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(Forbes)   Senate staffers told to pretend the PRISM docs, FISA court order, NSA order, presidential brochure and "dozens" of other classified documents aren't freely available to anyone who can correctly spell Googel   (forbes.com) divider line 124
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2013-06-14 09:31:11 PM
Typical Government idiocracy.
 
2013-06-14 10:18:01 PM
You misspelled "googol".
 
2013-06-14 10:24:45 PM
Makes sense to me. You can't act differently when true or false info is put in front of you otherwise there's a very easy way to play 20 questions to whatever you want to know
 
2013-06-14 10:25:00 PM
Snow crash
 
2013-06-14 10:26:16 PM
LMGTFY
 
2013-06-14 10:27:40 PM
And everyone in the DoD.
 
2013-06-14 10:28:09 PM

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A toll is a toll and a roll is a roll.
 
2013-06-14 10:30:13 PM
That's why Bing is the best search engine.
 
2013-06-14 10:31:39 PM

Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.


for porn, yes.. not so much everything else
 
2013-06-14 10:33:34 PM
Finally, the googles do something.
 
2013-06-14 10:34:07 PM
We are a stupid version of the Soviet Union.
 
2013-06-14 10:34:43 PM
Remember this, the only reason the government is not recording and analyzing every word of every web activity you engage in is: it's not technically possible yet to record and analyze all that data.

Rest assured they will be doing it, secretly, the second it does become possible to capture so much data at once.

But let's all talk about how crazy that Snowden guy seems.  Right?  Crazy, amirite?
 
2013-06-14 10:35:38 PM
If you have clearance to handle classified information, you have to obey the rules about how it's classified. It doesn't matter if it's fallen into the public domain by accident or design- if it's classified, you have to obey the rules or risk losing your security clearance.

It's sort of like speeding. "Well, I was just keeping pace with traffic," might seem pretty reasonable, but it's not going to get you out of a traffic ticket.
 
2013-06-14 10:36:18 PM
I have Gogol. He's  funny. I especially liked Dead Souls. In my book he out does Tolstoi.
 
2013-06-14 10:37:08 PM

Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.


duckduckgo is the search engine to use.  They are not corporate whores.  Yet.

/ remember when google was that cool, innovative tech company run by engineers instead of businessmen?  Good times
 
2013-06-14 10:37:22 PM
We received the same message this week at work. Basically it amounts to if you access the information on an unclassified computer, you are accessing classified material and the system is compromised.
 
2013-06-14 10:37:44 PM

Digital Communist: But let's all talk about how crazy that Snowden guy seems.  Right?  Crazy, amirite?


Who's saying that?
 
2013-06-14 10:37:48 PM

sendtodave: LMGTFY


What does that stand for?


/that's the joke
 
2013-06-14 10:38:00 PM

id10ts: And everyone in the DoD.


Yep - if you have a clearance you're obligated to handle classified material appropriately regardless of the source. If your company does any classified work and these docs show up on their network they're in deep bisqwik as well.
 
2013-06-14 10:39:50 PM

The Bestest: Digital Communist: But let's all talk about how crazy that Snowden guy seems.  Right?  Crazy, amirite?

Who's saying that?


In the past two weeks I've seen ten times more stories about Snowden than about the programs he uncovered.  Which IMO is the wrong focus.  Is that not your experience?

/ I was not referring to people in this thread
 
2013-06-14 10:42:14 PM

Digital Communist: Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.

duckduckgo is the search engine to use.  They are not corporate whores.  Yet.

/ remember when google was that cool, innovative tech company run by engineers instead of businessmen?  Good times


I remember.  But I think the plan was always to rule the world.
 
2013-06-14 10:42:28 PM

BalugaJoe: Snow crash


Interesting parallel, and super predictive.  It's weird to think how impossible parts of that novel were in the early 90s, and yet he got closer than most to the reality of today.  How much further do we have to fall before people start living in irradiated storage units?

I think I'll order a pizza and contemplate it...
 
2013-06-14 10:44:13 PM
Beer googles?
 
2013-06-14 10:45:24 PM
Given the demonstrated intelligence level of the average Senate staffer, this seems an entirely reasonable precaution.

