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2013-06-14 08:50:02 PM  
Does that mean globally or just in the US? I'm not sure I understood that article.
 
2013-06-14 09:28:00 PM  
The rise of militant Islam in Iran was just Europe and America reaping what they/we sowed with centuries of imperialism and decades of wars by proxy.
 
2013-06-14 09:30:08 PM  
Ah yes, when St. Reagan the Libslayer first emerged from the mists wielding Poorbane and promising a thousand years of upticking Dows.  And like the Curies discovering radium, we didn't know how toxic he would be to the nation until it was far too late.
 
2013-06-14 09:30:53 PM  
You're telling me. I was 4 and that older kid Johnny down the street kept throwing lawn darts at me. Also, I was deeply concerned as global politics leaned rightward. I wrote a treatise about how this would bite us in the ass by the 2000s, but my agent told me that no one takes 4 year-olds seriously. Well, fark you Mr. Agent man, I was right!
 
2013-06-14 09:39:36 PM  
I'm so happy that I am a conservative because it gives me the right to hate on black people and gays with my AR-15.

I also like to talk shiat about abortion and evolution for reasons I cannot fathom because there is a gaping hole in my brain that provides a blinding lack of awareness and common sense perspective towards anything but myself. .
 
2013-06-14 09:42:15 PM  

fisker: there is a gaping hole in my brain that provides a blinding lack of awareness and common sense perspective towards anything but myself. .

 
2013-06-14 09:49:22 PM  
As Caryl readily acknowledges, "These events are very different, they're distinct, and I don't want to make it sound like I'm throwing them all in one basket."

...but I did anyway.
 
2013-06-14 09:51:16 PM  
I wasn't even alive yet, so yeah I guess you could say that was a bad day for me.
 
2013-06-14 09:52:35 PM  
Congrats on getting your book advertisement greenlit, Christian Carylmitter.
 
2013-06-14 09:59:14 PM  
I remember then, I was about 8 years old. I used to throw lawn darts at this kid who lived down the street. Good times.
 
2013-06-14 10:05:30 PM  
So a roughly analagous year would be 2007? I'll buy that.
 
2013-06-14 10:05:43 PM  
Hell, St Margaret of Thatcher was sexy before Brazilians were popular. Argentinians were on their way out and heavy duty razors were in their infancy.
 
2013-06-14 10:07:57 PM  
www.subdude-site.com
1984 Fortune.   Greed is Good mantra.
Yeah.  Liberals lost this country for good since then... thank Reagan and the Neocons.
Super good deficit war time goodness ahead!
 
2013-06-14 10:08:10 PM  
In 1979:

Liberals: "Let's talk better gas mileage."
Conservatives: "Kill the bastards."

Seems that some things haven't changed.
 
2013-06-14 10:15:06 PM  
Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.
 
2013-06-14 10:15:43 PM  

shanrick: I remember then, I was about 8 years old. I used to throw lawn darts at this kid who lived down the street. Good times.


TONDA USED TO.. *ahem* sorry  I used to love that game.  First kid to take a high-floater on the noggin, lost.  Luckily the deathrainers had nicely rounded tips at the tapered point of the steel rods... someone could have gotten hurt if industry hadn't self-regulated and included that safety feature.
 
2013-06-14 10:24:33 PM  

mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.


Ahem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo
 
2013-06-14 10:30:37 PM  
I was born in 1979 so I'm getting a kick, etc.
 
2013-06-14 10:35:57 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: I was born in 1979 so I'm getting a kick, etc.


So was I, out there in the ether between Gen X and Gen Y.  My first election was 1998, and I was a registered Republican.  I've been slowly atoning for that ever since.
 
2013-06-14 10:36:29 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The rise of militant Islam in Iran was just Europe and America reaping what they/we sowed with centuries of imperialism and decades of wars by proxy.


With a little support from the Reagan administration!
 
2013-06-14 10:46:17 PM  

ghare: UNC_Samurai: The rise of militant Islam in Iran was just Europe and America reaping what they/we sowed with centuries of imperialism and decades of wars by proxy.

