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2013-06-14 06:56:08 PM
Breitbart indicated that Karkoc will likely outlive the judicial process.

My first thought as well. Dude will probably be dead before anything comes of this.
 
2013-06-14 07:00:22 PM
www.averageslob.com

lutefisk lebensraum?
 
2013-06-14 07:00:41 PM
He went from being a Nazi, to moving to Minnesota.

He wanted to pay for his past sins.
 
2013-06-14 07:01:10 PM
Any skeletons, and all your other sinsAny skeletons, in the closetAny skeletons, any misfortunesAny skeletons, hiding in the closetAny skeletons, Any skeletonsIn the closet!
 
2013-06-14 07:01:32 PM
Truly, the cogs of Justice turn slowly.
 
2013-06-14 07:01:50 PM
Copy/paste fail
 
2013-06-14 07:04:58 PM
"Without realizing it, we go from an age where we say: "My life will be that" to an age where we say: "That's life.""

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-14 07:05:46 PM
another day another story about nazis
 
2013-06-14 07:09:38 PM
Who writes about their exploits for the Nazis & is then surprised to find out some people have a problem with this?  The guy may or may not be guilty of war crimes, he's certainly guilty of chronic stupidity though - & his relatives if they knew about the book.
 
2013-06-14 07:09:54 PM
This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.
 
2013-06-14 07:10:38 PM
May need to state: DRTFA
 
2013-06-14 07:13:26 PM
Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but I just had to bail on that page with their crappy auto video BS that I couldn't pause.

...in before people biatching about auto-play. Oh wait...
 
2013-06-14 07:14:13 PM

kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


Someone should have told this. He would have never been caught.
 
2013-06-14 07:15:33 PM
someone from Minneapolis once gave me a business card with "nazi extraordinaire" on it, so I am getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-06-14 07:15:39 PM

kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


Save it for a Confederate flag thread, self-pitying attention whore.
 
2013-06-14 07:18:33 PM
Kendelrio:   This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


WRONG.  All Klan live below the Mason-Dixon Line.

Things like the Blues Brothers, the late 70's Skokie Illinois case and Demjanjuk show that Nazi's can definetly be in the North.
 
2013-06-14 07:19:54 PM

kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


Wisconsin. You can go look at the thread right now. Also Idaho.
 
2013-06-14 07:20:39 PM

SirEattonHogg: Kendelrio:   This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


WRONG.  All Klan live below the Mason-Dixon Line.

Things like the Blues Brothers, the late 70's Skokie Illinois case and Demjanjuk show that Nazi's can definetly be in the North.


Wait, wasn't the Blues Brothers bit a knock on the Skokie thing?
 
2013-06-14 07:21:35 PM
I guess they gotta hurr, they're all dying off. What are they going to do with themselves once they're all gone?
 
2013-06-14 07:22:07 PM
Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?
 
2013-06-14 07:23:36 PM

Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?


Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.
 
2013-06-14 07:26:23 PM
Bet he did nazi that coming.
 
2013-06-14 07:27:08 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com


Obersturmbannführer Dussander approves.
 
2013-06-14 07:28:02 PM
Minnesota? But their governor's a huge bald Nazi!
 
2013-06-14 07:28:26 PM

SirEattonHogg: Kendelrio:   This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


WRONG.  All Klan live below the Mason-Dixon Line.

Things like the Blues Brothers, the late 70's Skokie Illinois case and Demjanjuk show that Nazi's can definetly be in the North.



Heritage not hate ya Yankee bastard. The south will rise again, my granddaddy probably...

Waitaminnit!!! I don't give a shiat about that shiat. I gots all mah teef, I only sleep with my sister when I'm **really** desperate and ain't nobody on my family named billy-Jo-Bob.

/sorry, you got the wrong dude.
 
2013-06-14 07:28:38 PM
Don't mention the war!
 
2013-06-14 07:30:57 PM
Meat0918:
Wait, wasn't the Blues Brothers bit a knock on the Skokie thing?

