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2013-06-15 12:13:44 AM
 
2013-06-15 12:34:10 AM
I'd rather eat carp meat than intestines from.....anything
 
2013-06-15 12:50:33 AM

Girl From The North Country: I'd rather eat carp meat than intestines from.....anything


Smoked carp is pretty damned good

/they're just bony, is the biggest problem
//well, that and they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom
 
2013-06-15 01:15:22 AM
I catch dolphinfish  puppies all the time in Costa Rica and share them with the locals right below Samara on the Pacific coast
/knows a lot of the very good people
 
2013-06-15 02:00:01 AM
I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?
 
2013-06-15 02:03:56 AM
Ew.
 
2013-06-15 03:01:30 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-15 03:17:36 AM

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?


Why not, if it tastes good and won't give you cancer?  People have used bread for bait just as long.
 
2013-06-15 03:29:02 AM
I was with them right up until the Salmon heads.

/No thanks, I'll just puke in this bag over here.
 
2013-06-15 03:30:26 AM
Like barbecue, fried food, caviar, truffles, lobster and probably thousands of other food items that were created by and for the lower class?
It's like modern art, it just takes the right random douche to praise it for it to suddenly be valuable and classy.
 
2013-06-15 03:44:03 AM
That's just peachy! Start treating the poor man's salmon, mackerel, as a delicacy. Then he has to move down the food chain and start eating bottom feeding suction eels.

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-15 03:44:33 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Like barbecue, fried food, caviar, truffles, lobster and probably thousands of other food items that were created by and for the lower class?
It's like modern art, it just takes the right random douche to praise it for it to suddenly be valuable and classy.


chicken wings?
 
2013-06-15 03:54:05 AM

Wowsersman: I was with them right up until the Salmon heads.

/No thanks, I'll just puke in this bag over here.


Salmon heads make terrific soup base.  The chef just needs to lift out the skull before serving to protect the diner's delicate sensibilities.

/the same goes for rockfish.
//rockfish cioppino is bombtastic.
 
2013-06-15 03:54:26 AM
Fishing out the ocean has caused this. Tilapia was a trash fish in the 50s and 60s. Now it's considered decent/healthy dining from IHop to Sushi restaurants.
 
2013-06-15 03:55:18 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

Why not, if it tastes good and won't give you cancer?  People have used bread for bait just as long.


Yeah if it tastes good I could care less if it's "trash" or not.
 
2013-06-15 03:56:04 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom


This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.
 
2013-06-15 04:00:25 AM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


You sound kosher.

Kosher, and missing out on some truly delicious shellfish,
 
2013-06-15 04:06:22 AM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


Illinois is feeding carp to the poor.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/minnaqua/speciesprofile/silvercarp.html

We are often asked: Can you eat them? Is it safe?

Silver Carp (and Bighead Carp) are both edible. In fact, their diet may be their best selling point. A study done on the Mississippi River by researchers at Southern Illinois University determined that silver carp fed primarily on phytoplankton (algae/plants) and zooplankton (crustaceans/animals). These carp are filter feeders (think baleen whales) and capture algae and crustaceans that are floating in the water, not on the bottom. Phytoplankton and zooplankton occur much lower in the food chain and so have many fewer associated contaminants (mercury/PCB's), so biomagnification is less of a problem. The primary challenge to eating these fish are the numerous bones, but because of their large size this issue can be alleviated with careful filleting techniques.
 
2013-06-15 04:07:40 AM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


You sound like two people who don't know much about eating wild animals.
 
2013-06-15 04:10:07 AM
I had fresh, non-canned sardines years ago, and they were delicious!
 
2013-06-15 04:11:02 AM
Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.
 
2013-06-15 04:13:50 AM
Isnt that whats been going on for the past half century? Some big pretty fish gets overfished so they move onto something smaller and uglier and market the hell out of it, then that gets overfished....

Tuna, thats a good looking fish. Anglerfish? Patagonian toothfish? Not so much... tasty though.
 
2013-06-15 04:14:53 AM
I liked smoked carp as a kid.

Then, after having not had it since around aged 10, had it again around age 16.

That time I vomited it all back up in the same slick that it went down in and havent had it since.

Still love a decent smoked salmon though.
 
2013-06-15 04:23:20 AM

TomD9938: I liked smoked carp as a kid.

Then, after having not had it since around aged 10, had it again around age 16.

That time I vomited it all back up in the same slick that it went down in and havent had it since.

Still love a decent smoked salmon though.