With a little support from the Reagan administration!


It was going on long before Reagan.  The U.S. started having imperial ambitions not long after the Louisiana Purchase, although in the early days it meant kicking Native Americans (and occasionally Mexicans) off their land and creating new states.

Aside from fighting against pirates in the Mediterranean and North Africa, however, the U.S. didn't project significant power outside of the Americas until the Cold War, when the U.S. and its NATO allies decided that they needed to stop Communism from spreading to the third world by any means necessary.
 
2013-06-14 10:46:53 PM  
 
2013-06-14 10:47:10 PM  
The year the American Dream was smothered with a pillow at the Old Folks Home
 
2013-06-14 10:51:11 PM  
"We're in sort of a holding pattern," Caryl says. "The theocracy in Iran has pretty thoroughly discredited itself at this point, and lost its hold on the minds of many young Iranians now. But I don't think that necessarily portends political change any time soon." Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, he believes that "the West missed a very important moment of opportunity there in 2002 and 2003 to help the Afghans build a stable order."

Oh, distractions, distractions. We needed those experts to design a new Iraqi flag, FFS
 
2013-06-14 10:52:40 PM  

MFAWG: mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.

Ahem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo


I'm probably going to say something that will get me banninated from fark. I have never cared for The Clash and especially not that LP. To me their music sounds oddly dated, like they are stuck in a sort of Cold War time loop. The Ramones music is timeless and fun. The Clash are VERY overrated in my opinion.
 
2013-06-14 11:00:04 PM  
AS a liberal who was in college in 1979, I don't need anyone to remind me what a lousy time that was. The 1980 election was utterly demoralizing - not just Reagan's coronation, but the loss of a lot of good people in the Senate. It was awful.

Worse, 1979 was the year I fell in love with the woman who would later become my ex-wife.
 
2013-06-14 11:20:22 PM  
Not too long after Vietnam wound down and the Corps were offering some interesting contracts. PLC was a bunch of fun and a life changer.
 
2013-06-14 11:20:26 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The rise of militant Islam in Iran was just Europe and America reaping what they/we sowed with centuries of imperialism and decades of wars by proxy.


Actually, a lot of it comes from short skirts and jazz music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#Visit_to_America
 
2013-06-14 11:41:07 PM  
Not a great year for this guy either:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-06-15 12:10:34 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I was born in 1979 so I'm getting a kick, etc.

So was I, out there in the ether between Gen X and Gen Y.  My first election was 1998, and I was a registered Republican.  I've been slowly atoning for that ever since.


I'm a few years older than you, and my first election was for Clinton. Now, in retrospect, I'm glad I voted how I did. Thing is, I didn't know why I was doing it at the time; just that Clinton resonated with me. An emotional response is no way to vote, but the same happened for Obama in '08. Chances are that at 18, you didn't know WTF you were talking about, either.

Then I went through a 'both sidez are teh bad" phase in my 20s, but have gotten shockingly more liberal as I approach 40. I don't see that changing anytime soon, so anyone who wants to bust out the tired "young conservative/no heart/old and not conservative no brain" adage is welcome to fellate me.

Since this is Fark, it's already hanging out. Go on...don't be shy.
 
2013-06-15 12:11:10 AM  
well I had a great time that year

/was 7
 
2013-06-15 12:25:00 AM  
So, like any other year, then?
 
2013-06-15 12:32:58 AM  

mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.


I saw my first R-rated movie (at age 10).

www.moviesontheroof.com
 
2013-06-15 12:54:52 AM  

dickfreckle: UNC_Samurai: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I was born in 1979 so I'm getting a kick, etc.

So was I, out there in the ether between Gen X and Gen Y.  My first election was 1998, and I was a registered Republican.  I've been slowly atoning for that ever since.

I'm a few years older than you, and my first election was for Clinton. Now, in retrospect, I'm glad I voted how I did. Thing is, I didn't know why I was doing it at the time; just that Clinton resonated with me. An emotional response is no way to vote, but the same happened for Obama in '08. Chances are that at 18, you didn't know WTF you were talking about, either.

