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2013-06-15 09:23:39 AM

Mock26: HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

One of the nice things about living in the 21st century is the marvels of modern science.  It is pretty easy to determine if certain foods are safe to eat.  So if the "trash" fish is safe to eat and tastes good, then eat it.  To dismiss it out of hand without knowing the facts is just ignorance.


I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.

/I only started watching the show because it's funny watching the people Larry is visiting work to stay funnier than him
//they usually are
 
2013-06-15 09:25:28 AM
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2013-06-15 09:39:22 AM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


God I miss Jerry's..
 
2013-06-15 09:56:59 AM

lack of warmth: I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.


Damaged or stale candy, for instance.  We had a thread about that.  And yet pork is delicious.
 
2013-06-15 10:21:27 AM
As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.

I love monkfish and a decent tilapia is pretty good.  These used to be called bait.
 
2013-06-15 10:27:06 AM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


There was an attempt once in Florida to market mullet as the 'Lisa' fish, to make it sound more sophisticated.  Shiat...

/fried *or* smoked mullet ftw
 
2013-06-15 10:35:09 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.


Lobsters were used to make cat food back before the Depression.  Went for about 6 cents a pound at the turn of the century.
 
2013-06-15 10:37:55 AM
Lobster was originally considered a trash seafood until it became a delicacy, and "Chilean sea bass" is the Patagonian toothfish and even for a fish it's  ugly as fark.
 
2013-06-15 11:03:35 AM

lack of warmth: Mock26: HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

One of the nice things about living in the 21st century is the marvels of modern science.  It is pretty easy to determine if certain foods are safe to eat.  So if the "trash" fish is safe to eat and tastes good, then eat it.  To dismiss it out of hand without knowing the facts is just ignorance.

I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.

/I only started watching the show because it's funny watching the people Larry is visiting work to stay funnier than him
//they usually are




Growing up I worked on 5,000 head hog farm. Even thou they were in barns some hogs always disappeared. It's always assume they ate each other
 
2013-06-15 11:05:45 AM
Tilapia has been used in aquaculture since the Pharaohs.  It's a good fish that doesn't mind crowding and grows to market size fast.  It's also becoming the go-to fish stock for aquaponic systems (combined aquaculture/hydroponic systems that use effluent from the fish to fertilize the plants, which act as a biofilter).  There are assorted places that farm Tilapia around here, so I almost fell out of my chair when the better half brought some home from the store at 6.99 a pound.  I'm considering building a hobby rig in the backyard just on financial principle.  I've seen a couple prototype rigs for home/indoor use, but it's a while before it becomes something bigger than a hobbyist niche (one small home unit here, this site sells PnP bigger backyard units for examples).

Look at crowding tolerant fish becoming a bigger share of food offerings, especially in places pushing the localivore philosophy.  It's a logical extension of the rooftop herb and lettuce gardens that have been the recent trend in restaurants.  There are some startups burning money attempting racetrack culture of marine species such as Mahi, but for the most part if you aren't on the coast it will be limited to freshwater species for the near future.
 
2013-06-15 11:08:48 AM
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2013-06-15 11:11:46 AM
Lobster is trash. Nothing new.
 
2013-06-15 11:14:44 AM
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2013-06-15 11:18:49 AM

Matthew Keene: That's just peachy! Start treating the poor man's salmon, mackerel, as a delicacy. Then he has to move down the food chain and start eating bottom feeding suction eels.

[deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com image 512x384]


I'm o.k. with this.
 
2013-06-15 12:04:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Foxxinnia: If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.

I remember when US farmers had trouble getting tilapia into supermarkets and it cost about $2/lb.  Then it became fashionable and now we're paying 3x that for Asian tillapia raised on pig shiat.

Fun fact:  the Colorado Gator Farm started as a tilapia farm on a geothermal spring site. Then the EPA classified fish  guts as hazmat.  Rather than pay hazmat disposal fees, the farm got a few gators to eat the offal.  Now it's an exotic wildlife attraction that also raises tilapia. Visitors  can fish with rod and reel,  then feed the gators.


This here is a true story
 
2013-06-15 12:07:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Carp is good if it's prepared properly.

http://www.nps.gov/miss/naturescience/carpreci.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfutebOJglA


Unless it's Asian Carp, then expect nothing but grief and regret.
 