I think you are right.  Its around the same time period and the scene in the Blues Brothers is a parade of Nazis and the cop says something to the Blues Brothers about the Nazis winning a court case - which was what happened in Skokie.
 
2013-06-14 07:31:52 PM

Mad Scientist: Don't mention the war!


But they started it!

No, you did!

No, they invaded Poland!
 
2013-06-14 07:32:08 PM

ACunningPlan: Who writes about their exploits for the Nazis & is then surprised to find out some people have a problem with this?  The guy may or may not be guilty of war crimes, he's certainly guilty of chronic stupidity though - & his relatives if they knew about the book.


I doubt he would be surprised at public disapproval, and I'm guessing you oversimplify a complex issue by chalking up his memoir simply to stupidity. He waited until he was 80ish, and I'm guessing he left out either some identifying information, or the worst of his Nazi involvement. While his motives aren't covered in article, it may be because of guilt, and trying to atone for some of what he did.
 
2013-06-14 07:32:27 PM
Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?
 
2013-06-14 07:34:31 PM

MFAWG: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.


"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Matt 12:31
 
2013-06-14 07:35:12 PM
www.biography.com

But... she's leaving. Don't worry.
 
2013-06-14 07:38:28 PM

special20: Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but I just had to bail on that page with their crappy auto video BS that I couldn't pause.

...in before people biatching about auto-play. Oh wait...


IDK why you couldn't pause it. Worked for me.
 
2013-06-14 07:41:57 PM

George Babbitt: MFAWG: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.

"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Matt 12:31


Yup, still not as good a person as Jesus. Sue me.
 
2013-06-14 07:45:09 PM
I'd like to know what he's done for a living all these years.

I'm guessing machinist.

Of course, he was Ukrainian and not German, so I may have to switch my answer to sausage maker.  He was in Northeast Minneapolis and those Ukes up there do know their sausage.
 
2013-06-14 07:45:41 PM

George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?


internment camp guilt ha ha jk casio
 
2013-06-14 07:46:11 PM
So he was a 'commander' during the war years when he went from 20 to 25 years old?
Seems young - were the smarter/older guys hiding from service or already dead at that point?

/dnrt entire article
 
2013-06-14 07:47:21 PM

Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?


No and fark no.
 
2013-06-14 07:48:35 PM

nanim: So he was a 'commander' during the war years when he went from 20 to 25 years old?
Seems young - were the smarter/older guys hiding from service or already dead at that point?

/dnrt entire article


Did you ever read 'All Quiet on the Western Front'? They talk about putting ~11-12 year olds into service by the end of the war for lack of anybody else.
 
2013-06-14 07:48:54 PM

George Babbitt: MFAWG: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.

"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Matt 12:31


BUT THEY KILLED CHRIST!
 
2013-06-14 07:49:31 PM

MFAWG: George Babbitt: MFAWG: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.

"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Matt 12:31

Yup, still not as good a person as Jesus. Sue me.


Nobody is, kind of the point, and not a viable excuse.
 
2013-06-14 07:49:50 PM
Looks like someone is getting Das Boot from the USA
 
2013-06-14 07:50:38 PM

T Baggins: ACunningPlan: Who writes about their exploits for the Nazis & is then surprised to find out some people have a problem with this?  The guy may or may not be guilty of war crimes, he's certainly guilty of chronic stupidity though - & his relatives if they knew about the book.

I doubt he would be surprised at public disapproval, and I'm guessing you oversimplify a complex issue by chalking up his memoir simply to stupidity. He waited until he was 80ish, and I'm guessing he left out either some identifying information, or the worst of his Nazi involvement. While his motives aren't covered in article, it may be because of guilt, and trying to atone for some of what he did.


Guess we'll find out on the remorse front; goes quietly or fights deportation.

If there was sufficient information for a chemist/amateur historian to identify and then start looking for him, I'd say he didn't leave out the right details.  Since the book was only published in the Ukraine, perhaps he was hoping to make a little money from the sales; there's a fair number of Neo-Nazis roaming those parts of the world and perhaps they were his target readership.  Not everyone feels guilt, nor regrets past actions.
 