NSA: Just pretend you can't spell "Google."
Staffers: We allredy kan't!
 
2013-06-14 10:47:04 PM

sendtodave: Digital Communist: Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.

duckduckgo is the search engine to use.  They are not corporate whores.  Yet.

/ remember when google was that cool, innovative tech company run by engineers instead of businessmen?  Good times

I remember.  But I think the plan was always to rule the world.


Maybe you're right, but it's suspicious that the plan only came into effect when they went public.  When the businessmen took over.
 
2013-06-14 10:47:52 PM
I think that is the same thing they are telling the military overseas.  Something like that, they aren't allowed to view stories about the IRS scandal, iirc.
 
2013-06-14 10:48:28 PM
It was the NSA scandal.  Sorry, getting my scandals mixed up.
 
2013-06-14 10:53:06 PM

IronTom: It was the NSA scandal.  Sorry, getting my scandals mixed up.


Is this the MPLA
Or is this the UDA
Or is this the IRA

...NSA...IRS...DEA...EIEIO...WTF...
 
2013-06-14 10:58:32 PM
I wish they would admit these are public domain so I could read them.
 
2013-06-14 11:01:53 PM
There's a rule against putting classified info onto an insecure computer. The author of this Forbes piece implies, and subby and everybody who has commented here agree, that it should be OK to ignore this rule in some cases. The Senate Security Office says that the rule always holds, and I'm inclined to agree.

The point of classifying information is that that label tells you what the rules are for handling the information; you don't have to continually re-analyze it. You just check the label and follow the appropriate set of rules.

It's one thing to say, "This info is out there; let's declassify it so it's easier to handle and discuss." That's a far cry from "This is still top secret, but let's act like it isn't." The latter is what TFA says. It's wrong.
 
2013-06-14 11:01:56 PM

Lamberts Ho Man: id10ts: And everyone in the DoD.

Yep - if you have a clearance you're obligated to handle classified material appropriately regardless of the source. If your company does any classified work and these docs show up on their network they're in deep bisqwik as well.


Yup. This is pretty much it.
 
2013-06-14 11:01:59 PM

uber humper: I have Gogol. He's  funny. I especially liked Dead Souls. In my book he out does Tolstoi.


Hardly.  Gogol's books are way shorter.
 
2013-06-14 11:02:41 PM

The Bestest: Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.

for porn, yes.. not so much everything else


No, no, for porn it's still Gogol.


.. Gogol Bordello.

/rimshot
 
2013-06-14 11:07:16 PM
Googel?
Srsly Subby?
 
2013-06-14 11:10:13 PM
Ummm... it's spelled googol, which is 10^100
 
2013-06-14 11:12:10 PM
Oh, THAT classified material!

/brb, someone's at the door
 
2013-06-14 11:13:06 PM
This same crap after Wikileaks and they threatened all of us with prosecution if we looked at that site, even at home.  And I have a clearance.

Stupid government.
 
2013-06-14 11:14:46 PM

Bucky Katt: uber humper: I have Gogol. He's  funny. I especially liked Dead Souls. In my book he out does Tolstoi.

Hardly.  Gogol's books are way shorter.


Oh yea. not just shorter but cut short. And way funnier.
 
2013-06-14 11:14:57 PM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: It's wrong.


On the other hand, if the whole world knows, it's not a secret now is it?
 
2013-06-14 11:17:48 PM

The Bestest: Digital Communist: But let's all talk about how crazy that Snowden guy seems.  Right?  Crazy, amirite?

Who's saying that?


lol, have you not been in some of the other fark threads... there is a good contingent of people who say they don't believe Snowden, or any of the former NSA people who backed his claims. In the other thread, I was called paranoid for citing direct quotes from the PRISM powerpoint.
 
2013-06-14 11:18:12 PM

StopLurkListen: The Bestest: Shazam999: That's why Bing is the best search engine.

for porn, yes.. not so much everything else

No, no, for porn it's still Gogol.


.. Gogol Bordello.

/rimshot


Came here for this.