Then I went through a 'both sidez are teh bad" phase in my 20s, but have gotten shockingly more liberal as I approach 40. I don't see that changing anytime soon, so anyone who wants to bust out the tired "young conservative/no heart/old and not conservative no brain" adage is welcome to fellate me.

Since this is Fark, it's already hanging out. Go on...don't be shy.


But...it's all...freckly.
 
2013-06-15 01:05:01 AM  

mikemoto: MFAWG: mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.

Ahem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo

I'm probably going to say something that will get me banninated from fark. I have never cared for The Clash and especially not that LP. To me their music sounds oddly dated, like they are stuck in a sort of Cold War time loop. The Ramones music is timeless and fun. The Clash are VERY overrated in my opinion.


The Clash was a Cold War band, dearie. Like a lot of those bands, they lost a great deal of their relevance when the Berlin Wall came down. They're not overrated, just very time-specific. You had to be there.

I was 15 in 1979. That was when I first developed my aversion to pointless displays of symbolic patriotism, all those goddamn yellow ribbons every f*cking where.
 
2013-06-15 01:28:40 AM  
pfft. the clash are still the only band that matters
 
2013-06-15 01:35:15 AM  
1979: year of the Atari 800

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Atari 800: 8K of pure solid state drive (ROM); 1.8 MHz CPU.  How could it EVER become obselete?

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2013-06-15 01:37:18 AM  
Agreed it was a crappy year.

1979 was the year that the American people bought into the propaganda surrounding Ronald Reagan and voted down Carter's solar energy proposals, among other things.

Imagine if we had done something to get off fossil fuel in farking 1979.

But no, both parties=the same
CORPORATE MASTERS HURR DURR
 
2013-06-15 01:42:13 AM  

anfrind: In 1979:

Liberals: "Let's talk better gas mileage."
Conservatives: "Kill the bastards."

Seems that some things haven't changed.




Stewie Griffin: Ah, yes. The bottom 10% of our high-school class is off to fight another battle.
Brian Griffin: You stole that from The Onion.
Stewie Griffin: What?
Brian Griffin: You stole that-- I-I read that in The Onion, about the War in Iraq.
Stewie Griffin: Well if that's true then I'd say they've got some sharp cookies over at the, uh-- wh-wh-wh-what is it again? The Onion?
Brian Griffin: So if I go up to your room right now, I'm not gonna find a copy of The Onion, right?
Stewie Griffin: No.
[Brian pushes his chair back pretending to get up to leave and Stewie makes a dash for his room (thinking Brian is going for The Onion), but trips over his dinner and falls to the floor]
Stewie Griffin: [From the floor, off-screen] Ow! Dammit!
Brian Griffin: That's what I thought.
 
2013-06-15 02:28:22 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I was 15 in 1979. That was when I first developed my aversion to pointless displays of symbolic patriotism, all those goddamn yellow ribbons every f*cking where.


I blame Tony Orlando.

/we should teach more Republicans to ski
 
2013-06-15 02:37:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: mikemoto: MFAWG: mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.

Ahem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo

I'm probably going to say something that will get me banninated from fark. I have never cared for The Clash and especially not that LP. To me their music sounds oddly dated, like they are stuck in a sort of Cold War time loop. The Ramones music is timeless and fun. The Clash are VERY overrated in my opinion.

The Clash was a Cold War band, dearie. Like a lot of those bands, they lost a great deal of their relevance when the Berlin Wall came down. They're not overrated, just very time-specific. You had to be there.

I was 15 in 1979. That was when I first developed my aversion to pointless displays of symbolic patriotism, all those goddamn yellow ribbons every f*cking where.


Funny. I can totally see why you'd call them a Cold War band, but I disagree. I think there was a lot more to them. London Calling, in particular, had so many thematic touchstones - "The Right Profile," "Death or Glory," the sublime "Train in Vain" - and so much depth. Even Sandinista!, their most naive record (and that's saying something) gave us "Hitsville UK," as sweet and guileless a track as you could want. The Clash's biggest problem, in my opinion, is that I hear "Rock the Casbah" way too much on the radio.
 