The fish you had at 16 had gone bad or was close to it. I do the same thing with any slightly off protein based food. Fish, unlike the animals that we evolved to eat in partially rotten states, breaks down really fast and becomes inedible/boarder line very quickly (hours or less).  Luckily, I have a pretty sensitive nose, so it has to be cooked with plenty of spices to hide the smell for me to get hit with it.

\part of the reason I buy my familie's food and cook it
\\yes, even I can eat nearly rotten mammalian or avian meat if it is prepared to cover the taste
\\the pooping is like the slashies though: UNCONTROLLABLE!
 
2013-06-15 04:23:41 AM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


One of the nice things about living in the 21st century is the marvels of modern science.  It is pretty easy to determine if certain foods are safe to eat.  So if the "trash" fish is safe to eat and tastes good, then eat it.  To dismiss it out of hand without knowing the facts is just ignorance.
 
2013-06-15 04:24:26 AM

Cyno01: Isnt that whats been going on for the past half century? Some big pretty fish gets overfished so they move onto something smaller and uglier and market the hell out of it, then that gets overfished....

Tuna, thats a good looking fish. Anglerfish? Patagonian toothfish? Not so much... tasty though.


The biggest problem is the fish no one ever hears about that are gathered to feed livestock and household pets.  Go ahead and look up a little fish called menhaden sometime.  People don't eat it, because it's mostly inedible.  It's name is from an American Indian word for fertilizer.  But if you grind it up, you can put it in any kind of animal feed.  The breakthrough was when commercial fishers started using helicopters to spot the shadow of large schools of it, and then lead the boats over with giant nets to grab the entire school at once.  It was pushed to the brink of extinction because of that, which in turn put the squeeze on its natural predators, tuna.  Also, menhaden were important to prevent red tide poisoning.
 
2013-06-15 04:26:34 AM
Mmmmmmm. Hagfish.
 
2013-06-15 04:26:54 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: I can eat nearly rotten mammalian or avian meat if it is prepared to cover the taste


If I was hungry enough, I could too.
 
2013-06-15 04:32:24 AM
That reminds me, I need to take a shower.
 
2013-06-15 04:35:58 AM
I don't follow fashion, that would be a joke.
 
2013-06-15 04:43:08 AM
Carp and buffalo are great canned. No need to skin or debone them. Just scale trim off the red blood meat chunk it up and pack into jars for pressure canning. Tastes like canned salmon. Put food coloring in it and it fools people
 
2013-06-15 04:50:04 AM

BarkingUnicorn: HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

Illinois is feeding carp to the poor.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/minnaqua/speciesprofile/silvercarp.html

We are often asked: Can you eat them? Is it safe?

Silver Carp (and Bighead Carp) are both edible. In fact, their diet may be their best selling point. A study done on the Mississippi River by researchers at Southern Illinois University determined that silver carp fed primarily on phytoplankton (algae/plants) and zooplankton (crustaceans/animals). These carp are filter feeders (think baleen whales) and capture algae and crustaceans that are floating in the water, not on the bottom. Phytoplankton and zooplankton occur much lower in the food chain and so have many fewer associated contaminants (mercury/PCB's), so biomagnification is less of a problem. The primary challenge to eating these fish are the numerous bones, but because of their large size this issue can be alleviated with careful filleting techniques.




Them being filter feeders are one of the problems. They compete with native filter feeders like the paddlefish. Talk about a good eating fish. No bones in but it's trademark nose and it's cartilage back tube. I have snagged countless 60,70, pound fish. Plus some 80-90 pounders. Great eating but hard work snagging them.
 
2013-06-15 04:54:05 AM
For some reason because it comes "from the water" I'll eat pretty much anything. Seaweed, any type of fish, you name it. I don't think I'd ever knowingly eat whale or dolphin.  Basically a lobster is like a massive water cockroach. But I'm irrationally picky when it comes to anything that comes "from the land".
 
2013-06-15 05:08:05 AM

Matthew Keene: That's just peachy! Start treating the poor man's salmon, mackerel, as a delicacy.


Earlier this year, a study reported DNA analysis of fish sold in over 600 US restaurants and stores found a third of samples mislabeled the species. Mackerel and catfish were among the fish being sold as Alaskan/Pacific cod or grouper. 74% of the fish sold in US sushi restaurants was mislabeled. Depending on how you define "trash fish," I'm sure plenty of it makes its way to our plates already.
 