/you immigrant punk
 
2013-06-14 11:19:57 PM

Lamberts Ho Man: id10ts: And everyone in the DoD.

Yep - if you have a clearance you're obligated to handle classified material appropriately regardless of the source. If your company does any classified work and these docs show up on their network they're in deep bisqwik as well.


It's as though somebody in charge thinks rules are important for the sake of rules.
 
2013-06-14 11:21:33 PM

t3knomanser: If you have clearance to handle classified information, you have to obey the rules about how it's classified. It doesn't matter if it's fallen into the public domain by accident or design- if it's classified, you have to obey the rules or risk losing your security clearance.

It's sort of like speeding. "Well, I was just keeping pace with traffic," might seem pretty reasonable, but it's not going to get you out of a traffic ticket.


Thanks for outing yourself, government spook.
 
2013-06-14 11:25:23 PM

edmo: This same crap after Wikileaks and they threatened all of us with prosecution if we looked at that site, even at home.  And I have a clearance.

Stupid government.


Step 1) buy newspaper for $1 in cash
Step 2) commit treason by reading it
Step 3) swagger liek a bawss
 
2013-06-14 11:27:21 PM

edmo: Stupid government.


B-b-but government is the solution to all our problems! Haven't you heard? Surely you're not one of those awful Tea Party militia Constitutionalist Oath Keeper NRA types? Because if you are, I'm calling Janet Napolitano right away, goddamnit.
 
2013-06-14 11:27:58 PM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: There's a rule against putting classified info onto an insecure computer. The author of this Forbes piece implies, and subby and everybody who has commented here agree, that it should be OK to ignore this rule in some cases. The Senate Security Office says that the rule always holds, and I'm inclined to agree.

The point of classifying information is that that label tells you what the rules are for handling the information; you don't have to continually re-analyze it. You just check the label and follow the appropriate set of rules.

It's one thing to say, "This info is out there; let's declassify it so it's easier to handle and discuss." That's a far cry from "This is still top secret, but let's act like it isn't." The latter is what TFA says. It's wrong.


It's a towering achievement that the Senate Security Office has been able to so perfectly structure a set of rules to govern how people process information in their brains.  This has enabled the Greatest Civilization Ever to simply put a sticker on a piece of paper and it becomes 'unnecessary for you to know this information' and absolving individuals from their participation in any government activity, regardless of consequences.

If only those Catholics could have run such a perfectly orchestrated system (they tried!); we never would have had the Protestant reformation and the Enlightenment.  A pity; the whole of Europe and America (Maybe the world!) could have been united in the One True Religion and peace and security would reign.
 
2013-06-14 11:28:09 PM

chitlenz: BalugaJoe: Snow crash

Interesting parallel, and super predictive.  It's weird to think how impossible parts of that novel were in the early 90s, and yet he got closer than most to the reality of today.  How much further do we have to fall before people start living in irradiated storage units?

I think I'll order a pizza and contemplate it...


Reality is getting even worse. How long til exxonmobile has nukes? NSA and FBI? Quaint.
 
2013-06-14 11:28:36 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: t3knomanser: If you have clearance to handle classified information, you have to obey the rules about how it's classified. It doesn't matter if it's fallen into the public domain by accident or design- if it's classified, you have to obey the rules or risk losing your security clearance.

It's sort of like speeding. "Well, I was just keeping pace with traffic," might seem pretty reasonable, but it's not going to get you out of a traffic ticket.

Thanks for outing yourself, government spook.


It's really only outing if he wanted to stay hidden. A great many with clearances are affected when this stuff happens. I saw folks get reprimanded back during the wikileaks for mishandling classified materials because they were caught going to that site. That has long term affects on careers. Not something the average person has to worry about but those in the cleared fields, yeah definitely got to pay attention and not break the rules.
 
2013-06-14 11:34:45 PM

edmo: Captain Horatio Mindblower: It's wrong.

On the other hand, if the whole world knows, it's not a secret now is it?


YES! IF YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW YOU WILL BE FIRED!

\dammit. it's still secret to me
 
2013-06-14 11:40:54 PM
Start wearing Purple!
 
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