2013-06-15 03:27:09 AM  

fusillade762: mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.

I saw my first R-rated movie (at age 10).

[www.moviesontheroof.com image 341x531]


Same here. I also learned about "a.m. coast-to-coast" that night, because Alien scared the living shiat out of me and I couldn't sleep.

/my mom chewed out my dad a bit for taking me... lol
//... no, she admonished him, you pottythinkers. |:-|
 
2013-06-15 04:01:34 AM  
conservatives, you can rewrite history all you want, it still won't change the fact that you are the piece of shiat. You are the enemy of humanity and all that is good in the world. You are the problem and having mankind working towards your eradication is the only solution for creating a better world.
 
2013-06-15 04:32:33 AM  

BMulligan: Gyrfalcon: mikemoto: MFAWG: mikemoto: Here are some good things from that year (I was 12 at the time and remember it well).

1. Supertramp's Breakfast in America LP
2. Joe Jackson's Look Sharp LP
3. It was the last year a somewhat cinderella team (Seattle Supersonics) won the NBA title.
4. Apocalypse Now finally got released.

Ahem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo

I'm probably going to say something that will get me banninated from fark. I have never cared for The Clash and especially not that LP. To me their music sounds oddly dated, like they are stuck in a sort of Cold War time loop. The Ramones music is timeless and fun. The Clash are VERY overrated in my opinion.

The Clash was a Cold War band, dearie. Like a lot of those bands, they lost a great deal of their relevance when the Berlin Wall came down. They're not overrated, just very time-specific. You had to be there.

I was 15 in 1979. That was when I first developed my aversion to pointless displays of symbolic patriotism, all those goddamn yellow ribbons every f*cking where.

Funny. I can totally see why you'd call them a Cold War band, but I disagree. I think there was a lot more to them. London Calling, in particular, had so many thematic touchstones - "The Right Profile," "Death or Glory," the sublime "Train in Vain" - and so much depth. Even Sandinista!, their most naive record (and that's saying something) gave us "Hitsville UK," as sweet and guileless a track as you could want. The Clash's biggest problem, in my opinion, is that I hear "Rock the Casbah" way too much on the radio.


I'm thinking more of their first album. "The Clash," probably the single best punk debut album ever made, is so UK political, it could ONLY have been made in late 70's Britain. Those songs could never have been written and sung except in the oi/pub rock era, which could never have been except in the awful decade when the IRA was trading shots with the Ulster cops, and actual terrorists really existed in Europe. Man, what a time the 70's were....people have no idea.

London Calling is the greatest album ever. Combat Rock possibly sucks.
 
2013-06-15 05:20:58 AM  
1979 was the year by which point Jimmy Carter had farked things up so royally that Ted Kennedy started up a Democratic primary challenge for the presidential nomination, and had a 2:1 lead over Carter in the polls until even Democrats realized Teddy was still drinking at the levels that made him famous for Chappaquiddick. No wonder Reagan was elected.
 
2013-06-15 07:36:49 AM  

UNC_Samurai: The rise of militant Islam in Iran was just Europe and America reaping what they/we sowed with centuries of imperialism and decades of wars by proxy.


uh...
 
2013-06-15 08:47:35 AM  
I think this explains just exactly why most people chose to wallow in discos and drugs in 1979: they saw on the horizon what a right wing dogsh*t future that Reagan and the Moral Majority were going to usher in, so they tried to numb the horror as quickly as they could.
 
2013-06-15 08:51:23 AM  

JerkyMeat: conservatives, you can rewrite history all you want, it still won't change the fact that you are the piece of shiat. You are the enemy of humanity and all that is good in the world. You are the problem and having mankind working towards your eradication is the only solution for creating a better world.


This!
 
2013-06-15 09:54:58 AM  
A few yearslater ted kennedy would be selling us out to the kgb.
 
2013-06-15 09:59:39 AM  
1996 and the cross ownership part of the Telecommunications Act

Now that was a bad year for liberals, although giant media oligopolies may have been the metastasizing of existing trends
 
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