2013-06-14 07:51:28 PM
kendelrio:
Heritage not hate ya Yankee bastard. The south will rise again, my granddaddy probably...

Waitaminnit!!! I don't give a shiat about that shiat. I gots all mah teef, I only sleep with my sister when I'm **really** desperate and ain't nobody on my family named billy-Jo-Bob.

/sorry, you got the wrong dude.



Well, I guess that leads to the next question: Is your sister hot?
 
2013-06-14 08:04:55 PM

kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


South America?
 
2013-06-14 08:11:06 PM
t1.gstatic.com
Did he fly here?
 
2013-06-14 08:11:43 PM
Wtf
 
2013-06-14 08:12:41 PM

George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?


The two nukes we dropped on them and the fire bombing of Tokyo basically let their war criminals off the hook.
 
2013-06-14 08:20:47 PM

ongbok: George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?

The two nukes we dropped on them and the fire bombing of Tokyo basically let their war criminals off the hook.


We fire-bombed many cities in Germany too, and then we cut it in half and gave one part to the Soviets where they lived under KGB and the Stasi for 50 years, while putting them under our own boot for 50 years as well.
 
2013-06-14 08:21:29 PM
Me too!

/ Lived in Minneapolis, partied all over Minnesota, left as soon as I could -- Michelle Bachman humans, a lot of them, all white, all redneck
 
2013-06-14 08:27:53 PM

kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


You're confusing rednecks with Nazis, which, to be fair, is an easy mistake to make.
 
2013-06-14 08:37:32 PM
But they're such friendly Nazis.
 
2013-06-14 08:45:11 PM
Fritz Schtickelmeyer.


/Too obscure?
 
2013-06-14 08:52:15 PM

George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?


Probably very few of them fled to the US.
 
2013-06-14 08:56:55 PM
I have to respect the dude for valuing historical accuracy over his life.  He obviously knew this would bring a storm his way.  He waited til he had lived a full life before he wrote and published it.
 
2013-06-14 09:11:52 PM
OMG! Its a true life version of that episode of Law and Order and Family Guy!

Let's hope its not also Apt Pupil.
 
2013-06-14 09:16:23 PM

George Babbitt: MFAWG: George Babbitt: MFAWG: George Babbitt: MFAWG: George Babbitt: MFAWG: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

Some things shouldn't be forgiven, much less forgotten.

"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Matt 12:31

Yup, still not as good a person as Jesus. Sue me.

Nobody is, kind of the point, and not a viable excuse.

You know, you're right. We can save trillions of dollars if we dismantle the entire criminal justice system, and just say 'Hey, Jesus forgives, so everybody be cool'.

Dumbass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting#Amish_community_r es ponse

This dude didn't have the decency to kill himself, and in fact wrote a memoir detailing his exploits.

See the difference?

You were supposed to take something else away from that.


Non-analogous events were non-analogous.
 
2013-06-14 09:16:59 PM
He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.
 
2013-06-14 09:23:09 PM

DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.


I gotta disagree. I don't think you get a pass on being party to mass murder.
 
2013-06-14 09:24:09 PM

DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.


That's troubling for them though, don't you see, this guy is probably the youngest of anybody involved(aside from the 12 year olds they were throwing on the front line at the end)who they could go after. What will they have if there aren't any more?
 
2013-06-14 09:27:09 PM

George Babbitt: DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.

That's troubling for them though, don't you see, this guy is probably the youngest of anybody involved(aside from the 12 year olds they were throwing on the front line at the end)who they could go after. What will they have if there aren't any more?


Difference between this guy and combat soldiers. Big, BIG difference.
 
2013-06-14 09:34:00 PM
I thought we had already located our Nazis at gas stations in New Jersey.

On a different topic, I wonder what the actual Nazis would have made of the little orange NJ cavemen.
 
2013-06-14 09:34:00 PM

MFAWG: George Babbitt: DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.

That's troubling for them though, don't you see, this guy is probably the youngest of anybody involved(aside from the 12 year olds they were throwing on the front line at the end)who they could go after. What will they have if there aren't any more?