2013-06-15 12:33:55 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Foxxinnia: If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.

I remember when US farmers had trouble getting tilapia into supermarkets and it cost about $2/lb.  Then it became fashionable and now we're paying 3x that for Asian tillapia raised on pig shiat.

Fun fact:  the Colorado Gator Farm started as a tilapia farm on a geothermal spring site. Then the EPA classified fish  guts as hazmat.  Rather than pay hazmat disposal fees, the farm got a few gators to eat the offal.  Now it's an exotic wildlife attraction that also raises tilapia. Visitors  can fish with rod and reel,  then feed the gators.


Hard to get repeat business when the visitors go into the gator tanks.
 
2013-06-15 02:13:15 PM

Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.


s.wsj.net
Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.
 
2013-06-15 02:18:45 PM
I ate at a fancy restaurant in San Francisco a few years back, and they had tilapia for the same price as salmon and halibut. I think some of the other patrons were wondering why I was laughing at the menu.
 
2013-06-15 03:15:19 PM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


I'm not so sure about that. The best wild game I've ever had was wolf tenderloin. Bear and cougar are great too.
 
2013-06-15 03:28:58 PM
just eat it, go home, and have more kids.
 
2013-06-15 03:37:57 PM
I'm not sure what this author was smoking when she wrote this.

Scorpion fish are quite tasty, but never considered trash fish here because they just started showing up recently.
Tilapia are still trash.
Sheepshead have never been trash and are one of my favorite sandwich fishes.
The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.
Whiting are borderline.
 
2013-06-15 04:08:36 PM

Cyno01: Isnt that whats been going on for the past half century? Some big pretty fish gets overfished so they move onto something smaller and uglier and market the hell out of it, then that gets overfished....

Tuna, thats a good looking fish. Anglerfish? Patagonian toothfish? Not so much... tasty though.


More like the last 100 years. Fish are a cyclic, fad-driven industry. Today's "trash fish" is tomorrow's delicacy. Lobster, John Dory, Orange Roughy, Dover Sole, Chilean Sea Bass... they get popular, land-lubbers think they're "new", they get fished out, and the restaurants move on to sell something else.

That's just how the market affects limited resources.
 
2013-06-15 04:54:01 PM
The Oyster Toad.....

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Ugly as home made sin. they can live a couple of hours out of water. when caught, they bark at you, they can latch on to your finger if you are trying to get the hook out.

whenever my father was going for flounder and caught one of these guys instead, he would call it a trash fish, curse it's rotten name for not being a flounder, chop it up and use it for bait.

I always thought they were pretty cool looking myself

Not much meat on them at all.. grow about a foot long at most.

but... if you pull the tenderloin off of them, that is some tasty, firm, yet flaky, delicately flavored meat. I love the damn things.
 
2013-06-15 04:54:51 PM
bonus points, that particular fish that I posted a picture of went to space.
 
2013-06-15 05:00:19 PM
Step 1: Buy anchovies.
Step 2: Wait 1,000 years.
Step 3: Profit

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2013-06-15 05:06:03 PM

Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.


I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.
 
2013-06-15 05:14:51 PM

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?


Drum is not bait. Indeed, drum that are several feet long have been caught. An angler who comes home with a cooler full of Drum has had a very good day. It's delicious, and the fish is quite hardy, thus, they are quite live by the time I filet them at home. So, it's from live to filet on the grill in short order. If I have extra, drum freezes very well without losing texture or flavor. It's an all-around great fish. The texture is firm (not as firm as lobster) and the flavor is light but not bland. It is great when grilled or poached in butter. It plays well with dill, with tarragon, or with heartier flavors. But you are free to keep refusing to eat drum. It just leaves more for the cognoscenti.
 
2013-06-15 05:16:12 PM

captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.


Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.
 
2013-06-15 05:44:56 PM

machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.


I love all sushi and sashimi, , but Mackerel is the one bit I can't deal with easily. A lot of the times the flavor is too intense for me. And I grew up spending a lot of time on the water and eating a lot of seafood, common and otherwise.

not railing.. just saying... pointing a thing out. Mackerel is just not a fish I can eat raw.. Cooked, I love it.

I'm also the guy that loves anchovies on the pizza and on salads and everything.. The Deli next door to the brewery sells white anchovies by the pound.

