upper limit on passenger height these things would impose.
 
2013-06-15 10:24:41 AM
I'm 6'4" and flying has always been a PITA for me. Even before they started mashing seats together.
 
2013-06-15 10:26:40 AM

phaseolus: flaminio: o5iiawah: I would stand up and hold a strap or a rail for flights under 2 hours if it meant more people on the plane and cheap tickets.

Seriously, there's a lot of flights that are an hour, hour+15 mins and people want full seat recline and bottle service.  Just sit farking still for an hour.  you can do it.

[www.jaunted.com image 292x343] 


The one thing missing from that drawing -- the dimension from the floor to the bottom surface of the overhead bins. I've seen photos and drawings of these seats' prototypes a couple times, but so far I haven't seen the upper limit on passenger height these things would impose.


Overhead space aside, if you're too tall, the top of the seat will hit you in the back of the neck, resulting in an instant neck break in case of any accident.
 
2013-06-15 10:28:05 AM

wiseolddude: I am 6'6" and fit in seats okay with my knees touching the seat in front of me. When the person in front of me tries to recline their seat, I keep pressure on it so it won't go back and squish me. They usually try a couple of times and give up. I have never had a problem with doing this.


6'5" and I do the same thing. If I cross my legs, they can't recline at all.

What surprises me is that hardly  anyone ever looks behind them to see if it's okay if they recline... while simultaneously, almost everyone complains about the person in front of them reclining without warning.
 
2013-06-15 10:34:27 AM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Flying AA 110k+ miles a year, 1) where in the hell are they going to put more seats on their MD 80 configuration - it is nose to neck as it is, and 2) There is no room left in the overhead space and there will be more people getting on the plane with carry-ons?

Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!


Virgin America flies out of DFW.  I use them for frequent trips to CA, and enjoy it quite a bit.
 
2013-06-15 10:38:39 AM
It's ok. I would never fly them anyway. Best airline ever? Lufthansa.
 
2013-06-15 10:39:36 AM

gfid: Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.

flying commercial 95% of the way to your destination and then crashing.


Isn't it ironic?
 
2013-06-15 10:41:37 AM

Theaetetus: Overhead space aside, if you're too tall, the top of the seat will hit you in the back of the neck, resulting in an instant neck break in case of any accident.


As it is the top of today's seats end at my shoulders. The only exception used to be the Recaro seats that Midwest Airlines had on a lot of their flights which were adjustable, but those disappeared a few years ago along with the cookies... and the airline itself.
 
2013-06-15 10:41:49 AM
I'd like to see rows of bunks instead of seats. Seems to me that on a 737, you could easily stack them 5 high. I don't need room to sit up, I don't need a crappy meal, I don't need a soda, I don't need 4 pretzels... just let me sleep for a couple of hours and wake me up when we're at the gate.
 
2013-06-15 10:45:11 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd like to see rows of bunks instead of seats. Seems to me that on a 737, you could easily stack them 5 high. I don't need room to sit up, I don't need a crappy meal, I don't need a soda, I don't need 4 pretzels... just let me sleep for a couple of hours and wake me up when we're at the gate.


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Say, something like this?
 
2013-06-15 10:51:15 AM

Staffist: TheMaskedArmadillo: Flying AA 110k+ miles a year, 1) where in the hell are they going to put more seats on their MD 80 configuration - it is nose to neck as it is, and 2) There is no room left in the overhead space and there will be more people getting on the plane with carry-ons?

Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!

Virgin America flies out of DFW.  I use them for frequent trips to CA, and enjoy it quite a bit.


I know - Most of my trips are to Seattle, Portland, and Toronto.  I nuderstand Virgin America only flies to LAX and SFO.  How are their prices?
 
2013-06-15 10:52:18 AM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Staffist: TheMaskedArmadillo: Flying AA 110k+ miles a year, 1) where in the hell are they going to put more seats on their MD 80 configuration - it is nose to neck as it is, and 2) There is no room left in the overhead space and there will be more people getting on the plane with carry-ons?

Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!

Virgin America flies out of DFW.  I use them for frequent trips to CA, and enjoy it quite a bit.

I know - Most of my trips are to Seattle, Portland, and Toronto.  I nuderstand Virgin America only flies to LAX and SFO.  How are their prices?


Nuderstand? - I nuderstand I need another cup of coffee...
 
2013-06-15 10:55:35 AM

Marcus Aurelius: There are worse things than flying commercial, but none of them comes to mind just now.


You get half way across the ocean and you run out of gas.
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So you have to go back and get more gas.


/we no take airplane. we no take gasoline. we take ship!
//and that's how we fly across the ocean.
 
2013-06-15 10:56:20 AM

Theaetetus: wiseolddude: I am 6'6" and fit in seats okay with my knees touching the seat in front of me. When the person in front of me tries to recline their seat, I keep pressure on it so it won't go back and squish me. They usually try a couple of times and give up. I have never had a problem with doing this.

6'5" and I do the same thing. If I cross my legs, they can't recline at all.

What surprises me is that hardly  anyone ever looks behind them to see if it's okay if they recline... while simultaneously, almost everyone complains about the person in front of them reclining without warning.


Seriously, guys, as if they could move the seat with our knees pressing against the seatback. I'm surprised I didn't give a concussion to the last guy who tried to recline on me.

Oh, and only about 3% of Americans are 6'1" and taller. We are an unprotected class, unlike gays or blacks or women. We are actively discriminated against.
 
2013-06-15 10:57:59 AM
Add this to the list of reasons why being 6'3" sucks. FML.
 