Difference between this guy and combat soldiers. Big, BIG difference.


I agree, but when they run out of these 'guy's, I wonder if the twelve year olds will have to look over their shoulder too...
 
2013-06-14 09:39:51 PM

KumquatMay: Minnesota? But their governor's a huge bald Nazi!


Actually he's a white haired trustifarian.
 
2013-06-14 09:44:29 PM

nmemkha: OMG! Its a true life version of that episode of Law and Order and Family Guy!

Let's hope its not also Apt Pupil.


You forgot Shock Treatment.
 
2013-06-14 09:47:12 PM

Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?


No. I can accept that nationalists from those countries overrun by the Germans would seek to promote their newly liberated countries (I'm thinking of Baltic states freed momentarily from Stalin.) but that is NO excuse for machine-gunning naked women and children into mass graves. I don't care if you're so demented that you can't remember your crimes; a debt needs to be paid in some manner.
 
2013-06-14 09:50:19 PM
 
2013-06-14 09:52:54 PM

CptnSpldng: Kaenneth: Isn't it time we just forgave and forgot?

No. I can accept that nationalists from those countries overrun by the Germans would seek to promote their newly liberated countries (I'm thinking of Baltic states freed momentarily from Stalin.) but that is NO excuse for machine-gunning naked women and children into mass graves. I don't care if you're so demented that you can't remember your crimes; a debt needs to be paid in some manner.


"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
 
2013-06-14 09:56:08 PM

special20: Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but I just had to bail on that page with their crappy auto video BS that I couldn't pause.

...in before people biatching about auto-play. Oh wait...


Ditto which is why I am here to find out anything of importance
 
2013-06-14 10:08:34 PM
Who's the U-boat commander?
 
2013-06-14 10:39:48 PM
A lot of them come here for the camps.

cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-14 11:16:40 PM

BarkingUnicorn: special20: Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but I just had to bail on that page with their crappy auto video BS that I couldn't pause.

...in before people biatching about auto-play. Oh wait...

IDK why you couldn't pause it. Worked for me.


I think it's just the Keurig commercial at the front end. NO option to even skip it - I just had ads I can't opt out of.
 
2013-06-14 11:17:54 PM

Mcaffolder: special20: Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but I just had to bail on that page with their crappy auto video BS that I couldn't pause.

...in before people biatching about auto-play. Oh wait...

Ditto which is why I am here to find out anything of importance


Is there anything more important than how people feel about unstoppable advertisement? I'm stumped.
 
2013-06-14 11:39:01 PM

George Babbitt: DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.

That's troubling for them though, don't you see, this guy is probably the youngest of anybody involved(aside from the 12 year olds they were throwing on the front line at the end)who they could go after. What will they have if there aren't any more?


Considering your public anti-semite views, maybe we're not the ones who should be troubled.
 
2013-06-14 11:47:00 PM
Who wins from bringing up nazis again on the Internet? Only god.

Do you see what I did there?
 
2013-06-14 11:51:09 PM
shiat happens during wars, leave the guy alone.
 
2013-06-14 11:57:16 PM

Popcorn Johnny: shiat happens during wars, leave the guy alone.


Now he is defending a Nazi. Bet you also don't believe the Holocaust happened.
 
2013-06-15 12:06:16 AM
ciberido: Considering your public anti-semite views, maybe we're not the ones who should be troubled.

You have no farking concept of my views if you think them to be anti-Semitic.
 
2013-06-15 12:06:48 AM
Because nobody expects the Minnesota Nazi ..
 
2013-06-15 12:17:45 AM

ciberido: kendelrio: This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.

You're confusing rednecks with Nazis, which, to be fair, is an easy mistake to make.


Yeah, Nazis live anywhere, they impregnate their sisters to populate the master race, and have teeth.  So basically, better hygiene.  However not the neo-nazis, they're like rednecks only listen to different music.

Speef: I thought we had already located our Nazis at gas stations in New Jersey.

On a different topic, I wonder what the actual Nazis would have made of the little orange NJ cavemen.