2013-06-15 05:20:47 AM
I rarely eat fish, not that I don't like it but I'll always get a steak instead or something else beefy if available.
If you put any fish in front of me I wouldn't have a clue what it was, by look or taste.
Having said that, if you cook up a fish and serve it to me I will either like it or not. The name or type of fish is irrelevant to me.
 
2013-06-15 05:21:15 AM
If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.
 
2013-06-15 05:51:55 AM
When I read the headline I thought it was an article on freegans or something.
 
2013-06-15 07:01:36 AM
I propose a new idiom: "happier than a tilapia in pig shiat"

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012 -10-11/asian-seafood-raised-on-p i g-feces-approved-for-u-s-consumers.htm l
 
2013-06-15 07:06:58 AM

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?


A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...
 
2013-06-15 07:44:32 AM
 
2013-06-15 07:47:53 AM
Gut and scale one carp. Fill cavity with a four ounces of whole kernel sweet corn. Make a marinade of 2 tablespoons soy sauce, 1 1/2 cups cream sherry; 2 tablespoons brown sugar, 1 tablespoon liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste. After marinating carp overnight, tie fish to a hickory board with parcel twine and bake in a 400-degree oven for 2 1/2 hours, basting regularly. Remove from oven, cut twine, throw away the carp and eat the board.

/can't believe I'm the first one
 
2013-06-15 07:58:12 AM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


I guess you don't eat lobster, crab, catfish or tilapia, then, right?

And the whole "they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom" is totally false. The age and diet of a fish determines what pollutants they have. The older the fish and the higher on the food chain, the more polluted it is. Common carp can get old, which makes them bad, but they eat a pretty pollutant-free diet (low numbers of fish, most insects and crustaceans). Asian carp are fast growing and eat zooplankton, which makes them very low in contaminants. Asian carp are likely very high in omega 3 and vitamin D as well, due to their diet (just a guess, but no source or anything).

Same reason sardines are super low in contaminants -- fast growing, low food chain fish are safer to eat for both the environment and yourself.
 
2013-06-15 08:33:17 AM

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?


My mom says that about sardines and I don't get it. What is it about being 'bait' that makes it unappealing?
 
2013-06-15 08:38:08 AM
I'd rather eat wild caught garbage fish than just about anything farmed.
 
2013-06-15 08:43:10 AM
It's a feast!

www.tu-pc.com
 
2013-06-15 08:45:46 AM
I called the local Italian place the other day for their fish special.  It was Halibut.  When I asked the price, it was something like $29.  For halibut?  Are you f'n kidding me?!  It's a giant flatfish, and nothing more.
 
2013-06-15 08:49:26 AM

Fromageball: My mom says that about sardines and I don't get it. What is it about being 'bait' that makes it unappealing?


I guess it's some kind of manly "I only eat predator fish HUR-HURRR!" kinda thing.

Anyway, calling any fish "garbage" is quickly becoming a luxury, if you want to actually eat fish. Unless there's some global treaty with teeth, and a fleet of enforcement ships with large guns, we're probably gonna eat ourselves out of all the "good" fish in maybe 20 years. After that, it's catfish, tilapia and carp, unless someone can re-establish a viable tuna population.
 
2013-06-15 08:51:40 AM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


NOW we have someone who makes sense!
 
2013-06-15 08:55:13 AM
 
2013-06-15 09:13:38 AM

Foxxinnia: If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.


I remember when US farmers had trouble getting tilapia into supermarkets and it cost about $2/lb.  Then it became fashionable and now we're paying 3x that for Asian tillapia raised on pig shiat.

Fun fact:  the Colorado Gator Farm started as a tilapia farm on a geothermal spring site. Then the EPA classified fish  guts as hazmat.  Rather than pay hazmat disposal fees, the farm got a few gators to eat the offal.  Now it's an exotic wildlife attraction that also raises tilapia. Visitors  can fish with rod and reel,  then feed the gators.
 
2013-06-15 09:23:39 AM

Mock26: HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

One of the nice things about living in the 21st century is the marvels of modern science.  It is pretty easy to determine if certain foods are safe to eat.  So if the "trash" fish is safe to eat and tastes good, then eat it.  To dismiss it out of hand without knowing the facts is just ignorance.


I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.

/I only started watching the show because it's funny watching the people Larry is visiting work to stay funnier than him
//they usually are
 
2013-06-15 09:25:28 AM
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2013-06-15 09:39:22 AM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


God I miss Jerry's..
 
2013-06-15 09:56:59 AM

lack of warmth: I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.


Damaged or stale candy, for instance.  We had a thread about that.  And yet pork is delicious.
 
