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2013-06-15 04:46:56 AM
ftfa: "He seems to be lost,"

Like his cause.
 
2013-06-15 05:02:52 AM

Gyrfalcon: There are plenty of people of older generations (my aged grandmother among them) who are more than willing to be exposed to new ideas, learn from past mistakes, and admit they were wrong. There are plenty of people younger than me (I'm 49) who will never admit their worldview is flawed and that things are not the way they thought. We have a person younger than me right now who ran as Republican vice-presidential candidate who, I submit to you, has considerably less ability to "relate to our children's issues" than many people in their 70's and 80's.


God bless your grandmother then. And I did say that "not all of them of that age are like that." It's just that there are far more of them in Congress that don't have a clue than not. That's a fact. Some of it's age, some of it's that they are just assholes to begin with. Either way, they are not helping the youth of this country at all.

A good friend of mine is 70+ years old. He was a MCPOotNavy before he retired. He's anything but a dumbass but he'd be the first to tell you that he's lost when it comes to kids problems today. In fact, he's already complained about the pace society is moving and said he's concerned we're outpacing ourselves. That we may not have the ability to keep up. I'm not saying he's right because I don't believe he is, but if he's having problems I'm certain the 90 year old man in this article is as well. And you're grandmother probably is too. Though maybe not as much as others.

And my kids are anything but precious darlings. I love them but they are full grown adults now and so redneck that'd bite your farking ear off just for fun. I do worry about them surviving but I'm sure they'll make it in the end. And I don't appreciate your sarcasm towards them either. I don't know you but there's some things I draw the line at. Unless you'd rather I say something stupid about your grandmother, which I would never do, then don't say stupid shiat about my kids again. Bash me all you want but leave my kids "preciousness" out of it.
 
2013-06-15 05:20:57 AM
Missisauga, Ontario has a near 90 year old mayor who keeps getting re-elected and I keep saying from Toronto 'pedobear can work on both spectrums: too old'.

Retire old man.
 
2013-06-15 05:35:43 AM
They need a goddamn age limit for congress.
 
2013-06-15 05:53:11 AM

Phil Moskowitz: They need a goddamn age limit for congress.


The average of the 113th Congress is 58 in the House and 61 in the Senate. Which is up slightly in the House and down slightly in the Senate. That's for an average national age of 35.8 male and 38.5 female(2012 est.). With a full 25% under the age of 20. That's too old for Congress considering many of them are pushing 75(or more) and I'd like for that average to come down a bit. While Gyrfalcon's grandmother sounds like a cool person I seriously doubt there many more like her out there. Especially not in Congress.

I'd be more incline to have term limits than age limits though. And less millionaires in Congress would also help. Yeah, I know, good luck with that.
 
2013-06-15 05:55:08 AM
This doesn't surprise me.  After all, people from Texas are damn near lethally challenged by a simple bag of pretzels.  And doors?

Well...
www.smh.com.au

I will give the dotty, old bastard credit, though.  At least he didn't try to shoot his way out.
 
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2013-06-15 07:08:10 AM
 
2013-06-15 07:44:40 AM

BravadoGT: He's NINETY.  They didn't have gays back in his time.  They were just "fops" or "dandies"


You never heard of the Gay Nineties?
 
2013-06-15 07:49:22 AM

draa: Gyrfalcon: And in re the horrors over his age--you would not be annoyed if my aged grandmother were serving the state of Florida as one of their Representatives, even if she is a die-hard Republican. The problem would be (like this old man) getting her in and out of the building in a timely fashion. Age =/= retardation, any more than youth = sharp mind and brilliant insight into social issues. Remind me to tell you about her minor contribution to the integration of West Virginia education some time.

For me, the problem with all the old people serving in Congress is that most of them don't have a farking clue about the struggles of today's youth. Or the current cultural issues that's going on today. They are out of touch with modern society and yet they are passing laws that govern that society. That's a big reason that we can't move forward I believe. They are constantly trying to take us back to their youth and society is nothing like it used to be when they grew up.


And as long as the youth participation hovers around 30% in elections (2012 was an outlier for obvious reasons) this will continue.  Young people are routinely outnumbered at the polls 2 or more to one.  They can't be bothered to spend 20 minutes determining their future, but will spend the next 2 or 4 years biatching about how the system is stacked against them.

You get what you vote for.
 
2013-06-15 08:44:43 AM

AngryDragon: And as long as the youth participation hovers around 30% in elections (2012 was an outlier for obvious reasons) this will continue. Young people are routinely outnumbered at the polls 2 or more to one. They can't be bothered to spend 20 minutes determining their future, but will spend the next 2 or 4 years biatching about how the system is stacked against them.