That is a good question.  Do nazis stay up to date on current trends?  I'm cool with whatever they decide for them.  Of course we could be messing up the evolution of what could be the NJ Umpa Lumpas.  We'll wait to see if their hair turns green.
 
2013-06-15 12:44:32 AM

The Pope of Manwich Village: A lot of them come here for the camps.

[cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com image 420x316]


I have to bathe in the lake? I don't know if I could handle that without showers.
 
2013-06-15 01:31:31 AM
Hey, at least it's an ethos.
 
2013-06-15 02:45:30 AM

ongbok: Now he is defending a Nazi. Bet you also don't believe the Holocaust happened.


I'm German, I know more about Germany during WWII and the Holocaust than you ever will. One of the things I know is that a large portion of the Nazi party were not willing volunteers and were forced into compliance with the alternative being death.
 
2013-06-15 03:12:58 AM

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Now he is defending a Nazi. Bet you also don't believe the Holocaust happened.

I'm German, I know more about Germany during WWII and the Holocaust than you ever will. One of the things I know is that a large portion of the Nazi party were not willing volunteers and were forced into compliance with the alternative being death.


not SS though. Most SS soldiers and agents especially ones who work for Himmler were more than willing participants.
 
2013-06-15 03:45:05 AM

George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?


Japanese soldiers barely surrendered, so chances are they were killed in combat or offed themselved when the Allies had the upper hand. A good portion of military leaders were hanged, and Unit 731 was given reduced sentences by the US and Soviets in exchange for the results of their himan experiments.
 
2013-06-15 03:46:12 AM
Human, even.
 
2013-06-15 06:58:17 AM
SirEattonHogg:Well, I guess that leads to the next question: Is your sister hot?

Hold on now.... ain't nobody havin' sex with mah sister but ME!

harryallen.info

/hot
//like my sister
 
2013-06-15 07:26:31 AM

MFAWG: DarkVader: He's 94.  It's a waste of time and money to even bother trying to prosecute him.

Find something else to go after.

I gotta disagree. I don't think you get a pass on being party to mass murder.


Unless you are a president.
 
2013-06-15 07:30:58 AM

meat0918: SirEattonHogg: Kendelrio:   This story is unpossible. According to Fark, all nazis live below the Mason-Dixon Line, Fark their sisters, have no teef and are named billy-Jo-bob.


WRONG.  All Klan live below the Mason-Dixon Line.

Things like the Blues Brothers, the late 70's Skokie Illinois case and Demjanjuk show that Nazi's can definetly be in the North.

Wait, wasn't the Blues Brothers bit a knock on the Skokie thing?


Also the Skokie guy got kicked out of the Illinois Nazis for being a pedobear.
 
2013-06-15 11:40:53 AM

George Babbitt: Why aren't we still hunting down Japanese who committed similar acts in WWII?


We conquered their nation and subjected them to foreign rule for the first time in their 2,000-some year history.  That humiliation was a far greater punishment than anything else we could come up with.
 
2013-06-15 12:25:25 PM

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Now he is defending a Nazi. Bet you also don't believe the Holocaust happened.

I'm German, I know more about Germany during WWII and the Holocaust than you ever will. One of the things I know is that a large portion of the Nazi party were not willing volunteers and were forced into compliance with the alternative being death.


Despite keeping his alleged role in the war a secret in the United States, Karkoc published a memoir in Ukraine in 1995, outlining his role in organizing and leading the Ukrainian Self Defense Legion in collaboration with the Nazis.

Karkoc is accused of leading the SS-led Ukrainian Self Defense Legion, an organization whose members massacred civilians and resistance fighters throughout Ukraine and Poland and helped suppress the Warsaw Uprising.

Most of the crimes affiliated with Karkoc's group occurred in Poland, including the 1944 directive to "liquidate all the residents" of the village of Chlaniow, according to documents from a Soviet-era investigation,


That is not "shiat happens in war". This is a man who willingly oversaw the killing of civilians. fark him and fark you, you Nazi apologist.
 
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