White anchovies are the ones that are pickled rather than cured. lighter flavor, and lovely.


damn't folks.. don't cook your anchovies into your pizza, put them on the pizza after the bake.
 
2013-06-15 06:33:09 PM
Gross.  Drum is riddled with worms and other parasites.   Why eat that when there are so many alternatives?
 
2013-06-15 06:42:25 PM
Definitely nothing new. Paul Prudhomme took the commercially worthless "trash fish" red drum, and turned it into a best-seller with the aid of blackening seasoning. Even snakehead is seeing the restaurant table here in the DC area since it's apparently pretty tasty.
 
2013-06-15 08:27:45 PM

Cerebral Knievel: machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.

I love all sushi and sashimi, , but Mackerel is the one bit I can't deal with easily. A lot of the times the flavor is too intense for me. And I grew up spending a lot of time on the water and eating a lot of seafood, common and otherwise.

not railing.. just saying... pointing a thing out. Mackerel is just not a fish I can eat raw.. Cooked, I love it.

I'm also the guy that loves anchovies on the pizza and on salads and everything.. The Deli next door to the brewery sells white anchovies by the pound.

White anchovies are the ones that are pickled rather than cured. lighter flavor, and lovely.


damn't folks.. don't cook your anchovies into your pizza, put them on the pizza after the bake.


Yeah, I was referring to cooked mackerel. I tried it as sushi once, and was so-so. Nothing special.

Anchovies are good, too. My only complaint is that when pickled, they are too salty (yes, I know pickling involves salt). Pickled herring is god-like, and doesn't taste as salty.
 
2013-06-15 08:59:25 PM

machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.


mercury, the tastiest of all the heavy metals
 
2013-06-15 10:49:27 PM

panfried: Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.

[s.wsj.net image 553x369]
Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.


www.todayifoundout.com

What a bottom feeder may look like. Behold: a giant aquatic insect related to the cockroach.
Just like anyone else, the 1% will eat anything as long as it's marketed properly and covered in butter.
 
2013-06-15 10:51:18 PM

SoupJohnB: Glockenspiel Hero: As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.

Lobsters were used to make cat food back before the Depression.  Went for about 6 cents a pound at the turn of the century.


6 Cents? I call bullshiat, lobster did NOT cost 6 cents in 1999.
 
2013-06-15 11:00:37 PM

ScreamingHangover: panfried: Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.

[s.wsj.net image 553x369]
Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.



What a bottom feeder may look like. Behold: a giant aquatic insect related to the cockroach.
Just like anyone else, the 1% will eat anything as long as it's marketed properly and covered in butter.


Lobster is delicious. Whatever strokes your ego, though...
 
2013-06-15 11:34:11 PM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


The part of Florida where I grew up, smoked mullet is a delicacy. So delicious.
 
2013-06-16 04:46:27 AM

nekom: Gut and scale one carp. Fill cavity with a four ounces of whole kernel sweet corn. Make a marinade of 2 tablespoons soy sauce, 1 1/2 cups cream sherry; 2 tablespoons brown sugar, 1 tablespoon liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste. After marinating carp overnight, tie fish to a hickory board with parcel twine and bake in a 400-degree oven for 2 1/2 hours, basting regularly. Remove from oven, cut twine, throw away the carp and eat the board.

/can't believe I'm the first one


Either I'm missing a joke or you're overcooking the shiat out of your fish.
 
2013-06-16 05:10:35 AM

inclemency: nekom: Gut and scale one carp. Fill cavity with a four ounces of whole kernel sweet corn. Make a marinade of 2 tablespoons soy sauce, 1 1/2 cups cream sherry; 2 tablespoons brown sugar, 1 tablespoon liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste. After marinating carp overnight, tie fish to a hickory board with parcel twine and bake in a 400-degree oven for 2 1/2 hours, basting regularly. Remove from oven, cut twine, throw away the carp and eat the board.

/can't believe I'm the first one

Either I'm missing a joke or you're overcooking the shiat out of your fish.


www.cyclonefanatic.com
 
2013-06-16 10:43:02 AM
Didn't know that drum was considered a trash fish . People around here catch and eat them all the time.
 
2013-06-16 01:20:32 PM

zjoik: mercury, the tastiest of all the heavy metals


Lead acetate begs to disagree.
 
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