2013-06-15 10:21:27 AM
As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.

I love monkfish and a decent tilapia is pretty good.  These used to be called bait.
 
2013-06-15 10:27:06 AM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


There was an attempt once in Florida to market mullet as the 'Lisa' fish, to make it sound more sophisticated.  Shiat...

/fried *or* smoked mullet ftw
 
2013-06-15 10:35:09 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.


Lobsters were used to make cat food back before the Depression.  Went for about 6 cents a pound at the turn of the century.
 
2013-06-15 10:37:55 AM
Lobster was originally considered a trash seafood until it became a delicacy, and "Chilean sea bass" is the Patagonian toothfish and even for a fish it's  ugly as fark.
 
2013-06-15 11:03:35 AM

lack of warmth: Mock26: HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

One of the nice things about living in the 21st century is the marvels of modern science.  It is pretty easy to determine if certain foods are safe to eat.  So if the "trash" fish is safe to eat and tastes good, then eat it.  To dismiss it out of hand without knowing the facts is just ignorance.

I guess he isn't familiar with what pigs eat.  Pig, the trash livestock.  Don't believe me, check out a recent episode of Only in America with Larry the Cable Guy.  Larry went to a pig farm and helped feed the pigs cooked trash.  Other livestock actually have feed grown for them, not pigs.

/I only started watching the show because it's funny watching the people Larry is visiting work to stay funnier than him
//they usually are




Growing up I worked on 5,000 head hog farm. Even thou they were in barns some hogs always disappeared. It's always assume they ate each other
 
2013-06-15 11:05:45 AM
Tilapia has been used in aquaculture since the Pharaohs.  It's a good fish that doesn't mind crowding and grows to market size fast.  It's also becoming the go-to fish stock for aquaponic systems (combined aquaculture/hydroponic systems that use effluent from the fish to fertilize the plants, which act as a biofilter).  There are assorted places that farm Tilapia around here, so I almost fell out of my chair when the better half brought some home from the store at 6.99 a pound.  I'm considering building a hobby rig in the backyard just on financial principle.  I've seen a couple prototype rigs for home/indoor use, but it's a while before it becomes something bigger than a hobbyist niche (one small home unit here, this site sells PnP bigger backyard units for examples).

Look at crowding tolerant fish becoming a bigger share of food offerings, especially in places pushing the localivore philosophy.  It's a logical extension of the rooftop herb and lettuce gardens that have been the recent trend in restaurants.  There are some startups burning money attempting racetrack culture of marine species such as Mahi, but for the most part if you aren't on the coast it will be limited to freshwater species for the near future.
 
2013-06-15 11:08:48 AM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-15 11:11:46 AM
Lobster is trash. Nothing new.
 
2013-06-15 11:14:44 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-15 11:18:49 AM

Matthew Keene: That's just peachy! Start treating the poor man's salmon, mackerel, as a delicacy. Then he has to move down the food chain and start eating bottom feeding suction eels.

[deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com image 512x384]


I'm o.k. with this.
 
2013-06-15 12:04:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Foxxinnia: If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.

I remember when US farmers had trouble getting tilapia into supermarkets and it cost about $2/lb.  Then it became fashionable and now we're paying 3x that for Asian tillapia raised on pig shiat.

Fun fact:  the Colorado Gator Farm started as a tilapia farm on a geothermal spring site. Then the EPA classified fish  guts as hazmat.  Rather than pay hazmat disposal fees, the farm got a few gators to eat the offal.  Now it's an exotic wildlife attraction that also raises tilapia. Visitors  can fish with rod and reel,  then feed the gators.


This here is a true story
 
2013-06-15 12:07:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Carp is good if it's prepared properly.

http://www.nps.gov/miss/naturescience/carpreci.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfutebOJglA


Unless it's Asian Carp, then expect nothing but grief and regret.
 
2013-06-15 12:33:55 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Foxxinnia: If tilapia can become so abundant in such a short period of time then I guess anything is possible.

I remember when US farmers had trouble getting tilapia into supermarkets and it cost about $2/lb.  Then it became fashionable and now we're paying 3x that for Asian tillapia raised on pig shiat.

Fun fact:  the Colorado Gator Farm started as a tilapia farm on a geothermal spring site. Then the EPA classified fish  guts as hazmat.  Rather than pay hazmat disposal fees, the farm got a few gators to eat the offal.  Now it's an exotic wildlife attraction that also raises tilapia. Visitors  can fish with rod and reel,  then feed the gators.