You get what you vote for.


I agree, but I think many of them feel that it's no use since things won't change even if they do vote. I know some of them just don't care, but why should they since nothing will change in the end? I know I've heard more than one say that. Once politicians get to Washington, they forget all about the reasons they were sent there. That goes across all political lines, too. The kids know that. Hell, everybody knows that. Even with an all Democrat or all Republican Congress and White House nothing would change. Past experiences have already proven it time and again. Kids can see the same thing we do. I wish it would change but honestly if 100% of them voted nothing would be any different in Washington. Or the bullshiat coming from it either.

Listen, I voted for Obama(twice) but the NSA crap that's going on right now sort of proves my point. He said he'd do things differently than Bush. So far he's just like Bush in many ways. If that's the way things are going to be why should our kids care who's in there? Or in Congress? For that matter why should I? Outside of some social issues(which I support) the two groups aren't really that much different. Neither group wants to help lower the cost of education or raise the slave wages people are working for. Both groups are so deep in Wall Street and Corporate pockets that they can't even be found anymore. Some individuals might want to do things to help but collectively nobody gives a damn. I can't blame kids for saying fark it even if they could be bothered to vote because frankly I'm close to saying the same thing.


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2013-06-15 09:37:05 AM
Congressman Nevirn00d on his way to the 'pirate' cruise

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2013-06-15 10:23:26 AM

inclemency: Missisauga, Ontario has a near 90 year old mayor who keeps getting re-elected and I keep saying from Toronto 'pedobear can work on both spectrums: too old'.

Retire old man.


Mississauga?  Goddamn.
 
2013-06-15 10:44:29 AM

MisterRonbo: BMulligan: First of all, some of the most reactionary thinking comes from the young. Look at the Iranian revolution - guys in their twenties and thirties, wanting to recapture the glory of the 11th Century.

Yes, I'm sure you have your finger on the pulse of the younger generation in Iran. No doubt its about wanting to implement a stricter form of Islam than they already have.  The way the government has wrecked the economy, the underground nightclubs where men and women mingle and even drink, everything I've read about mobile phones being used to circumvent the cultural edicts from the ayatollahs - none of that is true.

Because BMulligan knows what's going on in Iran. And from that, extrapolates to how youth everywhere are really just reactionaries harkening back to a far, far earlier time.

This is why I love the internet. I get exposed to the ridiculous things people actually believe.


Try responding to what I've said rather than what you imagine I said. I said that reactionary thinking often shows up in the young, and I cited one well known example from recent history. I certainly didn't say that all young people are given to reactionary thinking, or that such thinking was the only cause of the Iranian revolution, or that circumstances in Iran are the same as they were 35 years ago. But if I had said any of those things, you sure would have shown me the error of my ways.
 
2013-06-15 10:47:40 AM
Ralph Hall Lets His Hair Down," Hall noted: "I would just say that while I do have a good head of hair for a 90-year-old, I do not have the quantity of hair, nor the inclination, to let it down.

This is actually really funny for Conservative, and not mean spirited at all.
 
2013-06-15 11:10:35 AM

Jim_Callahan: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /if we can't have term limits, can we at least have a freaking mandatory retirement age?

Short answer: No.

Longer answer:

29 USC sec 623:
(a)Employer practices
It shall be unlawful for an employer
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual or otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual's age;

That'd be federal anti-discrimination law, it applies to everyone over 40.


I don't care how old he is.  What I care about is that this man holds some very archaic and nonsensical values that are negatively impacting the basic civil rights of a substantial proportion of American citizens.  What I care about is that this man wandered into a room with the very people whose rights he opposes and did not recognize them as such.  If you can't even identify the people you're trying to keep down, you are not fit to create policy that affects them.  Michelle Bachmann isn't 90, and she had the same goddamned problem.
 
2013-06-15 11:22:35 AM

MisterRonbo: Yes, it really is different for this generation. It isn't that they have changed, its that the costs have gone through the roof.


Thank you!  Old folks REALLY don't understand just how bad inflation has gotten.
 
2013-06-15 11:26:33 AM

Snatch Bandergrip: Jim_Callahan: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /if we can't have term limits, can we at least have a freaking mandatory retirement age?

Short answer: No.

Longer answer:

29 USC sec 623:
(a)Employer practices
It shall be unlawful for an employer
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual or otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual's age;

That'd be federal anti-discrimination law, it applies to everyone over 40.