2013-06-15 11:03:09 AM

wildcardjack: Oh, and only about 3% of Americans are 6'1" and taller. We are an unprotected class, unlike gays or blacks or women. We are actively discriminated against.



Well at least the how-dare-you-keep-me-from-reclining-you-should-have-bought-a-first-cla ss-seat crowd hasn't showed up in this thread to harangue us yet, like they always do, so there's that.
 
2013-06-15 11:04:12 AM
The pricing is competitive, but the scheduling can be a bit of a challenge.  I'm a big guy and I pay the price for the larger seats with lots of legroom, but if you're buying tickets without advance, as I often do, it's a better deal (and far better seat) than on other DFW carriers.
 
2013-06-15 11:10:44 AM

Dear Jerk: Add this to the list of reasons why being 6'3" sucks. FML.


Wah.
 
2013-06-15 11:28:58 AM

Theaetetus: wiseolddude: I am 6'6" and fit in seats okay with my knees touching the seat in front of me. When the person in front of me tries to recline their seat, I keep pressure on it so it won't go back and squish me. They usually try a couple of times and give up. I have never had a problem with doing this.

6'5" and I do the same thing. If I cross my legs, they can't recline at all.

What surprises me is that hardly  anyone ever looks behind them to see if it's okay if they recline... while simultaneously, almost everyone complains about the person in front of them reclining without warning.


I have the utter luxury of not having had to fly commercial since mid-2001, but I'm 6'2" and economy class was murder.  The rule was always to check behind you and nod, and if they didn't give you stink eye, you reclined a LITTLE.  Unless it was a child or a midget, in which case, drop anchor.
 
2013-06-15 11:36:52 AM
Jesus. I'm only 6' but have long legs. It's already tough for me to sit on a 2+ hour AA flight without developing nasty pains. I've been boycotting JetBlue, but may have to go back if this keeps up.

/never got the Fark hate for JB. Actual flight experience for me was always pleasant.
 
2013-06-15 11:45:12 AM

Staffist: The pricing is competitive, but the scheduling can be a bit of a challenge.  I'm a big guy and I pay the price for the larger seats with lots of legroom, but if you're buying tickets without advance, as I often do, it's a better deal (and far better seat) than on other DFW carriers.


Thanks!  I may give them them a try the next time I go to LAX or SFO.
 
2013-06-15 11:47:56 AM
As someone who's six foot seven inches tall, when articles like this show up it makes me wonder, can i sue them for discrimination?
 
2013-06-15 11:51:02 AM

JammerJim: Jesus. I'm only 6' but have long legs. It's already tough for me to sit on a 2+ hour AA flight without developing nasty pains. I've been boycotting JetBlue, but may have to go back if this keeps up.

/never got the Fark hate for JB. Actual flight experience for me was always pleasant.


How many people are you?
 
2013-06-15 11:52:12 AM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Virgin America - Come to DFW and show AA how it is done!


Looking at the Virgin America website, it looks like they already fly out of DFW
 
2013-06-15 12:08:22 PM

wildcardjack: Theaetetus: wiseolddude: I am 6'6" and fit in seats okay with my knees touching the seat in front of me. When the person in front of me tries to recline their seat, I keep pressure on it so it won't go back and squish me. They usually try a couple of times and give up. I have never had a problem with doing this.

6'5" and I do the same thing. If I cross my legs, they can't recline at all.

What surprises me is that hardly  anyone ever looks behind them to see if it's okay if they recline... while simultaneously, almost everyone complains about the person in front of them reclining without warning.

Seriously, guys, as if they could move the seat with our knees pressing against the seatback. I'm surprised I didn't give a concussion to the last guy who tried to recline on me.

Oh, and only about 3% of Americans are 6'1" and taller. We are an unprotected class, unlike gays or blacks or women. We are actively discriminated against.


Oh, shut your whining. We earn more and are considered more attractive. We get promoted quicker, are considered more trustworthy and have better leadership qualities, and are more electable in politics. And all of this is inherent, regardless of actual talent, and without having to lift a finger. Airline seats are a tiny annoyance in comparison to our unearned privilege.
 
2013-06-15 12:14:53 PM

finnished: I just flew Virgin America between New York and Los Angeles, and those seats were nice, and I'm a tall guy. Good experience overall with them. Would fly again.


+1 for virgin, they rock
 
2013-06-15 12:23:20 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: JammerJim: Jesus. I'm only 6' but have long legs. It's already tough for me to sit on a 2+ hour AA flight without developing nasty pains. I've been boycotting JetBlue, but may have to go back if this keeps up.

/never got the Fark hate for JB. Actual flight experience for me was always pleasant.

How many people are you?


Oops. That *is* confusing isn't it? I blame my allergies. Here's my attempt to explain: My impression is that many Farker's find flying on JB to be a world of suck. My actual flying with them had been fine. And the gate experience had also been pretty good. My complaint was this: Once we needed to fly somewhere and we already had JB tix, so I tried to just change the date. The cost of that ended up being more than just buying new tickets would have been. But this wasn't made clear when I was talking to the agent. A change fee, yeah fine, but not doubling my ticket cost. I complained when I got my CC bill and they gave me a few bucks credit but it was a pittance. The fact that the need to change the ticketing was due to the death of my father in law (which I explained at the time of the change -- we even had to dig up his obit from the funeral home) didn't help matters. Its been a couple of years now, so maybe its time to get over it and just be much more careful.

/CSB
 
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