Hard to get repeat business when the visitors go into the gator tanks.
 
2013-06-15 02:13:15 PM

Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.


s.wsj.net
Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.
 
2013-06-15 02:18:45 PM
I ate at a fancy restaurant in San Francisco a few years back, and they had tilapia for the same price as salmon and halibut. I think some of the other patrons were wondering why I was laughing at the menu.
 
2013-06-15 03:15:19 PM

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.


I'm not so sure about that. The best wild game I've ever had was wolf tenderloin. Bear and cougar are great too.
 
2013-06-15 03:28:58 PM
just eat it, go home, and have more kids.
 
2013-06-15 03:37:57 PM
I'm not sure what this author was smoking when she wrote this.

Scorpion fish are quite tasty, but never considered trash fish here because they just started showing up recently.
Tilapia are still trash.
Sheepshead have never been trash and are one of my favorite sandwich fishes.
The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.
Whiting are borderline.
 
2013-06-15 04:08:36 PM

Cyno01: Isnt that whats been going on for the past half century? Some big pretty fish gets overfished so they move onto something smaller and uglier and market the hell out of it, then that gets overfished....

Tuna, thats a good looking fish. Anglerfish? Patagonian toothfish? Not so much... tasty though.


More like the last 100 years. Fish are a cyclic, fad-driven industry. Today's "trash fish" is tomorrow's delicacy. Lobster, John Dory, Orange Roughy, Dover Sole, Chilean Sea Bass... they get popular, land-lubbers think they're "new", they get fished out, and the restaurants move on to sell something else.

That's just how the market affects limited resources.
 
2013-06-15 04:54:01 PM
The Oyster Toad.....

a.abcnews.com

Ugly as home made sin. they can live a couple of hours out of water. when caught, they bark at you, they can latch on to your finger if you are trying to get the hook out.

whenever my father was going for flounder and caught one of these guys instead, he would call it a trash fish, curse it's rotten name for not being a flounder, chop it up and use it for bait.

I always thought they were pretty cool looking myself

Not much meat on them at all.. grow about a foot long at most.

but... if you pull the tenderloin off of them, that is some tasty, firm, yet flaky, delicately flavored meat. I love the damn things.
 
2013-06-15 04:54:51 PM
bonus points, that particular fish that I posted a picture of went to space.
 
2013-06-15 05:00:19 PM
Step 1: Buy anchovies.
Step 2: Wait 1,000 years.
Step 3: Profit

anenglishwomaninsalem.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-15 05:06:03 PM

Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.


I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.
 
2013-06-15 05:14:51 PM

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?


Drum is not bait. Indeed, drum that are several feet long have been caught. An angler who comes home with a cooler full of Drum has had a very good day. It's delicious, and the fish is quite hardy, thus, they are quite live by the time I filet them at home. So, it's from live to filet on the grill in short order. If I have extra, drum freezes very well without losing texture or flavor. It's an all-around great fish. The texture is firm (not as firm as lobster) and the flavor is light but not bland. It is great when grilled or poached in butter. It plays well with dill, with tarragon, or with heartier flavors. But you are free to keep refusing to eat drum. It just leaves more for the cognoscenti.
 
2013-06-15 05:16:12 PM

captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.


Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.
 
2013-06-15 05:44:56 PM

machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.


I love all sushi and sashimi, , but Mackerel is the one bit I can't deal with easily. A lot of the times the flavor is too intense for me. And I grew up spending a lot of time on the water and eating a lot of seafood, common and otherwise.

not railing.. just saying... pointing a thing out. Mackerel is just not a fish I can eat raw.. Cooked, I love it.

I'm also the guy that loves anchovies on the pizza and on salads and everything.. The Deli next door to the brewery sells white anchovies by the pound.

White anchovies are the ones that are pickled rather than cured. lighter flavor, and lovely.


damn't folks.. don't cook your anchovies into your pizza, put them on the pizza after the bake.
 
2013-06-15 06:33:09 PM
Gross.  Drum is riddled with worms and other parasites.   Why eat that when there are so many alternatives?
 
2013-06-15 06:42:25 PM
Definitely nothing new. Paul Prudhomme took the commercially worthless "trash fish" red drum, and turned it into a best-seller with the aid of blackening seasoning. Even snakehead is seeing the restaurant table here in the DC area since it's apparently pretty tasty.
 
2013-06-15 08:27:45 PM

Cerebral Knievel: machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.