I don't care how old he is.  What I care about is that this man holds some very archaic and nonsensical values that are negatively impacting the basic civil rights of a substantial proportion of American citizens.  What I care about is that this man wandered into a room with the very people whose rights he opposes and did not recognize them as such.  If you can't even identify the people you're trying to keep down, you are not fit to create policy that affects them.  Michelle Bachmann isn't 90, and she had the same goddamned problem.


Well, that IS her IQ
 
2013-06-15 11:31:39 AM

Gyrfalcon: Why was everyone at the LBGT event "shocked" at his presence? An old man shows up, acts polite for a little bit, then leaves: What's the "shock"? Why not invite him to stay a while? He's almost as old as my grandmother, for chrissakes, at least I can understand why HE would be a DOMA advocate.


Eh, my grandmother is 90 and in favor of gay marriage (very anti-DOMA). Of course, she's never been the bigoted type, has always been very independent in life, and has a grandson in a binational same-sex relationship that is threatened by DOMA. I suppose all of those things help.
 
2013-06-15 12:46:08 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "And before I went into that wrong door I inadvertently dressed myself in a darkened room, which is why I am wearing chaps, pink pixie wings, body glitter and have the words 'SPERM DUMP' blearily lipsticked on my cheeks. Nothing to see here!"


What's sad is that his base still unquestionably prefers, "I am a doddering old man who got lost," to "maybe I just don't hate the gays anymore."
 
2013-06-15 12:55:43 PM
Apparently, he entered the wrong door.  I guess during his entire lifetime he's been playing it off as accidentally entering the wrong door.

All anti-gay Conservatives are homosexual to their very core.  They just hate themselves.  Worse than other US conservatives, who hate the entire country.
 
2013-06-15 01:10:38 PM

spongeboob: Ralph Hall Lets His Hair Down," Hall noted: "I would just say that while I do have a good head of hair for a 90-year-old, I do not have the quantity of hair, nor the inclination, to let it down.

This is actually really funny for Conservative, and not mean spirited at all.


I read everything he said in the voice of Buddy Cole.
 
2013-06-15 01:21:20 PM
FTFA
Ralph Hall, a 90-year-old Republican congressman from Texas who is a fierce defender of the Defense of Marriage Act, accidentally supported a pro-gay rights event last week before realizing he had entered the wrong door.

I'm beginning to understand the problem a little more.  How in the hell are we supposed to have a 21st-century society when we have people who were born in the early 20th century still in charge?
 
2013-06-15 01:29:36 PM

wellreadneck: spongeboob: Ralph Hall Lets His Hair Down," Hall noted: "I would just say that while I do have a good head of hair for a 90-year-old, I do not have the quantity of hair, nor the inclination, to let it down.

This is actually really funny for Conservative, and not mean spirited at all.

I read everything he said in the voice of Buddy Cole.


Had to resort to the Googles, didn't realize that character had a name. But now I can't not hear it in his voice.
 
2013-06-15 01:34:38 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: "Many of those in attendance probably were surprised to see me walk in, but were not surprised to see me leave quickly," Hall said about his mistake.

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]


This gif seems to have exploded in popularity again this last week or so on Fark. Still cracks me up every single time.

/attention to detail: how his eyes widen after he sees Bart. they didn't just loop the same sequence
 
2013-06-15 01:54:54 PM
This is a tough one.  A lot of anti-gay politicians do get outed as gay, but Hall is 90 years old.  Or was his age all part of his excuse to avoid being outed?  In this case, I don't know what to think.  Still thinking people that are pro-DOMA don't understand "equal protection of the laws."
 
2013-06-15 02:34:57 PM

John Dewey: I_Am_Weasel: he had entered the wrong door.
I'm going to have to write that one down.

Isn't that the excuse for anal?


WRONG HOLE!
 
2013-06-15 02:38:05 PM

draa: Gyrfalcon: 

And my kids are anything but precious darlings. I love them but they are full grown adults now and so redneck that'd bite your farking ear off just for fun. I do worry about them surviving but I'm sure they'll make it in the end. And I don't appreciate your sarcasm towards them either. I don't know you but there's some things I draw the line at. Unless you'd rather I say something stupid about your grandmother, which I would never do, then don't say stupid shiat about my kids again. Bash me all you want but ...


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/You don't know how the interwebs work, do you?
//now go cry me a river
 
2013-06-15 08:56:07 PM

BMulligan: And furthermore...

If what we're all assuming here is true - that this guy is a 90-year old closet case - just think how sad that is. To have lived so long without ever feeling comfortable in his own skin. I think there's a lesson there for everyone, of any age.


Wear more clothes? . . . Wear less skin?
'cause I am down with either.
 
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