I love all sushi and sashimi, , but Mackerel is the one bit I can't deal with easily. A lot of the times the flavor is too intense for me. And I grew up spending a lot of time on the water and eating a lot of seafood, common and otherwise.

not railing.. just saying... pointing a thing out. Mackerel is just not a fish I can eat raw.. Cooked, I love it.

I'm also the guy that loves anchovies on the pizza and on salads and everything.. The Deli next door to the brewery sells white anchovies by the pound.

White anchovies are the ones that are pickled rather than cured. lighter flavor, and lovely.


damn't folks.. don't cook your anchovies into your pizza, put them on the pizza after the bake.


Yeah, I was referring to cooked mackerel. I tried it as sushi once, and was so-so. Nothing special.

Anchovies are good, too. My only complaint is that when pickled, they are too salty (yes, I know pickling involves salt). Pickled herring is god-like, and doesn't taste as salty.
 
2013-06-15 08:59:25 PM

machoprogrammer: captainktainer: Cataholic: The Brits think Mackerel is tasty...enough said.

I hadn't had mackerel before, to my knowledge. Last Sunday, I had two pieces of Norwegian mackerel sushi. It was... sublime. Just a truly amazing taste.

So, YMMV on that.

Mackerel is delicious. Spanish Mackerel, while high in mercury, is just amazingly tasty.


mercury, the tastiest of all the heavy metals
 
2013-06-15 10:49:27 PM

panfried: Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.

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Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.


www.todayifoundout.com

What a bottom feeder may look like. Behold: a giant aquatic insect related to the cockroach.
Just like anyone else, the 1% will eat anything as long as it's marketed properly and covered in butter.
 
2013-06-15 10:51:18 PM

SoupJohnB: Glockenspiel Hero: As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.

Lobsters were used to make cat food back before the Depression.  Went for about 6 cents a pound at the turn of the century.


6 Cents? I call bullshiat, lobster did NOT cost 6 cents in 1999.
 
2013-06-15 11:00:37 PM

ScreamingHangover: panfried: Raw_fishFood: Alright, I'm in. Especially if it helps to help resupply the oceans. I don't want good seafood to be a distant memory in 20 years.

[s.wsj.net image 553x369]
Good, while you and the rest of you 99% bottom feeders eat bottom feeders the 1%'rs premium food supply will not be threatened.  Now run along. There's a good chap.



What a bottom feeder may look like. Behold: a giant aquatic insect related to the cockroach.
Just like anyone else, the 1% will eat anything as long as it's marketed properly and covered in butter.


Lobster is delicious. Whatever strokes your ego, though...
 
2013-06-15 11:34:11 PM

DisplacedTexan: Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

A buddy of mine grew up in South Florida and always used mullet as bait.  We went to a fish fry at my grandparent's house in North Florida and the only fish my grandfather would fry was mullet.

My buddy turned up his nose but, as a polite gesture, agreed to try it.  It has since become one of his favorite fish to use for a fish fry.

/Fried Mullet Sandwich at Jerry's Drive-In FTW...


The part of Florida where I grew up, smoked mullet is a delicacy. So delicious.
 
2013-06-16 04:46:27 AM

nekom: Gut and scale one carp. Fill cavity with a four ounces of whole kernel sweet corn. Make a marinade of 2 tablespoons soy sauce, 1 1/2 cups cream sherry; 2 tablespoons brown sugar, 1 tablespoon liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste. After marinating carp overnight, tie fish to a hickory board with parcel twine and bake in a 400-degree oven for 2 1/2 hours, basting regularly. Remove from oven, cut twine, throw away the carp and eat the board.

/can't believe I'm the first one


Either I'm missing a joke or you're overcooking the shiat out of your fish.
 
2013-06-16 05:10:35 AM

inclemency: nekom: Gut and scale one carp. Fill cavity with a four ounces of whole kernel sweet corn. Make a marinade of 2 tablespoons soy sauce, 1 1/2 cups cream sherry; 2 tablespoons brown sugar, 1 tablespoon liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste. After marinating carp overnight, tie fish to a hickory board with parcel twine and bake in a 400-degree oven for 2 1/2 hours, basting regularly. Remove from oven, cut twine, throw away the carp and eat the board.

/can't believe I'm the first one

Either I'm missing a joke or you're overcooking the shiat out of your fish.


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2013-06-16 10:43:02 AM
Didn't know that drum was considered a trash fish . People around here catch and eat them all the time.
 
2013-06-16 01:20:32 PM

zjoik: mercury, the tastiest of all the heavy metals


Lead acetate begs to disagree.
 
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